Game 81: Halfway Mark

Well, he isn't wrong. (Patrick Smith/Getty)

Orioles fans can finally say that and not be wrong. (Patrick Smith/Getty)

At the end of the night, the Yankees will be on pace for either 84 wins or 86 wins. Either way, probably not enough to qualify for the postseason. The good news is that paces mean very little. Some good health and a few smart trade deadline pickups could change New York’s second half outlook dramatically, but for now they’re stuck with one of the worst lineups in baseball and a pitching staff that has shown some cracks in the dam the last few weeks. The Yankees have already lost this important series to the Orioles, but at least tonight they can escape with a win. Here’s the lineup that will face right-hander Chris Tillman:

  1. CF Brett Gardner
  2. RF Ichiro Suzuki
  3. 2B Robinson Cano
  4. DH Travis Hafner
  5. LF Zoilo Almonte
  6. 1B Lyle Overbay
  7. SS Jayson Nix
  8. C Chris Stewart
  9. 3B David Adams

And on the mound is the first 200-million yen pitcher in Hiroshima Carp history, right-hander Hiroki Kuroda. That’s a touch more than $2M.

It was raining in Baltimore for most of the day, but that has cleared up and they should have no trouble getting the game in tonight. First pitch is scheduled for a little after 8pm ET and can be seen on ESPN. Enjoy.

Rotation Update: After last night’s long relief appearance, Ivan Nova will not make a spot start against the Twins this coming week. The rotation will simply remain on schedule.

Categories : Game Threads


  1. Spencer Tang says:

    Hiroki Kuroda, a fan base turns its lonely eyes to you.

  2. forensic says:

    Oh my god, a lineup I can’t really complain about.

    Someone must’ve locked Girardi in a closet…

  3. Mick taylor says:

    Does anyone believe firing Kevin long would help? Rothchild has been a really good pitching coach , but name me a hitter long has made better .

    • forensic says:

      I’m certainly not a fan of Long and think he’s pretty well overrated here, but he’s not a miracle worker. The players they have chosen to continue running out there only have so much skill, which is to say not much.

    • Rolling Doughnut says:


    • Pat D says:

      Gardner, Melky, Granderson, Cano.

      • MannyGeee says:

        Kevin Long is a good hitting coach, but in fairness look at the shit show he has to work with. Take the blame off Long and blame it on the true cause… Father Time and Uncle Fluke Injury.

      • forensic says:

        It’s not even worth it right now since they have bigger issues than Long, but there are certainly arguments to poke in every one of those players.

        • Pat D says:

          Yes, there are, but you can say he’s definitely helped them, too.

          • forensic says:

            There’s an argument for Granderson and Cano (though also arguments against them both). Slightly less of one for Gardner, though he’s tougher to judge.

            I don’t see much of an argument for Melky though, but again, he’s easily the lowest of the four.

    • TomH says:

      No, for reasons others have said (e.g., the talent level is low), and also because from what one hears from their mouths on tv interviews and reads in interviews of them, the players seem to like Long.

    • Laz says:

      Is Long really the reason though for the hitting woes?
      Gardner and Cano are fine, but who else is supposed to be great. Nix is not Jeter, Wells isn’t Granderson, Adams isn’t Youk or Arod, Overbay isn’t Teix.

      If they had their players healthy and were scoring like this I would agree, but you can’t blame Long because Nix is a shitty hitter.

  4. Winter says:

    This is the best lineup/pitcher combination I can remember since Teixeira got hurt again. Which is really, really sad.

    After typing that, I looked it up and an almost identical lineup played last time Kuroda pitched. So what I’m really saying is my memory sucks.

  5. Dan says:

    Ok, we were in it for 4 outs yesterday, so let’s see if we can hang tough for the first two inning and go from there.

  6. Wheels says:

    Just put that lineup out there as much as possible for now.

  7. Kramerica Industries says:

    No wonder the Red Sox have 50 wins. Lucky wins like that.

    Fucking wankers.

  8. pat says:

    Girardi’s gonna get tossed tonight if they’re losing.

