Swept in Oakland: Yanks embarrass themselves in 18-inning marathon loss


This is the boiling point.

The Yankees didn’t just lose Thursday afternoon/night’s 18-inning marathon with the Athletics because they couldn’t buy a hit after the first inning. They also lost because they half-assed their way through an offseason in which they deemed it acceptable to downgrade all over the field despite a) winning the division by the skin of their teeth last year, and b) knowing it was very likely going to be Mariano Rivera‘s final season. Real nice going away present. That surfboard the A’s gave him today was more respectful.

New York has done a real good job of finding veteran complementary pieces on low-risk, short-term deals in recent years, but this winter it became their primary team-building strategy. It’s all they did. Best of all, they started giving some of those retreads multi-year contracts and assuming a whole bunch of risk. Vernon Wells has sucked SUCKED for the last two years and five of the last seven, but apparently the magic of the pinstripes was supposed to bring his bat back from the dead. He and Ichiro were expected to form some kind of Frankenstein corner outfield monster that defied age and hit like it was 2005. That was their strategy. A real Major League team did this.

Best of all, they’re paying those two wastes of a roster spot — not to mention Kevin Youkilis, what a gem of a signing that has been — a combined $26M through next year, when they’re trying to cut payroll below the luxury tax threshold for no other reason than to save the Steinbrenners some money. Want to slash payroll and line your pockets? Fine. But don’t talk to me like I’m idiot and say you’re committed to building a “championship-caliber” team and you signed “three of the best free agents” over the winter. Get bent. At least speak the truth, then maybe your five-year old Stadium won’t be half-empty and the YES Network’s ratings won’t be in the toilet.

Of course, the team’s reliance on over-the-hill has-beens could have been mitigated if the farm system Brian Cashman has been talking about since getting his “autonomy” in 2005 actually produced a competent everyday player once in a while. Eduardo Nunez? Frankie Cervelli? lol. I’m sure Zoilo Almonte will come ride in on a white horse to save the day. The Yankees have done a fine job talking the talk when it comes to building from within and developing their own players, but they’ve fallen flat on their face when it comes to walking the walk. Outside of the Mariners, I’m not sure any team has gotten less from more out of their farm system than New York in recent years.

The Yankees lost on Thursday because they’re desperate. Desperate to hold onto the last glimmer of success from the dynasty years and afraid (unable?) to adapt and move forward with a new chapter in franchise history. Now they’re left with this laughable relic of a roster that is caught between being not truly good enough to contend and not bad enough to completely tear down and rebuild. It’s a very dangerous place to be, just ask the Phillies.

The Athletics swept the Yankees this series because they are the much better team, from top to bottom. Now the Bombers will go to Anaheim to face an Angels team that should serve as a scary warning should they not wise up and improve the way they go about building the club. The decision to willfully downgrade the roster this winter was a disgusting display of arrogance and cockiness from a team that claims it wants to give its fans a contender every year. Actions speak louder than words, and the actions say the club lacks direction.


Categories : Game Stories, Rants


    • flamingo says:

      Not sure there’s any other response.

    • dalelama says:

      Welcome to the World of the Dalelama!!! Ridiculed and scoffed at by the fanatics until proven right and then everyone claims they were behind you all the time,

    • Scout says:

      Tell us how you really feel, Mike. Don’t hold back.

    • kenthadley says:

      Bravo. It’s been clear for longer than the last off season, when we all of a sudden weren’t competitive in IFA with no restrictions. This is the result of budget consciousness, and Hal has nobody to blame but himself for the empty seats, low ratings, and upset fans. Stop the BS and admit you adhere to the Mets business plan, Hal…profit over performance.

      • Stan the Man says:

        So being 8 games over .500 and in the thick of the AL East race and playoff race is a profit over performance issue?

    • Carp says:


      Dear New York Yankees,

      Here we are, for the 4th year in a row, watching a team that cannot hit the baseball.

