Game 157: Four


(Ronald Martinez/Getty)

Four. That’s my proverbial magic number there. If the Yankees win four of their remaining six games, I think they’ll be in really good shape as far as winning the division. If they only win three, then there’s a very real chance they’ll be playing a one-game tie-breaker or worse, a one-game wildcard play-in at this time next week. Hiroki Kuroda has been the team’s best pitcher from start to finish this year, so one more strong performance to kick-off this six-game stretch would be appreciated. Here’s the starting nine…

SS Derek Jeter
RF Ichiro Suzuki
3B Alex Rodriguez
2B Robinson Cano
1B Nick Swisher
CF Curtis Granderson
LF Raul Ibanez
Russell Martin
DH Eric Chavez

RHP Hiroki Kuroda

Tonight’s game is scheduled to start at 7:07pm ET and can be seen on YES. Enjoy.

Categories : Game Threads


  1. Pasta Stumbling Sojo says:

    I agree with this from the post:

    “If they only win three, then there’s a very real chance they’ll be playing a one-game tie-breaker or worse, a one-game wildcard play-in at this time next week.”

    but not this from today’s chat:

    “If NY goes 3-3 in the last 6 do they still win the division?
    by JM 10:41 AM

    I say no. 4-2 seems like the bare minimum.
    by Mike Axisa 10:42 AM”

    If the Yankees go 3-3 there’s still a good chance they’ll win the division without a tiebreaker. Assuming the O’s have a 60% chance of winning each game (this is generous if you check the Vegas odds for each game), that gives them a ~54% chance of winning at least 4 of 6, which gives t Yankees a 46% chance of winning the division without a tiebreaker by going 3-3, and a 73% overall chance of winning the division (assuming the tiebreaker game is around 50-50).

    Not that I’m banking on the O’s losing, and I’d be very nervous with every Yankee loss, but I think they still have a very reasonable shot even if they don’t go at least 4-2.

    • MannyGeee says:

      With the Red Sox, I would guarantee, assume, or bet nothing ever. Those pricks could just as easily run the table as lose out the string.

  2. VT Yankee Fan says:

    It’s pretty amazing that the Yanks could finish with the best record in the league or be playing in a wildcard game.

    • MannyGeee says:

      Yeah, here’s to hoping that the MLB joins the late 20th century at some point in our lifetimes and goes to a bracket playoff system so AL Central teams don’t limp in while better teams have to fight and claw for spots…

  3. MannyGeee says:

    off topic, but is goddam funny stuff. This is what I imagine being bored and filthy rich being like, can’t wait to hit that Powerball….

    • jjyank says:

      Haha one of my friends from college showed me that when I was up in Boston a few weeks ago visiting him. Funny stuff, we watched a bunch of em. Livin’ the dream right there.

  4. jjyank says:

    …of course A-Rod gets a hit after I bench him in a desperate ploy in fantasy. You’re welcome, everyone.

  5. Chilango says:

    Good AB by Cano and ARod, Not trying to do too much.

  6. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Garbage Time started early today.

  7. Cy Pettitte says:

    Swish! all with two outs, nice.

  8. Mike N says:

    YESSSS! RISPHIT!!!!!!!!!!

  9. Chilango says:


  10. MannyGeee says:

    Hey guys, that dude that hit a 2 run double???

    Yeah, dint resign him. Go with Chris Dickerson instead. *trollface*

    • jjyank says:

      I don’t really get it to be honest. There seem to be a lot of people who want to let Swisher, Cano, and Grandy all walk in the name of “getting younger”.

      Swisher will probably be the cheapest of the three, and the RF options for next year are pretty abysmal. I am in the re-sign Swish camp. Unless of course, he actually does want Werth money, but he’ll never get that.

      • MannyGeee says:

        It’s the “garbage time” / “bad in October” memes that get you that.

      • Tom says:

        I don’t get it either… Girardi’s already got platoon-itis, the Yankees don’t need one in RF. (as SS/3rd/DH is sort of 2 rolling platoons)

        Sign Swish (up to 4 years/14mil per or 3 years/15mmil per) , let Grandy walk after next year. Draw some sort of line with Cano.

        • jjyank says:

          I pretty much agree with all of that. Re-sign Swish, let Grandy walk, and re-sign Cano, if you can.

          I freely admit I have trouble being rational with Cano. I pegged him has my designated “favorite player” after Bernie left, and I really, really, really want him to stay around. But I do realize that the Yankees can go out and give him a Pujols contract, or anything close to it. Hopefully they just take the Kinsler extension and pump a few more mil into it and Robbie takes it. I would like the Yankees to spend part of the offseason exploring an extension with Robbie, though I doubt he takes one given that Boras is his agent. You never know, though. Weaver signed an extension under Boras, it can happen.

    • Chilango says:

      It’s great to see him getting hot, but he’s still 6 for his lat 16 and his Sept and Oct numbers for the last 3 years are .236/.327 and .188/.381

  11. Mike N says:

    HOLY SHIT!!!!! That was the craziest play I’ve ever seen!

  12. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Wow! Ridiculous play.

  13. handtius says:

    uh…can’t we say granderson was unlucky there? wow.

  14. MannyGeee says:

    Also, my 2 year old is walking around saying “fackyou glove”…. My bad.

  15. DT says:

    Poor Grandy, when he finally makes contact it end up like whatever the hell that was.

  16. jjyank says:

    Come on Hirok. Settle down, we need a win today.

  17. jay says:

    Lawrie giveth, Lawrie taketh away

  18. MannyGeee says:

    So how is Encarnacion not pissing in a cup every time he puts in his uniform? I don’t get it

  19. Rooting for U.S. Steel says:

    Anyone want to talk about not re-signing Swisher?

