Game Six: Avoid the Sweep

(AP Photo/Carlos Osorio)

(AP Photo/Carlos Osorio)

The Yankees haven’t had much of a chance these last two games against the Tigers because of their pitching, the bullpen in particular. If they want to avoid the sweep this afternoon they’ll have to find a way to beat Justin Verlander, pretty much the best right-handed hitter on the planet. They’re going to need good pitching and good hitting, something they’ve been unable to do in the same game yet this year. If that streak of 13 consecutive games* with four or fewer runs — dating back to Game One of the ALDS — is going to come to an end, they’ll have to earn it. Here is the starting nine…

  1. CF Brett Gardner
  2. 2B Robinson Cano
  3. 3B Kevin Youkilis
  4. DH Travis Hafner
  5. LF Vernon Wells
  6. RF Ichiro Suzuki
  7. C Frankie Cervelli
  8. 1B Lyle Overbay
  9. SS Jayson Nix

And on the mound is the 2007 AL Cy Young Award winner, CC Sabathia.

This afternoon’s game is scheduled to start a little after 1pm ET, but the Tigers are holding a ceremony to honor Mariano Rivera, so first pitch may be delayed a bit. They’re apparently giving him something “Michigan-flavored.” Not sure what that means. Anyway, the game will be on YES. Enjoy.

Eduardo Nunez Update: Nunez (biceps) tried to hit and play catch today, but he’s still in pain and can’t do it. He’s not available to do anything more than pinch-run.

Hiroki Kuroda Update: Kuroda (finger) came through his bullpen session a few days ago just fine and he played catch today. He will indeed start against the Indians tomorrow as scheduled.

* The last time the Yankees started the season by scoring four or fewer runs in five straight games was 2008, when they did it in six straight. Last year they didn’t have their fifth game of four or fewer runs until April 25th, the 18th game of the season.

Categories : Game Threads


  1. Dalek Jeter says:

    At least it’s not “Detroit flavored,” otherwise I’d be wary of a stabbing and a shitty car.

  2. floyd says:

    what good does ichiro do us batting anywhere but the top of the order i’m starting to hate girardi

    • Dalek Jeter says:

      Yes, because a guy who has an OBP of .325 since 2010 definitely deserves to be at the top of the order.

      • Dalek Jeter says:

        Don’t get me wrong, anger at Joe is somewhat warranted, leaving Eppely in too long, letting Logan face Fielder again and again, not having a second lefty in the bullpen, but not putting Ichiro at the top of the order? Thank heavens he’s not, I want Ichiro to have 3 AB’s a game, maybe 4. But to want him to get 4-6 instead of some of the players who are actually hitting the ball? Insanity.

        • jjyank says:

          I agree. I like that Girardi is showing some flexibility with regards to Ichiro. When they signed him, I was afraid he’d be hitting first or second all season without any regard to his performance.

          If Ichiro of the last ~6 weeks of 2012 shows up, by all means. But I’m glad it’s not a blind guarantee that he is at the top of the order.

      • trr says:

        the 1-2 spots in the lineup have been awful no matter who’s hitting there

  3. Eddard says:

    At least Cervelli is in there for the 2nd day in a row. He’s not completely worthless like Stewart and Nix. Those 1-2 hitters have to drive the run scoring. They’re to blame, not Wells or Hafner or Overbay or Youk who are doing as much or more than what was expected of them. And CC needs to dominate. With CC, Kuroda and Andy lined up in a row there’s no reason why they can’t get back to .500.

    • Slu says:

      Not that they have any other options, but I agree, Nix is awful. Especially at short.

    • LarryM Fl says:

      The team has to evolve and so does the mgr. As he learns where the pieces to the puzzle go. I’m glad that Cervelli will start to be penciled in more frequently.

      My attitude is fine. I’m prepared for some Yankee baseball that has not been view in some time.

      Maybe today we’ll get a few bounces our way. It seems that the four losses have been aided by some fortunate bounces for the Sox’s and Tigers. I do not include the bounces that land
      in the seats but the fortunate ones that dribble in the infield and become unplayable.

      • Betty Lizard says:

        LarryM, if the FL is for Florida, I’m looking for some info about St Pete.

        • LarryM Fl says:

          Betty: Yes, I live in Sarasota about 45 miles from St. Pete.

          • Betty Lizard says:

            Larry you may not see this but if not I know you usually post in the confidence poll thread. I’m interested in any information which might be useful for my daughter, who is moving to St Pete and will be looking for work.

            • LarryM Fl says:

              I’m retired and live in Sarasota but the fields that seem to do well are IT, health and education. By well I mean there seems to be job offerings for qualified workers. She is a short distance from Tampa where jobs may be more prevalent in all occupations. The commutes down in Florida especially west coast are a breeze. You can go further in a half hour then you can in New York. So, living in St. Pete. can make her available for work from Tampa to Sarasota within easy commutes. But it all depends on the field.

              • Betty Lizard says:

                Thanks. She has accounting, bookstore manager, customer service experience and was in fine dining for a bunch of years, wait-person and then manager of a high end restaurant. She just wants to be by the ocean. Oh, and see baseball . . .

                • LarryM Fl says:

                  Betty: With her work experience she should find something that meets her needs in any of three cities mentioned. There are good parts of St. Pete and some lousy parts of St. Pete so be careful of the location of the habitation. The service industry is big down here. The Ritz Carlton in Sarasota has a huge hotel. The possibilities are here just have to hunt them down.

  4. Pat D says:

    Verlander is the best right-handed hitter on the planet? When did he become Steve Nebraska?

