Apr
16

Game 12: Alive

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(Photo via Yankees)

(Photo via Yankees)

I’ve gotten a lot of mileage out of baseball as a coping mechanism over the years, and the last 36 hours or so are no different. Anytime something tragic happens like what happened in Boston yesterday, I turn to baseball. I used to just watch it or read about it, maybe play a video game once upon a time, but nowadays I just write. I don’t know what else to do. As my pal Carson Cistulli put it: “Baseball is not a distraction, it’s a reason to be alive.”

The Yankees return to the field tonight following their third off-day in the last six days, but at least this one was scheduled. The other two were unplanned. The Diamondbacks are in the Bronx for the first interleague series of the year and the third time overall since the 2001 World Series, another time baseball helped me cope. I know I wasn’t alone back then. Here’s the lineup that will face right-hander Brandon McCarthy

  1. CF Brett Gardner
  2. 2B Robinson Cano
  3. 3B Kevin Youkilis
  4. DH Travis Hafner
  5. LF Vernon Wells
  6. RF Ichiro Suzuki
  7. SS Eduardo Nunez
  8. 1B Lyle Overbay
  9. C Chris Stewart

And on the mound is #42 for a night, Ivan Nova. Oh yeah, the Yankees are honoring Jackie Robinson this evening after having yesterday off.

Tonight’s game is scheduled to start a little after 7pm ET and can be seen on YES locally and MLB Network nationally. Enjoy.

Andy Pettitte Update: Pettitte (back) threw 40 pitches in the bullpen this afternoon and said everything went fine. He expects to start on Friday, but the Yankees haven’t made anything official yet. They probably want to see how he feels the next few days before making anything final.

Mark Teixeira Update: Teixeira (wrist) will see a doctor at some point this evening for his latest checkup. He’s been simulating swings and running the bases hard, though he has yet to be cleared to swing a real bat. Tex has been doing everything but that, it seems.

Categories : Game Threads
  • Dalek Jeter

    CMW starting for S/W on Friday

  • The Real Greg

    With Ivan Nova, has it been a case of the league taking about a year and a half to figure him out? Because I don’t think a year and half of solid pitching can qualify as a fluke.

    • Bo Knows

      I don’t think so, I think it’s his command last year and this year. He’s striking out batters which is very good but he is leaving his pitches up and they are getting crushed

    • Winter

      I hope you’re not calling what he did last year “solid pitching.”

      • vicki

        run support is a SKILL, man.

  • Pat D

    Unfortunately, this runs contrary to the title of this post.

    R.I.P. Pat Summerall.

    • vicki

      pat and madden in the booth was pure pleasure. we are diminished.

    • Bob Buttons

      Indeed.

      Where have all the good Giants kickers gone.

      • Cool Lester Smooth

        Hey, Lawrence Tynes was responsible for my favorite moment last season.

        He’s my second favorite Giants skill player after Matt Dodge.

    • Pasta

      Amen i great man

  • Larch

    I just noticed today that Ivan Nova has a career reverse split:

    —— wOBA
    LHB: .330
    RHB: .347

    http://www.fangraphs.com/stats.....8;season=0

    Anyone have a guess why?

    • Luis Castillo (Not the one who dropped the ball)

      No idea, and seems weird to me; The curveball and slider are good sometimes lots of movement, and the change-up is… well not existent.

      In the meantime, lets hope he does 0k this evening.

  • wheels

    Lets sweep these dudes.

  • Jag

    Anyone else in the city unable to get YES for some reason? All other channels are working for me this evening but YES is just a black screen at the moment.

    • Jag

      Never mind, it came back up.

  • Big Member

    so yesterday granderson visited my school for a 42 promo. so my school set up a grand entrance, replicas of mo’s and robinson’s jesrseys, over a dozen of my fellow long time yankee fan schoolmates waited for granderson to appear at the entrance.

    these long time fans waited eagerly for the yakee all star. then finally, a fat balding black guy (who ended up being a parent) appeared at the entrance. many fans screamed granderson and flashed photos. they can now tell thier children that they met curtis granderson.

    • Winter

      I can’t tell from your story, did Curtis Granderson end up visiting and they just took pictures of the wrong guy? Or was it some different guy who also was named Curtis Granderson?

  • Kramerica Industries

    Hopefully I’m not grabbing for some Novacaine after tonight.

    We’ve already seen what that does to me before.

  • Havok9120

    Hey everybody.

    Happy “why is Mo pitching in the fourth inning” Day.

  • forensic

    Love MLB’s blackout rules. I almost forgot that the D’backs were part of my blackouts, of which there are at least 6 teams.

    Absurd!

    • http://twitter.com/Paddock9652 Stratman9652

      In the mean time, I get YES and by all means should be blacked out but am currently watching it on mlb.tv and have been most of the year.

      D’Backs blackout shouldn’t matter anyway because they are the away team and last I knew only home games are subject to local blackouts.

      • http://twitter.com/Paddock9652 Stratman9652

        Eh, just re read the rules, home or away doesn’t matter.

        Which really doesn’t make sense because I have been watching on mlb.tv all season. In the mean time I keep getting blacked out of Red Sox, and Blue Jays games but can watch Mets games. Perhaps my wifi is bouncing some strange signals. Who know.

  • vicki

    i saw some dback fans lamenting that, with aaron hill out, they now have three of their projected opening day lineup on the DL. meow meow meow.

    • Havok9120

      Good stuff.

      DOOMED!

  • Havok9120

    “Gritty, scrappy, and fundamentally sound.”

    What, are they all Professional Baseball Players as well?

  • Bo Knows

    not a bad pitch but why a fastball instead of a breaking ball

  • Eddard

    Nova’s going to get back on track against an NL lineup that hasn’t seen him. Good to see Nuney back in the lineup. We can’t have Nix booting those groundballs with Nova on the mound.

    • Dale Mohorcic

      Keep trollin’, trollin’, trollin’.

      • Dalek Jeter

        Heh, I actually agree with Eddard. Jayson Nix does not belong on a ML Roster right now. I mean, last season when he was a no-bat, some glove guy it was debatable, but right now Nix is a no-bat, no-glove type.

        • WhittakerWalt

          In other word, a BALLPLAYER.

          • WhittakerWalt

            *words

    • vicki

      i’ll take the other half of that bait. nova registered a very average 45% groundball rate last year.

  • MeloJeter

    Uh, where is the baseline?

    • The Real Greg

      I would say the grass.

  • OldYanksFan

    Jeez…. I hate to see Cano expending too much effort to make that tag.

  • Mickey Scheister

    Novas living up in the zone.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Come on Ivan!

  • Dalek Jeter

    Come on Ivan!

  • Anderson Silva

    Nova is so bad at hitting his spots.

    • Mickey Scheister

      Nova is so bad.

      There, fixed.

  • Mickey Scheister

    Nuno please…

    • Dalek Jeter

      Yes, the 24 year old LHP junkballer who has never pitched about AA. Besides his really good spring, I really don’t get what the hype over Nuno is.

      • The Real Greg

        Look at his stats in AAA this year.

        • Dalek Jeter

          Look at Shelly Duncan and Brad Halsey’s AAA numbers from back in the day.

