Mar
20

Open Thread: 3/20 Camp Notes

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The Yankees beat the Red Sox this afternoon thanks to a four-run second inning that featured one double (Ben Francisco), one walk (Brett Gardner), two sacrifice flies (Jayson Nix and Eduardo Nunez), and a whole bunch of singles (Juan Rivera, Chris Stewart, Thomas Neal, and Melky Mesa). Vidal Nuno threw five shutout innings, allowing just two hits and one walk against one strikeout. David Robertson and Mark Montgomery each allowed a hit and struck a batter out in their scoreless innings while Joba Chamberlain tossed a perfect frame. It was his second consecutive day on the mound. Here’s the box score and here’s the rest from Tampa…

  • During the YES broadcast of this afternoon’s game, CC Sabathia said he threw 92 pitches in a minor league game. It was his second-to-last outing before Opening Day, and he and his surgically repaired elbow came through the day just fine. Sabathia allowed one run with eight strikeouts in six innings. [Bryan Hoch]
  • Clay Rapada is going to try to throw a flat-ground bullpen session — regular pitching mechanics, but not on an actual mound — later this week as he comes back from shoulder bursitis. He still hasn’t been cleared to do anything more than play catch, however. [Chad Jennings]
  • Josh Spence left this afternoon’s game after getting hit in the barehand by a comeback ground ball. It wasn’t hard hit and it deflected off his glove first, but I guess the Yankees didn’t want to take any chances. For what it’s worth, YES showed Spence in the dugout laughing with teammates afterwards, so I guess it wasn’t anything serious. No official update, however.
  • Ronnie Mustelier was scratched from today’s game because he’s still banged up after running into the railing the other day. Forgotten right-hander David Herndon is throwing bullpens and could pitch in a game in late-April. He’s coming off Tommy John surgery and figures to be in the bullpen mix once healthy. [Chad Jennings]
  • Both Montgomery and Matt Tracy were sent to minor league camp following today’s game, the team announced. The Yankees are down to 46 players in big league camp, but my unofficial count.
  • There was a scout from the Yomiuri Giants in camp today. Japanese clubs usually monitor the final weeks of camp and try to poach guys on the roster bubble, which I guess could mean someone like Jim Miller or Thomas Neal. Who knows. [Josh Norris]
  • The Twins will be in Tampa for a night game tomorrow. David Phelps will start and you’ll be able to watch that one on YES.

Here is your open thread for the evening. Both the Knicks and Nets are playing, so talk about either of those games or anything else here. Go nuts.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    I wonder if anyone at all has kept tabs on Brian Gordon since we sold him to Korea. One of the strangest afterthoughts in recent Yankee history.

    • Barry

      North or South?

      • trr

        LMAO

      • trr

        LMAO!

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Has he been seen with Dennis Rodman lately?

        • Barry

          No the only person I’ve seen Rodman with is this angry little short Korean dude with a bad haircut that everyone seems to be pretending to be nice to.

    • MickyP

      He will definitely be one to be remembered. That glove was interesting.

    • DC

      Google search indicates he in the A’s camp this year after spending last year Pitching in Korea. Doesn’t provide any other info.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        It’d be hilarious if the A’s sold him right back again.

  • Who hates bunts more? Axisa or Earl Weaver?

    Just noticed in the latest edition of Baseball America Jim Callis got a question about which Top 100 players have the potential to move up the rankings when 2014 rankings come out. He gave a few players and one was Tyler Austin. “Don’t be surprised if Austin starts earning acclaim as one of the best pure hitters in the minors by the end of the season.” He writes. Don’t know if this was mentioned yet, I’ve been on the road a lot recently.

    • Mike HC

      All of our top hitting prospects will start to really get hyped if they keep their production up in AA.

      • Laz

        If slade can stay healthy he could easily move up in the rankings. Flores probably won’t get the hype just because he doesn’t have the power or the speed.

    • Barry

      Newsflash.. Austin will be the next Yankee phenomenon.

  • Dalek Jeter

    So, I’m super late on this boat, but I’ll be damned if Parks and Rec isn’t one of the funniest shows on TV.

    • pablos wretched meatloaf

      So, I’m super late on this boat, but I’ll be damned if Parks and Dumps isn’t one of the funniest shows on TV.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Slipping.