    And yeah, I know, it’s only one play. I just like the guy and want him on the team… albeit not at the usual Scott Boras asking price…

  20. Tom says:

    Aaron Cook. Thanks buddy (6 run 1st for the O’s)

  21. Cy Pettitte says:

    Aaron Cook….christ.

  22. Eddard reboot v.1.0 says:

    So much for help from the Sox. We’ve got to win this one and the next 2 to hold 1st place through the weekend.

  23. Dela G says:

    Man the orioles will not fucking die

  24. MannyGeee says:

    Everything has been hit on the nose today. Which begs the question… Why the fck is Russell looking for the bunt?

  25. Tom says:

    WTF? It’s the 2nd inning…. and Girardi has entered bunt mode up 2?

  26. Darren says:

    I’ve never seen a pitcher do that before. Crazy!

  27. Eddard reboot v.1.0 says:

    Prime opportunity to go up 4-5 runs early and give Hiroki all the support he needs. 2 on, 2-0 count. Chavy should get a fat one to hit here.

  28. R-Tills, you’re currently in the “like us on FB graphic!!”

  29. Darren says:

    Also, I’d love to see Melky Mesa get a start against the Sox….but I doubt we’re gonna clinch by then. Hope we can play well and win enough games to get in. O’s are killing Sox again. Damn.

  30. MannyGeee says:

    Wow… Jenkins can’t find the plate right now. Hang back, wait for that cookie and sweep the leg

  31. Dela G says:

    cmon jeet!!

  32. robert heenan says:

    do i blame girardi or martin for wasting two strikes on a bunt attempt in the second inning? leiter said maybe he was bunting for a hit which is not terrible i guess, but otherwise boo – and the runner just went with two strikes didn’t they learn something from that twins game -

    blue jays already want to bring in a reliever because this guy gave up two runs – meanwhile boston happily let cook give up 6 to the o’s – thanks boston

  33. Also, jj, calling me a “mediocre” bong salesman the other day, I just turned today from a net loss to a net gain w/ one sale. Suck it.

  34. Dela G says:

    captain double play!

  35. Jeet, w/ the strikezone being kind of small early, and the chance you might roll a DP, I’d take that pitch.

  36. CountryClub says:

    Jeter’s in a bit of a slump.

  37. Dela G says:

    Kay is a moron, but we do know this already

  38. Karl Krawfid says:

    Bases loaded no outs.

    1 run.


  39. Eddard reboot v.1.0 says:

    Ichiro wanted to make an out there per Michael Kay.

  40. Cy Pettitte says:

    bases loaded no outs, get one run.

    stop letting shitty teams stay in games, that’s how they end up losing games like they did against the Twins.

  41. MannyGeee says:

    Arguement about the sac rule is great… They sound like a bunch of old ladies.

    Also, 1run scored with the bases loaded and no one out is BARELY acceptable. Get it together guys. Hang a 12 spot and get Derek Lowe and Melky Mesa some time out there.

  42. ArchStanton says:

    Top two hitters responsible for 5 of 6 outs so far, the other one being Granderson’s liner.

  43. Tom says:

    Crap – Yankees had a chance to completely blow it open and really get into the bullpen.

    At least the Martin bunt failed… that could have been a completely scoreless inning if it had “worked”

  44. MannyGeee says:

    Hooray, another lead off double! Apparantly the Japanese believe the shut down inning after gaining run support is bad luck…

  45. Chilango says:

    This is all too familiar. They let Jenkins off the hook when it looks like Kuroda’s going to need all the help he can get. Let’s pick it up guys..

  46. Karl Krawfid says:

    A Kuroda is still struggling.

  47. MannyGeee says:

    Hiroki is getting worked out there… Alot of foul balls and deep counts.

  48. Dela G says:

    great job, russell!

  49. jjyank says:

    Wow, real heads up play, Rus!

  50. Karl Krawfid says:

    OMg blue Jays are trash.

    And I love it.

  51. Chilango says:

    Two bonehead baserunning plays. Yay

  52. Eddard reboot v.1.0 says:

    Hiroki’s giving up too many hits. Jays ran into outs helping him out. More offense is needed.

  53. Cy Pettitte says:

    they really need to blow this open ASAP, Kuroda doesn’t look good tonight.

  54. CountryClub says:

    Boy, I agree with Kay on that one.

  55. Suzyn’s killing me right now…she’s going on and on about how basically the 90s Yankees where so good because they got “repremanded” for baserunning mistakes by having to go sit next to Joe. Fucking seriously Suzyn…these are grown men or guys in their early 20s…the fuck is sitting next to the manager like they’ve been put in time out going to do?

  56. toad says:

    Kuroda looks terrible.

  57. Karl Krawfid says:

    Pray for Hirok.

  58. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Get Phelps up.

  59. Cy Pettitte says:

    they get Andy back, CC straightens himself out and just when you think you can feel better about the rotation Kuroda turns into a pumpkin. lovely.

  60. Mike N says:

    BEAR DOWN, HIROKI!!!!!!!!!!

  61. CountryClub says:

    Kuroda not making me feel any better about his upcoming playoff appearance.

  62. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Here comes Rothschild, that means runs are guaranteed to score here.

  63. Eddard reboot v.1.0 says:

    Where is the old Hiroki Kuroda? The one who pitches shut outs and goes 7-8 innings. Phelps might need to pitch here to bail out Kuroda.

  64. MannyGeee says:

    Colby Rasmus is caveman ugly… Like, cat killer ugly.

  65. Kramer says:

    Kuroda is pitching like total shit right now.

  66. CountryClub says:

    I’ve seen some fans say that Kuroda is pitching himself into the 4th spot in playoffs. I’ve laughed it off, but maybe it’s not so crazy.