          • Dalek Jeter

            Jeff Karstens also had pretty good AAA numbers.

        • Havok9120

          You mean two turns through?

          SOLD!

          • The Real Greg

            Combined with the ST numbers and the numbers from last year. He is a LOOGY possibility at the very least.

            • The Real Greg

              And Nuno actually has 3 starts.

            • Havok9120

              He’s an emergency LOOGY possibility right now, especially since he’d be the secondary option in that role and I’d actually like to see what he can do pitching regularly. There are virtually no circumstances under which a guy should go from scouts and clubs thinking “meh, that’s one heck of a breaking ball, maybe we’ll have something here in a year or three” to “Make room on the 25 man roster!” in the space of 6 weeks.

      • Havok9120

        It’s hilarious. There wasn’t a single person saying that Nuno was going to be a good option this season until he pitched well in ST. September call up at best. This is the definition of a Prospect Bubble.

        • Dalek Jeter

          I think he could be a useful LOOGY or maybe even just LHP out of the Pen going forward but I’d take Ivan Nova 7 days a week over Vidal Nuno.

          • Havok9120

            Oh, I think he could be a useful starter. I just think people need to breathe a bit. This is not a guy ANYBODY was saying “yep. He’ll blow through AAA and hit the MLB on the fast track,” in ANY capacity, let alone as a starter.

            • Mickey Scheister

              So if you had to pick two of Nova, Hughes, Phelps or Nuno. Who would you pick for the rotation?

              • Havok9120

                I don’t have to pick two of them. Because there’s actually 2 other guys ahead of Nuno on the depth chart. At the moment I’m for no changes for one more turn through the rotation. If nothing changes by then, I’d slot Phelps in for one of Hughes/Nova.

                • Mickey Scheister

                  To your point, he’s not on the 40 man. If they didn’t have to do so much shuffling on that front IMHO, being more stretched out that the other options (if he was on the 40 man) I’d have to believe he’d be given a chance to start a couple if it hit the fan.

                  • Havok9120

                    Whether or not he should be is debatable, but as for whether or not he would be given such a chance I feel safe in saying “no way” between the roster crunch and the way the Yanks take it slow with trusting prospects.

        • Mickey Scheister

          I’m on record last year calling for Nuno. All he’s done thus far, at every level, is impress.

          • Havok9120

            Calling for him for what, exactly?

            • Mickey Scheister

              On the big club!

              • Havok9120

                Straight from AA? Or, if last season, from a half season in AA?

                I know that breaking ball is awesome, but jeez. Even fast track relievers spend a couple months in AAA.

                • Mickey Scheister

                  Advanced age and results! At the end of the day, baseball reference doesn’t say “good stuff, little results.” It has the numbers, Nuno has put up great numbers for over a year now and isn’t dependent on two pitches. Nova has been pretty awful for almost a full calendar year now.

                • Mickey Scheister

                  Late last year, when rosters expanded, I felt he was deserving. To actually answer your question.

  • Chilango

    A day off after a complete game. Short …leash…Nova…please

  • The Real Greg

    Tell you what though, Nova played Ross like a fiddle in that at bat

  • forensic

    Well, they didn’t score. Guess we gotta take what we can get at this point.

  • Anderson Silva

    that was a terrible pitch, lucky for him it Ross didn’t feel like swinging

    • The Real Greg

      Nova set him up with the fastball high so Ross didn’t know what to look for.

    • Mickey Scheister

      86 belt high. If he keeps tossing them up in the zone, it’ll be a long game.

      • forensic

        Not for him. It’ll be a really short game for him.

        • Mickey Scheister

          True dat.

  • Eddard

    Nova threw too many pitches but at least he didn’t give up any runs. He got out of the jam with no damage. Nobody in this lineup scares you like Detroit’s lineup had in Nova’s last outing so he just has to attack these weak hitters.

  • Alkaline

    Let’s jump on him early!

  • yeayo

    A slider that stayed flat and in the middle of the plate. Ross should have crushed that.

    • The Real Greg

      That is why pitch sequence is so important. Nova set him up with a high fastball the previous pitch.

  • Dalek Jeter

    How do they not have Coney doing this game? He probably loves Mcarthy’s use of sabermetrics!

  • The Real Me

    Game can be seen on MLB Nationally, unless you live in CO (probably a couple of other places too). I hate when that happens.

  • wheels

    Alright Robbie

  • Alkaline

    Let’s go Youk.

  • Jamie G

    Mccarthy is one of the funnier guys to follow on twitter if you’re into that

  • Dalek Jeter

    Yeah Youk! Let’s go Pronk!!!

    • Dalek Jeter

      Damnit Pronk!! Just a fraction of an inch underneath it…

  • Anderson Silva

    Very nice ABs by Robbie and Youk. Now we need Hafner and Wells to do something cause after them the good hitters end.

    • The Real Greg

      With the exception of Overbay, of course.

      • forensic

        Are you saying Overbay is a good hitter?

        • vicki

          he’s positive about everybody tonight. clearly somebody hacked greg’s sn.

  • Anderson Silva

    damn, just missed. And that was a good one to hit

  • The Real Greg

    It almost seemed like he pitched around Wells.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Ugh…why is Ichiro still in the line-up?!

    • Mickey Scheister

      Because he defines success, he sells well?

    • WhittakerWalt

      Veteran presents.

  • Anderson Silva

    unintentional intentional walk there..

  • WhittakerWalt

    I’d rather pitch to Ichiro, too.

  • vicki

    imagine that.

  • The Real Greg

    Gotta start thinking about starting Boesch.

  • wheels

    Ichiro is done.

  • Eddard

    Why is Ichiro still in the lineup? Boesch had 2 hits last game and should have been given a chance to build on the momentum.

  • forensic

    Come on Ichiro, join the season. You’re making me look really stupid for saying I was sort of fine with your contract (and I don’t need any help looking stupid, for those of you who were thinking that already…).

    • Mickey Scheister

      I too was fine with it. Hence the reason we are not GMs.

  • The Real Greg

    What will happen is that Granderson will replace Ichiro in the outfield.

    Unfortunately the signing of Ichiro became a necessity retroactively because of the injury.

  • Anderson Silva

    I’d rather have anyone else up there than him. Ichiro is the worst hitter on the team right now but somehow he’s hitting 6th.

    Brilliant job by Girardi.

  • SeventhAce

    Ichiro batting 6th in the midst of his “slump” with Boesch showing he can at least hit… /facepalm

    • SeventhAce

      I spoke too soon, I didn’t notice “Stewie” at the bottom of the lineup….

      2 black holes in the offense.

  • yeayo

    What is going to happen when Granderson comes back? No way they will platoon wells if he is still hitting well.

    • The Real Greg

      They aren’t going to play three lefty outfielders. Ichiro will sit.

    • Pasta

      Ichiro and boesh should rotate from this point on
      Wells will be dh alot against lefties when grandy comes back

  • Pasta

    Chavez not looking good this year.

  • forensic

    At least they got McCarthy up to 30 pitches already.

    That’ll help with the next three guys likely seeing maybe 8-9 in the second inning.