      • MannyGeee

        meh

    • Cris Pengiucci

      Anyone following The Americans on FX?

      • MickyP

        Oh for sure. It’s the best new show in my opinion.

        • Dalek Jeter

          Really, has it been that good?

          • Cris Pengiucci

            I’m enjoying it. Definitely worth a look.

            • Cris Pengiucci

              Surprised JJ isn’t watching it. Then again, maybe he doesn’t get FX.

              • Dalek Jeter

                I’m pretty sure he does, because I know he loves Archer, then again he could just watch it on Netflix.

              • jjyank

                I get FX. I’m just slow on the uptake of new TV shows. I’m very rarely ahead of that curve, and usually wait for friends to tell me which ones are worth watching. Is it that good?

                • Cris Pengiucci

                  You should like it. It’s a good show and in line with your career field (future, not present).

                  • jjyank

                    I’ll check it out. If Netflix doesn’t carry it, Comcast On Demand usually picks up recent shows for a period of time.

      • vin

        I’ve been watching it too, but I’m usually a week behind.

    • Mike HC

      Definitely very funny show. I haven’t watched for whatever reason much of this season and part of last season, but I will definitely try to catch up at some point on Netflix or something.

    • Barry

      Nah, I disagree. Workaholics kills it.

      • Dalek Jeter

        Meh, I’m really not a fan…too much ‘bro’ humor for me. I mean I do laugh occasionally, but I’m not huge on it.

        • Barry

          it’s not really bro humor. I guess you either have to be or at one point were a stoner to appreciate it.

  • trr

    after following them in the WBC, I need a break

  • vin

    Regarding Rapada, does pitching off a mound put that much more stress on the arm than off flat ground? Or is it more of an issue of guys getting amped up to be on the mound because that’s what they’ve been trained to do? Or is it easier to throw at, say, 75% effort off flat ground because of balance?

    • jjyank

      I think at least part of it is the extra torque that is put on the arm throwing at a downward plane.

    • Barry

      You throw off the mound you’re throwing down and pushing off, more force involved.

  • Jim Cavanaugh

    Mason Williams get in the game ???

  • MannyGeee

    Who do you think the Yomuri Giants scout was reeeeeally there to see?

    “Hey Ronnier, you like Tampa? Well Tokyo is gonna blow your DICK OFF!!!”
    – Hal Steinbrenner, with a check for 20M Yen in his pocket

    • Bob Buttons

      20 million yen is like 200k.

      • MannyGeee

        OK, wiseass. 20 TRILLION YEN. This is, after all, a future Hall of Famer.

        Thanks for stepping all over my joke over some FX semantics, dick!

        • Bob Buttons

          Oh no blame Hal. He promised me 0.001% of the money he earns from selling him to Yomiuri if I kiss his ass on twenty different sites.

          If I don’t point that out I’d only get 20 bucks.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            Cashmansan failed.

  • Bob Buttons

    My two cents on recent news (since I’m a bit bored and rather opinionated about them)

    1) The guy who got shot entering the wrong house. Some of you may recall I’m a pro gun ban guy, but in this case the homeowner did nothing wrong, it’s just a series of unfortunate events. Drunk guy I’ve never met somehow got into my house at 2AM? Hell yeah I’m shooting. Annoys me that there are idiots out there who think the homeowner did something horribly wrong. Wrong, maybe, but not that wrong.

    2) British tourist in the Indian hotel. If she can afford to travel to India I doubt she’s desperate enough to jump off her balcony to scam a guy. I also highly doubt that a woman travelling alone wants to be woken up at 4AM in India, amidst all the violent incidents towards women in recent days. However I find it strange nobody responded after ” She had shouted for help for more than an hour …” Either way, I know where I’m NEVER visiting in my lifetime.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new.....urist.html

    • jjyank

      I’ve been a bit disconnected from the news recently, but if India is that bad, my list of places to visit might need rethinking. Read: they’re all probably worse than India.

      • Bob Buttons

        That ain’t even the tip of the iceberg. A bunch of people raped a Swiss tourist while tying her husband up only weeks after the bus incident. In some places it’s a literal shithole. When your country is full of people, sanitary problems are bound to happen.

        • Now Batting

          BREAKING NEWS: India is a lousy country to visit

          • Bob Buttons

            Frankly I never had much hope for it but I’d never imagine it to be that crappy.