  9. Crime Dog says:

    You gotta put this lineup out as much as possible really. Even against lefties, I would keep Hafner in and just move guys around. The guys who are in this lineup have the most “live” bats of the available guys, so put them out there regardless of lefty/righty. Let’s win one tonight and start a little roll maybe.

  10. forensic says:

    Nice Hafner, don’t worry about swinging at that fastball clearly in the zone. It’s much better to swing at the one 2 feet high instead like you did earlier in the AB.

  11. Kramerica Industries says:

    Wells has an OPS of .316 since May 15?

    I mean, holy shit. That’s an awful OBP, let alone adding the OBP with his slugging percentage.

  12. Mick taylor says:

    Orioles have a better hitter at every position except 2nd base.
    Game over

  13. forensic says:

    One whole out before they start trailing…

  14. Kramerica Industries says:

    And here we go…

    another first inning deficit. Even with HIROK on the mound, this was kinda predictable.

  15. Tom says:

    So the temporary 3 man bench to give Nova a spot start is now a default 8 man in the pen plan for the foreseeable future?

    What ridiculous roster construction… regradless of injuries that is an absurd way to run your team (Cashman). Call up another bat already (Dan Johnson), if you can’t find a bat on the market.

    So the only actual PH tonight (and any night a righty starts a game) is Vernon Wells?

    • forensic says:

      It’s not like a surprise, they’ve been showing their terrible ability to construct a roster all season. Just think about how many times they played with short benches for injured players for at least a week at a time. And that’s just the start of it.

      • Tom says:

        What bothered me most is yesterday… Warren hasn’t pitched since June 23.

        Game out of hand, you have Nova on the roster for the primary reason of making a spot start, and rather than use your ACTUAL long man in the pen, they burn Nova?

        If the plan was to start him, shouldn’t Warren be the first long man in out of the pen when a game is out of hand?

        • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

          I assumed they used Nova as a tuneup for the spot start. He’d still be in line to start Thursday’s game. I figured they didn’t want him to have a ton of days off before that start.

          I’m flummoxed that they’ve now decided not to start him at all.

  16. MannyGeee says:

    Now, if Machado can only hit 7 more tonight, my abortion of a fantasy team will be able to save some face

    • forensic says:

      I was up 15-4 in my matchup this week until the first inning of the Cardinals game. After that inning, I was tied 10-10. That really pissed me off.

  17. Winter says:

    Baseball player!

  18. Wheels says:

    Nix has his moments in the field.

  19. your mom says:

    Well shit, game over.

  20. MannyGeee says:

    What a snag by Nix.

  21. MannyGeee says:

    Chris Stewart just got clubbed

  22. Eddard says:

    I just don’t know why the Yankees can’t get an everyday impact ballplayer through their system like the Os have with Machado and up and down their lineup. Must be nice to root for a good, young nucleus with so much potential, something we haven’t had since the late 90s.

    • Crime Dog says:

      He was the 3rd overall pick in the draft… That type of talent doesn’t just fall through the draft easily.

    • TomH says:

      Well, the O’s used to be pretty bad, and in the age of Seligized leveling, one may have to put in bad years in order to have good years.

      How G & H. Steinbrenner ever consented to all these regulations is beyond me. It’s like the scene in Gulliver’s Travels, where the little guys tie up the big guy

    • Ethan says:

      Well the Yankees haven’t exactly had good position for draft picks in a long while. Whereas the O’s had 15 years of them.

    • MannyGeee says:

      Sucking for a long long time tends to lead to better drafts and coincidentally better players coming through the system. Machado was Drafted by the Baltimore Orioles in the 1st round (3rd pick) of the 2010 amateur draft.

  23. Wil Nieves #1 Fan says:

    Trade for DeWayne Wise. Have him bunt a lot.

  24. MannyGeee says:

    LoverBay has become horribly bad.

  25. Winter says:

    Nix really shooting for that warning track there.

  26. forensic says:

    Just missed the warning track…

  27. MannyGeee says:

    Nix… Warning track power, even in a hitter park

  28. Winter says:

    With two doubles in the last three games, I believe we can now christen Chris “Doubles-Hitter” Stewart.