  • Anderson Silva

    and that’s why they don’t give up on Nova. What a beauty of a curveball to K Chavez.

  • The Real Greg

    Now that I think about it, the problem is batting Ichiro 6TH. He should be batting 8th and switched with Overbay.

  • OldYanksFan

    Ivan Nova is throwing batting practice.
    We have been very lucky so far.

    • Anderson Silva

      I disagree. Much better this inning. The curve is looking mighty fine.

      • OldYanksFan

        He is hitting the middle of the plate on most strikes.
        There’s one they didn’t miss.

      • Mickey Scheister

        The first couple looked good and down, now he’s back up again. Frustrating!

  • OldYanksFan

    Another fat one….

  • Dalek Jeter

    If they’re dead set on keeping Ichiro in the line-up why not bat him 8th like last season?

    Gardner
    Cano
    Youk
    Pronk
    Wells
    Overbay
    Nunie
    Cervelli
    Ichiro

  • OldYanksFan

    3 runs in 5 would be lucky.

  • forensic

    Steve Berthiaume just called that double like it was a walk-off grand slam to win the world series. Ugh…

    • The Real Greg

      He’s a Yankee-hater through and through. I have no problem with that.

  • Chilango

    Ivan the Terrible. He’s been lucky tonight (so far)

    • The Real Greg

      I don’t know. That strikeout was nasty.

      • Chilango

        Yes a nice sinking fastball.

  • Pasta

    Fishboy gets a hit
    Emmm love pollock broiled with lemon butter.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Wow…that was…like a REALLY GOOD pitch to get Pennington.

  • yeayo

    Damn that fastball had some sink on it.

  • Pasta

    That last pitch was his best all night

  • Long-Past-His-Day-Rod

    Nova really has some filthy stuff. If only he could consistently command it.

    • Bo Knows

      He’s his own worst enemy, the talent is there, his ceiling is immense but being consistent with his command is what stands in the way of it. I’ve said it constantly, if he can approach the command of his rookie year he’s an easy #2.

  • Kramerica Industries

    I always love the rare nights when Al’s in the booth.

    • Pasta

      Get rid of kay give me al coney and kenny or oniell.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Lol listening to them try to justify/turn away his stat use. I personally love it.

  • BigBlueAL

    Random question, am I the only one who thinks Travis Hafner looks a little bit like Clint Dempsey??

    • RetroRob

      …if I knew who that was I’d answer.

      • BigBlueAL

        lol, he is a soccer player. Probably the best American player right now.

        • RetroRob

          And now you know the extent of my soccer knowledge.

    • Dalek Jeter

      If Dempsey put on 100 lbs and grew his face out.

      • BigBlueAL

        Yeah not body wise lol. I dunno but Ive seen the camera show him in the dugout after at-bats and just basically showing his face and man for some reason I keep thinking to myself he looks alot like Dempsey.

        I dunno WTF Im thinking but whatever lol.

  • RetroRob

    Of course, Kay is ignoring McCarthy improved as a pitcher after he started using more data.

  • Pasta

    Pitcher up
    Too bad romine got hurt he was raking

    • The Real Greg

      Well….

  • The Real Greg

    How about the black hole with a base hit?

    • vicki

      blind squirrel.

  • Preston

    The catcher battle isn’t over until Chris Stewart says so.

  • forensic

    This is now 4 out of 12 games that Stewart has started. It’s a little early to say Cervelli has taken over the starting spot, as Mike’s article intimated yesterday. A night game after a day off, no less.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Yay Brett!!!

  • The Real Greg

    Do they walk Cano to face Youkilis?

  • Pasta

    2 out rally i like it.

  • Eddard

    Now they’ll pitch around Robbie if they’re smart. They need to capitalize on these opportunities.

  • flamingo

    Was just saying, “Do SOMETHING, Gardner.” Thanks, man.

  • forensic

    Come on Cano, please break through here…

    • forensic

      Ugh. Now let’s go Youk!

  • WhittakerWalt

    The ol’ Chris Stewart special.

  • wheels

    Let’s go Youk!

  • Pasta

    I still feel grimy rooting for this guy

  • Anderson Silva

    2-0 pitch right down the pipe… Youk needs to swing at that

  • flamingo

    Ugh.

  • flamingo

    At least he’s at 59 pitches.

  • Mickey Scheister

    That strike zone got real small. C’mon YOOOUUUHHKKKKKAAA!

  • BigBlueAL

    RISP fail, how I havent missed you.

  • vicki

    the warm familiarity of rispfail.

  • forensic

    Ugh, 59 pitches, 4 hits, 2 walks, 2 bases loaded situations in 2 innings, but zero runs. That sucks!

    • Mickey Scheister

      They’re doing their best 2012 Yanks impression. RISPFAIL.

      • Jim Is Bored

        It’s almost like every team fails with RISP.

        No, that can’t be.

        • vicki

          this lineup wasn’t supposed to even get runners in scoring position in the first place. #rispfailWIN

  • Dalek Jeter

    Ugh…good call at first. At least we’re racking up McCarthy’s pitch count…he has to be near 60 after two innings.

  • Anderson Silva

    Shitty job by Youk. Very frustrating.

  • Kramerica Industries

    McCarthy has thrown 59 pitches and has a WHIP of 3.00.

    This is annoying.

  • Chilango

    ARGHHH

  • Eddard

    6 runners LOB. McCarthy is not pitching well and we’re letting him off the hook. 60 pitches through 2 innings and no runs. He’s leaving more pitches up than Ivan Nova.

  • The Real Greg

    Again, I don’t count two out failures as RISP fail because the odds of scoring with 2 outs are not good.

    • Tom

      Nova needs to learn how to put hitters away.

      Batters who’ve seen at least 5 pitches:
      4 for 6, 2BB

      This is pretty much a lack of command – get the count deep enough and he will eventually make a mistake or walk you.

      4 pitches or less:
      1 for 7

      The curve in the dirt is a nice put away pitch, but if the batter takes it, he gets in trouble when he has to command a fastball for a strike. Mix in a commanded fastball to a corner 0-2, 1-2, or throw a curve/slider in the zone (or at least near the zone)

  • Pasta

    Atta boy youlk
    :)

  • The Real Greg

    Each of the bases loaded situations are coming with 2 outs. They need to come with fewer outs for the Yankees to take advantage.

  • WhittakerWalt

    Lookin’ good, Meredith.

    • Dalek Jeter

      I just noticed she has the nicest light brown eyes.

      • vicki

        she has eyes??

        • Alkaline

          Don’t look! You’ll be petrified!

        • Dalek Jeter

          very pretty brown ones, actually :p

      • WhittakerWalt

        I just noticed she has the nicest light brown eyes everything.

  • forensic

    Boston doing to Cleveland the same thing the Yankees did to Cleveland. That sucks.

  • forensic

    Defensive catcher!!!

    • The Real Greg

      Wrong. That was on the pitcher.

      • forensic

        No, it didn’t even hit the ground until it was behind Stewart.

        • The Real Greg

          And as mentioned, even if he blocked it, he wouldn’t have gotten Parra at second.