      For the last three days you have been schooled by a team that does not have a single player batting .300.
      Yet, you continue to play a style of baseball that lives and dies by the glory of the home run. Your front office has lost it’s way, believing that home runs sell tickets, not championship teams. You continue to build teams around an approach of power is everything. You hired a hitting coach who’s only claim to fame is that he can instruct hitters to mechanically increase the poower of their swing. In doing so he has created players with robotic swings who cannot defeat a pitching/catching battery that can read a scouting report. Their predictability is undeniable. Their inability to hit with runners in scoring position, or, on base for that matter, is symptomatic of a hitting coach that cannot teach situational hittig because his approach is singular; force the pitcher to make a mistake over the heart of the plate and hit a home run.

      As a coach, i will tell you this; I will work my pitching staff day in and day out to make sure they do not make their mistakes over the heart of the plate, only off the plate. I will teach them to hit spots all day long with their fastball and teach them to use those spots to get strike one and strike two to force opponents to swing at junk out of the zone. I will teach them change speeds and throw high and low and inside and out. I will teach them to pitch quickly and not let the hitters catch their breath or out think them. I will teach them that swinging for power is a hitters own worse enemy and you can beat any team, even one that works the count, if you can hit spots and read a scouting report. This will force them to press the situation and swing at pitches outside the strike zone.

      As a coach I will NOT teach my hitters that there is only one kind of swing, I will NOT buy into the modern theory that a one diemsional swing can provide plate coverage. I will not teach them that everything comes from hip rotation generating bat speed. I always have, and always will, continue to teach them to step to the pitch aggressively. Stepping straight towards the pitcher only when the ball is over the heart of the plate. I will continue to teach tem to step TOWARDS the pitch on the outside part of the plate so they DO NOT commit their hips to roatate their bat right out of the hitting zone. I will teach them to “go with the pitch” and not try to pull everything. I will teach them the value of, and the timing of, hitting the ball behind the runner and to the opposite field. I will teach them that strike outs are bad and that hitting for high average is good. I will teach them to take the walk because you can’t score runs without base runners. I will teach them that their value as a hitter is worthless unless they are responsible for someone from their team stepping on the plate. I will teach them that everyone hits and that striking out with runners in scoring position is a bad thing. I will teach them that hitting the home run is the exception, not the rule and a well placed hit is just as valuable as a home run because EVERYONE can do it. They will not get a pat on the back for trying hard. They WILL get my promise that I will teach them how to avoid beating themsleves and how to avoid stranding runners from happening again. I will promise to teach them that the walk of shame back to the dugout is a bad thing and that I will put my heart and soul into nteaching them how to avoid having to endure that ever again. I will teach them that 3 hits out of 10 tries is NOT as good as it gets and I will teach them there’s always room for better.

      I will teach them that losing is not ok and trying your best doesn’t get the job done unless you practice twice as hard as everyone else to make your best better than theirs.

      You have lost your way, New York Yankees.

      You moan and whine over how you can’t hit for the players and you can’t throw the baseball for them. Yet, when you see the same thing happen again and again, you continue to use the same root strategy over and over again.
      You continue tio praise opposing pitchers and salute them with fervent hat tipping after losing to them when you should be angry at yourselves for letting it happen.
      You continue to teach them that professionalism is the end-all, beat-all of a good team. In doing so you let the opponents laugh at you when they put your players on the disabled list again and again by hitting them with pitches. You let Granderson get knocked onto the long term DL twice in one season and basically knock the heart out of a talented young player like Edwardo Nunez because no one comes to their defense. 56 year old Kirk Gibson charges out of his dugout to stand toe to toe with Mark McSteroid and The Yankees sit on their bench and stare while their players get plunked by pitchers over and over again. You claim to worship the likes of Munson, Mantle, Gehrig and Murcer while you tell your players over and over again that the thing that made those players great is counter to that which makes a player a great Yankee.

      You have lost your way, New York Yankees.