    • forensic says:

      Obscure, meaningless stat time:

      Before those last two games, his teams were 16-0 in the last 16 games where he doubled.

  29. MannyGeee says:

    That shot to the head might have been all Stewart needed to become a hitter.

  30. forensic says:

    Tillman is very much like their Hughes. Unable to put batters away, long counts, lots of homers. It’d sure be nice if they treated him like most teams treat Hughes…

  31. Cuso says:

    Too bad they couldn’t have this situation with 1 out.

  32. MannyGeee says:

    3-1. Green light Adams?

  33. Wheels says:

    C’mon Gardner

  34. Cuso says:

    Well, at least we can say there’s a better than 10% chance to get a run here with Gardner.

  35. RetroRob says:

    Nothing sums up the Yankee season more than rooting for Gardner to get up to bat since he’s one of the better hitters now.

  36. Kramerica Industries says:

    A run!

  37. RetroRob says:

    Nothing sums up the Yankee season more than rooting for Gardner to walk with the bases loaded since that’s one of the few ways they can score. : -)

  38. Tom says:

    So odds Ichiro swings at the first pitch (I have some crazy hope that he;ll take a strike here)

  39. RetroRob says:

    Nothing sums up the Yankee season more than Ichiro popping up with the bases loaded.

    Okay, I think I’m done for now. At least we’re tied.

  40. Eddard says:

    Guy couldn’t command a damn pitch and they only managed to get one run. That’s the kind of missed opportunity that always comes back to cost them.

  41. Ethan says:

    Just a perfect example of ESPN bias. That whole rally all they talk about is how the Orioles can get out of it. Man, I fucking hate national broadcasts.

  42. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Dicktease with shots of tequila. Reminds me of college.

  43. Wheels says:

    Chris Davis setting a great example with that tobacco.

    • Wheels says:

      To which he says to me, fuck you.

      • Pat D says:

        I know what you mean, though. My favorite cousin still does dip and I just want to slap him upside the head. But he’s about 12 years older than me and I don’t feel it’s my place. At the same time I want to remind him that he has two kids, aged 13 and somewhere between 8-10.

        I think that because our grandfather lived so long after being a pipe-smoker for years that good luck will help him out, I don’t know.

  44. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Well that tie sure lasted long.

  45. Kramerica Industries says:


  46. your mom says:

    Someone needs to test that man!

    • Winter says:

      As much as I hate to admit it, he’s always had this kind of power. And did you see that slow motion replay of that swing? The talent is there.

  47. your mom says:

    “Reminds me of Ken Griffey Jr” Um no.

  48. goterpsgo says:

    I suspect the warning signs were already pretty clear to everyone last year in that 2013 was a transition year. I was hoping, with all the money coming off the books, that the free agent market would be good enough and the team could reload. The former has come true, the latter has unfortunately not. I don’t know if we’re going to see any teams as bad as the ’90 and ’91 squads, but we may see a team that’s not up to recent standards for at least a couple of years.

    As for those 0′s fans – good job there with the spelling on that sign, Sparky! Or did your mom do that for you?

  49. Winter says:

    Can ESPN quit it with the behind-the-plate camera angle? Thanks.

  50. Kramerica Industries says:

    I’m trying to figure out some of Davis’ numbers.

    I mean, he had a very solid season last year, and looked to finally be breaking out and becoming a formidable power threat. .270/33 HR, .827 OPS and 122 OPS+.

    But THIS? .333/1.133, 30 HR (now 31) and a 201 OPS+? ‘Cripes.

    • Bo Knows says:

      he’s not missing any mistakes

    • Winter says:

      I know this sounds like a broken record, but I don’t think it’s sustainable (even though he’s kept it up for half a season). I’d expect him to finish the year something like .300 with 50 HR. For comparison, Reggie Jackson hit 37 HR in the first half of the 1969 season and finished the year with 47.

  51. Bo Knows says:

    tip your cap to that throw, that was crazy

  52. Eddard says:

    The guy can throw a fastball and only a fastball for a strike and Hafner is reaching for a double. Zolio swung right through two FBs when he knew what was coming.

  53. Tom says:

    I’m baffled that there are still people who think Adam Jones is a good CF’r, he isn’t even an average one.