  5. Pat D says:

    I do kind of like that other teams are engaging in a Mariano Rivera farewell tour. It’s probably out of a combination of respect and thankfulness that they won’t have to face him again after this year.

    • jjyank says:

      It’s classy, I like it. Regardless of their motivations, it’s not often people get to witness the best player at a given position. I’m glad other teams and fans can recognize that.

  6. Eddard says:

    And this business of overturning bad calls either has to be ALL or nothing. You can’t pick and choose which calls to overturn to suit your needs. Remember last postseason when Robbie Cano was called out at 2nd when he was clearly safe? Not overturned. Or when Mark Teixera was called out when he slid into 1st in a critical divisional ballgame with the Os. Or just get video replay for close calls on the bases and be done with it.

    • Preston says:

      The head ump always has the ability to overturn the call, but he can only do so if he sees it and sees it more clearly than the ump who called the play. It doesn’t happen often, but when it does it’s usually the right call (as it was on the Wells play).

      • jjyank says:

        Yeah, and in this case the crew chief had a good angle to make the call.

        Bottom line, we’d all be thanking our lucky stars that the call got over turned if the situation was reversed. It’s silly to complain about the umpires making a correct call.

    • Dalek Jeter says:


    • SDB says:

      Agreed. I was pissed over the Jerry Meals call on Tex in Baltimore, but figured – mistakes do happen in a lot of games. Tough shit. When some of them get reversed, and others don’t, completely randomly, it’s ridiculous.

  7. trr says:

    the title of the thread says it all.
    Good Luck!

  8. forensic says:

    Was Girardi fired overnight and I missed it?

    Looks like he accidentally misspelled ‘Stewart’.

    • Havok9120 says:


    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

      Didn’t Cervelli catch CC the first time as well?

      I seriously doubt there was ever going to be a straight every other game plan. More likely, they’ll eventually settle primarily into catching the same pitchers.

  9. sangreal says:

    I love how the pregame show went into detail with actual, you know, facts about CC’s opening day velocity based on data from Brooks. Yet Flash and Kay immediately start the broadcast by pushing Joe’s storyline that his velocity is always this low in April. According to the pregame, his velocity topped out at 94 on opening day last year, and dropped to a high of 91 this year.

  10. Dalek Jeter says:

    Hi, my name is Jeff, and I hate John Sterling.

  11. Eddard says:

    You see who the problem is here, not Youk, it’s Gardner and Cano. Get on base!

  12. Kramerica Industries says:

    On the bright side, Youk has been absolutely mashing so far this season.

    • jjyank says:

      Yup. Really wish Cano would click in front of him. That’d go a real long way toward the offensive issues.

  13. Get Phelps Up says:

    Youk has really impressed in the early going.

  14. Chilango says:

    Two meatballs in a row from Verlander. Wow.

  15. Hans Moleman says:

    Goddaamn it! Fuck!

  16. Havok9120 says:

    What the heck are they jawing about? 0_o

    Calm down gentlemen.

  17. mannycruz says:

    I’m starting to REALLLY like youk!

  18. Get Phelps Up says:

    Wow RA Dickey getting manhandled by Boston. 5-0 and still nobody out.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      Welcome to the AL East.

      For all the graverolling talk that goes on here, he’s probably at the top of my list of “who would Papa Bear have traded Gary Sanchez and Tyler Austin for?”

  19. Slime says:

    Put the DR on the sleeve of Cano maybe he’ll do something productive

  20. Bo Knows says:

    Joba shaved that God-forsaken porno-stache

  21. Stratman9652 says:

    I’ll admit the Tigers scare the shit out of me. Every at bat is a friggin nail biter with their lineup.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      They’re damn good, and it kills me to watch them succeed with Fielder and Cabrera actually playing those corner infield slots. It just goes against everything I like about watching infielders play.

  22. Robinson Tilapia says:

    The formal Danimal suspended 50 games for PEDs?

  23. Robinson Tilapia says:

    This is Francisco Cervelli’s world. The rest of us just payin’ rent.

  24. Get Phelps Up says:


  25. Havok9120 says:


  26. Pinkie Pie says:

    Francisco Cervelli is a stahtin’ catcha

  27. Stratman9652 says:

    When Francisco Cervelli is one of your biggest offensive threats, something is wrong.

  28. jjyank says:


  29. Mykey says:

    Precisely why I’m on the Frankie over Stewart bandwagon. (That exists, right?)

    That and being part Venezuelan.

  30. Yankonymous says:

    I was just saying, I hope Ichiro doesn’t run and take the bat out of Cervelli’s hands.

  31. Mike HC says:

    Pineda can’t even get on the injury report? Damn, if he isn’t the forgotten man.

  32. Dalek Jeter says:


  33. Mike HC says:

    Nix! Cervelli! Off Verlander? What is going on?

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      That’s why we actually have to wait until they play the games.

      Loving this. Hoping for a lack of “April CC moments” today.

  34. Hans Moleman says:

    Verlander is killing my fantasy team and I love it.

  35. Eddard says:

    A couple of professional hitters have given us the lead!

  36. Robinson Tilapia says:

    “Hey Slu, suck my nuts.”

    Jayson Nix

  37. flamingo says:

    Man, I love when they hit Verlander.

  38. Havok9120 says:

    And now Nix is pitching in.


  39. Slime says:

    In nix we trust

  40. Pinkie Pie says:

    Nix’s first hit of the season is a line drive homerun off Justin Verlander.

    Well, played.

  41. hogsmog says:


  42. Get Phelps Up says:

    Nix and Cervelli folks.