          • forensic

            I don’t care about that. Catch the damn ball. It’s supposedly the only damn thing keeping you on a major league roster, how about you try to do that?

  • Alkaline

    Stewieeeeeeeee

  • The Real Greg

    That was on Nova. He pulled it.

  • Dalek Jeter

    DEFENSIVE CATCHER can’t get across the plate to block the ball.

    • The Real Greg

      Wrong for the second time.

      • Dalek Jeter

        He didn’t even make an attempt to try to block it. Yeah, it was on Nova…but I’d like to see a guy who has the reputation as a good defender at least make an attempt to get in front of a wild pitch.

        • The Real Greg

          It wouldn’t have mattered if he blocked it. Parra was running on the pitch.

          • Dalek Jeter

            That’s a facel argument. Just because an outcome is probable doesn’t mean you shouldn’t put forward a maximum effort to do your job.

    • Winter

      Even if he blocks it I doubt he gets Parra who was running on the pitch.

  • Pasta

    Nova fuck inning this guy has the testicles of fly.

  • Eddard

    Stewart is a lot like Nix, worthless with the bat and with the glove. Neither should be on the major league club.

    • Dalek Jeter

      Get out of my brain Eddard!!

  • The Real Greg

    Nova’s bad attitude is beginning to show itself.

    • Mickey Scheister

      Yeah, Nunez told him to remove his head from his ass.

  • Pasta

    Set up for another triple play.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Interleague play is no different from inter-conference play in the NHL, NFL, or NBA.

    I have no problem with this.

    • Dalek Jeter

      The other 3 don’t have changed rules in half the ballparks, otherwise I’d agree with you.

      • vicki

        this. they make the pitcher hit like it’s the 1920’s or something.

    • Winter

      Consider this:

      Yankees play at Rockies in a couple weeks. What if the last game of that series is rained (snowed) out? The Yankees obviously don’t go back to Colorado. It increases the odds of what happened with the Indians happening again.

    • forensic

      Except there are different rules for the AL and NL, but not in any of those other sports. Just add the DH to the NL and you’re on your way.

  • forensic

    These announcers won’t stop going on and on about Prado.

    Imagine it’s ESPN and substitute Pedroia for Prado, and you’ll have an idea what it’s been like all game long.

  • The Real Greg

    If Nova gets out of this, I will tip y hat to him.

  • Pasta

    He nibbling again afaid to challange the hitter

  • Wil Nieves #1 Fan

    Ivan Nova is bad at pitching #BingIt

    • vicki

      i’ll bite. what’s with #bingit?

      • Wil Nieves #1 Fan

        Some stupid twitter hashtag that Ken Rosenthal started the other day. People were raging.

  • trr

    Watching Nova pitch gives me a headache.
    Think I said the same thing about Hughes last start

  • Alkaline

    Oh boy. Let’s get out of this unharmed, shall we?

  • Anderson Silva

    0-2 to full-count single. Back to being atrocious.

  • Eddard

    This is why you take advantage of all those men on base. Now Nova needs to get out of this with limited damage.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Nova can just lose it very quickly.

    Not finishing 0-2 counts. Poor command. Same old Nova.

  • Chilango

    Stewart almost lets a one hopper get past him.

    • sangreal

      good thing he can hit

  • Winter

    And here we Gova…

  • trr

    So what’s the over/under for how many runs Nova gives up this inning

  • Pasta

    Stewie showing that gold glove
    He must have pictures of girardi in a hotel room with a goat.

  • Raymond Freemont

    Is there anything more depressing than Nova and Hughes, two yankee prospects, being total crap?

    • Winter

      Hughes isn’t total crap.

      Nova isn’t really either. Without him, our bullpen might get too rested.

  • Cool Lester Smooth

    Huh? Nova got an out?

    Imagine that.

  • The Real Greg

    See what happens when you load the bases with less than 2 outs? The pressure comes off the hitter to put the ball in play and get a hit.

  • WhittakerWalt

    I want Nova to give an in-game interview right now and claim he’s pitching great.

    • Mickey Scheister

      After the game he will. At least he’s confident.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Not Shawn Kelly…anybody else!

  • Raymond Freemont

    The diamondbacks are like the new red sox west, all white and gritey.

    • Mickey Scheister

      They are very white, overly Caucasian.

    • Pasta

      Tan and gritty montero parra prado

  • Long-Past-His-Day-Rod

    Why the hell is Kelley warming up instead of Phelps?

  • Anderson Silva

    he’s awful

  • The Real Greg

    So was everybody expecting different?

  • Winter

    Ivan “2.1” Nova

  • Cool Lester Smooth

    Seriously, Nova needs another month in AAA.

    Of course, I wouldn’t say no to two months, or the rest of the season for that matter.

    • Mickey Scheister

      THIS!

  • Pasta

    Ross still killing us
    Nova i see your future enjoy SWB.
    Bring up the Wang

    • forensic

      I still have no idea why people think Wang will be any better than these guys, other than obscure memories from half a decade ago.

      • Pasta

        Wang pitched great in wbc

        • Dalek Jeter

          As well as obscure/awesome memories from half a decade ago…god Wang was awesome.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          He faced literally zero MLB hitters in the WBC.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Where’s that sinker from the bottom of the 2nd?

  • Kramerica Industries

    My worst Nova memory has to be that game last year against the O’s, when he was given a 5-0 lead after the first inning, and then gave up seven runs in the 2nd to totally erase that (and then some).

    He reminds me of AJ with lesser stuff. Total enigma.

    • Dalek Jeter

      This. Cause that slider right there shows the stuff is there, it’s just a matter of command.

    • Winter

      You see, with AJ there was always that thought in the back of your mind that he could go out there and pitch a no-hitter. Of course, he didn’t really have that sort of stuff much after his first year in pinstripes, but the thought was there. Nova doesn’t even really have that good stuff (certainly not AJ’s stuff).

  • The Real Greg

    Failure to draft and develop quality pitching. I can’t stress that enough.

    • Raymond Freemont

      They draft plenty of pitching, problem is they have shown no ability to be able to develop it.

    • JMK

      As it turns out, you can stress that enough.

    • WhittakerWalt

      Consistently having the best record in the league = almost always drafting later than the other teams. That’s a big part of it.
      And sometimes stud prospects just don’t pan out no matter how hard you try or how much you coddle them. I’m looking at you, Hughes and Joba.

      • The Real Greg

        You can get quality starters in the second round or later.

        Jon Lester, Gio Gonzalez, Yovani Gallardo, Trevor Cahill, Jordan Zimmerman etc.

        • WhittakerWalt

          Sure, but it’s much more of a crapshoot.

    • Chilango

      Hughes and Nova were quality prospects. It’s a crapshoot. And they turned out to be crap.

  • Chilango

    Nova PG: “I pitch real good, I feel strong”

    • Winter

      “I got three outs. That’s my job, right?”

  • forensic

    Needless to say, this game is a far cry from helping Nova’s case for staying in the rotation for more than a couple times through.

  • Cool Lester Smooth

    “All things considered, not terrible for Nova”

    • WhittakerWalt

      That’s the best we can hope for these days.