    I guess people assume since he’s athletic he must be good but both advanced defensive stats have him well below average for the last 3 years (so the data has moved beyond the noise stage).

  54. Bo Knows says:

    I’m glad Adam Jones is such an Ambassador to the game, but that said he never deserved that Gold Glove

  55. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:


  56. Kramerica Industries says:

    Are fucking kidding me Hiroki?


  57. Kramerica Industries says:

    Remember when the Yankees owned Camden Yards?

    Jeez, seems like a theme with many a road park this season.

    • Winter says:

      Yankees “owned” Camden Yards because it’s a very good hitters’ park and they had a great offense. Take away the offense, and the advantage vanishes.

      • Kramerica Industries says:

        Still, they went 7-4 there just last season. I can’t even remember the last time they had a losing record there, which is something that would be clinched for 2013 if they lose tonight.

        Now it’s just an annoying place with a home run siren that was last used by any sports team back around 1997.

        • Winter says:

          Last season they had the best offense in baseball by wRC+. This year they have the fourth worst. There’s your difference.

  58. Rolling Doughnut says:

    So now HRok sucks too. Grand.

  59. Anderson Silva says:

    Embarrassing. This team is a joke.

  60. Wheels says:

    I see another loss here.

  61. Fin says:

    1 more run and this game is outa reach. Can’t expect the Yankees to score any more than 3 runs in any given game.

  62. Eddard says:

    They can’t hit a lick. And now they can’t pitch anymore. Their best starter right now is Ivan Nova and he isn’t even starting! They better hope they can get better against Minny and KC before the ASB, otherwise it’s over.

  63. Da Zhang says:

    Is anyone else also getting mild depression from watching this team play night in and night out?

  64. your mom says:

    Okay, this team has hit a new fucking low. Even our best pitcher is throwing like crap. What’s next? Mo to the DL? Can’t compete for shit against true playoff teams like the A’s and O’s. Fuck just sell already.

  65. Ethan says:

    Arod why are you helping out the competition? That’s a stupid thing to do.

    • Bo Knows says:

      I’m assuming this is sarcasm, so obligatory “It’s all Alex’s fault”

      • Ethan says:

        I actually wasn’t being sarcastic. You don’t normally see people in the same job for different companies competing for a job/contract/etc. helping out one another. Why should baseball be any different?

        • Bo Knows says:

          I really wish you said it was sarcasm. Arod is a vet there is nothing wrong with trying to make help a young player and make sure he doesn’t repeat the mistakes the vet has done. Arod had been mentoring Machado since high school, training with him, helping refine his fielding and hitting. This dates back a long time.

    • Dan says:

      That really is one of the dumbest things written on here in weeks. Truly it is.

      • Ethan says:

        You don’t normally see people in the same job for different companies competing for a job/contract/etc. helping out one another. Why should baseball be any different?

  66. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Hirok is getting scalded today.

  67. Rolling Doughnut says:

    OK Kuroda’s up in the zone, and they roughed him up. But the fact that Tillman only has control of the FB and we still can’t get any runs off him is shameful.

    • The Real Greg says:

      Well they got 1 run which for this offense is pretty good.

      • Dan says:

        I don’t consider it an offensive run though. It was more allowing the pitcher to make mistakes 4 times in a row. If the Yankees score, it’s usually accidental.

  68. Tom says:

    “It’s (Boston) the team that Baltimore is trying to chase down in the East.”

    You almost have to laugh that there was no mention the Yankees are also chasing that team.

  69. your mom says:

    Flat FBs right down the middle, c’mon Nix.

  70. Ethan says:

    No mention of Nix as far as nice plays. And that was possibly the best play of the game for both teams.

  71. Manny's BanWagon says:

    Kuroda needs to shut them down right now because 1 more run and this game goes in the column to the right.

    • Rolling Doughnut says:

      ude the game is over. It’s just shits an grins now. Go Yanks.

      • Winter says:

        Yankees have averaged 3.85 runs per game. As much as that sucks, it means they’re not actually out of this (yet).