  43. jjyank says:

    Jason Fucking Nix. Wouldn’t have predicted the Yankees up 3-0 in the second inning against Verlander thanks to Cervelli and Nix, that’s for sure.

  44. Bo Knows says:

    Wow, I did not expect that

    Also no TBS announcer 85 isn’t an average fastball for most pitchers, that is a changeup for most pitchers

    90-91 mph is a fb for most pitchers

  45. Mike HC says:

    Nix is hitting homers. Cabrera is making nifty plays in the field to throw out Gardner. Anarchy!

  46. Chilango says:

    Verlander musta got a call from Tony Soprano

  47. Dalek Jeter says:

    This inning has given us the first YCPB Suzyn of the season. At least to my knowledge.

  48. jjyank says:

    Do you guys think there are some guys on a Tigers blog somewhere screaming “Verlander isn’t a true ace! He’s giving up bombs to the third string short stop!!”?

  49. Mykey says:

    It’s really hard for me to stay mad at a guy with an arbitrary “y” in his name. Atta boy Jayson.

  50. Anderson Silva says:

    that was a nice inning!

  51. Leg-End says:

    Nix is a ball player and a real human being.

  52. TomH says:

    The Yanks are playing their 6th game. My damned cable provider has provided, via “Extra Innings,” only 1 YES feed. There must be a better way.

    • sangreal says:

      Of course there is… mlb.tv assuming you’re out of market

      • TomH says:

        I guess I would just plug the laptop into the HD tv, get an MLB account, and it would come in as HD reception. I’m in Canada, so all Jays games would be blacked out.

        • jjyank says:

          Sure, but then you could just watch the Jays feed on cable, right? I’m in DC, so I’m blacked out of Orioles games, but I just watch MASN instead.

        • sangreal says:

          Yeah, that will work. You can also use a PS3, Xbox 360, Roku, etc. if you have one

        • forensic says:

          Able to get DirecTV there? I love it!

          • forensic says:

            But yeah, you’ll have blackouts, but you’ll have that anywhere as there is always a ‘home territory’. Those of us out west are blacked out of at least 5 teams territories. Be happy you’ll only have 1.

        • TomH says:

          Thanks very much guys. I’ll look into these.

  53. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Didn’t want this to go unnoticed. I read the shitshow that followed one of my comments on the game recap thread last night. One of the replies came from dalelama, who had a golden opportunity to flame me…..and he didn’t. He was actually sort of complimentary.

    To that I give an honest “thank you.”

  54. flamingo says:

    Can’t decide if it’s the change or if the changes to Gameday are really terrible…

  55. Dalek Jeter says:

    I can’t help but laugh every time they say Tuiasosopo’s name. God damn you Jon Stewart.

  56. Anderson Silva says:

    those 90mph flat fastballs in the middle of the plate are concerning

  57. jjyank says:

    Hurray for shut down innings.

  58. Dalek Jeter says:

    Btw, if anybody’s interested, Sterling’s call is “Hasten Jayson!” Super lame, especially considering the hard on the radio booth has for Nix.

  59. The Oberamtmann says:

    Anyone know what the Tigers gave Mariano?

  60. forensic says:

    Little late, but, see Girardi what happens when you stick to a catcher who can actually hit?

    And who stole the #17 uniform this morning?!?!

  61. Anthony says:

    If Youk and Hafner keep it up, and Grandy, Tex and Jete all make it back okay this is easily an above average lineup.

  62. Winter says:

    Vernon Wells was not happy.

  63. forensic says:

    I can’t believe I agree with Flaherty. Something just doesn’t look right about Cano in the #2 spot. I’m sure it’d seem different if he’d hit something, but it just isn’t right currently. I also never agreed with the ‘put your best hitter #2 thing’.

    • JLC 776 says:

      Something just doesn’t look right about Cano…

    • jjyank says:

      I’m still reserving judgement on whether or not Cano should be there given the current roster, but I do agree in theory about the #2 hitter thing. Ideally, I’d like to see the best hitter 3rd with an extra table setter in front of him.

    • Havok9120 says:

      He just looks bad at the plate in general.

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        I can’t believe I’m agreeing with Flaherty either, but he sounded pretty spot on with his analysis of Cano right now.

        These things happen. He doesn’t a DR patch on his uniform to hit better, or whatever bullshit folks are insinuating on here. He just needs to get back to where he needs to be. And he will.

    • Preston says:

      Yeah, I think that our optimal lineup right now has Gardner, Wells, Cano, Youk, Hafner at the top. I know it’s small sample but I think Vernon’s earned it thus far.

      • forensic says:

        Ideally, Ichiro would remember how to hit or Nunez would be able to come back and bat 2nd, in my opinion.

  64. forensic says:

    That’s an Ichiro homerun at home.

    Too bad they’re not at home…

  65. Chilango says:

    I’m watching a Japanese feed. What is CC’s velocity today? His fastball seems flat.

    • forensic says:

      I’m watching a Japanese feed.

      Well, that’s a new one on me…

      • jjyank says:

        I wasn’t aware that there was one. Is this a new thing with Ichiro being on the team? Serious question.

        • Chilango says:

          I’m watching the game on my computer..I live in Peru.

          • forensic says:

            No Spanish language channel? Or do you speak Japanese better than Spanish?

            • forensic says:

              Sorry if too much detail, it’s just interesting. Especially after reading Friday’s chat with people asking about how far away people check in from.

        • Stratman9652 says:

          I stumbled across a stream of some Japanese channel simulcasting the YES feed. It was kind of like Inception. But yeah I’m betting Ichiro has something to do with it. That and the fact that the Yankees are the big team over there.