  67. Chilango says:

    Kuroda is missing big time. Get Phelps up now

  68. Karl Krawfid says:

    Damn huge pitch.

  69. Kramer says:

    At least he avoided a huge disaster in this inning.

  70. Dela G says:

    wow that was one hell of a 2 seamer

  71. Eddard reboot v.1.0 says:

    Nice K to get out of it. Still need 2-3 more runs for some breathing room. Hiroki is giving up too many hits for comfort.

  72. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Looks like they’re going to either need a lot more runs or a lot more shitty Jay’s baserunning to win this game.

  73. MannyGeee says:

    Beauty of a pitch by Hirok! To get out of a major jam.

    Now let’s hang a crooked letter and go all Aaron Cook on these bitches

  74. handtius says:

    yey….lets move on. more runs and some quick innings for hurok.

  75. Kramer says:

    To that end, glad to be watching finally, albeit not with my main browser up…

    The Red Sox laying down to the Orioles might’ve been the most predictable thing in baseball yet this season. Unreal. Red Sox lack any kind of professionalism whatsoever. Just another reason to hate them.

    • yo fahgetabowdit says:

      They’ve been laying down all season. You would hope some of the younger guys are giving it their all to win a spot on the roster for next year though.

    • Hummingbird S. says:

      kinda like what the Yankees did last season?

      • Kramer says:

        Yankees did not lay down to the Rays. Hell, they beat them three times in the space of two days with eight days left in the season (when NYY clinched the division) which could’ve crippled the Rays, if not for the Orioles laying waste to the Red Sox at the same time.

        Furthermore, the Yankees didn’t play to lose Game 162. They were never going to use Mo or DRob, but Cory Wade and Luis Ayala weren’t exactly schmucks last year – that was a remarkable Rays comeback.

        Don’t even try to compare the two.

  76. Mike N says:

    Awesome! I bet Hiroki gets his shit together now.

  77. Chilango says:

    Great recovery.

  78. yo fahgetabowdit says:

    I love Russel Martin’s style. If he can hit over .200 and get 20hrs a year @ ~5 mil a year I would take it. Obviously something more like .240 and 20hrs would be awesome.

  79. MannyGeee says:

    Did jenkins get better or did these guys start swinging at shit pitches now?

  80. Mike N says:

    I’m reposting this comment down at the end of the thread, because this is such an important topic for Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle:

    Are you allowed to refer to them as “bongs” in the store? When I was a college student in Philly back in the 80s, there was an awesome head shop called Wonderland. If you said the word “bong” in the store, however, they’d throw you out. You had to say “water pipe”. And you had to buy some shitty tobacco crap along with your “water pipe”.

  81. handtius says:

    i just read that kuroda has a career high in innings pitched this year. that surprised me.

  82. MannyGeee says:

    Goddammit. Atta way to let Jenkins off the hook boys

  83. handtius says:

    dammit yankees! do something better then be winning! arrrrr.

  84. Hummingbird S. says:

    this Jays’ pitcher takes forever and a half in between pitches.. it’s boring as hell.

  85. yo fahgetabowdit says:

    I would love to have lawrie on our team…

  86. Rays already lead?

    Colour me shocked.

    • Tom says:

      And yet people still want them to keep winning, which also helps Detroit win the central and potentially setup their rotation for the postseason.

      All this so they “play hard” against Baltimore, because if they were out of it their starting pitching would stop trying?

      I want no part of the Rays in the postseason.

      • CUYanks says:

        My priority is for the Yankees to avoid a 1-game playoff. I’m assuming they can hold off the Rays with a 4 game lead and 6 to go, so yes I pretty much want to make sure that the Orioles and Rays have to go all out to beat each other up.

    • CountryClub says:

      Their fans are probably saying the same thing about the yanks and orioles.

  87. Mike N says:

    Wait is there a game going on here? I am lost in a fog of my bong reminiscences.

  88. I hoped it would be George Bell.

  89. Seems like Rajai Davis has a fucking ton of hits against the Yankees this year.

  90. MannyGeee says:

    Rajai Davis… Dude is an enigma. Some days he sucks out loud, other days he looks great.

  91. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Yikes. Kuroda really working the middle of the plate.

  92. Davis is 14-51 this year against the Yankees, so the numbers don’t really back me up.

    I guess the idea of a schmuck of that calibre getting hits has just stuck to memory.

    • Chilango says:

      Yeah he’s .245/.288 against them. It’s like when I look at Swisher’s solid situational stats I don’t believe it because he’s a straky hitter and you remember the slump fuck ups more than the step ups when he’s going good.

    • Chilango says:

      Yeah he’s .245/.288 against them. It’s like when I look at Swisher’s solid situational stats I don’t believe it because he’s a streaky hitter and you remember the fuck ups when he’s slumping more than the step ups when he’s going good.

  93. Chilango says:

    Kuroda is giving what they call a gutsy performance. Good job.

  94. CountryClub says:

    Unless he gets a quick inning, he’s on pace to throw 6 innings. Think Girardi goes to Joba or phelps for the 7th?

    • CUYanks says:

      If it’s looking like Robertson/Soriano for the 8th and 9th, probably Joba. If it’s a bigger lead where Phelps might go a couple, then we might see him.

  95. jay says:

    “the deficit views of al leiter are his own…” Did I miss something? Not paying too much attention to Kay, just heard that quickly

  96. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Short leash please.

  97. Better that Rasmus did that now than in the 2nd inning, I guess.

  98. Hummingbird S. says:

    time to worry?

  99. yo fahgetabowdit says:

    Missed his spot.

  100. Eddard reboot v.1.0 says:

    This is why you need to score more runs when you have bases loaded no outs and the starter on the ropes. Hiroki won’t get through 7 and hand it to Robertson and the other relievers are a crapshoot.

