Curtis Granderson taking fly balls in left field today

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12:57pm: Brian Cashman confirmed to Curry that both Gardner and Granderson will play left this spring as the team evaluates its options.

12:00pm: Via Jack Curry: Curtis Granderson is taking fly balls in left field during today’s workout in Tampa. This is obviously a precursor to the long-rumored position switch with Brett Gardner, which would put the better defender in the more premium position. Just to be clear, this isn’t a guarantee the switch will happen, but it does show the Yankees are seriously considering it. Expect them to try out the new alignment in numerous Grapefruit League games before making anything final.

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  • King of Fruitless Hypotheticals

    If you assume NY won’t resign Granderson, is he worth more to them in LF or trading to a team that needs a legit CF?

    • Havok9120

      Worth more to them in left, especially since (as Bourn found out) there aren’t a ton of teams willing to pay up for a CF at the moment. Trades killed that market this offseason.

      And that reasoning doesn’t even take into account the whole “we’re still a good team that can contend,” argument.

      • Barry’s Gift Basket

        Agreed, he ain’t getting traded.

      • jjyank

        Absolutely. If we traded Granderson, who plays LF anyway? I think it’s clear the Yankees are going to contend this year, trading him makes no sense to me. Stick him in left, try to win, and collect the draft pick next year.

        • MannyGeee

          Nunez, duh.

    • Govin

      If the Yankees care about winning this year, which I believe they do, then Curtis will be of more value playing in left field. Rather then being traded as center fielder.

    • Gonzo

      What do you think you could get in return for Granderson today?

      • Mike HC

        I would guess one top 50ish prospect and a couple of lesser, low ceiling pieces.

        • Gonzo

          Trying to think of a recent comp trade. Cant’t think of one.

          • Mike HC

            Off the top of my head, maybe the Carlos Beltran trade to the Giants a couple years ago?

            • Gonzo

              That’s not bad. That was roughly a top 50 guy for Beltran and some cash.

              • Another really long name which has no point (formerly “an important / cool name”)

                Granderson does not have the injury track record Beltran has, nor is he as old. Granted both guys/were due to be FA’s but I would think Granderson would be more valuable to a NL team because you know he can play every day.

                • Gonzo

                  I’m not sure that’s fair to Beltran. He was pretty much an everyday player when they traded for him and continued to play everyday. He also had a .289/.391/.513 line when they traded for him. Grandy’s line last year was .232/.319/.492. There are differences, but not all favor Grandy.

                  • Mike HC

                    Exactly. And of course there are going to be differences with every comparable. It is just supposed to give you a rough of idea of value.

                    • Gonzo

                      Agree, that’s why I like your comp. It has a good give and take.

  • pablos bolony samwich

    If you assume NY won’t resign Granderson, is he worth more to them in bed or trading to a team that needs a legit CF?

    • Barry’s Gift Basket

      Fail.

      • Govin

        Barry is there something you need to tell us.

        • Barry’s Gift Basket

          Haha Wut? no, I’m not Pablos Bolony Samwich, i wat just pointing out that he missed the reply button.

          • Govin

            Ok I’m gonna trust you on this one Barry.

        • Havok9120

          He is Spartacus!

  • trr

    Barry, you love you some Curtis Granderson.

    I’m OK with trading him, especially if we’re (gasp!) not
    in contention in July.

    However, I do think we’ll be in contention, and I don’t see the Yanks trading him, which means we should be prepared to lose him to FA next winter (if all the Cap Crap still holds…)

    • Barry’s Gift Basket

      I don’t love him that much, but he is the best power hitter this team has.

      As you said, if the yankees are contending there is no way he is traded. And, despite what some people say, Yankees in contention in 2013 is a very likely scenario.

    • Havok9120

      I’d be fine with trading him if the return is worth it. Just not at all clear that it would be.

      Would you be alright with trading him if the Yanks ARE in contention?

    • Cris Pengiucci

      I also don’t see the Yankees being out of contention and treading Granderson, but the question that comes to my mind is, how do you define out of contention? 10 games out? 15? 17? Under .500? These have all been proven historically to be surmountable obstacles. So at what point are they considered out of contention?

      • jjyank

        I don’t think the Yankees would consider trading him unless they are AT LEAST 5 games under .500 in July. Possibly even more. And I don’t see that situation happening anyway.

  • MB923

    wallace matthews ?@ESPNNYYankees
    Now grandy shifts to CF, Gardner to Rf, ichiro in LF

    • Havok9120

      Yes, because they were assigned to the “OF” rather than to positions in the outfield just like they have been every other day as reported by Jennings.

      Whole thing is pretty meaningless this early on, especially with Girardi saying they’ve got 3 OFs that can play any position at need.

    • Gonzo

      What is this volleyball?

      • MB923

        Haha seems like it

    • trr

      Wallace Matthews…sometimes the man will write effin’ anything to fill space…Ichiro has the best OF arm in the organization, why move him to LF?

  • jjyank

    A good sign. I doubt there’s a poster left here who wants to keep Grandy in CF and Gardner in LF, outside of those who apparently still harbor hopes of keeping his trade value higher.

