Update: MLB investigating Robinson Cano for potential ties to Biogenesis

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5:41pm: Christian Red, Mark Feinsand, and Michael O’Keeffe report that Cano’s name is not listed in any of the Biogenesis documents obtained by MLB. Cruz’s name appears briefly and she purchased something other than PEDs.

4:04pm: Via T.J. Quinn & Mike Fish: MLB is investigating Robinson Cano for potential ties to Biogenesis, the South Florida clinic that allegedly supplied performance-enhancing drugs to various athletes. Sonia Cruz, a spokeswoman at Cano’s foundation, is listed on the clinic’s client list for a weight-loss program. Cruz denied Robbie had any connection to Biogenesis, which Cano just reiterated to reporters in Tampa.

Long story short: MLB is investigating Cano because Cruz, Melky Cabrera (his best friend), and Alex Rodriguez (his teammate) all showed up in the various Biogenesis documents. It’s is a pretty loose connection obviously, but a connection worth investigating apparently. My only concern right now is Cano’s image more than anything. It doesn’t take much for fans to label someone a PED cheat — a label that sticks forever — and I really hope that label doesn’t applied to Robbie after this flimsy little connection. That would be a damn shame (unless he actually did them, of course).

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  • jjyank

    *sigh*

    This is just getting ridiculous.

    • Luis Castillo (Not the one who dropped the ball)

      Agreed, I hate this kinda stuff.

      I’m more of a “get back to me when you have strong evidence and you are anouncing a suspension or something like that” kind of guy.

      I hate when they fill the media web with speculations, and then everybody gets to be a judge knowing shit about the case.

      • jjyank

        Yeah, pretty much. If Cano fails a drug test, I wanna know about it. When the spokesperson for Cano’s charity foundation enrolls in a weight loss program at a clinic that still has yet to turn up anything substantial…MLB must be running out of straws to grasp at.

        And he’s friends with Melky. So the fuck what? They haven’t even been teammates since 2009. I had a friend that stole a handle of booze from a bar one time. And guess what? When he got caught, I didn’t get arrested with him.

        And he is teammates with A-Rod, who the MLB still hasn’t actually gotten anything on. So is the MLB investigating the other 23 guys on the roster too?

        This is crazy. Mini rant over.

        • Steve

          22. Cervelli is also on the list

          • jjyank

            Oh whatever. My rant still stands.

        • KeithK

          It’s entirely appropriate for MLB to check the connection. It’s due diligence. It’s unfortunate that such an investigation gets leaked to the press before there is any substance to it.

    • Phil

      Report when it’s newsworthy.

  • Havok9120

    Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

    • Deathstroke Heathcott

      Who else love witchhunts?

      • Travis L.

        He’s a Yankees…he is obviously guilty.

    • Pat D

      How said is it that the first thing this comment brought to my mind was “Gonads and Strife?”

      • Havok9120

        Um?

        That whoosh you hear is the reference going right over my head.

  • Eddard

    Oh my God, the old guilt by association. It’s one thing to go after A-Rod, it’s another to go after a completely innocent player because he was friends with Melky. Amazing how they can just name your name and tarnish your image.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    ….but it won’t stop the comment thread below from going batshit, with that one asshat blog article being cited repeatedly.

    Thank you for posting this around the time I pack up and go home from work, Mike. Makes it easy to just skip to the Game Thread later.

  • Travis L.

    Its kinda like police work. Here in NC, a citizen can go to the Magistrate’s office (judge) and swear out a warrant on someone with no evidence and just their word. That person would have to go to court and testify (in most cases they don’t and the case gets dismissed), but the defendant still gets arrested and it goes on their record as having been arrested, even when the charges are dropped. F’ing ridiculous. Sometimes I hate being a cop.

    Poor Robbie, unless, like Mike said, he actually did something.

    • MannyGeee

      Thank you for being a cop, especially since some times you have to deal with shitty things like what you described above. Good on you, Travis

      • Travis L.

        Thanks Manny. We don’t hear “thank you” very often. Its usually “what took you so long” or “where were you when I needed you”. Or…”want a donut?”.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          I didn’t know you were a police officer. Everything Manny said, and then some.

          • Travis L.

            Yup! Guess its a good thing you didn’t murder me over the Andrew Romine thing in the other thread!! LOL.

            • jjyank

              Heh. Just for fun, I think you should internet arrest Fish Fingers over here for conspiracy to commit murder.