  101. Cy Pettitte says:

    3 runs isn’t winning this game.

  102. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Phelps please.

  103. Kuroda has not been sharp all game, and has fallen behind a ton of batters.

    If he doesn’t get it together, it’s going to be yet another blown lead for him tonight.

  104. Hummingbird S. says:

    short leash, please. get Phelps up

  105. Tom says:

    Rapada and Phelps up in the 5th inning… but noone complain about the Yankees failure to blow this open in the 2nd inning because the Yankees are winning!

  106. MannyGeee says:

    Homer Bailey no hitter through 6IP

  107. Hummingbird S. says:

    nice escape Hiroki!

  108. MannyGeee says:

    Hell, Hiroki has been bending but not breaking tonight. I can dig it

  109. Cy Pettitte says:

    5IP 1ER is just a miracle. Yankee magic.

  110. Chilango says:

    Kuroda gets out of it. Great. Joe will put Phelps in in the 6th right?

    • ArchStanton says:

      Kuroda at 89 pitches, I bet Joe tries to get another inning out of him, but I think I’d pull him or at best go batter to batter. The luck can’t last forever.

  111. Joe F says:

    Hey all. Still up 3-0?

  112. Tom says:

    Kuroda really needed that. Hopefully the Yankees can get one more good inning out of him

    Maybe the offense can get their first hit since a leadoff single in the 2nd and create some separation.

  113. yo fahgetabowdit says:

    It would be great if we get a decent lead in the division so we can give kuroda a rest before the playoffs.

  114. Please don’t be a serious hand injury.


  115. jjyank says:

    Fuck. Please be okay, Robbie.

  116. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Don’t be hurt.
    Don’t be hurt.
    Don’t be hurt.
    Don’t be hurt.

  117. yo fahgetabowdit says:

    We killed their bird, so they killed one of ours. These guys are good.

  118. Tom says:

    Nice Swish!

  119. Eddard reboot v.1.0 says:

    Ok, stop the bunt on 2-0 now.

  120. Chilango says:

    Kuroda in Aug/Sept IP 46/24.0 ERA 2.35/5.64 BAA .215/.284
    If he’s gassed we’re in trouble.

  121. Mike Axisa says:

    Just gave away an at-bat with the stupid bunting.

    • jjyank says:

      Yep. Hey, I have an idea! Let’s let a guy prone to strike outs, but can hit homers, bunt and let him get behind in the count!

      Seriously. If you wanna bunt Chris Stewart, fine. But Granderson? Stupid. He’s got just as good a chance of blasting one out than he does bunting successfully.

  122. Tom says:

    Just dumb. Girardi and his dumbass small ball.

  123. Cy Pettitte says:

    what a terrible at bat

  124. A Kurtis K, especially after 2-0?

    Well, that’s shocking.

  125. yo fahgetabowdit says:

    chances are he strikes out anyway, but why not just let him swing there? -1 girardi.

  126. Hummingbird S. says:

    granderson K’d? really?

  127. Kurtis :( also, even w/ a lead, no reason Ibanez should be hitting for himself here.

  128. ArchStanton says:

    Did they have him sacrificing up there?

  129. Chilango says:

    Granderson protection swing w/2strikes lol

  130. Joe F says:

    The concept of bunting with a guy who has hit 40 home runs really makes me wonder if Girardi is stupid.

  131. MLBN pounding this Homer Bailey no-hit shit to death.

    And now they’re going to air the 8th inning as well.


  132. MannyGeee says:

    Come on Voldemort. Make some shit happen

  133. jjyank says:

    Ibanez strikes out against a lefty. Guess it’s time for a shot.

  134. Mike Axisa says:

    Fucking Girardi. Either he makes one move too many or no move at all.

    • Tom says:

      It is amazing how bad he is managing with a lead…

      The only surprising thing was he didn’t have Granderson bunting 2-2.

      A guy who lives for the platoon on defense can’t be bothered to PH in the 6th inning.

  135. ArchStanton says:

    Another candidate for Girardi’s worst managed inning this season. This is a joke.

  136. DT says:

    Girardi is a fucking moron…no reason to not pinch hit for Raul.

  137. Matt says:

    Having Granderson try to bunt, and then leaving in Ibanez to bat for himself with multiple runners on base when he is basically a singles hitter against lefties and you have Nunez, Jones, and McGehee on the bench?

    You just have to shake your head at Girardi these days. When the pressure is on, he just completely loses it.

  138. Mad busy late tonight…how come I see people wishing Robby not hurt?! WHAT HAPPENED?!

  139. Mike N says:

    Please score some more runs now.

  140. Tom says:

    Come on Russell bail Girardi out of this ridiculous inning.

  141. Karl Krawfid says:

    Pathetic baseball by the Yankees.

  142. This game is playing out the same way Tuesday’s game did.

    Crappy SP, got a few runs, but have not been able to build on that. And the Jays have managed to hang around thanks to that.

    As the old ideology goes – you allow the schmucks to hang around, the more they begin to believe they can win.

  143. Dela G says:


  144. Karl Krawfid says:

    Take that bat.

  145. Hummingbird S. says:


  146. Cy Pettitte says:

    RUSSMART! thank you for finally blowing this open.

  147. RUSSELL!

    Saved Joe’s ass big-time there.

  148. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Thanks Russ!!!

    That was quite huge.

  149. jjyank says:

    ZOMG RUS!!!!! Huge, huge homer there.

  150. COLTRANE!!!!!!!!!!


  151. Chilango says:

    RUSSSS!! Saves Girardi’s sorry ass

  152. Eddard reboot v.1.0 says:

    “We’re not the Bronx bunters.” – Girardi

    Could have fooled me. And Martin just showed what this offense is all about!!!!!