        • Rolling Doughnut says:

          How many runs on avg have they scored against good pitchers, we’ll use your definition of “good”

    • Kramerica Industries says:

      this sounds like the quasi “put it on the left side” Kay-ism of 2011.

      G-d. Never again. I hated that phrase.

  72. MannyGeee says:

    OK WE GET IT, THE ORIOLES ARE FUN…. For shits sake. They have a ping pong table, throw them a fucking parade….

    I just went all stuart a on that ping pong table.

    • Tom says:

      but it’s an OLYMPIC size ping pong table… that’s meaningful and just another example of how Schowalter sends a message in everything he does.


  73. Tom says:

    When did ESPN switch over to the MASN telecast?

    • The Real Greg says:

      The baseball crew are front runners and home lovers.

    • Fin says:

      Eh, I heard ESPN go on for 9 innings about how great the Yankees line up was in years past. Must have drove the other teams fans nuts. Not a lot to talk about in a positive light with the Yankees right now and the O’s have a good, exciting young team so its what they talk about.

      • chris says:

        I sure don’t remember much of that.

        • Kramerica Industries says:

          Selective memory. Honestly, I don’t blame you, but it probably has happened.

          There’s a reason why I can read Red Sox fans complaining about “YESpn” and Yankee fans complaining about “NESpN” after any Red Sox/Yankees game. We hear what we want to hear and ignore the rest.

        • The Real Greg says:

          Probably because most of it was in the 1990s

      • Dan says:

        Yeah, agreed. What are they going to say about the Yankees? Short of making things up that aren’t true all that they would be able to talk about is injuries, Arod controversies, and underachievers. I’d rather hear about the Orioles to be honest.

    • MannyGeee says:

      Since NESN is airing a re-run of ‘Sox Appeal’…

  74. Winter says:

    …and sexy. Have they mentioned how sexy Buck Showalter is?

  75. Anderson Silva says:

    why are these guys in the majors if they can’t hit FBs? amazing..

  76. Rizi Walnutz says:

    Jeez, somebody get Orel a date with Buck.

  77. The Real Greg says:

    Speaking of Rolling Doughnut’s point about good pitchers, it boggles my mind that this Yankee team was able to win both games that King Felix started.

    Now they mainly did it against the pen, but they had to get Felix out first

  78. Wheels says:

    Why is there an Oriole fan dressed up as Macho Man Randy Savage? I don’t get it

    • MannyGeee says:

      Well, that’s how they roll in B-more. And when I say ‘ how they roll’, I obviously mean beaming on coke and smacking their wives.

  79. MannyGeee says:

    It is pretty amazing that Machado is only 20. The kid is gonna be something special.

  80. MannyGeee says:

    Boom. Cano getting that Jay Z money right there.

  81. Kramerica Industries says:

    When did Robbie last go yard?

  82. HateMclouth (formerly I'mVernon) says:

    OMG….an XBH!

  83. MannyGeee says:

    Fuck, Pronk has chased at least 2 at the eyes tonight already.

  84. Lukaszek says:


    I admit I turn on these games only because of you, no homo

  85. The Real Greg says:

    I don’t think we have any good pinch hitters so you can forget about that going forward in this game

  86. Anderson Silva says:

    at least Cano is heating up.. unfortunately the other guys can’t figure out how to hit a 94mph straight-as-an-arrow fastball

  87. Eddard says:

    That chance to beat them was against Tillman. They’re not going to hit Oday’s frisbee or Johnson’s bowling ball and Buck will bring in Matusz to shut down the lefties.

  88. Kramerica Industries says:

    O’Day is in?

    *calling Joey Bats*

  89. MannyGeee says:

    McLouth: “glad you almost caught a ball that would have been an out… Fuck your peanuts”

  90. The Real Greg says:

    I would not bunt here.

  91. Tom says:

    So now Girardi doesn’t bunt?

    Righty specialist, 1 run game….

  92. Dalek Jeter says:

    Just got in, wow, it took all the way till the 7th inning for them to bring up A-Rod? Or has this been an off and on all game?

  93. Kramerica Industries says:

    ROOGY Darren O’Day just walked two RHB.

    You can’t waste this kind of chance.

  94. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Bullshit call.