            • Now Batting

              I had a friend in undergrad who loved India. Learned Hindi and Urdu and studied the culture. He went to live there for 6 months. In the first week he had a bottle cracked over his head and was robbed at knife point. Been disenchanted ever since.

              • Bob Buttons

                Third-World National Tourism Agencies: Lying their ass off to make hellholes look hospitable.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      You get your news from interesting places, Bob.

      • Bob Buttons

        I try reading the news from several sites if it’s interesting enough because some sites update the news report. Just so happens British sites show up a lot more often on google.

    • Barry

      I had a drunk dude, probably early twenties walk into my house and go to sleep on my couch. I woke him up with a knife to his throat. He won’t make that mistake again.

    • forensic

      That kind of stuff happens all the time (well, the first one, maybe not the second one but who knows with the recent news from there).

      You have a link or something for whatever brought this current story into the news?

      • Bob buttons

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....house.html

        That would be the 1st link. Second link is already in the original thing.

        I’m just talking about it because I just saw those last night and they freak the hell out of me. (Well, second, not the first. The first is shocking in terms of sad but not surprising.)

        • forensic

          Eh, it might sound a little cold, but I have a hard time calling that sad really. The kid’s a dumbass and brought it on himself doing numerous things that put him in that position. The neighbor had to protect himself and his family in that situation.

          • Bob Buttons

            I don’t find your opinion cold and I do agree that the death is only blamed upon the young guy. However it sounds like he’s a good guy who did some dumb things that a lot of teenagers do (granted teenagers aren’t the smartest bunch). Ignoring his grounding and underage drinking is inexcusable but I can’t help but feel sorry for the kid (I’ve done a crap load of dumb things. Granted, never illegal.) and I can’t help but feel sorry for the homeowner either. Somewhere some ignorant boobs who didn’t read the whole thing are seeing the homeowner as the bad guy, and even the articles sound like they are looking down on the poor homeowner.

  • OldYanksFan

    We have heard of 6 or 7, but according to USA Today:
    “There are at least 90 players whose names appear in the Biogenesis Clinic records.”

    It’s gonna get very ugly.
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/.....m/2001581/

    • MannyGeee

      Impossible, there are only 40 men on the Yankees roster. They must have listed each name twice and then wrote the starting lineup in a third time.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        The numbers will decrease once they count “Alex Rodruguez,” “Alex Rgz,” and “Alex Pingapequena” as the same person.

    • Bob Buttons

      Rumor: Yogi Berra, Reggie Jackson, Joe Girardi, Ron Guidry et al. named in Biogenesis Clinic records.

      • dkidd

        what about babe ruth? that guy had a completely different physique by the end of his career!

        • Bob Buttons

          MLB issued a statement saying “our technology does not allow us to do PED testing for dead bones. Therefore sticking to the ‘innocent until proven guilty’ routine, we will allow Mr. Ruth’s records to stand until sufficient technical advancement.”

          • Pat D

            Innocent until proven guilty? Have you been following steroid issues in MLB for the last 10 years?

            • Bob Buttons

              And you believe whatever MLB says?

    • Jim Is Bored

      I don’t know if people are just intentionally ignoring the fact that the clinic wasn’t only doing sketchy things. Being in their records is not even remotely proof that PED’s were involved.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Looked at the author. Laughed. Moved on.

      • Barry

        At this point I could care less about all of this lead-up. I’ll believe it all if/when it all goes down. I don’t doubt MLB is investigating, they have to. We’ll know more when either they announce suspensions or the feds get involved.

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  • Dalek Jeter

    So I just heard about MLBn’s new show, MLB Now, it seems like it’s basically clubhouse confidential, only with Howard Reynolds there as the No Donkey for the “Old School” (or ppl who refuse to admit new stats are better than new ones.)

  • Robinson Tilapia

    I find myself missing my former city a bit tonight, as 24 in a row just doesn’t have the same power to it when you’re 1,200 miles away.

    Go Heat. Let’s get to 33.

    • Pat D

      Now I understand why people don’t like you. You root for such unlikeable teams. I mean, it’s bad enough you root for the Yankees, but to also root for the Yankees of basketball? Tsk tsk.