  153. MannyGeee says:

    Hey Raul? Nah I won’t do it….

  154. Hall and Nokes says:

    I remember when we all hated Russ. It was like two weeks ago.

  155. Tom Q says:

    Can’t overestimate what a big at bat that was.

    Who knew Russell would become such a clutch player?

  156. Cuso says:


    What a big freakin’ hit by Russell Martin!

    Great job, dude.

  157. Betty Lizard says:

    My day. It is made.

  158. Joe F says:

    Russ is surging.

  159. yo fahgetabowdit says:

    Huge 3 run home run with two outs. Plus he made a huge nobody out runners on first/third gun down on 3rd to save hioki’s butt.

  160. jjyank says:

    Ah WHAT THR FUCK? Can someone please get a hit off Bailey so I can go back to the Yankee game? Bullshit.

  161. And MLBN ascends to Pittsburgh.

  162. MannyGeee says:

    Ok MLBN had moved to the homer bailey show. No hits thru 7.1 now

  163. Dela G says:



    Mike N, Idk if you’re still around, sorry it got really busy late here. Absolutely we a head shop in Jersey is going to have higher prices than NYC. It’s a really simple reasoning too. There are SO MANY head shops in the Village that if a guy won’t give you a deal you just go around the corner to NY Gifts and they’ll hook you up. Here, unless you want to drive 45 minutes out to the nearest Wonderland, or up to Nyack to Liquid Glass or pay 12.50 to cross the bridge and go hunting for a deal in the city were they spot a NJ’er a mile away, we’re the only game in town.

    • Mike N says:

      After I posted my comment, that occurred to me. My first thought was, “NJ rents -> NJ prices”. But if you are the only head shop in Bergen County, you can charge whatever you want.

  165. Mike N says:


  166. Chilango says:

    Tack on Ichiro-san

  167. Jason Frasor laying a stink bomb, eh?

  168. jjyank says:

    God damn it. What did Ichiro do? I fucking hate Homer Bailey right now. And MLBN.

  169. Dela G says:

    Michael Kay waited MANY MANY years to use that “Down goes Frasor” line

  170. King George says:

    I don’t mean to overemphasize or to sensationalize this, but my goodness. Looking back at the end of the year, that could be one of the bigger at-bats we have seen in terms of pressure, standings, momentum, you name it. Huge.

  171. Time to get on the real bus…not as fun as the Russ Bus, G’night guys.

  172. Why couldn’t Hunter Bailey have done this last week, which would’ve kept Adrian Gonzalez from hitting two home runs?

    /still bitter from Sunday’d

  173. Eddard reboot v.1.0 says:

    Now they have a nice cushion. Let Hiroki go one more then get the garbage relievers some work. The big guys could use the rest.

  174. Dela G says:

    the great thing is that all of the runs so far were with 2 outs

  175. Well, six runs to work with now.

    Hope Kuroda and Co. can bring this one home safely.

  176. Chilango says:

    I hope Joe still has Kuroda on a short leash.

  177. Cy Pettitte says:

    6 run lead, now how many times will Joe have DRob warm up tonight? gotta be like 2 times minimum.

  178. yo fahgetabowdit says:

    Knowing joe he will probably get the Jays within 2 runs and have to burn one of soriano or drob.

  179. I busted my own narrative, but I’ll say it again anyway:

    Rajai Davis seems to get a fucking ton of hits against the Yankees.

  180. Really just not Kuroda’s finest hour whatsoever tonight.

    He better get his act together for the Yankees to have a good chance of advancing deep into October. He hasn’t been sharp for over a month now.

  181. jjyank says:

    God damn it. Do these assholes actually think that anyone watching the Yankees/Jays game in a tight division race actually gives a shit what Homer Bailey does??

    *boots up xbox yet again*

  182. Joe F says:

    Phelps time.

  183. Yeah, that’s a worthwhile out.

    No chance of turning two on that chopper, and Gose’s speed.

  184. Two pitches, two outs.

    Well done, Sir Phelps-A-Lot.

    • Tom says:

      Like jjyank I’ve been MLBNetwork’d….

      Thanks for the play by play (was curious about the ground ball forceout that you mentioned above)

      • jjyank says:

        Don’t know if you saw my post earlier, but I do have…so I booted up my xbox to watch the Yankee game when they switched. I hate that they made me do that, though.

      • Well, Jeter was shaded a bit the middle, and Gose hit a weak chopper to Jeter’s arm side.

        Hard DP in most cases, but especially with Gose’s speed on the basepaths. In a 7-1 game, the out overrides the surrendered run, obviously.

  185. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    I find David to be very Phelpful.

    lolololololololol im so fucking funny

  186. MannyGeee says:

    No hitter complete. Godamn does homer bailey take his time… Kid pitches at a beckett pace

    • Tom says:

      The no hitter also locks in .500 at best for the Pirates (they need to win out to avoid another under .500 season)

      Maybe they just need more Hells Angels type players?

    • yo fahgetabowdit says:

      One Beckett-

      two minutes. Roughly one walk around the mound, a blow into the hand, one zombie stare into the stands, and a slow rubbing of the baseball.

  187. Ok, MLBN, get back to the fricken’ Yankee game already.

  188. Cy Pettitte says:

    that was Sterling-esque.

    • Winter says:

      Yeah, I expect that sort of shit from Sterling. Kay I expect to at least get the call right, despite anything else he may say.

  189. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Michael Kay is blind.

  190. Hummingbird S. says:

    how did Granderson got thrown out on that play? stupid baserunning?

  191. Hummingbird S. says:

    how did Granderson got thrown out on that play? stupid baserunning?

  192. Tom says:

    By the way a leadoff bunt single was the only thing standing in the way of Boston also being no hit tonight.

    (Fallacy be damned!)