  95. Dalek Jeter says:

    Wow…that 2-0 call was fucking ludicrous, has that been all night?

  96. Kramerica Industries says:

    But waste it they did.

    Predictable. And also quite pathetic.

  97. SDB says:


    Well, that glimmer of hope was nice while it lasted.

  98. Wheels says:

    Move along, nothing to see here.

  99. Fin says:

    Its like a miracle when these guys drive in a run. When ever anyone is on base I truly am surprised if they score.

  100. The Real Greg says:

    Can’t blame the weak hitters this time. Gardner and Ichiro failed

    • Rolling Doughnut says:

      Depends on one’s definition of weak hitter.

    • Dalek Jeter says:

      The ump sabotoged Gardner’s AB, he still failed but that AB might(and probably) has a different outcome if it goes to 3-0 instead of 2-1. Ichiro, no excuse.

      • The Real Greg says:

        Alhough I give Ichiro a slight pass because IMO driving in runs with two outs is very tough to do. The pressure to get a hit is astronomical.

      • Winter says:

        Pinning the entire game on one strike call feels like a cop out; a way of avoiding the offense’s ineptitude.

        • Dalek Jeter says:

          I wouldn’t say the entire game, but I’d say that inning. At least for myself, I felt the wind go out of my sails at that point. Not saying we won’t tie/win, but the second that ball was called a strike I knew it wouldn’t happen that inning.

  101. Charles says:

    Anyone else notice that the highlights of the game so far made it seem like the Orioles are up 10-0 instead of a 3-2 game? Not a single Yankee play in the highlight reel. Don’t know why I’m surprised though, it is NESPN.

  102. Bo Knows says:

    Here’s some good news, even if the yankees lose they have the Twins tomorrow! They should at least wins of those games

    • yeayo says:

      There are no guaranteed wins with this team.

      • Bo Knows says:

        I’m trying to be optimistic dude, or would you rather here that if they get swept or win just one game, they could theoretically be in the bottom ten for wins and losses?

        • The Real Greg says:

          High draft pick. Might be just what this organization needs.

          • Bo Knows says:

            Sadly that’s the bright hope I cling too, because they aren’t making the post at this rate so that’s the only optimistic take I see over this year.

            I’ll admit it would be cool if one of my fellow Wolfpack (I go to NC State) get drafted by the Yankees

  103. Bo Knows says:

    I despise that fucking chant

  104. Kramerica Industries says:

    Yankees fucked themselves in the top half of the inning, and now the game is about to slip away for good.

    Good job, assholes.

  105. yeayo says:

    Well this game is fucking over.

  106. Jimmy McNulty says:

    Some good health and a few smart trade deadline pickups could change New York’s second half outlook dramatically

    This team is a thousand years old and the past three years as opposed to actually getting good baseball players their off season plan is find some shitty vet and hope they have a fluke season.

  107. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Logan w/RISP?


  108. Tom says:

    Wow, he missed location on that by about a foot. You don’t see that a lot with Kuroda.

  109. your mom says:

    That chant is fucking annoying. I bet half of those Baltimore ‘tards don’t even know who sings that song.

  110. The Real Greg says:

    A poor start for Kuroda given his “ace” label this year

  111. Wheels says:

    Looks like the Natty Boh’s are going down easy tonight in Camden Yards.

  112. Tom says:

    FFS, Girardi. I don’t know why I continue to be amazed that he can’t grasp the simple concept of not bring in a LOOGY to face a weak lefty.

    Apparently the opposing manager can PH? Who knew.

  113. Kramerica Industries says:

    I wouldn’t mind if the Seven Nation Army thing just kinda stayed in Baltimore and isn’t heard anywhere else across this fine continent of ours.

    Holy crap.

  114. Dalek Jeter says:

    Nice play Boonie! You’re a third of the way to a full box of cookies.

  115. Kramerica Industries says:

    This crew is marveling at these Orioles fans and their noise.

    Can anybody remember when the Orioles last appeared on Sunday Night Baseball, especially at Camden Yards. Even I can’t venture a guess at this one!

  116. Winter says:

    What a terribly weak throw.