    • Chilango

      He hasn’t been pulled yet..

  • Kramerica Industries

    Could’ve been better, could’ve been worse.

    In other words, the story of my life.

  • yeayo

    30 fucking pitches in that inning.

  • Eddard

    The problem is Nova has actually been better than Hughes. Phelps can only take one spot but he should take one spot.

    • Winter

      Nova has been better than Hughes? Are you comparing Hughes’s 2 start sample size against Nova’s 1.5 start sample size? Because if you compare last season, Hughes was much better.

      • Chilango

        Definitely. Hughes put together a bunch of quality starts.

  • forensic

    All things considered, that could’ve been much worse. Now gotta hope the offense keeps getting guys on and eventually brings some home too.

  • The Real Greg

    Just disappointing overall. And the problem is that nothing has seemed to have been done to change the way that the Yankees draft and develop.

  • Dalek Jeter

    I hate to say it, and I know you guys want to recreate the Passion w/ Nova in the place of Christ, but that could have gone far, far worse.

  • Pasta

    Bautista out
    Tough playing without your peds

    • Cool Lester Smooth

      What?

      Go away.

    • WhittakerWalt

      It’s not like our guys are above that sort of thing. Check yourself.

  • Mickey Scheister

    If Nova does keep shitting the bed, do they run him out for 10+ starts if he looks equally as bad or do you think they have some sort of bail out number? This is hard to watch.

  • forensic

    Ugh, an interview with Britney Griner? Seriously???

    • Kramerica Industries

      What are you watching/listening?

      • forensic

        The D’backs broadcast, unfortunately.

        They were sitting in the stands with her for nearly the whole inning because she apparently was just drafted first overall in the WNBA. We got to see her nails, coordinated colors in jersey’s, and found out they already named a street after her…

  • Cool Lester Smooth

    Fucking Parra

  • Kramerica Industries

    Jeez.

    Nice catch.

  • Eddard

    Come on Ichiro, start a 2 out rally.

  • WhittakerWalt

    Don’t worry, Ichiro will keep the chains moving.

  • Mickey Scheister

    Nice catch. I wonder if he’ll hit we’ll enough to win another gold glove.

    • Mickey Scheister

      *well

      Fuck predictive text

  • MannyGeee

    So I am not reading the first 250 comments on this thread yet, as I can only assume 200 of them are about how Nova sucks. A few notes, as my mother just left after bringing me and the fam some dinner, and I have only paid 1/2 attention to this abortion of a game:

    – This is by far the most boring game of this young season. Just so….. Meh.
    – Nova is LOST. It’s not physical, it’s definitely mental. His stuff is there when his mind is in it, but he just doesn’t seem to have a fuck to give…
    – great night to not start Montero and Ross in fantasy. Shoulda checked the probablse a before I got all indignant for my team.
    – NOT looking forward to Sweet Caroline tonight. Leaves me very conflicted inside.
    – LOVE Hanrahan going on the DL already. It is so fitting.

    • Winter

      I actually think Sweet Caroline is a good gesture. Hate how they play it in Boston, but still a good gesture.

      • OldYanksFan

        You prefer Kate Smith?

    • Dalek Jeter

      I actually have a soft spot for this song…and I’ve always ignored it when we’ve been @ Fenway.

      • MannyGeee

        That was weird.

      • WhittakerWalt

        I’ll always love it because of Beautiful Girls, even though the Sox are trying to ruin it for me.

    • WhittakerWalt

      I’m confused- don’t you think we should be talking about how much Nova sucks? That’s basically the only thing happening in this game, him sucking.
      Nova has zero fucks to give. I don’t know why.

      • MannyGeee

        RISP-Fail is happening too, FWIW

  • Mickey Scheister

    Now Ichi gets a hit. Ohhhh baseball gods, WHY!??

  • Anderson Silva

    Offense going to sleep after not being able to get the big hit. I just hope it doesn’t happen yet again.

  • BigBlueAL

    I hate this song.

  • Pasta

    Parra has the bigest glove i have ever seen that thing is a jai lai cesta.

  • MannyGeee

    This is weird… I love the fans, they look like I feel about this. Confused

  • Winter

    I like the shot of the guy eating ice cream.

  • Alkaline

    I’m actually loving this. I hope Boston enjoys it, as well.

  • Dalek Jeter

    …isn’t that exactly how last inning started?

  • VO

    Haven’t commented here in forever. Thought I’d stop by to say how awesome I think the Sweet Caroline thing was.

    • Mickey Scheister

      I agree. Shows class.

  • Tom

    Nova needs to learn how to put hitters away.

    Batters who’ve seen at least 5 pitches:
    4 for 6, 2BB

    This is pretty much a lack of command – get the count deep enough and he will eventually make a mistake or walk you.

    4 pitches or less:
    1 for 7

    The curve in the dirt is a nice put away pitch, but if the batter takes it, he gets in trouble when he has to command a fastball for a strike. Mix in a commanded fastball to a corner 0-2, 1-2, or throw a curve/slider in the zone (or at least near the zone)

  • Chilango

    Joe will wait until they’re buried THEN take him out and burn the pen. Fuck this

  • MannyGeee

    For the record, my guess was Mo Vaughn before they played spoiler.

  • nsalem

    A shot of Youk during Sweet Caroline would have been a nice touch.

  • Winter

    Feel free to hate me for this, but I love that the Yankees did that. I hate the Red Sox connotations of the song, but it was a great way to show care and support.

    Plus it was better than a commercial break.

  • Mickey Scheister

    Another extra base hit! Only two today? Not bad Nova, not bad!

    • nsalem

      It;s early

      • Winter

        It’s the fourth inning. That’s like the seventh in Nova-innings.

  • The Real Greg

    So they bunt the runner over.

  • http://twitter.com/Paddock9652 Stratman9652

    Can’t wait to hear how Nova doesn’t think he pitched badly.

    • nsalem

      If he can get two more scoreless innings he will have pitched well.

      • vicki

        this occurred to me. of course some quality starts are of poorer quality than others.

      • forensic

        He’s already at 83 pitches. 2 more innings may be out of reach.

  • wheels

    Dude come on.

  • The Real Greg

    I mean 4IP 2ER.

    Not great but not horrible

    • WhittakerWalt

      It’s not so much the 2 runs (which we’d all have signed up for) but the WAY he’s doing it. Not putting guys away, running up the pitch count, just looking disinterested in general.

  • Mykey

    Alright Nova. Nice work.

  • Eddard

    Much better inning. If he can get through one more and give us 5 IP, 2 runs that’s about what you can expect from him. They need to start crushing McCarthy who is leaving pitch after pitch up in the zone.

  • Dalek Jeter

    That was a pretty impressive inning. Apart from the 3rd Nova hasn’t looked terrible, just maybe slightly below average.

  • MannyGeee

    Fun Sweet Caroline fact, almost entirely the reason I think it’s everything wrong with baseball and the “Pink Sox” bandwagon movement that you get force fed in New England:

    “But it wasn’t until 2002, when John Henry’s group bought the Red Sox, that Sweet Caroline become an official Fenway tradition. That’s when the new ownership requested that Tobey play the song during the eighth inning of every game.”