  193. Chilango says:

    Michael Kay says some very stupid shit.

  194. Hummingbird S. says:

    I wish every game could be as boring as this one. I love boring wins.

  195. Cy Pettitte says:

    Is Boone Logan seriously warming up right now? wtf.

  196. mt says:

    Kuroda looks gassed and not sharp at all and it would be great to rest him but he would be scheduled to pitch Wednesday against Red Sox if that game is still important.

    Given Cook/Doubront/Zach Stewart(!!!) Red Sox rotation this weekend against O’s, I would be shocked if O’s don’t sweep.

    I am not as sure Yanks will sweep Blue Jays especially since Yanks do not seem to be able to thrash Romero like other teams seem to do.

    I guess I am rooting for Oakland to lose to Seattle so Tampa stays interested in 2nd wild card (since Tampa plays O’s in last series).

  197. jay says:

    Why are Logan and Joba up???

  198. jjyank says:

    Real nice curve by Phelps there.

  199. mt says:

    Kuroda looks gassed and not sharp at all and it would be great to rest him but he would be scheduled to pitch Wednesday against Red Sox if that game is still important.

    Given Cook/Doubront/Zach Stewart(!!!) Red Sox rotation this weekend against O’s, I would be shocked if O’s don’t sweep.

    I am not as sure Yanks will sweep Blue Jays especially since Yanks do not seem to be able to thrash Romero like other teams seem to do.

    I guess I am rooting for Oakland to lose to Seattle so Tampa stays interested in 2nd wild card (since Tampa plays O’s in last series).

  200. yo fahgetabowdit says:

    Uh oh, Girardi has his pet booner up in the pen.

  201. JonS says:

    So…with an 8-2 lead, why is Chamberlain and Logan warming up in the pen?

  202. Gotta go with Phelps on Tuesday.

    I don’t even see how it’s a question.

  203. Tom says:

    So with Texas trailing by 3 in the 6th, the Yankees can pull within 1 of Texas for the best record.

    I don’t see Chicago coming back in the Central so I much rather have the #1 seed (even if it means 2 games in Oakland). If the Rays get in, maybe not.


    • jjyank says:

      I know you said “thoughts”, and I’m replying, but I don’t really have any. The Yanks are gonna play a good team. They’re gonna have to play a good team. They’re gonna have to beat a good team. No matter how it shakes out. I don’t like how the #1 seed has to wait to know where they have to fly to/play, but they also would be playing a presumably less-rested team with a lesser rotation line up (again, presumably). So we’ll see.

      • But, you want fucked up, here you go, in the event the Yankees procure that #1.

        The Wild Card play-in right now is Baltimore vs. Oakland. Right now, it’s slated for Camden Yards, but if the A’s finish with an identical record (or better, obviously), the venue shifts to the Coliseum.

        Now, imagine the A’s win that play-in game. Then the Yankees have to fly 3,000 goddamned miles to play a game THE VERY NEXT NIGHT. Meanwhile, the A’s would be resting comfortably in their own beds waiting for the jetlagged Yankees to arrive in Oakland.

        I know how the popular rhetoric is “wild card is marginalized” etc. etc. etc. Well, in 2012, it sure as hell isn’t. In that scenario, the winner gets such an enormous boost that it becomes a disadvantage to be #1.

        Only in Bud Selig’s MLB.

        • jjyank says:

          True. I certainly would not want that. I really do hate Bud Selig, for the record. Always have, always will.

          Truth be told, I may hate every commissioner until they let Pete Rose back. This isn’t related to Bud though, I hate him for so many other reasons.

          • I should point out that it’s also possible for the O’s to win a game in Oakland, and have to fly back to Baltimore to play the Yankees the next night – a Yankees team that would only have a short flight from NY to Baltimore. So that would certainly favour the Yankees.

            But it’s insanity all the same. It should not be coming to this, but Selig and Co. deciding to rush this format after the TV deals had already been brokered has resulted in this unfortunate system for 2012.

            • jjyank says:

              Dude, you’re preaching to the choir. As far as I’m concerned, it’s criminal (CRIMINAL!!) that such a thing was rushed into production ahead of instant replay. But replay doesn’t make money, and this ridiculous wildcard situation does.

              • I know. Most people here, sane or insane, realize this.

                I still feel like venting about it every now and then, because when you realize the batshit insanity of it, it just boggles the mind how a supposed top-notch professional league like MLB could actually justify doing it.

                • jjyank says:

                  Vent all you want. I’m sure we all want to at one point or another. There is no excuse for baseball to drag its feet on replay while rushing a new (and ill thought out) playoff structure in the meantime.

                  You get the pitchforks, I’ll get the torches. Let’s storm Selig’s office.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting says:

          “Then the Yankees have to fly 3,000 goddamned miles to play a game THE VERY NEXT NIGHT”

          There is a day in between, so it won’t be that bad. Wild Card game is Oct. 5. The #1 v. WC ALDS begins Oct. 7.

  204. Chilango says:

    6 run lead go after these guys. no screwing around Phelps

  205. Ryan Doumit hits a huge two run HR to put Minny up 2-0 on Detroit.

    If Chicago holds on to their slim lead, they’re back within a game in the Central.

    • CUYanks says:

      My goal is that CWS and Det have to play a 1-game playoff. Then Det can potentially burn Verlander? Who would be scheduled to pitch that game?

      • yo fahgetabowdit says:

        which game?