      You say it’s your duty to win a championship for your fans every year while your fans are mocked and made out as laughing stocks because their team has no heart- only professionalism.
      Well New York Yankees, you have indeed lost your way.
      This game is about more than just professionalism. It’s about heart…. and passion… and a desire to win that burns like fire in the bellies of it’s players. It’s about fun- ….and you have taken the fun out of the game; replaced by “professionalism” and tidy haircuts.

      You have lost your way New York Yankees if you feel that any one player is irreplaceable or that any one player cannot spark a team. You have lost your way when you think that the ego of any one player is more important than the ego of the entire team; continuing to play a player when replacing him increases your likelihood of winning the game.

      I feel sorry.
      …Sorry for the fans that scrimp and save for weeks to be able to take their child or their family to a game. Because, it’s not just the ambience of the park or the walk down memory lane through monument park and the Yankees museum. It’s about the energy that’s created by a team that scratches and claws and makes the game fun to watch. It’s about going to a game and knowing your son’s favorite player is going to give his all no matter what the score is or what the weather is doing or how much he’s getting paid. It’s about knowing that your son or daughter is going to learn a life lesson watching and feeling their hero play with everything he’s got. It’s about putting those players in a position where they can make a difference when it’s their turn to step up to the plate or to make a play in the field.
      I am saddened to see that a binder with a scouting report in it can defeat the highest paid team in baseball just about every time.
      I am saddened to see that The New York Yankees have lost their way.

      Greatness isn’t inherited- it’s earned.

      Good luck Yankees. You wont be seeing my Yankees Universe renewal this year. Not because the team isn’t winning…. but because they have lost their way and left their hearts at home.

      • Burn Girardi's Binder says:



        I applaud you for telling things the way they are. Bravo.


        Every dedicated and loyal Yankees fan.

  1. alexander the great says:

    why do you sugarcoat it? at least they didnt sign al soriano

  2. El Johnny D says:

    The best recap I’ve read. Ever. I applaud you for this, Mike.

    Hopefully this team realizes what needs to be done to improve the team after this season is over.

    • John says:


      Look, I don’t mind if they stink it up by blowing it up. Let me get a dirt-cheap 1991-esque ticket in, go enjoy a day out, not live and die with every game and enjoy myself. I don’t care if the park is empty. Go home and check the stats of the last day of our top-10 draft pick and hope.

      But don’t lie to me. Don’t lie to us. WE ALL KNOW IT HAS TO END SOMEDAY…we can handle it.

    • Steve says:

      The worst recap I’ve read. Ever. I laugh at you for this, Mike.

      You’ve become a whiner over the last year. They still have a $230 million payroll – this is what happens to teams that sign bad contracts and have big injuries. You can’t always throw money at the problem. At some point there has to be restraint. No I’m probably wrong – they should have just signed Josh Hamilton or something like that. Half-assed? Seriously? Mike, I know this is a fan site and all and emotions and fandom will come to the surface, but to say that professionals half-assed something or aren’t trying to further the organization is a joke. Did they make all the right moves? Probably not. But are you saying they all kicked back and worked 4 hour days? Have no plan (whether you agree with it or not)? Internet surfed their 8 hours away? Didn’t answer phone calls from agents/gms?

      My poor met fan friends would laugh at this recap. As a 33 year old I’ve been very fortunate as a lifelong Yankee fan and I think I could suck it up this year. Oh and the team is 8 games over .500.

      Great website (best fan site out there)…could just do without the whining.

      • Pat D says:

        I, uh, agree with everything you said.

        That’s a bit scary.

        • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

          Indeed. I was pretty disappointed in this. The jab about the farm system really made my eyes roll. Just ask Austin Jackson.

          • Brandon says:

            you’re a low life. get away with your midget whores crap

            • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

              It’s a funny name taken from an online RPG.

              I…uhhhh…okay then?

          • The Big City of Dreams says:

            It might have made your eyes roll but it’s the truth. Every yr Cashman pats himself on the back about how 10 Gms called about this guy and this player can help us this yr. No one expects stars at every position but where are some solid every day regulars outside of Brett and Cano? Hell they’ve been touting their pitching for yrs and we see what Hughes and Nova have been.

            • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

              Hughes has been an above average, contributing starter, and was a wicked bullpen force on a WS champion team.

              Also, Cano isn’t just a regular, he’s a superstar. He was arguably the second best, and definitely at least the third best, player in baseball last year.

              • The Big City of Dreams says:

                But Hughes is a back end inconsistent starter. Forget not being an ace he’s not even a reliable number 3 starter.

                • Stan the Man says:

                  Who gives a shit whether he is an ace or not. Every team needs 5 starting pitchers and Hughes despite his inconsistencies is a back end starter on the Yankees. He is behind CC, Kuroda, and Pettitte all pretty damn good pitchers. Hughes is a no. 2 or 3 on a lot of other MLB teams.

                  • The Big City of Dreams says:

                    If he is a number 2 or 3 on a lot of other teams it shows you how bad that team’s starting pitching is.

          • mac says:

            Ajax .703 ops, I hope you are kidding with this.

            Go back and look at the ML players developed since the 2006 draft.

            • Stan the Man says:

              AJax career line: .280 .345 .412 .757 but lets bring up his OPS in June of this year when he has only played in 34 games, makes perfect sense.

              • Cool Lester Smooth says:

                Try not to engage with the idiots.

                Obviously, it’s a bit hypocritical of me to say, but still.

          • Jack P says:

            If you don’t like the “whining” go read another Yankee blog, perhaps one that sugarcoats and rubs lipstick on the pig. Mike speaks the truth, the front office has been god awful, they try to charge us through the roof for tickets and put out a team full of dinosaurs. They think we’re stupid. I hate all these members on here who think they’re better than everyone else because they could careless about the shitiness of the team. You’re not better than us because you don’t care or appreciate raw emotion.

      • Bob Buttons says:

        Have to applaud your rationality and perspective in all this. Crap or not, win or not, paying money to fix a problem that was started by paying money to fix problems in the first place is not a good way to go. This is probably one of the better ways to go to not hamper the team a few seasons down the road while the old guard exits.

        Hey, at least we ain’t the Dodgers.

      • Brandon says:

        No, that post was fully accurate. You’re going to tell me that the Yankees did everything they could do to produce a champion. Hal and company ARE half-assing. They give us a garbage team yet don’t lower ticket prices. The Yankees are a disgrace to watch. I’ve been a life long fan and have never been so bored watching games. And the thought of wasting money on tickets? No thank you. The Yanks have been a true disgrace to watch. And George would be rolling in his grave. About 6,000 times.

      • Jack says:

        Poor Mike this guy has to root for the team with the highest payroll in baseball that is 8 games over 500. It is also worth noting that much of our struggles have had to do with the insane amount of injuries this year. Mike go root for the Mariners or Mets and get some real baseball fan problems you gigantic baby

      • Mark says:

        This is legitimate criticism when you’re asked to pay far and above what other teams ask for tickets. They have to reduce payroll despite the fact they’re the most profitable team by a country mile? It’s a joke. Nevermind the fact they let good consistent players like Swisher go, they’re player development has been an absolute joke. It’s not whining. It’s simple analysis

        • Jack P says:

          Don’t forget, the are still charging through the roof for ticket prices. Russell fucking Martin we couldnt even resign. This front office is a disgrace, they are going to sell the team soon and I can’t wait, maybe it will be a group of owners who actually care. Though I doubt that because it most likely will be News Corp, one of the top 10 evils in the world.

      • The Big City of Dreams says:

        He’s not whining. This isn’t I want a shiny new toy post every off season

      • Deep Thoughts says:


        It’s like the A-Rod and Teix contracts are total surprises, and the pile of injuries never happened.

      • Rev Max says:

        Awa, Awa. Crybaby RAB! Its June, half the roster is hurt. Hello!

        And to knock the farm kids, these ‘diehard fans’ who weigh in from their laptops everyday to critique the box score of a player they couldn’t evaluate in person, is pathetic. At least give them a season to adjust/grow/tweak something/mature before they are trashed..

