Jun
20

Morosi: Manny Ramirez wants to return to MLB

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According to Jon Morosi, Manny Ramirez hopes to return to MLB after recently opting out of his contract with the EDA Rhinos in the Chinese Professional Baseball League. There have been reports of a possible opportunity with the Chiba Lotte Mariners in Japan, but Manny’s agent Barry Praver made it clear their preference is a return to MLB.

“The reason he decided not to return for the second half was to free himself to be available to play in the United States,” said Praver. “This whole thing with Manny in Taiwan was a phenomenon. He invigorated the league. Attendance went through the roof. It was a very positive experience for both sides. Manny was so invigorated by his play there that he wants to return to the Majors … Manny would be interested in returning to the Majors in any role, including that of a pinch-hitter.”

Ramirez, 41, hit .352/.422/.555 with eight homers and more walks (23) than strikeouts (21) in 49 games and 206 plate appearances for the Rhinos. The CPBL is roughly equivalent to Single-A ball. He last played in the big leagues in 2011, when he appeared in five games for the Rays before being suspended for a second failed PED test. The suspension was reduced from 100 games to 50 games, and he served it last season after signing with the Athletics. He asked them for his release before they had a chance to call him up.

I would be, unequivocally, in favor of the Yankees signing Manny. The offense is lifeless and for the most part they’re an uninteresting team and a bore to watch, something Ramirez would correct in a heartbeat. I think the Yankees would sooner bring Don Mattingly out of retirement though; I can’t imagine they (or any other team, for that matter) would go for it because of all the baggage. But man it would be fun. Give him the league minimum and see what happens. What’s the worst that could possibly happen, he hits like Vernon Wells and they cut him? Embrace the sideshow.

Categories : Hot Stove League

97 Comments»

  1. Adam says:

    Doesn’t he have to serve a suspension?

  2. mitch says:

    Maybe they could bring Barry Bonds out of retirement as well? He could probably still outproduce half the lineup without the bat even leaving his shoulder.

  3. Gerry says:

    Let Manny stay where he is. MLB doesn’t need the sideshow.

    • The Bastard says:

      Indeed. I never thought I’d read “Embrace the sideshow.” here. It reeks of just trying to drum up interest here on a lifeless day.

      Moreover, the Yankees have a DH-only. Manny certainly ain’t playing the OF.

      • Slugger27 says:

        I never thought I’d read “Embrace the sideshow.” here.

        you havent read the site much in 2013 then. logic, analytical perspective, patience, reason, optimism… it all left a long time ago.

        negativity and cynicism is the new norm.

        • LK says:

          That, and not hitting. Don’t forget that as part of the new norm.

        • trr says:

          C’mon slugger, I think you’re exaggerating. There’s plenty of good commentary going on here. I’m new the site this year,
          and I think it’s pretty good. Sure people get frustrated and vent, but that’s temporary…

          Myself I’m not a sideshow kind of guy, especially when it involves a washed up, has-been loafer like this bum

        • JobaWockeeZ says:

          What does optimism have anything to do with logic? What if I told you you can be logical and pessimistic or illogical and pessimistic?

          I’m glad Mike’s getting everyone mad over a few words. And it’s not like hateful words either. This is hilarious.

          • trr says:

            Me, I’m not mad at all.
            just don’t want Ramirez, otherwise I’m happier than Joba at an all you can buffet

  4. 28 this year says:

    I said this yesterday and I will say it again. Sign him. He can’t possibly be worse and I don’t even think the baggage is a problem. In fact, if the baggage distracts the media away from talking about how disappointing the Yankees are, maybe the rest of the Yankees can finally get their shit together while Manny is bombarded by the media. He can’t possibly make the team worse with Wells as our LF.

    • mitch says:

      The baggage isn’t a bad thing until he inevitably gets busted for PEDs the first time he’s tested.