      • Need Pitching & Hitting says:

        Verlander is scheduled to pitch tomorrow, so he’d be on regular rest for that 1-game playoff (unless they used him on short rest for last day of regular season)

      • Tom says:

        Scherzer is scheduled to pitch the last game of the season (but that seems iffy)

        That would leave Verlander for the one game playoff (or game 1 of the LDS if no tie)

        But if Scherzer can’t go I wonder if they bring back Verlander on 3 day’s rest to pitch that last game of the season if it means something. (which I assume would leave Fister for thea tiebreaker of game 1)

        • Tom says:

          yikes that last part was if they bring Verlander back on short rest for game 162 it would leave Fister for a tiebreaker (or Game 1 of the LDS if there is no tie)

          • Tom says:

            And correct that, Fister is scheduled to pitch game 161. So if they burn Verlander in either game 162 or a tie breaker – maybe Porcello? Sanchez?

  206. Chilango says:

    Go Swish. Looked ugly but got it done. Nice play

  207. Way to make me look good, Phelps.

    Once again, never easy with this team.

  208. Tom says:

    Crap… 4 run game. That will likely get the good arms in.

  209. Mike N says:

    Fucking hell. We really have absolutely no decent long relief.

  210. Cy Pettitte says:

    So Joe warms up Logan but then doesn’t bring him for Lind. Either don’t warm him up and give him the night off he needs or bring him in if you do get him up. It’s unreal how bad his decisions have been the last 2 months.

    • The Real Greg says:

      If those are bad decisions, then every manager in baseball is an idiot. See it all the time.

      • Tom says:

        Who cares if every manager is an idiot? That doesn’t excuse Girardi.

        Girardi should not be warming up a guy who leads the AL in appearances and is clearly worn down, especially when he’s not going to use him for the guy he was warming hium up for. And who by the way would likely have been pinch hit for had he brought Logan in anyway.

        There was no reason for Logan to be up. At all.

        • The Real Greg says:

          It all comes down to what the effect does warming up have. It is not included on pitch counts. Nobody really talks about it, unless they warm up 3 times in one game.

          And also he hadn’t pitched since Tuesday so having him only warm up is fine with me. This still counts as a day off for him.

          • Hummingbird S. says:

            where did you get that number from? It only hurts a pitcher if he warms up 3 times in one game? Really?

          • Tom says:

            No it comes down to stupidity…. he was warming up for a guy (Lind) who would likely have been pinch hit for anyway if he had brought Logan on.

            It was dumb to have him up at all… his only chance of coming in was to pitch to a righty (unless Girardi really was too dumb to realize Farrell would pinch hit for Lind?)

            Other than the need to defend Girardi, what is the logic behind Logan warming? Please tell me who he’s pitching to that inning.

  211. The Real Greg says:

    Anybody still want Phelps to start?

  212. Hall and Nokes says:


  213. yo fahgetabowdit says:

    Toronto’s problem isn’t offense. They score runs ok. Sorta the same problem the Twins have.

  214. is the website being incredibly laggy for anybody else? Like seriously as I’m typing this it’s like three words behind.

  215. No reason that Cano shouldn’t be at second if hes’ busting it out of the box.

    • Chilango says:

      Right. Even thrown out going for two is legit in the circumstances. Cano just doesn’t hustle plain and simple. Never did never will.

  216. yo fahgetabowdit says:

    Probably the worst bullpen we’ve had in 5 years. Haven’t looked at the numbers yet, but it sure feels that way.

  217. I guess Swisher got that off the handle a little bit cause I thought that was hit a lot farther off the bat.

  218. VT Yankee Fan says:

    Is Sterling drunk?

  219. Chilango says:

    No cutters Robbie ok. Throw the curve

  220. DRob pitching in a five run game to start the 8th is the height of insanity.

    • jjyank says:

      Agreed. But my fantasy team needs the boost after Edwin Jackson shit the bed. So I can’t really bitch about it :P Unless Robertson also shits the bed.

    • The Real Greg says:

      I can see both sides of the issue.

      The other side is that he hasn’t pitched since Monday and has only pitched once since September 21st.

      • CUYanks says:

        I don’t think it’s terrible, but I might have tried to avoid it. Bottom line, these are must win games, and a B reliever could easily make a mess of it.

  221. Yet ANOTHER hit for Rajai Davis.

  222. jay says:

    who is that and what has he done with Rajai Davis?

  223. yo fahgetabowdit says:

    Looked like a strike there…

  224. Mike N says:

    I am far from a naysayer, but how well is this bullpen gonna fare in the postseason?

  225. And no damage done.

    First scoreless half-inning since the Yankees top of the 5th.

  226. I think it was a little over board bringing Robertson in.

    • The Real Greg says:

      Another thing I thought of is who else are you bringing in?

      Lowe pitched yesterday
      Logan you want to avoid getting him into a game (warming up is fine)
      Rapada (not a full inning guy)
      Aardsma pitched yesterday and didn’t show much.
      Joba I bet is pitching the ninth
      Wade is awful
      Soriano’s the closter.

  227. Ryan Doumit really wants the White Sox to stay in the Central race.


  228. Pat D says:

    So I impulsively bought a new second TV for our house last week. What happens today? Oh, great, my laptop won’t turn on! And I still haven’t gotten any kind of approval for Trade Act training, so I don’t know if I’m eligible for the health care tax credit, so I’m going to have to pay high premiums if I want health coverage, so……ah, fuck it, just shoot me.

  229. yo fahgetabowdit says:

    I remember when allstar break rolled around the only thing I could think of relistically upgrading for little cost was the bullpen. We don’t have the young phenoms to bring up, or move from starters into the bullpen this year.

  230. Mike N says:


  231. Cy Pettitte says:

    Chavez has such easy oppo field power, blows my mind how many of his hits like that get out.

  232. nsalem says:

    Would a divisional tiebreaker game be considered a regular season game (as it has been in the past). Can the loser of a tie breaker be eliminated from the playoffs if there are two non division winners with a better winning percentage after a tie breaker loss?

  233. jjyank says:

    Yay more breathing room! Can we please get Lowe or someone of that ilk now?