    • JRod says:

      CC’s fastball seems to be stuck at 90-91.

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        Other pitches seem to be working better, and that’s why the score is where it is.

        It happens every year. We all (really) wish it didn’t, but it does.

        • Chilango says:

          On Opening Day in 2012, his fastball hit 94.5 mph. On Opening Day in 2011, his fastball touched 94.7 mph.

          • Robinson Tilapia says:

            ….aaaaaaand I guess I’m completely fucking wrong then. :)

            “But you usually are” says about 15 guys who’ll show up if the Tigers take the lead.

  66. forensic says:

    Nice catch Wells!

  67. Pat D says:

    I want to run this past other people. A FB friend of mine posted a comment that he was glad his grandkids (yes, he has grandkids even though he’s only in his early 40′s) were “rocking out” to Limp Bizkit, Metallica and Kid Rock and satisfied they were listening to “good music.”

    So it was appropriate for me to make fun of that comment, right?

    • jjyank says:

      I’m not sure Metallica belongs with the other two, but yes. Limp Bizkit got crap even when they were still famous. I wasn’t even aware they still made music.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      I mean, it really doesn’t even matter WHAT Metallica album it was since it’s cancelled out by the other two pillars of suckdom.

      Yes, you are entitled to eviscerate them.

    • Betty Lizard says:


    • Dalek Jeter says:

      Yes. Also explain to him that anything by Metallica before 1992 doesn’t belong with the other two.

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        I like “Death Magnetic.” I hate the odds and ends EP that came after it, but I thought the album itself was a great return to form.

        “Load” and “Garage Inc” had their moments. There was a good album hidden in the otherwise-shitdom that was “St. Anger.” The movie was great, though.

        I don’t know if anyone got to hear the Lou Reed/Metallica album which came out last year, but dear lord…

        • Pat D says:

          My opinion on Metallica is that they’ve had a couple of decent songs, but otherwise suck. I mean, I heard them do their own versions of “The Imperial March” from The Empire Strikes Back and “The Ecstasy of Gold” from The Good, the Bad and the Ugly and they did something I didn’t think could be done with those pieces of music: they made them excruciatingly boring. And I still haven’t forgiven them for Napster.

          • Robinson Tilapia says:

            First four albums (and the EPs in the middle) have a special place in my heart for life.

            I respect and appreciate the “Black Album,” but it was a very different band at that point.

            It was hit-and-miss for years afterwards.

            Overall, though? They changed a hell of a lot musical lives, including mine.

        • Dalek Jeter says:

          I completely forgot about Death Magnetic. It’s not terrible, but it’s also not Master of Puppets.

  68. Anthony says:

    Nice catch Vernon

  69. Pat D says:

    Albert William Kaline.

    • Pat D says:

      And looking at BRef, just going by WAR, Kaline was more deserving than the guys who won it those years, but still not the most deserving of the award in either.

      Funny old world.

  70. forensic says:

    Looks very interested in the game…

  71. Dalek Jeter says:

    Sweet, on top of the game going well so far, it looks like Matt Carpenter will finally be getting 2B eligibility next week. jj, giving you the heads-up, once Headley comes back I’m gonna be looking to move Seager/Carpenter/Scutaro. Any of those 3 enough to get me Swish/Werth straight up?

    • jjyank says:

      Not unless I have an injury. Swish and Werth are both in my UTIL slots, so position doesn’t mean jack for that. Those spots are purely for the best bat.

      And as far as depth goes, trading Werth for one of those guys is just essentially trading my back up CF for a back up 3B. Seems like a lateral move for me at best. Swish is more available position wise, but he’s still my emergency 1B option if Anthony Rizzo shits the bed.

  72. forensic says:

    Must say, I’m still loving the AL RA Dickey (as predicted by some of us, though not quite to this level).

    And no, I have no problem rooting for the Red Sox in that matchup since the Blue Jays are better odds to be better by the end of the season.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      Yup. All of that.

      I wish Dickey would have just stayed with the Mets and remained a cult hero to so many young stuart a’s.

  73. Pat D says:

    That was a great story. Compelling and rich.

  74. Alkaline says:

    Close play by Nix.

  75. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Nice stop by Nix there.

    Slightly worried about CC getting picked it here and there until the point where he actually starts giving up real hits.

  76. Mykey says:

    Grr. Need to get out of these innings.

  77. Chilango says:

    CC Opening Day 2012 max 94.5 mph. Opening Day 2011, max 94.7 mph. Two starts in a row max 91, struggling in both games.

  78. forensic says:

    Come on CC! Get through the bottom of the order here.

  79. forensic says:

    Too early to use Robertson for 2 innings and Mo for 2 innings each? ;-)

  80. Robinson Tilapia says:

    That was actually a beautiful pitch.

  81. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Whew. I was afraid that would be the one April shit inning.

  82. forensic says:

    Whew… That concerned me for a second right off the bat.

  83. jjyank says:

    Aaaaand exhale.

  84. forensic says:

    Come on Gardner, get on to start the inning off.

  85. YankeesJunkie says:

    Call me crazy, but Yanks need to lock up Gardner on extension which could done at less than 10 mil AAV over four or five years.

    • Mike Axisa says:

      No way. He’s not that young and once his speed goes he’ll be useless. They have him for another year, at which point 31. Perfect time to cut him loose.

    • forensic says:

      I’m a big Gardner fan, but no way you do that. If it turns out you still want him longer after his FA year, then you just do it then. He’s not really going to be the kind of guy to break the bank in FA.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

      I’d actually consider an extension through 2015 or 2016, but with the intention of using him next year and then trading him after that. That scenario probably isn’t worth his injury risk though.