    • vicki

      it doesn’t bother them that neil diamond is new york quintessence?

      • Rooting for U.S. Steel

        More so than The Ramones?

  • wheels

    This was a response to the ugly comment from Pasta, which was removed.

  • Mickey Scheister

    What was Nova yelling there? “I’m doing a good job!” ?

    • Dalek Jeter

      2R over 4IP w/ a chance of going 6 IP? If you had told me before we started in the 4th inning of the game that’s where we’re going to be, I’d be totally okay with it.

  • Chilango

    Does he go 6 and not give up any more runs?

  • The Real Greg

    Might see Stewart bunt here.

    • Mickey Scheister

      There are pitchers with better non-SSS slash line better than Stewy.

    • Chilango

      No way, Down by two. He’s swinging away.

  • MannyGeee

    LoverBay continues to hit well for a scrap heap pickup.

    As an aside, LoverBay is engrained in my predictive text now. So that’s exciting…

  • MannyGeee

    Bottom of the order doin work!

  • The Real Greg

    And Chris Stewart gets another hit.

  • Eddard

    Ok, Chris Stewart is 2/2. They have to score now.

  • Pasta

    Stewie

  • Cy Pettitte

    every single Stewart hit is exactly the same

    • Dalek Jeter

      Yeah, basically…dribbler/humpback liner through the 5.5 hole

  • nsalem

    Woops the b word

  • Winter

    Doesn’t the YES booth know Gardner couldn’t lay down a bunt to save his life?

  • OldYanksFan

    Can Phelps pitch the 6th and 7th?

    • nsalem

      On two days rest probably not.

  • OldYanksFan

    I love how Gritner works the count….

  • forensic

    I wanted Stewart to bunt, he doesn’t and then gets a hit.

    I didn’t want Gardner to bunt, he doesn’t and then strikes out failing to advance the runners.

    I can’t help but think John Sterling would have something to say about that.

  • OldYanksFan

    Shit. Good pitch to get Gritty.

  • The Real Greg

    Nasty changeup.

    Making the key pitches when he has to

  • Mykey

    Michael Kay once again demonstrates he doesn’t know what having a base open means.

    • Chilango

      Love to hear Leiter shut Kay up.

  • MannyGeee

    Cano infuriates me with his pitch selection. So talented, yet seems to take when he should swing and vise versa

    • MannyGeee

      No fucking sooner do I say it, Robbie makes me look like a fool in the best way possible

    • vicki

      you were saying…?

  • vicki

    stud.

  • Cy Pettitte

    “Just changed the sign”

    well that was a mistake.

  • The Real Greg

    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • forensic

    Demolished!!! Atta boy Cano!

    Thanks for that pitch right down the middle.

  • Dalek Jeter

    ROBBIE CANO!!!!

  • Eddard

    SHOULDNT HAVE PITCHED TO HIM! LOL!

  • Pasta

    Lol can believe they pitched to Cano lol

  • Winter

    No doubt about that one.

  • http://twitter.com/Paddock9652 Stratman9652

    That was fucking crushed.

  • BigBlueAL

    Give him his 200 mil!!

  • Kramerica Industries

    Don’t ‘cha know?

  • YankeesJunkie

    Obviously a Yankee Stadium cheapee!

  • wheels

    Pay him whatever.

  • Pasta

    Pronk nice

  • Dalek Jeter

    Wow, Hafner is strong…half swing knocks a double into the corner!

  • forensic

    Hafner doing his best impression of Gardner!

  • OldYanksFan

    Can Nova hold the lead?
    Can Pedroia dunk a basketball?

  • Pasta

    95 pitches in the 4th
    Havent seen that since Joba tried to be a starter.

    • YankeesJunkie

      I remember seeing this when Jaret Wright tried to be a starter as well.

      • Pasta

        Aj did it a few times too.

  • Dalek Jeter

    C’mon Vernon, the D’Backs have the middle of the order next inning, I’d love for Nova to have more than one run to work with…

  • OldYanksFan

    Good protective swing by Wells….

  • Cy Pettitte

    at this rate this game might be over by 11:30 if we’re lucky

  • OldYanksFan

    Really good to see Wells NOT over-swinging….

  • vicki

    runner touches second, the hook.

  • Govin

    I have two things to say first, poor Mo all his teamates are like hey can we borrow your jerseys. Second Mr. mcarthy has thrown 102 pitches in four innings, thats pretty impressive.

  • Winter

    No, Michael Kay, I don’t think Jackie Robinson was named after Robinson Cano.

    • Dalek Jeter

      I wanted to say something..but I wanted to see if he’d correct himself. But if he’s not going to…shame on him.

  • Winter

    Even the YES booth knows this is probably Nova’s last inning.

    • nsalem

      I think he goes batter to batter in the 6th,

  • Dalek Jeter

    Wow, did Nova just K Goldschmit on 3 pitches?!

  • Pasta

    Oh god not boone logan

  • Pasta

    Flucking ross owns us

    • The Real Greg

      .181 with 4 HRs and 7 RBIs in career.

  • Eddard

    Nova has really battled back tonight. One more inning and he’ll have grinded through 6 with only giving up two runs, without his best stuff.

    • Dalek Jeter

      I doubt he comes out for the 6th, pitch count was right around 100 and there’s a LHH’er opening the inning.

      • Bo Knows

        He was at 94, I’d send him back out with a short leash

  • Pasta

    The worst swing i have seen all year congratz ichiro

    • Winter

      Ichiro’s swing has always looked bad. Back in the mid ’00s that didn’t matter because he was hitting .350 anyway.

      • The Real Greg

        I think the difference with Ichiro now is that his swing is slowing down with age.

      • Dalek Jeter

        Because he had the recognition, reaction, bat speed, plate coverage and foot speed to make up for it…now he has maybe 1 of those things in his foot speed.

  • vicki

    nuni loses his helmet; everybody drink.

    • Winter

      Seriously. He needs a magnet in his head or something.

  • nsalem

    I’d save my lefty. Let’s see.

  • SDB

    Logan. Oh no.

  • The Real Greg

    This is where a guy like Nuno could come in handy. A lefty longman

  • forensic

    Watch out for rust here with Logan, on top of his other issues. Hasn’t pitched in over a week.

    And as I finish typing this Hinske goes down pitifully.

    • vicki

      incidentally, does anybody else remember when eric hinske didn’t look like a disgusting slob?

      • forensic

        Maybe his rookie year before he ate his rookie of the year trophy?

  • Dalek Jeter

    I think D-Rob’s gotta be available for two innings tonight, he’s only pitched once in the last week.

    • Dalek Jeter

      Just looked at the line up, Parra’s gonna be leading off the top 7th, I’d leave Logan in to face him then go to Robertson for 5 outs.

      • forensic

        You know Girardi won’t do that though. The Robertson part at least, he might leave in Logan for 1 batter.

        • Dalek Jeter

          Yeah, looks like it’s gonna be Jobber…

      • nsalem

        That;s not his his job description.

  • The Real Greg

    Well that was quick

  • Chilango

    Nice pitch selection, great pitch.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Wow, way to be a prissy bitch, Stewart..