  234. Tom Q says:

    So, considering the evening began with the Orioles prohibitively ahead in their game, and Kuroda shaky from the get-go in this one, it’s nice (if surprising) to go to the bottom of the 9th as relaxed as this.

  235. Tom says:

    Soriano and Garcia throwing

    Maybe he can get Sabathia warming in case there’s a tough lefty coming up?

  236. Cy Pettitte says:

    this is seriously hilarious.

  237. I swear Joe just gets loaded for some games and just goes crazy.

    • Tom says:

      He seems to have taken an extra dose of his stupid pill today.

      “Raffy needed to get some work in… one batter keeps him sharp”

  238. Hummingbird S. says:

    Girardi is seriously insane. Or straight trolling.

  239. Matt says:

    Even Michael Kay is speechless. Girardi is nuts.

  240. Why in the hell is MFIKY in an 11-4 game?



  241. Cy Pettitte says:

    will he still #untuck?

  242. jjyank says:

    Mkay. I usually defend Girardi’s decisions (with exception of course) But Soriano here? Really?

  243. Matt says:

    LOL. Some guy screaming “You are an idiot!”

  244. yo fahgetabowdit says:

    Watch Soriano pull his hammy or something insane like that.

  245. Stratman9652 says:

    Seriously hoped it would be a one pitch out for the comedic effect.

  246. Tom says:

    Wow I miss Gardner… is Jones or Ibanez within 20 feet of the wall on that foul ball?

  247. yo fahgetabowdit says:

    Joe trying to rattle sorianos confidence before the playoffs start. He was pitching too well.

  248. mt says:

    Joe will say that Soriano wanted to pitch since he has not pitched in awhile.

    I still would not have let him do it.

  249. jjyank says:

    Well, whatever. A win is a win is a win. Keep it going boys!

  250. Rocky Road Redemption says:

    I am completely flabbergasted as to why MFIKY was in the game.

    D-Rod, while debatable, was understandable, but MFIKY? Really? Come on.

  251. #untuck, glad we won. But now watch the next three games be 1-0 games going into the 7th and we lose one because Robertson and MFKIY pitched w/ a 5 and 7 run lead respectively.

    • Tom Q says:

      Honestly, I feel better about him coming in protecting a 1-run lead tomorrow knowing he’s at least thrown a few competitive pitches in the preceding week.

      I’m shocked people are so up in arms about this. I think it’s a completely defensible move, trying to get a guy a minimal amount of work.

  252. yo fahgetabowdit says:

    Joe had to meet his gamely quota of at least 5 pitchers.

  253. The Real Greg says:

    I get Soriano. He hasn’t pitched since last Friday.

  254. The Real Greg says:

    And people are acting like he pitched a full inning. He pitched 0.1 inning.

  255. At least Stephen Drew isn’t only terrorizing the Yankees anymore.

    Man, the A’s have just been something else. And with a good weekend and a little luck, they can have a chance to win the West when the Rangers come to town for the last three off the season.

  256. forensic says:

    Why are people freaking out about Soriano in this game???

    He’s thrown precisely 0 pitches in the last week.

    Even Robertson had thrown just 10 pitches in the last week.

    There’s a point where too much rest defeats the purpose.

    • The Real Greg says:

      That’s what I’m saying. And Soriano only pitched a third of an inning.

    • Rocky Road Redemption says:

      I’m not freaking out, but yeah I think it’s stupid.

      • forensic says:

        But even your other comment doesn’t make sense. It’s understandable for a guy who has pitched in the last week to throw a whole inning but absurd (my word, not yours) for a guy who hasn’t pitched in a week to get a little work getting one out?

        • Rocky Road Redemption says:

          It was really more my feelings in the moment I guess. There’s not ACTUALLY much of a difference between a five run lead with two innings and a seven run lead in one, but at the time I definitely felt that our sucky relievers could have made it close.

          A seven run lead in the ninth just felt way more manageable-two more runs to work with and three less outs. You’re right though, the difference is actually so negligible that I should be against putting D-Rob in as well.

  257. mt says:

    The problem with using Soriano is that if for some reason he gets hurt or gets hit by a line drive in a blowout game like today Joe would never live it down with media and fans (maybe even players on his own team) even though he could just as easily get hurt in a close game tomorrow.

    Also if Sori really needed work why not have him work the whole inning – one batter really makes that big a difference in Sori’s rest/rust issue as as far as feel for pitching? What if he retired the batter on 1 pitch? Seems crazy.

    I also wonder why if Logan and Chamberlain were made to warm up why couldn’t they be used instead of Robertson and Soriano in a game where all everybody is trying to do is get some outs (no real mixing and matching when you have such a big lead). Instead Robby and Sori warm up AND get used and Logan and Joba still warm up.

    • The Real Greg says:

      I think you might have answered your own question. That’s probably why he only pitched a third of an inning. To lessen the probability of injury, while getting him some work.

    • mt says:

      I have seen closers come in during blowouts when they haven’t had work – the “too cute” issue of overmanaging is the one batter thing – does that really make a big difference?

  258. The Real Greg says:

    Joe just said exactly what we thought. Can’t give too many days off to a pitcher.

    • Tom says:

      Well then have him start the inning (and pull him after 10 or 15 pitches or whatever the magic “get the rust off” # is)

      What happens if he gets a groundball on the very first pitch… does that shake the rust off?

  259. Chilango says:

    Getting a guy “work” means more than .1 inning. Joba and Logar were already warming, as mt says. Another Girardi head scratcher. But allin all no big deal.

  260. Lol @ that Land Rover commercial. Are you an obnoxiously rich white mid 30s bird watcher w/ 1500 dollars worth of camera equipment? If so, Land Rover is the car for you.

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