  86. Dalek Jeter says:

    Yesterday Fiensand opened the “Daily News 5th” going on about how terrible Hughes’ pitch count being at 77 was. Today Suzyn asked about CC’s pitch count, and apparently 77 isn’t a problem.

    • Chilango says:

      Maybe because they’re different pitchers. Hughes runs out of gas around 70, whereas CC’s good for 100+

      • Dalek Jeter says:

        Man, I know Hughes isn’t an ace, but people here shit on him far too much. He, Hughes, was a little bit better than league average last year. Is he an ace? No, but he can and did, regularly went 6-8 innings last season and threw 100-110 pitches.

        • forensic says:

          ERA+ was 99, so better than league average is debateable on different numbers.

          He finished 6 innings in just more than half his starts last year. Averaged a touch less than 6 innings per start. That’s not terrible, but it’s also not necessarily regularly.

          • Dalek Jeter says:

            He was also terrible in April. I know you can’t just take away a month of the season, but apart from that month he was very, very good.

            • forensic says:

              Not really though. He was pretty bad in September and even May too. August is arguable with an ok ERA but a bad WHIP.

  87. Mykey says:

    Jesus CC. That’s not what we like to see. (see.)

  88. SDB says:

    Ugh. CC’s getting me worried here.

  89. Jimmy says:

    CC needs to learn from Mo/Andy

    Stop overthrowing. Just hit the damn target.

  90. flamingo says:

    Still a shutout through 5.

  91. jjyank says:

    I’m actually impressed with CC today. He clearly doesn’t have his best stuff, he’s laboring, and Detroit has a pretty damn good lineup. And yet, here we are with 5 shutout innings.

  92. Eddard says:

    Would like see CC go 7 to avoid the middle relief all together. Drob hasn’t been used much so maybe he can go more than an inning today. CC’s got one more in him at least.

  93. forensic says:

    Nice to see the Indians finally show up for half a game in Tampa. Hopefully they can actually finish off that second half of the game too.

  94. forensic says:

    Geez, how did that thing die like that. Seemed like a solid line drive to center, then barely even got to the SS…

  95. Dalek Jeter says:

    Ugh…Sterling is breaking down the breakdown of a Micheal Young AB from last night. It did not take long for me to get sick of these two.

  96. forensic says:

    So, as I talk about Gardner working the count being ok but wanting some results, the rest of the lineup doesn’t even bother doing that and Verlander is in better shape with his pitch count now.

  97. Alkaline says:

    Ugh. Sat Middlebrooks today cause he was like 3-20.

    4-4, 3 hrs.


  98. forensic says:

    Jayson Nix trying to go all Enrique Wilson on Pedro Martinez today…

  99. Pinkie Pie says:

    Brett Gardner can’t bunt for the life of him.

  100. forensic says:

    I know Gardner’s struggling, but he’s never been terrific at sac bunting and I really don’t like the idea of putting right behind Verlander 0-2.

    In the end, maybe not a huge difference in whatever the result will be, but not necessarily a huge fan of the process at the moment.

  101. Mykey says:

    Nice, non-productive at bat/moral victory Gardner! Yay!

  102. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Yay! I stepped away to put away some groceries and work on my side hobby and it’s still a shutout.

    • forensic says:

      Never heard of putting away groceries as a side hobby… :-)

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        Heh heh.

        Actually, they’d been sitting around since this morning. Both my wife and son are working on a……two-hour nap at this point. This is the only reason you’ve even got me on the game thread.

  103. forensic says:

    Geez Cano, that was pitiful…

  104. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Oh Robbie. I look forward to putting this behind us.

  105. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Hey, this little tween can sing.

  106. Athenian says:

    Cano is becoming a pull hitter, rolling over on pitches he should take the other way. Always thought he was like Rod Carew with his swing and style, just not the case.

    • Winter says:

      Hooray for valuing 6 games over 8 years!

      • Athenian says:

        Really? Pathetic response, but useful now that my study of this site has concluded. This response was typical over the past three years of those who seem to feel empowered jumping on either an opinion they disagreed with or felt the need to present their faux intelligence, most likely in hopes of garnering good will from other similar “blog bullies” or with the moderator.

        Essentially, this response was of no greater value than the statements made by those who were consistently demonized for expressing an irrational emotional statement to a pitch or play. However, unlike those statements which took on average no more than three entries before they reach beyond hyperbole, YOUR response continued at every single opportunity by far exceeding the “troll” comments that were a source of constant chatter. Furthermore, it has been proven that YOUR response contained more hateful, spiteful, “trollish” tones than the original statement made. Very fascinating!

        • Robinson Tilapia says:

          Eight words necessitated that?

          I actually agree he was being a bit unfair with you, but goddamn.

          You have good stuff to say when you’re being balanced. You’re no dummy.

          • Athenian says:

            it was all part of a study of sports blogs. I picked this one specifically because I like the Yankees and there is no filter like the Lo Hud blog – which annoyed us after only three weeks because it was more like a Salem witch hunt and lacked any real baseball conversation. Unless, you equate the word Yankees or GIDP as real baseball talk, which is the equivalent of saying “Taco” and thinking one can speak Spanish.

    • forensic says:

      He’s always done that. That’s why he’s always right around 20 GIDP’s a year. He still can go the other way on the line or in the air.

      This is why the shift isn’t a surprise to me and I can’t believe all these announcers that have no idea why they’re doing it against him (not the Tigers obviously, but the Sox and teams in general I’m sure).