      Next you’ll tell me you root for the Cowboys or Patriots, Notre Dame or Alabama football and Duke basketball.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Oh gosh no.

        Remember, Pat…..whenever site regulars express negativity towards one another, somewhere out there, a troll gets an erection.

        • Pat D

          I always thought that was bait. Get the troll on here, let the troll be a troll, slap troll down until it does something to get banned.

        • Pat D

          Oh, and that’s right. You’re not the one who has decided to critique certain of my jokes. That is another…

        • Dalek Jeter

          Yes, we need to show solidarity. All issues should be colluded else were.

          • Pat D

            So what you’re saying is I shouldn’t point out your spelling error?

      • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

        I root for the Yankees, Notre Dame, and Duke (although the last two I only follow peripherally, especially Duke. I did get into ND this year when it became clear that it was going to be a fun season-which it was, title game aside. Duke I basically only follow through March Madness).

        Basketball nobody, football Giants. Giants are odd in that they win a lot and have four SBs, not a small number, but somehow they always end up coming off as a likeable time with an “underdog” quality to them.

    • Manny’s BanWagon

      Let’s go Heat. Shoot your load in the regular season because you know there’s gonna be some sort of slump at the end of this streak. Hopefully it hits just as the playoffs start.

    • Dalek Jeter

      Wait, people care about the NBA?

      • Pat D

        You’re confusing the NBA with the NHL.

        • Dalek Jeter

          Ha, don’t tell that to most of the people I’m friends with on Facebook. Arguments have broken out many times over Devils or Rangers. Also, I think Axisa is a NHL fan. I find it more enjoyable than the NBA though.

          • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

            I also know no NBA fans but a decent amount of NHL fans, me included, and the Devils pissed me the fuck off. I’m hoping that since we’re still tied and we’re finally getting Brodeur back that’ll give us the edge.

            • Dalek Jeter

              Isn’t Brodeur like 1000? I mean seriously, how is he still good? Is he a Time Lord or something?

              • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

                He’s the Mo of hockey. An old player at a specialized position that remains freakishly good despite their age.

                Not quite as remarkable as Mo (last year aside he’s been generally more injury prone and he’s no longer THE top goalie in the league, just ONE OF the top goalies in the league), but there’s definitely a close correlation there.

                • Dalek Jeter

                  In a moment of honesty I’d say Mo’s no longer the top closer in the league, just one of the top. I mean, there’s a reason Kimbrel was gone in round like 6 of my fantasy draft and I was able to get Mo in round 10 (aka, the same round as Mouse Tacos and Rickie Weeks)

                  • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

                    Yeah, because he was injured last year. Closers are all so close each year that “one of the top” and “the top” is pretty much a crapshoot. The point is that Mo has seen no drop in production. At all. Brodeur has. His worst year was in 2007, and it was followed by possibly the greatest year by a relief pitcher of all time in 08′ (an ERA+ of OVER THREE HUNDRED). 09′, 10′, and 11′ were all typical Mo.

                    That he’s not THE top closer just means that one closer happens to be having a great year that particular year, but they all fall. Papelbon. K-Rod. Soria. They all had their moment in the sun, and some of them are still good. But none of them are among the best-and yet, still, Mo is.

                    • Dalek Jeter

                      IMO Longevity is the reason Mo is the best ever, but just because he’s the best of all time doesn’t mean he’s the best now. One could make the argument that Derek Jeter is the best SS of all time, but it’s clear that today that Tulo and Reyes at least are both better than him.

                    • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

                      The difference is, Mo hasn’t gotten any worse. That other relievers have recently had some better years is pretty coincidental.

                    • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

                      Also, you could make the argument for Jeet, but for what it’s worth my money is still on Wagner.

                    • Dalek Jeter

                      Absolutely, Wagner is still and probably will always be number 1. Unless Tulo can some how find a way to stay healthy for like 13-16 years.

                • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

                  Don’t disgrace Mo like that. Nik Lidstrom is the Mo of hockey. Brodeur is the A-Rod if anything given his off-the-ice nonsense.

                  • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

                    A-Rod? Brodeur manages to keep a great relationship with the media and avoids scandals. His personal life outside of hockey couldn’t matter less to me.

                    Brodeur is in his 40s and still really, really good, and he plays at a specialized position. There’s no exact Mo parallel because Mo isn’t just really good. He’s great. Brodeur is as close as you’ll find though-I’ll give you Lidstrom too.