  117. Anderson Silva says:

    What a weak throw.

  118. Dalek Jeter says:

    What a pasta-armed throw by Gardner, I thought he had improved on his throwing…a 5 hopper?!

  119. The Real Greg says:

    Gardner ain’t earning the GG this year

  120. Wheels says:

    Wieters looked slow as shit too.

  121. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Shit throw Gardy.

  122. Dalek Jeter says:

    Given the situation he was put into, I have to say, that was impressive by Boone.

  123. your mom says:

    “Sweeeeet Caroline….duh, duh, duh…….”

  124. John says:

    Gardy may run like Mays, but he throws like s..t.

  125. your mom says:

    I like pinch hitting Wells here because it makes Buck use another pitcher. Why not? More mileage for their pen.

    • Winter says:

      You really think one more AB for Hunter versus one more AB for O’Day makes any difference? I’d rather see Hafner batting against lefty than Wells batting against a righty, and I’d much rather the Yankees try to score than try to tire out the Orioles bullpen by a minuscule amount.

      • your mom says:

        You really think it would’ve mattered if Hafner did face Patton as opposed to Wells facing Hunter. It was a wash either way. Not like this shit offense had any chance of coming back.

  126. Anderson Silva says:

    excellent AB! That’s why they have Wells..

  127. Fin says:

    Vern Dog very impressive there.

  128. Oy says:

    Shit, you gotta know when to fold it. This team is not going anywhere and no one is coming to save it. Tex is out for the year. A-Rod is out indefinitely, looks like the team wants to keep him off the field. Youk is out for the year. No recent news on Granderson. And what numbers do we expect from Jeter? Oh wait, Michael Young is on the market! He and Paul Konerko will be our saviors!

    Just give up and prepare for the next year. Trade Cano for a haul. Kuroda, if put on the trade market, would be the best available starter in terms of contract and ability. See if anyone (coughDodgerscough) is willing to take on CC’s contract.

    • Bo Knows says:

      I know your trolling, so I’m not going to pull any punches when I say that’s f’n stupid.

      One recent bit of news on Granderson was last week, when he had the pin removed and is practicing dry swings. CC’s has a full no trade clause and has said before he’s wearing pinstripes until he retires. Kuroda isn’t going anywhere either and Cano is a free agent at the end of the year in an age where you can’t recoup draft picks if a guy leaves which would be a certainty because he’s expecting to get paid.

      • Oy says:

        Oooh dry swings! Looks like we’ll have our left fielder back after the All Star Break! CC is from the Cali region and expressed great interest in playing there while being a free agent. Yanks just blew him away with the money. An All Star second baseman will bring you a great haul, your idea that the lack of a compensation pick will draw teams away from acquiring a player who can easily be worth 2-3 wins down the line, is “fn stupid”.

        And why isn’t Kuroda going anywhere? Does he have a secret pact by which he can’t leave his best friend Ichiro?

        • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

          Pretty sure Kuroda has a NTC.
          And he’s used one in the past to stay with the Dodgers.

            • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

              I’m aware of Cot’s.
              Their information comes from published reports.
              It’s entirely possible he has one and it just wasn’t reported.
              He insisted on one for 2012. It’s very unlikely he didn’t insist on one again this year.
              Also this:

              Besides, the Yankees might not have much to sell. Hiroki Kuroda has a full no-trade clause, and when he had the same provision in July 2011, he refused to waive it to leave a losing Dodgers club to accept a trade to the Yankees, among other suitors.

              I’m not 100% sure he does have a NTC, but I’d be willing to bet he does.

              • Oy says:

                I can’t find any info regarding Kuroda having a no trade clause. MLB Trade Rumors does not mention it. I have a hard time trusting Sherman as the sole source of info. Thanks for the link, but it would be great to know if he actually has that option or no.

                Mayhaps it is unpublished. I was only using data that was available to me. If he does not have an option, Yanks can easily get a B+ prospect for him.

        • Bo Knows says:

          When has CC said he wants to go back to California? Was it after him saying he wasn’t going anywhere, after him reupping with yankees? Or was it before he said that how he and his family is settled in NJ and that he didn’t want to uproot them again?