      • forensic says:

        Especially when he’s in a slump like he clearly is now.

      • Athenian says:

        It is true, from looking at his spray chart you can see when he is not hitting line drives, he does pull the ball more. Even more interesting is that when he does go the other way and it is not a line drive, the number of outs as a percentage is higher.

        But as I said, I always equated his approach and swing with Rod Carew – which I do need to do a comparison of his career charts with Cano. Sometimes, what the brain remembers is not always in the order it was recorded – thus equating a slumping Cano with a change in his approach.

        • Robinson Tilapia says:

          If you swing like Carew all the time, your ticket to the HOF is pre-written for you.

          Cano’s a great player in his own way, but Carew is Carew.

  107. Anthony says:

    Wow Blue Jays are getting clobbered.

  108. forensic says:

    Ah, that explains it. Speed is Santiago’s only problem. It has nothing to do with things like his .555 OPS last year

  109. JonS says:

    So, not relating to this game, how long before Girardi realizes that Logan is done and his magic is spent?

  110. flamingo says:

    That Knicks win was amazing. Back to Yankees now. CC pitching a great game. If he goes seven with the way he was struggling? Exactly what we needed.

  111. Wheels says:

    Nice job CC.

  112. Get Phelps Up says:

    Very nice, CC.

  113. forensic says:

    Great job CC! At this point, just gotta beg for results and maybe worry about the other stuff next time or later.

  114. Pinkie Pie says:

    I never going to buy a car from Lee’s Toyota. Ever.

  115. jjyank says:

    Awesome, CC.

  116. Eddard says:

    You can win with this lineup when the pitching does what it is capable of doing. If they give up 7-8 runs there’s no chance. CC and Andy did their jobs and that’s why we won their starts. As I said above, with CC, Kuroda and Andy lined up there’s no reason why they can’t get back to .500

    • Get Phelps Up says:

      “If they give up 7-8 runs there’s no chance.”

      That’s true with most teams though.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      It still won’t be as many games as you want it to be until they start scoring more runs.

    • Winter says:

      If the Yankees don’t score again today, they will be averaging 3.50 runs/game. Last year they averaged 4.96. In 2012, the worst team in the majors (in terms of R/G) was the Astros with a 3.60. League average was a 4.30.

      You can’t win consistently only scoring 3-4 runs per game. That’s not how baseball works.

    • Crespo says:

      You trash CC all the time.

  117. Brian Cashman from another dimension says:

    Thank God Joba sat down I thought we were going to end up losing.

  118. Brian Cashman from another dimension says:

    I envy teams with back up pitching depth in the minors.

    • bobtaco says:

      Take a look at what Jose Fernandez did today.

      Everyone with a fantasy team should run to the waive wire and grab him.

      • Winter says:

        I picked him up earlier in the week when I saw he was called up. So happy right now (especially since I’m in desperate need of Ks).

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      What would your other dimension have said last year when they had guys like Ortiz stashed in AA……never mind. I don’t care.

  119. YankeesJunkie says:

    CC did a nice job today with sub par stuff and command. Hopefully, the sharp decrease in velocity is not an omen of worse things.

  120. forensic says:

    Wow, even Minnesota just took the lead over Baltimore. Nice to see all three of those team losing (Jays and Rays too), though the Twins very well could still blow it.

    • Get Phelps Up says:

      I’d really love it if the Orioles first 3 losses were all 1 run games.

      • forensic says:

        Very good point. Just need to throw an extra innings loss or two in there and they’ll be well on their way to what they should be…

  121. Pat D says:

    Glad to see Coke still points on every pop up.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      Remember when he was a nice, svelte church-looking boy for us?

      I hope we tag about eight runs on him.

  122. Chip says:

    How I’ve missed Phil Coke and his pointing at the sky for every single fly ball

  123. forensic says:

    Nice Wells!

    Ok Ichiro. You’re 5-15 career against Coke. At least put up a good AB and get one run home.

    And as I think about it, you have to run for Hafner at 3rd, right? (and as I ask this there goes Nunez)

  124. Preston says:

    I wish we’d PR for Hafner, probably could have scored…

  125. Dalek Jeter says:

    Guuuys I Mariano needs this save for my fantasy team his confidence.

  126. jjyank says:

    Oh fuck that fan. I don’t think Hafner could score from first anyway, but come on. Ball is clearly in play, keep your hands to yourself.

  127. Wheels says:

    That works.

  128. Get Phelps Up says:

    Ichiro might have 2 hrs in Yankee Stadium.

  129. flamingo says:

    I like seeing another team’s bullpen giving up runs for a change.

  130. Eddard says:

    Nuney’s was beaned, battered and bruised the other day and is still willing to do whatever it takes to help the ballclub. Great job by Ichiro putting the ball in play to score Nuney.

  131. Robinson Tilapia says:

    How I know I’m doing a good job: My son wakes from his nap, comes out to the living room, looks at the TV, says, in 20 month-old speak, “Yankees! Wow! Boom!”

  132. flamingo says:

    Never thought I’d say this, but Cervelli should be the starting catcher.

  133. jjyank says:

    Yay situational hitting!

  134. SDB says:

    Frankie! Again!

  135. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    What’s that number on the scoreboard in the Yankee runs column.
    I’m not familiar with that number.

  136. Athenian says:

    Amazing what playing ahead instead of from behind can do for hitters.

  137. forensic says:

    Nice Cervelli!

    I always supported you all offseason. Nice to see you making it look good very early on this season.

    Now if we could only get Girardi to stop sitting you so much. At least today was a step in the right direction.