      • JohnnyC says:

        They test for PEDs in Taiwan (and Japan and Korea)so I’m assuming Manny is clean right now (or is masking it successfully).

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

      It’s entirely possible he could be worse, especially factoring in the defense.
      Really no harm in trying though. If they can keep Ben Francisco as long as they did, they can survive giving Manny a quick look.

      • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

        David Wells is pretty close to a rock himself.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

          He is. But Vernon Wells is passable. Much more so than Manny.
          If they are going to seriously consider Manny, it should be as RHDH/PH, not as an OF.

    • Nat King Kong says:

      Saying he can’t make the team worse than Wells is kind of a given. It includes at least half the people on the planet. Manny can’t play left field in Yankee Stadium. We don’t need another 41-year-old dh.

      There are lots of trade options out there, corner outfielders with power who are actually playing in the big leagues now and aren’t 41 years old, who can actually play a position (or two!) and who don’t have multiple drug suspension baggage.

      And yes, there is something to lose by signing Manny. Time. Because if we sign Manny, we aren’t going to go out and get a legitimate option for the outfield. We’re going to take weeks giving Manny a chance to “show us what he can do.” And by the time he shows us that he isn’t really a legitimate player anymore at 41, or gets busted for HGH again, or both, we will be so far out of the race that it will be a moot point.

      He is another version of Vernon Wells. He is someone off the scrap heap we are reaching for in desperation. Haven’t we learned our lesson? Get a real ballplayer. Make a deal. Dump Wells. Ignore the ashcan solution. We are the New York Yankees, fercryinoutloud, not the Marlins.

  5. rek4gehrig says:

    I second that. Sign him.

  6. DERP says:

    Sign him. Plus he will have to cut his hair which is a plus.

  7. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

    The Yankees will never sign him. Which really sucks. But it is very much against Hal’s MO.

    Really, they’re idiots for not pursuing him.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

      Personally, I’d rather they concentrate on finding players who are likely to actually be good.
      I wouldn’t mind them giving Manny a look in the meantime though.

      • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

        Like who?

        Believe me, the whole WORLD is all for that. But he’s probably the best available option right now.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

          I’d actually rather Almonte get a full shot before I’d want to see Manny. Or Musty when he gets healthy. Or even Boesch when he gets healthy.

          • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

            Frankly I think they probably have the same chance at being okay as Manny. And Manny has the potential to actually be good.

            • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

              Not sure how many has any more potential to actually be good at this point. He hasn’t done anything good at the MLB level since 2010. Unlikely. And with the others, you at least find out something for the future.
              Don’t the Yankees already have too many guys on the roster because they used to be good and still have a big name?

              I’m fine with a MiLB deal. If he shows anything in AAA, give him a shot to replace Neal as the RHDH. Beyond that, it’s unlikely he’d be any better overall than what they already have, and he could very well be worse.

              • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

                *Manny, not many in the first sentence

              • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

                The Yankees have Wells on the roster because there weren’t a lot of options to take in the offseason, not because he was a big name. Otherwise, there’s Ichiro, pretty much. Who’s raking right now at least, for whatever that’s worth.

                Youkilis is another one that we took out of necessity when our third baseman went down with an injury. So I don’t agree with your premise. The Yankees have problems right now because no-namers are filling key positions, and they suck.

                • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

                  Wells, Ichiro, and Youk are who I was referring to – although Ichiro has been semi-useful.
                  The former big names suck as well, or are injured. If Vernon Wells was anybody with no name and the same numbers Wells put up the past 2 seasons, I doubt very much he’d be on the Yankees now. There were other 3B options other than Youk. The Yankees didn’t give him $12M just based on his performance last year.
                  And Manny is just as likely to suck as any of the no names or faded stars.

                • Nat King Kong says:

                  Wrong. They have Wells because they CHOSE to adopt an austerity budget (except for Ichiro) and then panicked when Granderson and Tex got hurt and Jeter reinjured himself.