  • WhittakerWalt

    Jeez, does any better in baseball make worse contact than Chris Stewart?

    • WhittakerWalt

      *batter

      Dude, spellcheck.

  • Chilango

    And here comes Jobber.

    • WhittakerWalt

      Fingers crossed.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Jobber?

    gulp.

    • WhittakerWalt

      SliderSliderSliderSliderSliderSliderSliderSliderSlider

  • Eddard

    I hate mlb.tv , always crashes and service is terrible. Can’t watch any of the games or even listen to John and Suzyn.

  • The Real Greg

    Bullpen efficient so far

  • Kramerica Industries

    Thank you for a real rendition of God Bless America.

    I will always appreciate those.

    • Kramerica Industries

      Or not.

      I spoke too soon.

  • Cervelli is the Man

    Must be your internet connection, my mlb.tv works beautifully.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Lot of people having trouble based on my Twitter feed. Not working for me either, I want to GIF Ichiro’s lolswing at the 40-foot breaking ball.

    • DC

      I can’t even get Gameday to work properly tonight.

  • Chilango

    Now you can uncinch the sphincters

  • Cervelli is the Man

    Mariano is going to earn his pay tonight I think.

  • forensic

    Joba’s been much better his last few outings, since he stopped walking everyone obviously.

  • Tom

    For some reason I have this (irrational?) belief that Joba will be very effective this year.

    He still doesn’t have all that many innings under his belt post TJ surgery (especially with the ankle stuff mixed in), but I think he will be more than solid for a 7th inning guy(TM).

  • Dalek Jeter

    The Nationals and Braves remind me of the Yankees/Sox of 2003-2005/6. Everybody knows they’re the two best teams, yet we know they won’t face each other in the WS

    • forensic

      I’m not all that sold on the Braves yet. The sweep of Washington was good, but otherwise they’ve played the Phillies, Cubs, and Marlins.

      Far from a difficult early schedule.

      • Tom

        Don’t sleep on the Marlins – they have a shot at cutting their deficit in the standings to 8.5GB tonight

        9.5GB after playing just 13 games? That’s not easy…

      • Kramerica Industries

        That, and the fact that the Braves are good for some September choking. If they get to October, then they choke there.

        Haven’t won a playoff series since 2001.

      • vicki

        i buy them. heyward and bj haven’t even started to hit yet, and they will.

        • forensic

          Sure, but Justin Upton won’t have a 1.400 OPS all season, or Evan Gattis over 1.000, or Juan Francisco over 1.000, or Chris Johnson nearly 1.000, or Paul Maholm having a 0.00 ERA, or all but 2 of their pitchers have ERA’s at 2.5 or lower.

          • vicki

            no indeed. their pitchers won’t need them to either.

  • WhittakerWalt

    Chavez is still looking pretty hunky, I must say.

  • Cervelli is the Man

    Is it me or does this pitcher’s pants seem a bit too tight?

    • Kramerica Industries

      Since he’s a high stockings pitcher, it’s probably the pants were made to be short (thus, not needing to be adjusted up and down), and that’s why they look a bit tighter than usual.

      • Cervelli is the Man

        Wow, wasn’t expecting such a technical reply. Was sort of joking.

        • Kramerica Industries

          Eh. Must’ve flown over my head this time around.

  • Kramerica Industries

    If the Yankees had won the 2001 World Series, it would’ve been payback for losing in 1960 to Pittsburgh despite a 55-27 scoring margin.

    • WhittakerWalt

      I loved watching that ’01 series, apart from the way it ended. But we have to be honest, that Yankees team was borderline mediocre. The lineup certainly was.

      • Kramerica Industries

        The last two games in the Bronx were magical shit.

        Damn, despite their flaws, they had that series in their backpocket. Still one that got away. And it still gnaws to this day.

  • forensic

    Come on Wells! Another run or two would be really nice, maybe even just your second hit with RISP this season.

    • forensic

      Or not at all…

  • Cervelli is the Man

    Liking this little insurance rally here

  • Kramerica Industries

    Vernon Wells is not having a very good night at the plate tonight. Jeez.

  • Cervelli is the Man

    “God Damn” Wells yelled. That’s right, hit this sucker out Vernon.

  • Eddard

    Intentionally walk Ichiro? LOL! Make them pay, Nuney.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Why in gods name would you walk Ichiro? He’s literally the worst hitter on the team right now. That’s a team with Chris Stewart on the Roster.

  • Cy Pettitte

    IBB Ichiro? hahaha

  • The Real Greg

    I know they set up the double play but Ichiro is not hitting right now

  • Cervelli is the Man

    Loading up the bases?

  • SDB

    Why are they confusing Ichiro with a competent hitter right now?

  • forensic

    Come on Nunez!

    That’ll work.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Wow, Nunie put a charge into that ball!

  • Kramerica Industries

    Nunez is a pretty good contact hitter who is very hard to double up.

    IBB’ing Ichiro to get to him just made no sense.

  • Eddard

    Nuney got the job done. Should have taken their chances with Ichiro.

  • The Real Greg

    Nunez takes advantage and gets the job done

  • RetroRob

    Fear the Ichiro!

  • Cervelli is the Man

    I’ll take it

  • Eddard

    The difference in the game right now are the decisions to pitch to Robbie Cano and walk Ichiro. Who knows what would have happened had they taken the opposite course but those were two strange managerial decisions.

  • vicki

    kirk gibson, you crazy.

  • forensic

    Brenly going on about how IBB’ing Ichiro was a no-brainer there. His small sample numbers against Ziegler were great, but you’re trying to set up a DP with a really fast runner coming up.

    I think you just play the IF in again and try for another groundout from Ichiro the way he’s going right now.

  • Cervelli is the Man

    Sounds like Dolph Ziggler is pitching when they say his name.

    • Dalek Jeter

      +1000

  • RetroRob

    Any update on Romine’s injury yesterday?

  • forensic

    Oh good, and now an interview with Luis Gonzalez. They’ve been on that World Series all damn game…

    • RetroRob

      Steroids allowed him to punch that ball of Jeter’s head.

    • Kramerica Industries

      Certainly, you didn’t expect anything different.

    • Havok9120

      Surely you were expecting that?

      • forensic

        Well, to you and Kramerica, it’s been a dozen years. I guess I had false hope that they would’ve moved on a little bit, but I guess they don’t really have anything to move on to.

  • RetroRob

    over

  • YankeesJunkie

    Looks like another typical inning from Robertson

    • Havok9120

      He didn’t put enough men on.

      • YankeesJunkie

        Nor strike anyone out! I demand a refund.

  • The Real Greg

    Hinske swinging 3-0?

  • Robinson Tilapia

    So what have I missed so far? Did we all survive “Sweet Caroline?” How many symbolic gestures can be fit into one Yankee game? Did Jackie Robinson roll in his grave when he figured out Boone Logan was wearing his number? So much to know.

  • Cervelli is the Man

    Just switched over to the Mets real quick, wow they are freezing their asses off in Colorado!

  • Robinson Tilapia

    Anyone having trouble with YES HD on TWCNYC?