  138. fabricio says:

    we finally scored more than 4 runs fuck yes!!

  139. YankeesJunkie says:

    First time the Yankees have scored more than fours for the first time in long damn time.

  140. Eddard says:

    I’ve been saying since spring training that Cervelli should start 80% of the games, not 50%. CC pitched better with Cervelli so I don’t think he’ll need Stewart as his personal catcher any longer. Give these kids a chance and they’ll prove themselves.

  141. Govin says:

    Well that was a fun inning. Not to ruin anything but be prepared for some pretty exciting stats from the double A team when Mike puts up the dotf minor leagues news(our something like that)

    • YankeesJunkie says:

      The way I see it, the Yanks are a good team, but not a great team and there needs to be an injection of quality young players. Not necessarily superstars or anything crazy like that, but Montgomery coming up and taking the seventh inning. Or Mesa showing continuing promise. This team is bogged down by the contracts of A-Rod, the quick(er) deterioration of Texeira, and a looming hole at SS. The Yankees are at the end with the resiliency of players such as Rivera and Pettitte and the 2014-16 season don’t look very hot at this point.

  142. JonS says:

    How long until the Yankees pick up another scrap heap catcher and DFA Stewart?

    • Winter says:

      Not going to happen. Stewart may be bad (ok, really bad), but he’s still better than anyone you’re going to pick up of the scrap heap.

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        I agree there’s another lower rock layer of catcher out there (The Kelly Stinnett level.) Stewart’s doing a damn good imitation of that right now, though.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

      It won’t happen. They love his defense.
      Most likely the only was Stewart gets DFA’d is if/when they think Romine is ready and a better option.

  143. Jimmy says:

    Throw your fucking out pitch jesus christ.

  144. Bo Knows says:

    WHy the fuck did they not throw the damn curve?

  145. Wheels says:

    Prince Fielder is a slob.

  146. forensic says:

    And with that AB, Cabrera has come to bat 13 times this series, but only twice with the bases empty. That’s not a good way to try to attack him consistently.

  147. whozat says:

    If runs didn’t count double in the ninth inning, I could see how you could argue that Mo should be pitching this inning. But they do, so it’s good that the lesser pitcher is facing Hunter/Cabrera/Fielder/VMart.

    • YankeesJunkie says:

      True, but Robertson has been an elite reliever the last year and half.

      • whozat says:

        Yes, I know. It’s not that I don’t think Robertson can handle it, it’s just that this inning is the exemplar of why dedicated closers are stupid.

        • YankeesJunkie says:

          True, also the stupidity of 1 inning relievers. All relievers should be able to go 2 especially after having a day off.

    • whozat says:

      Gotta save Mo for Tuiasosopo and Brayan Pena, right?

    • Dalek Jeter says:

      +1 This is why the position of closer and the save stat are a little silly. If this were a 3 run game I would think that Robertson’s job was more stressful than Mariano’s.

      • whozat says:

        I think it would be anyway :-) Nobody likes to give up runs, and facing the guys due up in the 8th is probably harder than the guys who (we hope) will be up in the 9th no matter what.

  148. Eddard says:

    So Prince showed on multiple pitches that he couldn’t hit the curve and you throw him a fastball right down the middle with 2 strikes. Brilliant.

    • Winter says:

      Prince Fielder is a professional hitter. A very good one at that. It’s very dangerous to throw him the same pitch three times in a row. And remember, while Robertson has a great curveball, his fastball isn’t half bad.

    • whozat says:

      It’s not like he hit it well, kind of a looping popup. He made crappy contact, but muscled it out into CF…what’re you gonna do?

  149. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Enjoy the rest of the game (and hopeful WIN.) Off to the zoo.

  150. Get Phelps Up says:

    Let Joba try to fix himself in the bottom of the 9th against the 7-8-9 hitters?

    • jjyank says:

      Probably a good idea. Not much to lose, and Mo is still there if he gets into any real trouble. The Yankee bullpen is gonna need Joba to find his groove at some point.

    • forensic says:

      Eh, I see where you’re coming from, but he just threw over 20 pitches yesterday and the last thing they need to do is put a couple of runners on base and then have Mo need to get out of that.

      At this point, just get the win when you can.

      He’ll have another chance in Cleveland, which I’m sure is his favorite place to pitch.

      • forensic says:

        Unless they put another couple runs on the board here. Then it’d be fine.

      • jjyank says:

        True. Although they did have Joba warming up earlier, so he’s been deemed available.

        Looks like it’s gonna be Mo though, so kind of a moot discussion now.

  151. jjyank says:

    Classic Houdini.

  152. The Doctor says:

    Robertson’s refusal to throw the curve with 2 strikes will never cease to puzzle me. Don’t get me wrong, it works way more often than not, as it just did, and putting men on and wiggling out is sort of his thing, but I feel that he could dominate much more easily if he’d just throw the curve.

  153. Mykey says:

    I’m Jayson Nix and I’m unstoppable!

  154. nsalem says:

    The Pittsburgh Pirates catcher is presently hitless after 17PA’s

  155. forensic says:

    Cano makes me sad.

  156. Pinkie Pie says:

    Crafty baserunning by Gardner.

  157. JRod says:

    Where’s that dude that was ranting with massive disgruntlement & saying how pathetic it was that the Yankees have to start Nix? I hear crickets.

    • Govin says:

      Don’t worry he’ll be back once Nix goes hitless for a game.

      • JRod says:

        Good point. True Yankees fans re-evaluate players every AB, even every pitch, so they can calibrate and chart their precise level of disgruntlement in real time.