                  They didn’t want to spend any money on free agents or trade for even smallish contracts beyond one year (again, except for Ichiro), so they chose to shop for bargains in MLB’s dumpster bin, rather than replace Swisher with a legitimate power-hitting corner outfielder, or replace Martin with a major-league catcher. Then all the injuries happened and they realized they had to do something more drastic.

                  There may not have been a lot of options in the offseason, but there were options that were far, far better than the corpse of Vernon Wells.

                  • Josh S. says:

                    “they chose to shop for bargains in MLB’s dumpster bin, rather than replace Swisher with a legitimate power-hitting corner outfielder, or replace Martin with a major-league catcher.”

                    Or they could’ve just re-signed Swisher and Martin

  8. hornblower says:

    This is a really dumb idea. I think the writer has lost his way.

  9. Andrew J. says:

    Manny is the kind of hitter who can be 45, wake up in the morning, get to the ballpark all groggy, and start raking the ball. He’s a natural born hitter who has something to prove. I guarantee you he would be a better bat than Vernon, Boesch, Neal or any of the other replacement parts we’ve been putting out there.
    Then again, raid the prospects and dump them in front of the Marlins dugout for Giancarlo.
    AJ

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      Raiding the prospects would be a surefire way to need guys like Manny the next three seasons as well, FWIW.

    • Nat King Kong says:

      “Manny is the kind of hitter who can be 45, wake up in the morning, get to the ballpark all groggy, and start raking the ball.”

      This is just a fallacy. He WAS that kind of hitter. Nobody in the history of the game has been able to “rake” at 45, unless they’re on PEDs.

      In 2011 for the Rays, he went 1-17. That’s Wellesian. He’s now two years older than that, and he was a horrible outfielder even when he was young.

      Let it go. The front office should spend their time pursuing trades for actual major league players. No more scrap heap projects!

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        “The front office should spend their time pursuing trades for actual major league players. No more scrap heap projects!”

        But they can’t…..do both?

        If you were to ask me, “yes or no, should they take a flyer on Manny,” I’d say “yes.” If you were to then ask me, “how much do you honestly care if they do or not?”, I’d answer “not a whole lot.”

        • Nat King Kong says:

          Well, sure they could, but given the way the front office has acted for the past year, I think it’s unlikely. If they sign Manny, they’ll hold off on getting a real option until Manny proves he’s another Vernon Wells.

          I’d much rather they spent their time and efforts working on getting some real ballplayers rather than going after some 41-year-old who’s effectively been out of baseball for two years.

      • Andrew J. says:

        Tell that to Julio Franco!
        AJ

  10. LK says:

    I’m in agreement with most people above. With this offense there is nothing, literally nothing, to lose.

  11. Robinson Tilapia says:

    I’d be all for it. There was a time where I was convinced both Manny and Ortiz would wear pinstripes before their career was done, and I’d long since given up on that sight/sideshow idea.

    I believe he can still turn on the right pitch. I’d enjoy the drama. He needs the haircut.

    We’ve got five outfielders right now trying to play the role of three. One could easily go back down and Manny could slide into a platoon with Hafner. He’d cost peanuts at this point.

    Most importantly, the pissed-off comment flow would be worth it in and of itself. “FIRST YOUK, NOW THIS. THE BOSS IS BOUNCING OVER IN HIZ GRAAAAAAAAAAVE.”

  12. The Bastard says:

    They should have pursued him when Duquette did. In 2001. Imagine Manny on that 2001 club. It easily puts them over in 2001 and 2003.

    Now?

    No chance in hell.

    • LK says:

      It depends. I think in a vacuum, you’re right, but supposedly they were deciding between Mussina and Manny. Subtracting Mussina and adding Manny might leave the ’01 and ’03 teams right where they were before.

      Really though, they should’ve just signed both.

  13. Slugger27 says:

    the team isnt boring enough to get excited about a geezer platoon DH (the short side of the platoon no less) … manny is 2000 and LATE. he hasnt been entertaining since family guy was still funny.