                    • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

                      …The difference being, Lidstrom doesn’t play a really specialized position like goalie.

        • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

          The difference being the NBA is unwatchable and the NHL exciting, just run by one of the worst commissioners in any sport ever?

          (Okay, yeah, I escalated this into a pissing contest. Sue me.)

          • Barry

            Idk, to me the only time the NHL is even watchable is in person or in the playoffs.

            • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

              Playoff NHL is the shit.

              • Robinson Tilapia

                You all turned my Heat rooting into a…….hockey thread? Where are we, Calgary?

            • Dalek Jeter

              And to me the only time any basketball game is worth watching is the last 4 minutes of a playoff or NCAA Tourney game.

  • mike myers

    Jeff Passan of Yahoo! Sports reports that Major League Baseball “is honing in on Alex Rodriguez and Ryan Braun as two main targets” in their probe of the Biogenesis clinic.
    Passan writes that, “in addition to being the two biggest names in the Biogenesis logbooks, Rodriguez and Braun have in the past provided MLB with information about alleged PED use the league believes to be false.” One source involved told Yahoo! Sports that “there’s no question in my mind they want those two guys.” This certainly doesn’t sound good for two of baseball’s biggest stars. MLB has already suspended Cesar Carrillo 100 games due to “unsatisfactory” cooperation in related to the Biogenesis probe, and it sure sounds like more suspensions could be coming.

    • mike myers

      Looks like yanks might save 50 pay checks on A Rod

      • Barry

        We could only pray

    • Now Batting

      If they’re going to suspend Arod I hope they do it soon so he can serve it on the DL.

      • Manny’s BanWagon

        As a Yankees fan I hope Arod comes back healthy and productive and avoids a suspension but part of me is so disgusted by his deceit and lying that I hope MLB really nails his ass to the cross.

    • Bob Buttons

      The same Passan who argues about how the Yankees suck at getting talent despite having above average WAR by homegrown pitchers because there weren’t spread out amongst a large number of fringe pitchers.

    • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

      They haven’t found anything yet, so let’s see.

    • LK

      Sounds like MLB is really conducting a fair and balanced investigation.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      I truly hope they give some players immunity in an effort to take down Braun and A-Rod. It would prove the entire system is a total sham beyond the shadow of a doubt.

      • Pat D

        How would that be revealed though? Through some leak?

  • Dalek Jeter

    My opening day line up:
    CF Gardner L
    3B Youkilis R
    2B Cano L
    DH Hafner R
    1B Rivera R
    LF Fransisco R
    RF Ichiro L
    C Cervelli R
    SS Nunez R

    *cries*

    • forensic

      As one of the main power threats in the lineup, I can’t bat Youkilis 2nd. Have to keep him around 4th and put Ichiro at the top of the order (though I’m not sure Girardi would keep 3 lefties in a row at the top of the order). Given some of the options though, he may just have to bite the bullet.

    • mt

      Hafner is a lefthander and probably wouldn’t go against Lester. Think Francisco/Mesa would be in LF and the other one would DH (assuming Jeter is on DL on April 1)

  • Bo Knows

    anyone see this?

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....ref=topbar

    I’m conflicted about this, on one hand I’m extremely jealous of Harper, on the other I feel extremely happy that I do not possess such a card because I am certain, I would be 900lbs due to eating chipotle constantly just from the fact I wouldn’t need to pay for it.

    • Barry

      They should of given it to a group of homeless people instead, compliments of Bryce Harper, Future Yankee.

  • i like bacon

    so jeter has a inflamed ankle and took a cortisone shot and everyone on here is blah blah. beleive me thats not good. his previous cortisone shots led to him breaking his leg. i am no doctor but he wont play more than 100 games this year.

    • Barry

      I’ll bet you 145.

      • Barry

        and close to 200 hits.

        • forensic

          That would probably lead to around a .330-.340 average…

      • Bob Buttons

        He’ll only take bets measured in pounds of bacon.

        • Barry

          Better than bags of dicks

          • i like bacon

            per cashman jeter to start season on the DL

        • i like bacon

          i love derek hes the man. this will hamper him through out the year. no way near two hundred hits. 100 games. you all be crying by allstar break.

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