Spring Training Game Thread: Sabathia’s Debut

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Sixteen days from now, CC Sabathia will be on the mound for Opening Day. Today he will make his first Spring Training start after a series of simulated games designed to keep AL East rivals from seeing him before the season. Sabathia got his pitch count up to around 40 pitches last time out, so he’ll probably go 60 pitches or so this afternoon. Given his offseason elbow surgery, this game is a pretty important step. Here’s the starting nine…

  1. CF Brett Gardner
  2. SS Derek Jeter
  3. LF Ichiro Suzuki
  4. DH Travis Hafner
  5. RF Juan Rivera
  6. C Frankie Cervelli
  7. 3B Ronnie Mustelier
  8. 1B Dan Johnson
  9. 2B Corban Joseph

And on the mound is the left-hander from Vallejo, CC Sabathia. Here are the day’s second stringers, courtesy of Chad Jennings.

Available Pitchers: RHP David Robertson, RHP Joba Chamberlain,LHP Vidal Nuno, and RHP Mark Montgomery are all scheduled to come out of the bullpen.

Available Position Players: C Francisco Arcia, 2B Gil Velazquez, SS Addison Maruszak, 3B Jose Pirela, LF Matt Diaz, CF Melky Mesa, RF Thomas Neal, and DH Bobby Wilson will come off the bench. Johnson will play the entire game, apparently.

The game is scheduled to start a little after 1pm ET and can be seen on YES and MLB.tv (no local blackout). Enjoy.

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  • Eddard

    I’m sure the division rival Blue Jays will be shocked at what CC has to throw at them. It’s not as if he’s pitched against them the last 4 years. Good move by the Yankees to keep the big man a secret.

    • jjyank

      I’m sure the Yankees are the only team to ever do this.

      *sigh*

      Who cares?

      • Eddard

        I wonder when they’re going to retire Paulie’s number. He certainly deserves it. I’ll never forget the Paul O’Neill chants in the 2001 WS. Great Yankee, great man.

        • Barry’s Gift Basket

          If anything, they should un-retire some numbers.

          • Pat D

            Which ones would you unretire, out of curiosity?

            • Barry’s Gift Basket

              9, 23, 32, 44, 49, probably 10 too.

              • RetroRob (Live from Amsterdam)

                I’ll keep Donnie Baseball. Add #1 to that list of unretired. Martin was a great manager at times, could have been a HOF manager if he could get his act together. He could not.

                Rivera and Jeter should have their numbers retired. No one else from the recent great teams, from Bernie to Jorge to Andy, and certainly not Paulie, should have their number retired. Give them a day, give them a plaque, create a Yankee HOF where they can be inducted. The retirement of numbers, however, should be of only the highest order.

                • Pat D

                  Really not trying to start an argument, but I think both Pettitte and Bernie are more deserving of having their numbers retired than Mattingly.

                  • RetroRob (Live from Amsterdam)

                    No worries. I wouldn’t argue that strongly, if at all.

                    I think that any player whose number is retired should be a HOFer, but I don’t think every HOFer should necessarily have his number retired. Joe Gordon is now in the HOF. I don’t think the Yankees should even vaguely consider retiring his number (whatever it was.) So the standard to have a number retired goes beyond being a HOFer, and that’s how Don Mattingly is just about the only player I can think of who will break my own rule.

                    You can take the stars of Pettitte, Posada and Bernie and add them all together, and they do not burn as bright as Mattingly’s star in the view of a very large segment of the Yankee universe fanbase. Retirement of a number is about greatness and a certain level of “specialness” that few achieve. For a period, he was considered the best hitter in the game, a HOF-caliber player. For all of Andy’s meaning, he has never been the best, and he does not have the level of fan support and meaning as Mattingly.

                    That’s why I can see an exception for Mattingly, yet I won’t argue that strongly, but I can make a case.

                    • Pat D

                      Winfield > Mattingly.

                    • Manny’s BanWagon

                      Winfield had longevity but Mattingly was better at his peak before his back gave out.

                • jjyank

                  I’m not sure if I agree about the specific players, but I agree with your premise. Getting your number retired should be reserved for the guys who spend like, 10+ years with the team and are icons.

                  On the players…maybe I’m biased because these are the guys that I grew up with. But Bernie, Posada, and Andy (in addition to Rivera and Jeter, obviously) gave the Yankees their entire career (sans a couple of season with Houston for Andy) and they’re all close enough to HOF caliber that they’ll be on the ballot. Add in the 5 WS rings, and I would do it. I know the team can’t keep retiring numbers or they’ll run out, but I would feel really, really sad to see another 51, 46, or 20 running around out there.

                  And absolutely not for O’Neil. Love the guy, but he wasn’t with the team long enough.

                  • jjyank

                    Well, 4 rings for Bernie, but still. Dynasties don’t come around very often, and the key players of that dynasty should be remembered.

                    • Barry’s Gift Basket

                      I hear you, believe me. From what I’ve read we are about the same age (24), so I grew up watching those guys too, but it has to stop, retire 2 and 42 and be done with it.

                      About being sad of watching the numbers on other player’s backs, I think it depends on wich player you hand the… lets call it respected number. I think it could be pretty cool if a couple of years down the road Mason Williams is wearing 20, Gary Sanchez 51 and stuff like that, maybe David Price wearing 46 idk.