  14. monkeypants says:

    What’s the worst that could possibly happen, he hits like Vernon Wells and they cut him?

    The worst case scenario is that he hits like Vernon Wells and plays equally inept defence, but instead of cutting him, they make him the starting LF and even bat him occasionally in the cleanup spot. Like they’re doing with Vernon Wells.

    • Slugger27 says:

      i love the irony of mike saying that. the guy who hasnt shut up or stopped bitching and whining about vernon wells for a month says “whats the worst that could happen? he hits like vernon wells?”

      hilarious.

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        You have an easier time losing Manny than Vernon if he were to do that, though. You’re still on the hook to pay Vernon next year.

        • Slugger27 says:

          that wouldnt stop anyone from bitching or complaining about his performance. everyone would be over manny after about 15 mediocre at bats. his act was only funny back in the day because he was good. nobody cares about a goofy smile if you cant hit or be productive in any way, just ask nick swisher.

          hes broke, and willing to ask like a goofball in a desperate attempt for a paycheck and publicity with an MLB team. hes baseballs version of terrell owens.

          • t dizzle says:

            Gotta agree here. He’d be funny til his first 0-4 w 2 Ks. Then he’d be where Youk is now.

          • Robinson Tilapia says:

            Well, but they can bitch and complain all they want. That shouldn’t dictate what the team does.

            Also, this is Manny Ramirez we’re talking about. I care just as much about whether they sign him as I do whether he gets lost somewhere in China and shows up fifteen years from now.

      • Craig Maduro says:

        Yeah, pretty much. The worst that could happen is Mike beating another dead horse about another black hole in the lineup. It’s not a sideshow unless it’s funny or entertaining, something Manny hasn’t been since the Dodger days.

      • LK says:

        It’s ironic for someone to complain about something and then cite it as the worst case scenario? Is that not being completely consistent? If something being run out there everyday can be accurately described as a worst case scenario is it not worthy of complaint?

        • Slugger27 says:

          It’s ironic for someone to complain about something and then cite it as the worst case scenario?

          no, its ironic for him to be OK with manny and bitch incessantly about vernon wells, despite recognizing theyre likely to be the same thing.

          mike goes off on an embarrassing rant about how the teams offseason was a joke by signing over the hill veterans and expecting production, topped off by “get bent” (lmao!!!!) … follows it up with anothers week worth of complaining about old has-beens not getting it done, and then writes a post advocating signing manny.

          yes, its ironic.

          • LK says:

            “no, its ironic for him to be OK with manny and bitch incessantly about vernon wells, despite recognizing theyre likely to be the same thing.”

            I was unaware that “worst case scenario” and “likely” meant the same thing. I would imagine if Manny sucks as much as Wells and still gets to start in the cleanup spot 3 months later Mike would bitch about him, too. And he’d be right.

            If Mike were advocating Manny as Plan A to improve the offense after bitching about the offseason, I’d see some irony there. He’s not; he’s trying to throw some shit at the wall and see if it’ll stick to this offense that’s 27th in MLB in wRC+.

            • JobaWockeeZ says:

              How dare you insult the Yankees by citing their wRC+ rank. Obviously that study is flawed. Wells is a great hitter, look at his 10 home runs!

              Am I doing this optimistic with analysis thing right? This highly thoughtful piece of writing deserves to be on ESPN or something.

              • LK says:

                Heh. I guess I’m just doomed to be an irrational pessimist that sees their even run differential as cause for alarm.

                • Tom says:

                  Well stated.

                  The only thing that is “ironic” is Slugger complaining earlier in the thread about the lack of logic and analytical reasoning and then resorting to it.

                  Comparing Mike complaining and expecting production out of guys making a combined ~30 mil this year (Wells/Ichiro/Youk) to them signing a guy for probably the league min?