        Third paragraph you use the word half full (re: stadium). That’s been the RAB view since before last off season, RABs taken the skeptic approach too far into crybaby land, nearer to Flushing than the Bronx.

  3. Ratatat says:


  4. pat says:

    At least season ticket prices are still reasonable… Oh wait

  5. Brian in MA says:

    Tell us how you really feel!

    this is why I’ve been consistently a 5-6 on the poll each week

  6. pat says:

    Anybody who thinks RAB is a YES/Yankees mouthpiece can look to this as a pretty resounding response to that notion.

    • LK says:

      I had the exact same reaction.

    • Slugger27 says:

      so can anyone who thinks its an enjoyable, objective analysis mouthpiece

    • radnom says:

      Except this is a complete 180, in support of pretty much every notion he has snidely mocked over the last several years.

      To those who have seen this coming from miles away, the idea that today for some reason is the “boiling point” is laughable.

      • dalelama says:


        • kenthadley says:

          Ditto. It’s ancient history, but I saw the same thing in the early 60′s when Topping cut the investment in the minors in prep to sell by the mid sixties. Not saying Steinbros are selling, but history is repeating itself here. Our rededicated minor league effort since 2006 really hasn’t provided any relief for the aging that was obvious even back then…and THIS year we draft a bunch of shortstops….really?

  7. Eddard says:

    Mike didn’t hold back any punches and I like it. Of course they could always go into Anaheim, take 2/3 and come out of the road trip .500. Let’s not forget the ineptitude in last year’s ALCS over 4 games and that was with the good guys.

    The problem is there’s nobody to replace these guys with. Adams cooled down. Grandy isn’t due back for a while. Overbay is a defensive liability. Nix shouldn’t be hitting 2nd ever. I liked how the As would pitch around Gardner, pitch to Nix and then pitch around Robbie. Way to set up the lineup, Joe.

    • JohnnyC says:

      The diminished attendance and plummeting ratings have very little to do with the issues Mike addresses in this post. Fans like offense and headline stars…both of which this Yankees team is miserably bereft of. If winning and being competitive (the team is still only 2 GB in the loss column) guaranteed fannies in the seats and eyeballs, the Yankees wouldn’t be having these problems. It is still in the final analysis for a majority of fans, entertainment. This team is not an attractive viewing experience. Not by a longshot.

    • Bob Buttons says:

      So who do you propose hitting second? Gardner is hitting quite well lately and by putting Cano second it’s a no-win situation for Gardner.

      • The Doctor says:

        How does this even make sense? If Cano’s batting behind Gardner, Gardner will see more pitches to hit and there’s a greater likelihood he gets driven in. I don’t see what part of that is a no-win situation.

        • Bob Buttons says:

          It was mentioned a while back by someone.

          Gardner on base, Robby at the plate.

          we all know Gardner’s value is partially built on his speed and him being a threat on the baseline.

          If he steals and is safe, they’ll obviously pitch around Robby.
          If he steals and gets caught, we get an extra out.
          If he takes a long time to steal, Robby has to take pitches, possibly pitches he likes, to accommodate Gardner.
          If he doesn’t steal, his speed goes to waste.

          So regardless of him stealing or not stealing one of him or Robby will not be able to exercise their entire skillset.

          • The Doctor says:

            I see what you’re saying, but it’s still the most logical setup. What else is there? As it stands, we can basically expect Gardner to lead off, Nix to make an out the majority of the time, and then we’re right back in the situation you mentioned with 1 less out. In the event that Gardner got on with 2 outs, our best hitter doesn’t even get a chance to drive him in.

            Who says Robbie HAS to accomodate Gardner? If he gets a pitch he likes and Gardner’s going, great, he’s guaranteed to take 3rd on a single and given Robbie’s XBH tendencies, he could score from first. There are more ways to use speed than just the typical stolen base, and this does not take any of them away from him.

            Gardner’s stolen only 10 bases this year and has still managed to accumulate 2.3 fWAR. This with Cano batting behind him for much of the season. The whole argument is moot.