              • Robinson Tilapia

                “Crimes against Game Threads”

                • jjyank

                  CSI: River Avenue

              • Travis L.

                R-Tils…you have the right to remain silent (so play with yourself instead of type), anything you type can and will be used against you in a court of RAB (because we can all save that shit!), you have the right to an Eddard, if you cannot afford an Eddard, one will be appointed for you by the court of RAB. Do you understand these rights? Oh…and we appoint dalelama to represent you in this matter! JJ…how’s that?

                • jjyank

                  That was excellent. Well done.

                  Okay Tilapia, down to the RAB dungeon you go. At least Ben can keep you company :P

                  • Robinson Tilapia

                    Yeah, I’m fucked with that representation. At the very least, Havok could probably hang in there for a bit representing me.

                    • Havok9120

                      And be connected with your scandalous behavior and horrible reputation?

                      I think not.

                  • Travis L.

                    And Adam Warren…not like he is getting much use around here.

                    • jjyank

                      Maybe Mustelier is down there too.

                    • Travis L.

                      Jose Ramirez and Chase Whitley too!

                    • Havok9120

                      TSJC is down there somewhere, too.

  • MannyGeee

    “It doesn’t take much for fans to label someone a PED cheat — a label that sticks forever — and I really hope that label doesn’t applied to Robbie after this flimsy little connection.”

    Well, usually a failed test or admission of guilt usually earn you that label…

    Because NO ONE (that I’ve heard at least) is really considering Cruz or Cervelli PED cheats at this time. However A Rods admission, Braun’s failed test (regardless of the outcome) and the others who have been cast under the shadow have had more than a passing suspicion…

  • Darren

    The naivete on this board is astounding. You probably would be shocked, absolutely shocked, if there was gambling at Rick’s.

    You think it’s a coincidence that Cano’s spokeswoman is a client of Biogenesis?

    • Pat D

      Your winnings, sir.

      But guess what? As with any player, I don’t really give a shit if he did take PED’s.

    • MannyGeee

      That would be Canos’ Foundations’ Spokeswoman.

      Your reach for a connection is almost as far fetched as the MLBs connections via Melky and A-Rod.

      • Darren

        You really think that because she’s a spokeperson for his foundation and not for him personally that this make it a farfetched connection? lordy lordy.

        • MannyGeee

          Yes, yes I do.

          I think that you or I are 6 degrees away from knowing someone who has walked by the Biogenesis Labs, doesn’t mean I am pissing dirty… And I think that casting accusations like this in 2013 when anyone could be accused of anything and it goes around like wild fire because of social media is dangerous and not always accuarte…

          lordy lordy indded

        • Travis L.

          Yes. Legally, there is no evidence and its all a damn rumor. What if I someone went around saying that you are having an affair with the woman two doors down from you, who you were seen having a conversation with? Oh, and during that conversation, she laughed. Just because you are talking with that woman doesn’t mean you’re screwing her. So, how this relates to Robbie’s case? Just because that woman that he knows went to that lab (probably because Robbie’s best friend suggested it to her) doesn’t mean that he went there to take PEDs. Its a rumor. Leave it alone.

        • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (Formerly RRR)

          Are you serious? that’s a horrible connection, yes. You could name any random player (or person for that matter) and I’d say the same thing. What a joke.

    • Darren

      And if you read her denials, it’s a joke. Out of all the weight loss clinics, that was the one she randomly picked?

      You might be smart abuyt UZR but you’re real dumb about this stuff. Big ol blind spot for True Yankees. And I LOVE Cano by the way. TO me, it’s not the biggest deal in the world anymore. I mean, it sucks, but my horse rides just above the mud.

      • m

        so the fact that the cost of the items was for a weight loss program, and she independently came up with the weight loss explanation is irrelevant? yes, we are all sheeple, and you are the ever so wise one looking down at the naive masses. oh educated great one, thank you for shining the light of truth upon this issue.

        • Darren

          Please explain “independently”

          • m

            independently from the bosch sources who explained that the cost was consistent with weight loss.

          • Travis L.

            Darren…ever had any friends do something stupid that you knew about? Did you do it too? Did you turn them in? No…probably not. Just went, “you tool” and walked away. You were still friends with them, but never did that shit yourself. That makes it very hypocritical of you to suggest that just because Melky sucked and had to cheat to be good, that Robbie had to as well. Robbie was good and didn’t need that shit. He didn’t turn in Melky because Melky is his friend. Doesn’t make Robbie a bad guy or a cheat. You though….kinda ignorant.