    Put the better CF in CF and let’s try to win.

    • nsalem

      While in theory the switch seems like the rationale thing to do, Curtis still has to establish the fact that he is a competent left fielder. It is not a given considering that he has played only 22 games there and none since 2006 and 2007. There is a whole lot of left field in Yankee Stadium and it is probably one of the more difficult left fields to play in the league. Trying to gauge a ball coming at you off a MLB bat from a different angle than you have been seeing most of your career may not e so easy to master. Coming into the majors Nunez was not considered a terrible SS. He only earned this label after being switched between third ( a position he had only 5 or 10 games experience in the minor leagues several years earlier) and short in his first month or two with the Yankees. I am not claiming that this is the reason Nunez is now a poor shortstop but it should be worth noting.

    • MannyGeee

      Winning is for lames… lets go play GM mode on MLB12 and trade all teh CF’s!!!!

  • JohnC

    Just hope Grandy alters his approach to make more consistent contact this year. THose strikeouts the last half of the year and in the postseason were ridiculous

    • Barry’s Gift Basket

      I just hope Grandy has a third 40+ hrs season in a row.

      I like homers and the Yankees will need those.

      Strikeouts? mehh, they lost some of them with Swish going to CLE anyway…

    • Laz

      The strikouts were annoying, but compare what he did to his first year in NY. He struck out a whole lot more, but he hit 19 more hr. K’s are annoying, but you have a guy in your lineup that is hitting 40 hr, he is still an extremely valuable member of offense.

  • Blake

    Excellent….every marginal upgrade counts

  • El Messias

    I was thinking that the Yankees could trade Grandy for Soriano and a top Cubs prospect, with the Cubs taking some of Soriano’s contract. The Yankees do not get much worse in the short term, as Gardner shifts to CF, and the Cubs get Grandy who they can resign in their rebuilding process. Win-Win!

    • Havok9120

      I mean…I’d need a name for that “top Cubs prospect” thing. I actually like this idea a bit, but I don’t see the Cubs ever agreeing to it and, frankly, no reason at all for them to do so.

      • Laz

        Makes no sense to me. Cub’s aren’t in contention, so why would they give up a prospect to lose 98 games instead of 101.

    • jjyank

      Tell me, why would a rebuilding Cubs team want to re-sign a 33 year old player to a big(ish) contract and sacrifice a top prospect in the process?

      *turns force trades off*

      Let’s try this again.

      • El Messias

        I see your point, but Soriano has a contract that is twice as big as Granderson. If they eat about half and add Dillon Maples or Christian Villanueva, I would see that as a fair deal.

        • Cool Lester Smooth (Formerly YanksFanInBeantown)

          They’re in a total rebuild. The only thing replacing Soriano would do is give them a couple more meaningless wins and lower their draft position for next year.

        • jjyank

          His contract is bigger NOW, but you originally advocated them re-signing Granderson, which takes that advantage out of the equation. So the Cubs are going to pay for Granderson’s decline years and give up a top prospect? No way man. A team in full rebuild mode such as themselves will and should value keeping the prospects over one year of Granderson and then paying for his victory laps. I can’t imagine Granderson would even be useful to them by the time they’re ready to be a serious contender.

          • King of Fruitless Hypotheticals

            Granderson to the Dodgers after a freak injury, handful of prospects to the Cubs, Soriano minus most of his contract and a filler to the Yanks.

  • Greg

    we’re going to keep him for the year, and unless he does something totally marvelous, just make him a qualifying offer and let him go. In theory, it might come down to Cano or Grandy, but not both if we’re serious about $189M. We also have to think about the 3 guys coming up.

    • Laz

      I’m kind of on the other side. If he marvels then they need to let him go. If he bombs and can be had at $10M over a couple years, they should jump at that chance.

    • RetroRob

      He’ll only take up one of the three OF slots, and it’s highly doubtful Heathcott, Austin and Williams end up with all three OF positions. One might make it, one might bust, one might be traded. If all three make it, fantastic, but I wouldn’t plan on it.

      Also, go back and review Bernie Williams early career. First season below average, then he got better every year, but it took a number of seasons before he became a true impact player. It takes time.

  • Govin

    Heres the headline from pinstriped bible”Granderson taking flies in left field.” My question is, what does he do with the flies once he has them. he he he.

  • RetroRob

    Obvious move is obvious.

    That said, the team is only going to make a move like this at the start of the year, so 2012 was the first year where I could see this happening. No way they’d have moved Gardner to CF in 2010 when there were questions if he’d be an everyday player or might end up getting platooned. Defensive metrics show both rated in the positive that first year, so no need to make the move in 2011. Granderson’s metrics went negative in 2011, so they should have made the move last Spring, although Gardner was out all last season. No matter. They clearly weren’t going to make the move since they Gardner was in LF to start the year.

    It’ll be needed this year since their hitting is going to be worse than 2012. I also think there’s a good chance Granderson rates out positive again once he’s moved to LF.