  • Kramerica Industries

    Let’s nail this shit down, Mo.

  • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (Formerly RRR)

    This is random, but Kramerica mentioned the 60′ WS so it made me think of it.

    Two baseball myths that need to die:

    1) Not starting Whitey Ford in the 60′ WS was a horrible managerial decision. Numbers wise it made perfect sense and was at least an extremely defensible move.

    2) We’ll never know how good Ruth would have been since he never played black players. Untrue. In fact, Ruth played black players quite often-he used to go barnstorming in the offseason. And he’d crush black pitchers just as easily as he crushed white pitchers. Ruth was the real deal.

    People love to pull up that myth when discussing steroids-“Okay, he used steroids. Well, Ruth never played black players, so we don’t know how good HE would have been either!” Sorry, untrue.

    • Pat D

      As to point #1, the move wasn’t really that defensible. Whitey could have only pitched in Yankee Stadium once, no matter which game he started. By being saved till Game 3, Casey limited himself to Whitey pitching twice instead of three times.

      Go read Rob Neyer’s Big Book of Baseball Blunders. He dissects this pretty decisively.

      • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (Formerly RRR)

        Read “The Truth About Ruth”, he makes a pretty good defense of the move. I’d grab it now and throw out some stuff in it at you, but I’m feeling too lazy right now.

        • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (Formerly RRR)

          Fuck it, I just grabbed the book.

          First off the author, Handrinos, points out that Pittsburgh was a better team than they seemed, with a higher BA and lower ERA than the Yanks despite playing in the way tougher league, for what it’s worth.

          Anyway, Stengel was basing the starting assignments on 1960, not the past. Ditmar had a (slightly) lower ERA and pitched more innings. In September he had pitched to a significantly lower ERA than Ford despite pitching more innings.

          Think he should have picked ford because he was a proven postseason pitcher? Not so fast. Sure, this was true in Yankee Stadium. But in 5 road postseason starts he was 0 and 3 with an ERA over 6. Ditmar, meanwhile, was no postseason slouch himself, having pitched terrifically in the 57′ and 58′ WS.

          Sure, Stengel held Ford to two starts instead of three. But he also ensured that if the series went to 7 games Ford would only need to work in the pitcher unfriendly Forbes Field for one month, not two.

          The big reason we question the decision is that Ford was terrific and Ditmar wasn’t. 20/20 hindsight.

    • RetroRob

      Casey’s use of Whitey throughout his career has been documented, and it is true that Casey held Ford back to face the better teams. How he used him in the 1960 World Series did turn out to be a blunder.

      You’re correct on Ruth. He barnstormed regularly playing black players and teams. I forget the exact quote, but one of the top black players basically said they couldn’t figure out how to get Ruth out. He was a transformational hitter the likes of which the Major Leagues and the Negro Leagues had never seen.

      • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (Formerly RRR)

        Judy Johnson was the player. Hall of famer.

    • vicki

      sorry, but i’ll never consider completely legitimate statistics compiled in an era when many of the game’s best players weren’t allowed in the league. your straw man argument about the babe’s reported performance in exhibition games doesn’t make it better. sounds like backlash.

      • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (Formerly RRR)

        He played them all the time. It’s not backlash, it’s just true. In fact, the games mattered very much to the black pitchers, who wanted to prove that they could take down Ruth. His numbers against the Negro league teams were fantastic.

        Sorry, but Ruth could hit the negro pitchers.

        • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (Formerly RRR)

          If you don’t believe me, look at the stats of the Negro Leaguers against other white hitters. Judy Johnson, a Negro League Hall of Famer, also dismissed the idea that Ruth couldn’t hit Negro Leaguers, saying that “We could never seem to get him out, no matter what we did”.

  • forensic

    Yikes. The side strikes out against Heath Bell? That could stay in contention for worst half inning all season.

  • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (Formerly RRR)

    …Also, “Sweet Caroline” is a great song. I’m not going to let the fucking Red Sox take that away from me.

    • Pat D

      Yea, but it’s not Neil Diamond’s best song.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Brooklyn Roads, Shiloh, Kentucky Woman, Two-Bit Manchild…..lots of good early stuff.

        • Pat D

          Brother Love’s Traveling Salvation Show!

          • Robinson Tilapia

            Another one.

      • vicki

        cracklin’ rose.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      I love early Neil. That song’s been completely ruined for me, though.

    • VT Yankee Fan

      It’s about a grown man’s infatuation with a 14 year old girl.

      • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (Formerly RRR)

        A lot of great songs have weird and disturbing lyrics. The Police’s “Every Step You Take” comes to mind.

        • Rooting for U.S. Steel

          Heh. Listen to the end of Screamin’ Jay Hawkins’ “I Put A Spell on You”. If that isn’t a stalker anthem, I don’t know what is.

      • RetroRob
  • Robinson Tilapia

    That “James” video thing was hilarious.

    Finally, an actual #42.

  • WhittakerWalt

    “Bell’s velocity is down. He used to throw 95, 96, 97. Of course here he strikes out Chris Stewart on a 92mph meatball.”

  • Get Phelps Up

    With me just getting in for the 9th inning, how did Nova look?

    • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (Formerly RRR)

      Not great location, but his movement wasn’t bad and he ground it out for five innings and two runs. It definitely could have been way worse. On the other hand, it would have been nice if he could have pushed himself through one more inning. Oh well.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Pretty much. Was paying half-attention on a bar TV screen. Didn’t look impressive, but got by five and the damage wasn’t what it could be the one inning.

        In other words, you’ll be hearing a shitload from Eddard throughout the day tomorrow.

    • Bo Knows

      Went 5 innings, 7 hits, 2 bbs, with 6 k’s

      he was shakey but battled, had a really rough 3rd inning where he threw 30 pitches and that’s when the two runs scored.

      he was ok, not good not bad just meh

    • Get Phelps Up

      Thanks guys.

  • Pat D

    Sleep with one eye open…

  • Pat D

    And……time to celebrate!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzMURyGo_9s

    • Cervelli is the Man

      +1000

  • Robinson Tilapia

    Why retire? Just pitch forever.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Mo making it look as easy as he usually does.

    Well done. Make it three in a row tomorrow night.

  • forensic

    Nice win!

    An important one too considering it was in a Nova start and they’re facing a bunch of lefties coming up too.

  • Get Phelps Up

    4-2 win saved by #42 on a day where everyone is wearing 42. Baseball!

    • The Real Greg

      Just noticed the score. You can’t make that up.

      • Roadgeek Adam

        Too bad it wasn’t save No. 642, damned ACL.

  • Eddard

    Great win. With the big man on the mound tomorrow against an NL lineup we have a good chance to take the series. Even with Hughes and Nova pitching in the same series we have a chance to win it with our ace on the mound. 2 games above .500, not bad for a team nobody expected to do anything this month.

  • forensic

    So, Boston put 7 run up against Ubaldo in one inning, thanks to a ton of walks.

    But that’s all they’ve scored and they’ve struck out 16 (!) times in the game.

    • WhittakerWalt

      What the hell happened to Ubaldo? Didn’t he used to be great?