            • murakami

              Melky didn’t suck, he got traded. What sucks is Cashman’stalent evaluation skills.

              Now he’ll hit .300 for a third team that isn’t the Yankees.

              • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

                Melky sucked and got traded. He hit .263/.320/.382 in his last 1,000 PA for NYY. He sucked.

                • Preston

                  And then got cut by the Braves, who obviously also can’t evaluate talent. They just happen to be two of the more successful franchises for the last two decades.

              • Havok9120

                That’s some lovely revisionist history you’re peddling there.

          • Havok9120

            She says she’s never gotten anything from them. It was sources from within the clinic which said that such a bill was consistent with their weight loss program.

            C’mon. If you’re going to spin theories without any evidence at least have the background knowledge down pat.

      • BeanTooth

        But the amounts the story says she spent, according to the records, are way too small to be for PEDs, and are actually more in line with weight loss regimens. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Does she live in Miami? Where does this woman live? And why wouldn’t, if Robbie clearly knows people who’ve utilized Biogenesis, she go on a recommendation?

        My sister-in-law is an independent travel agent in Miami. She booked a trip for a major leaguer once. He liked her services. He recommended some friends who had her book stuff for them. One of them was Robbie. It’s not far-fetched.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      I think I believe in proving your case before you pronounce someone guilty.

      • Travis L.

        Here, here!!

    • jjyank

      “You think it’s a coincidence that Cano’s spokeswoman is a client of Biogenesis?”

      Um, yes. Why you think that the spokeswoman for Cano’s charity foundation enrolling in a weight loss program has anything to do with PEDs, without any evidence, might be the greatest leap of logical faith I have witnessed in a very long time.

  • steves

    Since we are in the land of total speculation I wouldn’t be surprised if Scott Boras somehow ends being involved in some way in spilling the beans to discredit his former client; Cruz already was quoted as saying that she needed to talk to Boras when she was first approached by Outside the Lines

    • MannyGeee

      dude… that reads like a great Hollywood script… I would shit myself if this was true.

      I mean, I know Boras does some work with his clients on “nutrition”, but could you imagine if he was “Teh Kingpinz!” Holy lord jesus that would be great…

      • steves

        No one double-crosses Boras and gets away with it!

      • Mike HC

        hahaha

  • trr

    Oh fuck no….so, if my friend shot his wife, I would be investigated too, huh?

    • jjyank

      Yes, if Bud Selig was the president of America.

  • Sam

    Well, you knew this was coming. Wasn’t there some rumor about this a few weeks ago? The anti-Yankee machine is in full swing.

    Of course if it turns out to be true, he can’t be the new face of the franchise can he?

    • The Big City of Dreams

      Well, you knew this was coming.

      ———————–

      Over the past few weeks I felt like something was going to come out regarding Cano. Not saying he is guilty and he’s a cheat but it felt too quiet since we had a roid story.

    • Havok9120

      The report said that he was actually named in the records. He is not. It was patently false.

  • LK

    As long as he doesn’t get suspended, I really could not possibly give less of a shit.

  • BeanTooth

    All part of the plan to get under $189 million next year.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      I laughed.

    • steves

      My first thought was that it was Scott Boras behind all this. Thinking it’s Randy Levine carrying out orders instead is even more juicier!

  • Big Member

    fianaly mlb has receieved my extensive research on cano’s ties with arod and melky

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Then it must be true. Fuck.

    • Travis L.

      Finally get around to Cano’s Wikipedia page? Go You!!

  • Gonzo

    So A-Rod dropped the dime, right?

    • Gonzo

      Furthermore, what is up with every athlete having a foundation?

      • Robinson Tilapia

        I’ve got zero against that.

        • Gonzo

          You should when you realize that very, very little actually goes to the cause. Not singling out Cano because I don’t know specifically about his foundation’s financials, but wouldn’t it be better to join an already established foundation (like Warren Buffett) or nonprofit if your true goal was to help the cause? It saves a ton on overhead.

          • Travis L.

            Actually…and I’m not being a dick here…most of the orgs that the athletes run get their money. Its the other non-profits that scare me. Its kind of an image thing, mixed with some athletes pasts. If they went through something, they want to help others so they don’t have it so hard…that type of thing. Like Robertson’s High Socks for Hope…they get a majority of the finances I believe…although I cant find the page that I saw it on. So…I guess I have no actual evidence to back up what I said (although I know I read it somewhere).