    • Mykey says:

      Don’t believe you were referring to me but I have undoubtedly had those thoughts before, and likely still will.

      Good for him though. Great performance today.

  158. YankeesJunkie says:

    Nice job by Gardner!

  159. forensic says:

    Yeah Youk!!!

    Now I could deal with a Joba sighting.

  160. flamingo says:


  161. Dalek Jeter says:

    I’m finding it harder and harder to not root for Youk.

  162. SDB says:


    For the first time I don’t feel dirty yelling that in front of my TV.

  163. Pinkie Pie says:

    God I hated Youkilis when he was a Red Sock. But as a Yankee I already love him.

  164. Wil Nieves #1 Fan says:

    I like Kevin.

  165. Stan says:

    Its so nice to have a clutch hitter on the team. But but swisher walks.

  166. Dalek Jeter says:

    Today I had a chance to overtake IP, K’s, and Wins on my fantasy team.
    My opponent had Dickey and Hamels going, and both got tagged. And I had Gallardo, Hammels, and Cueto going. They combined for 18.2 IP and a 5.40 ERA…

    • jjyank says:

      Hah. I feel ya, I had Price going with a chance to over take ERA, and tie in wins and quality starts. Alas.

      Looks like my boy Steve-o is gonna end up spanking you :P

      However, I finally took the lead in my game thanks to Carlos Santana going 5-5 with a homer!

      • Dalek Jeter says:

        It looks like the final score is going to 9-5, I just tied wins and Mo’s inning here will tie me in innings.

        • jjyank says:

          True, that’s not so bad. You just gotta hope that Nathan doesn’t pitch for Texas later tonight then.

          • Dalek Jeter says:

            I’m hoping he won’t need to because Hamilton breaks out of his slump tonight and goes 5-5 w/ a couple of Homers and 10 RBI just so I see a light at the end of his .050/.208/.050 tunnel.

  167. Govin says:

    Youk has found the secret to making a seamless move from the Red Sox to the Yankees. Hit the cover of the ball. When that happens Yankee fans can be very forgiving.

  168. Pseudoyanks says:

    Leave Cleveland at .500 and I’ll be grinning ear-to-ear !

  169. Pinkie Pie says:

    Ichiro…..why u no hit basabooru?

  170. JRod says:

    7 runs !?! We are straight up FEASTING on Tiger this afternoon.

  171. forensic says:

    Mo is going to have a lot of dirt by the end of the year. Hope he likes gardening…

  172. flamingo says:

    I want to keep a broken bat count this season.

  173. Pinkie Pie says:

    Ahhhhh, a good ol’ shattered bat courtesy of Mariano.

  174. Pinkie Pie says:

    Some pretty cheap ass hits.

  175. Dalek Jeter says:

    Damnit Mo. Can’t have a quiet 1-2-3 Inning?

  176. Mick taylor says:

    Why is Mariano pitching in 7-0 game. Why not save him in case you need him tomorrow .

  177. forensic says:

    Whew, thank you Gardner.

    Really gotta enjoy this stuff now, since that’s played off the wall in a month or two.

  178. Jimmy says:

    Great win today fellas.

  179. Get Phelps Up says:

    So Verlander, Price and Dickey lose today by a combined score of 33-0.
    Baseball is fun.

  180. flamingo says:


  181. forensic says:

    Very nice! Good all-around win.

    Hopefully they carry some of this into Cleveland next.

  182. Pseudoyanks says:

    Mo finishes off Motown for the last time.

  183. Govin says:

    13 hits 7 runs with no runs allowed. Sounds pretty good to me.

  184. Pinkie Pie says:

    Series status: Salvaged

  185. nycsportzfan says:

    Cervelli once again prooves why he should of been the backup catcher last yr and easy starter coming into this season.. The funny part is we actually went outta are way to not let Cervelli have a job.. Not to mention, the dudes looked very accurate throwing baserunners out..Some actually did think his energy and bat were worth hang on the bigclub… Hes having the last laugh now, thats for sure..

    Not that its anything new, hes hit, and hit in the clutch since day 1.. Hes always brought energy and speed(for a catcher) as well.. Also, Youk is beasting.. I was very fond of the signing when it ahppened on here, despite people acting like i was overreacted and bringing up his past couple yrs numbres, like he was healthy or something..lol

    Awesome win! PRONK FOR PRESIDENT!

    • Havok9120 says:

      He was a total wreck defensively before he went down and overhauled his entire catching style. Let’s not act as if there was no reason to send him down.

      • nycsportzfan says:

        No he wasen’t.. He was never a train wreck defensively.. He may not of been Ivan Rodriguez, but he wasen’t nearly as bad as Train wreck.. And i will certainly act as if he desrved teh backup job to Martin last yr, and we shoulden’t of traded for Stewart.. As it turned out, many of ur and myself were right on about that.. U keep thinking a guy whos 25yrs old managed to learn how to play catcher in less then 12months, but in reality, hes basically the exact same player as he was 12months ago..

        • WhittakerWalt says:

          What’s with the double periods?
          Anyway, didn’t Cervelli lead all minor league catchers in errors last season?

  186. TomH says:

    Good game. CC reduced a lot of tension with that performance, and if some of these guys he picked up keep performing so well, when the wounded come back Cash is going to have some tough decisions. He’ll certainly have the makings of a terrific bench.

  187. nycsportzfan says:

    Knicks and Yankees make my day very pleasent! God, i got a serious man crush on Pronk by the way! I can’t wait to see him in Yankee stadium for more games..

    Hes got a 6game hit streak by the way..

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