          Also I never said that Cano wouldn’t draw any trade partners, I said your not going to get “a haul” for him because he’s a free agent, is going to command a ton of money and the new CBA doesn’t allow for teams to gain draft picks. Also who is going to trade for him, that even has the prospects worth getting? Are you going to Jedi mind trick St. Louis?

          I will repeat myself, it is f’n stupid

          • Oy says:

            And there are many reports that the LA teams were the favorites to sign and on top of him saying publicly that he proffered to stay on the west coast while being a FA in 2008. We can cherry pick and guess on CC’s reaction to a trade back to the region where he was raised but the argument won’t go anywhere.

            Oh, plenty of teams will be interested. St.Loius won’t be they have Carpenter, who’s having a better year than Robbie. Mike mentioned A’s as a fit in a chat a while ago and I fucking love the match. A package of Jaso/Choice/Gray would satisfy me greatly. Tigers are another fit. Maybe Kansas will break the bank.

          • Oy says:

            Ha, just realized that if they wish to upgrade from Walker, Pirates can go after Robbie. A package of Walker/Polanco/Hanson would interest me. An average/above average 2B who is under control until 2017 and two lottery tickets.

  129. WhittakerWalt says:

    Predictable Vernon Wells at-bat is predictable.

  130. WhittakerWalt says:

    4 runs is just WAY too many runs to give up if you’re a starting pitcher for the Yankees. It’s just not something this team can come back from.

  131. Fin says:

    Is it too early to call up Jagelo, Clarkin and Judge?

  132. Kramerica Industries says:

    Jim Johnson time!


  133. your mom says:

    Wow that pitch has a ton of sink.

  134. Winter says:

    Is either Gonzalez or Romine faster than Overbay? PR?

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

      No point. They’re down 2.
      I’m assuming Overbay is fast enough to score before a runner behind him could score.

  135. Dalek Jeter says:

    Loverbay won’t say die. Luckily we have Nix, Stewart, and Adams coming up here.

  136. SDB says:

    Woo hoo a lead off double! Someone drive that run in and put some pressure… oh wait, Nix, Stewart and Adams are up now.


  137. Kramerica Industries says:

    I can dig Kruk making Mitch Williams jokes.

  138. Tom says:

    This would be a nice spot to have a guy like Dan Johnson on the bench. While he sucks, he can at least run into one.

    But I’m sure that 2 options when you need to decide what long man to go to has more value.

  139. Kramerica Industries says:

    Thanks for your part of the tease, Nix.

  140. Dalek Jeter says:

    I’ve only been watching since the 7th inning, but if I hear turbo sinker one more time I will probably scream.

  141. WhittakerWalt says:

    Baseball player.

  142. your mom says:

    This is when the 3 man bench comes in handy.

  143. WhittakerWalt says:

    Listen to all those Orioles fans pretending they’ve been loud and loyal these past 14 or so years!

  144. SDB says:

    Way to take one for the team Stew. Well done.

  145. Dalek Jeter says:

    The HBP that turns the season around?!

  146. Anderson Silva says:

    puts the tying run on base = sets up the DP for a crappy hitter

  147. Winter says:

    OK. No double play. Please no double play.

  148. Wheels says:

    Can they do it?

  149. Anderson Silva says:

    Adams does not belong.

  150. Dalek Jeter says:

    2nd time the ump has bailed out an Oriole pitcher this game…that should’ve been ball 1 to Adams.

  151. your mom says:

    Aww fucking shit, that chant!!!!!

  152. Tom says:

    Gardner going yard here….

  153. Kramerica Industries says:

    And the Yankees now reside in fourth place.

  154. your mom says:


  155. SDB says:

    So this is the view from fourth place.

  156. WhittakerWalt says:

    “temper your expectations with David Adams”

  157. your mom says:

    Last place here we come!!!!!!!!!

  158. HateMclouth (formerly I'mVernon) says:

    I would have much preferred they go down without a whimper than have to deal with this stupid tease.

  159. WhittakerWalt says:

    Want to know what’s really sad? We scored 8 runs in this series, and that actually feels like a lot of runs for this team over a 3-game stretch.

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