                  I’m sorry – where exactly is the logic and analytical reasoning behind that comparison? Different money, different timing (planned vs unplanned) and in some cases some were longer term plans (2 yr deals). Yeah identical stuff loaded with irony…

      • JobaWockeeZ says:

        I hope you ask him for a refund.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      I’m sure you’d be much happier if Thomas Neal or Zoilo Almonte were to bat cleanup.

      • monkeypants says:

        I would, in fact. At least until they prove to be worse. But Vernon Wells has been a disaster not just this year, but for three seasons, four out of five and five out of seven, and he’s 34. He is what he is…or worse, he’s getting worse. He’s awful. He should not be on any major league roster, let alone starting, let alone batting in the cleanup spot. Shite, he’s arguable the worst hitting starter right now, even worse than Nix (who at least get’s on base). If he must start, bat him 8th or 9th, where he belongs.

        He’s cooked. He’s finished. He’s passed on. Gone to meet his maker, pushing up the posies. He’s an ex-major leaguer.

        So yeah, I’d like to see Neal or Almonte or Gardner or possibly Nix or maybe even CC Sabathia batting cleanup rather than Wells.

  15. Mandy Stankiewicz says:

    Seriously?

  16. WhittakerWalt says:

    Manny’s always wanted to play for the Yanks. Give it a shot.
    What’s Mo Vaughn up to? (kidding)

  17. stuart a says:

    no thanks. not worth the tumult. he is washed up even worse then Wells and that is hard to do.

    yanks 2nd worse offense in the AL…Historically bad offense…we need granderson immediately….

  18. Darren says:

    Other than Chipper, who else did Cashman express interest in during the off-season? Troy Glaus? Is there anyone else out there better than Manny who might be worth a look?

  19. steve (different one) says:

    Does no one else find it infuriating that Manny’s sentence was inexplicably dropped from 100 to 50 games for absolutely no reason at all, yet the league is pursuing ARod for 100 games??

    ARod is no innocent, and probably deserves his suspension, but the RULES say 50 games for first positive, 100 games for second positive. Manny has 2 positives and gets 50 games, ARod has 0 positives and may get 100 games???

    Now, if the league has enough “alternate evidence” to suspend ARod, fine. But the first suspension is 50 games.

    This is nonsense.

    • Slugger27 says:

      thats life on earth man. perception is reality. it infuriates me that tony la russa can get a dwi and walk away after 2 hours in jail and a measley $500 fine. if i got a dwi it would ruin my life. but…. im not a celebrity.

      just gotta roll with it sometimes. people like manny. people dont like arod. thats just how life is.

  20. JLC 776 says:

    This is the best laugh I’ve had all day!

  21. Cuso says:

    Just don’t bother doing this.

    We may actually reek of desperation, but I’d prefer not to LOOK like we reek of desperation.

    …it’s a pride thing

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      Yes, but HE’D HAVE TO SHAVE. That’s more of a loss of pride than you will have to suffer.

    • LK says:

      Are we seriously worried about looking like we reek of desperation? They traded for Vernon Wells! I’m pretty sure they’re not fooling any other teams by playing it cool.

  22. JerryJRC says:

    How can any true Yankee fan want and root for Manny Ramirez in pinstripes?

    How rock bottom Yankees fans have hit!

    • bluesy says:

      oh c’mon now…Mike’s already got meat wrapped in fist chanting, Manny, Manny, Manny….the hordes will follow.

  23. mustang(The Has Been & Wannabes Bunch 2013) says:

    This and the post game thread to 66 have convinced me that Mike has been taken over by aliens.

    I mean seriously you been against almost every signing of anyone over the age of 35, but your OK with this clown.

    One of the reason being because the team is boring.

    Mike just gets some rest dude.

  24. hogsmog says:

    For me, early-2000s Manny was the most terrifying opposing batter I’ve ever experienced. The guy you do not want up if it’s late and close.

    Sign sign sign, at worst it is the same kinda fun we got with CMW.

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