                    • jjyank

                      True, it depends on the player. Montero wore 21 in the minors, I was certain (before the trade, obviously) that he would be given 21 in the majors as well. And that would have been great.

                      Maybe the Yankees should do something like this: Retire the numbers of the all time greats. The Jeters, the Riveras. And do a semi-retirement of the borderline guys. By semi-retirement, I mean don’t retire them officially, but keep them out of service until a hot shot prospect comes along. I still have a worn, slightly ripped and tattered Bernie Williams poster in my closet. The only person I would be okay with wearing his 51 would be a top 5 Yankee prospect. I’d love to see Mason Williams take 51. Same number, same last name, same position. Poetic.

              • Manny’s BanWagon

                No way on 44 and 49.

                Pettitte has had longevity but wasn’t close to being as good as Guidry was in his prime.

                As for 44, Reggie is in the HOF as a Yankee so I think he deserve it too.

            • Barry’s Gift Basket

              Actually the only thing I respect about the redsox is their policy(?) to retire numbers.

              • Pat D

                Except they’ve violated their own policy at least twice.

                • Barry’s Gift Basket

                  Yeah, that’s why I used the question mark. I just think that’s a good start point to determine wich numbers get retired. Ten years with the team and to be a HOFer.

  • trr

    seems like Musty (we need a better nick name!)is getting a good look at 3rd. I’m hoping if he can show enough defensively, he’ll get some
    time there in April; I like his bat!

  • Mscott

    How about: Ronnier “I Bought A Vowel!” Mustelier?

    • dkidd

      fun fact: aurelio lopez is the only mlb player to have all five vowels in his first name

      • Barry’s Gift Basket

        So does the original A-Rod, Aurelio Rodriguez (Duh I know).

      • pat

        Oooh that is a fun fact.

  • dkidd

    sterling’s home run call for mustelier?

    the mind reels…

    • jjyank

      I can imagine him laying awake at night trying to come up with one.

  • Barry’s Gift Basket

    Wow, it looks like Musty at least has the arm.

  • jjyank

    That wasn’t the hardest play, to be sure, but nice nonetheless, Mustelier.

  • NYCSPORTZFAN

    Fat dude like CC will get rocked today.. U don’t even have to look at the score today to know that.. Hes gonna get drilled one yr soon, becasue hes such a fat slob..

    • jjyank

      Does your mom know that you’re playing hooky from school today?

    • Eddard

      He’s lost weight but who cares what he looks like as long as he’s an effective pitcher?

      • MannyGeee

        You know you’re trolling right when:

        Eddard is even telling you you’re overboard.

    • Steve (different one)

      Y no Jorge Vazquez? Dud can rak!!

  • Eddard

    And that’s what Frankie brings- Energy. They won’t do a 50/50 split at C, once Frankie gets rolling he’ll catch 80% of the games.

    • Barry’s Gift Basket

      And fist pumps, he brings lots of fist pumps.

  • jjyank

    Cervilli! Making his case for the starting job.

    • Barry’s Gift Basket

      I wouldn’t be surprised if they start the season playing near to 50% of the time each of them, then the one who is… playing better will start to gain some more ground.

      • jjyank

        Sounds about right.

      • RetroRob (Live from Amsterdam)

        Yup. I noted before, the “loser” might still start 40% of the games at the start, unless one of them just goes crazy, and the only one capable of that would be Cervelli. He does have some hitting skills, unlike Stewart.

    • Mike HC

      I’m starting to believe in Cervelli but can’t help think I’m being a fool for putting too much stock into spring training.

      • jjyank

        I feel ya dude, I’m there as well. Very slowly, I am starting to think “hey, just maybe the catching situation won’t be as bad as we’ve been fearing”. But yeah, at the same time, the other side of my brain says “dude, it’s spring training”.

        We’ll see. I would say that I am cautiously….very cautiously…optimistic. Relatively speaking.

        • Mike HC

          Yup

  • Eddard

    As I said yesterday, Hafner is going to crush in YS. Great signing.

  • teddy

    that was a bomb

  • jjyank

    Yeaaaaah Pronk!

  • teddy

    great more injuries

  • jjyank

    Jeez. Hope Musty isn’t hurt too bad, our options are limited enough as it is.

  • Havok9120

    Well that’s…unfortunate.

  • Barry’s Gift Basket

    Oh Joba that’s a 20 mustache tool.

    • jjyank

      +1

  • frank

    CC looked like shit. 86-89 with the fastball. That’s not big league velocity.

    But it’s only his first spring start! It’s no big deal!!! It’s a big deal when you’ve logged as many innings as CC has and you had a surgical procedure on your elbow in the offseason. This team is fucking cooked. You’re lost if you think otherwise.

    • jjyank

      Alright then. I actually saw CC hit 91 a few times. And yeah, his spring debut doesn’t mean the whole team is cooked. Get off the ledge, first male name only.

    • DC

      lol

    • Pat D

      Oh, shit! I’m lost! I’m lost!!!!

      Someone please find me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Dick Stockdale

      Where am I?

    • lightSABR

      CC started figuring it out. After the first inning, he went 4.0 IP, 0 R, 4 H, 1 BB, and 2K, with 3 groundouts and 3 flyouts. That’s not his normal performance, but it’s not terrible, and there’s no reason to expect better during his first spring training start.

  • dalelama

    This line-up really stinks.

    • jjyank

      So do you. Take a shower.

    • Pat D

      Smells like teen spirit.