            • Gonzo

              ESPN just did a Outside the Lines about this. They even cited A-Rod’s foundation as one of the worst run.

              http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/st.....-use-money

              • Travis L.

                Its A-Rod….haha. Ok, got me on that one. I follow D-Rob’s pretty closely (so I think) and his seems to be run well. Maybe I’m just biased.

                • Gonzo

                  It could be well run, but without looking at its 990, you can’t tell me what % goes to the actual cause. Furthermore, who is on the board, how much the Director gets paid (relative to other similar sized NP’s), or even if they are up to date with their taxes.

                  Some athletes put their family and friends on the payroll at well above market prices at the expense of the cause. Some do even worse like Lamar Odom.

                  • Gonzo

                    Wouldn’t it be much easier to give and work with an already great nonprofit?

                    This is exactly what Warren Buffett did when he decided to give to the Gates Foundation even though he is giving away more than enough to start his own foundation. He didn’t want to double the overhead at the cost of the cause.

  • Joe Q. Public Opinion

    Too late. Any time someone is even discussed as linked to a PED clinic or distributer then guess what. The cloud of PED use follows them.

  • Karl Krawfid

    MLB is the only sport that embarrasses ITSELF when it comes to PEDS.

  • Travis L.

    Alright damnit…you kids play nice! I’m out, until 5:30am, when I come back to work. Don’t believe every rumor you hear. Wait until evidence is shown…not just a connection. Connected doesn’t mean guilty.

  • Bo Knows

    I have a confession I know people who allegedl have done illegal things and substances i have never seen them commit said acts and the only reason i know they did something was based off something a friend of a friends baby’s momma step-sister’s cousin three times removed told me. I guess I’m guilty and must turn myself in for these crimes

  • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (Formerly RRR)

    MLB has become a fucking farce at this point. What a joke.

  • Hater

    F-bomb MLB, F-bomb ESPN/OTL!

  • Cheese at the Knees

    Classic guilt by association. MLB seems to be on some sort of witch hunt.

  • jsbrendog

    i like turtles.

  • J

    I’m definitely in the minority here but I think the MLB is not wrong in looking into this. It’s definitely a shot in the dark but it’s called being thorough.

    Cano is friends with A-rod and Melky, and also trained with Cisco in the offseason. It’s not too far fetched to think they all did the same thing together: Purchased some goods from this Biogenesis place and trained during the offseason. Cruz is not Cano, but Roger Clemens made a similar sort of excuse saying that some illegal substances he bought were for his wife when he was under investigation. Is it too difficult to imagine Cano asking this woman to buy things in her name for him? I’m not saying I think Cano did anything or took anything, but if the MLB wants to investigate then it seems like something they should consider. Making it public, however, is another thing. At this stage, without clear evidence it is just irresponsible and embarrassing for Cano for no real reason.

    • Havok9120

      I don’t think they’re wrong to look into it. I don’t blame MLB here.

      I blame the reporting of it. Those reporting on this KNOW what the assumption will be when they put it out with no further evidence or independent verification. Not only do they still put out the story but they do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to discourage baseless speculation and, if anything, encourage it.

      It’s times like these that I wish American libel/slander laws were more like Britain’s.

  • Eddard

    So Cano’s name is not in the report and his spokeswoman didn’t even buy PEDs. Way to tarnish a man’s image, MLB. I hate the news media. Did you see what CNN did last week? Or the NY Post putting those poor men on the front page and saying they were responsible for the Boston bombing when they really had nothing to do with it? They just make up shit and think we’ll forget about it, which we will. MLB is grasping at straws.

  • http:/www.twitter.com/_swarlesbarkley Mark Teixeira – Ghostbuster (formerly Drew)

    Well looks like the rumor has been debunked… AGAIN.

  • Wayne

    I would have to say cano’s body definitely changed over the years. People keep talking about assumptions but alot of this stuff turns out to be true 90 percent of the time. I do not want another arod situation with all the money we will have to invest in this guy next year and he is going to be 32 next year. If this is not a sign that the yankees should not sign him i don’t know what is! Notice all these results that some one tests positive come after they sign their contract extensión ala arod. I pray that the yankees don’t sign cano because once it tur?s out he tested positive his performance will go down. I just know it!!!!!