            • Bob Buttons says:

              Not exactly moot since he may be able to get even more than that. They could bat him there until another viable option emerges, I’ll give you that.

  8. Rich says:

    Great, objective article. I completely agree with everything you said.

  9. BigGuy says:

    Bravo !

  10. DERP says:

    Nice post. I enjoyed reading it.

    Is this the game recap? I feel like Adam Warren deserves a shout out for his great performance, especially since he might be sent down tomorrow.

  11. CONservative governMENt says:

    Somebody call a Waaaaaaaambulance!

  12. Massparking says:


  13. trr says:

    Maybe….Maybe….this is the low point of the season, and we’ll all be laughing come Sept.

    Then again….

  14. AndrewYF says:

    We’ll look back at this rant one day and laugh, just like we can look back on all the other low points of the season that happen every year, but regardless, thank you Mike for providing a baseline.

    But it’s pretty hard to blame the failures on the offseason. They weren’t going to sign Nick Swisher for 5 years. They weren’t going to trade every single usable piece they had for Justin Upton, who, while his overall numbers look nice, you don’t want to look at his numbers until May 1st. Disaster averted. Should they have signed Victorino? To that contract? Yikes. It does suck that the Yankees had an obvious, gaping hole in RF, but that was really the only obvious flaw.

    No GM in the game is going to be able to react to the swath of injuries the Yankees have had to endure. I can’t even remember a team enduring this kind of plague all at once. In fact, I give the GM a whole lot of credit for getting the team as far as they’ve gotten. A low point of the season, and they’re still 2 or 3 (pending) games out of first? Really, not too shabby.

    Of course, the offense as it’s currently performing is a disaster, and the 18-inning embarrassment is as good a testament to that fact as any. But to get to this nadir, nearly every single possible thing had to have gone wrong with the offense. The only guy who could be said to be overperforming is Gardner. Each and every other player on the roster is now playing well, well below expectations. It’s hard to fault roster construction when the players simply aren’t playing even close to what even the most pessimistic system could come up with.

    The pitching won’t keep going this well. The talent isn’t quite there. But if things regress back to the mean, well, I’ll take the relatively small hit in expected pitching performance with the huge boost that the talent on the offense can produce.

    Again, thanks Mike. You said all the unreasonable things rattling around in my brain and caused me to react in a reasonable manner. Much calmer now. Zen.

    • Rich says:

      Nice response and I like this debate. However, one can argue the hitters they brought in are hitting to their potential and their earlier performance was an aberration. Cashman should be commended for showing lots of restraint, but what is his reason for giving Ichiro two years, Youk a one year deal, etc. he should also be commended for the development of this bullpen, but he should deserve hearty criticism for the lack of a) no everyday impact player (Gardner is the best developed position player) and b) no impact starters.

      • Bob Buttons says:

        I’d blame the scouting people and the farm people first. I mean, it’s unlikely Cashman have seen a lot of the players first-hand.

      • The Big City of Dreams says:

        , but what is his reason for giving Ichiro two years,


        We can blame Levine for that move.

      • Cool Lester Smooth says:

        Youk is absolutely NOT hitting to his potential right now. He has never been anything less than an above average hitter over his entire career.

        There was literally no reason for Cash to expect Youk’s wOBA to drop by 40 points over the offseason and, considering how slowly he started out last year, he’ll probably come around in a month or two.

  15. NeilT says:

    4-5-6-7 went 0-for-28 with 3 walks, a hit-by-pitch, and 12 Ks.

    A 4-5-6-7 that, by the way, is getting paid collectively north of $60m this year.

    At least Robbie is heating up. Pity there’s no-one to hit behind him, because the way things are going he’s going to get IBB’d every time he comes to the plate, slump or no slump.

    It’s a shame that such great pitching, HIROK! and Warren in particular in this game, has to get drowned out by the collective dross that was served up by Messrs. Teixeira, Hafner, Youkilis and Wells today.

    • DERP says:

      I kind of feel bad including Tex in that group. He had two of the walks and the HBP. He certainly didn’t have a great game, but it was much better than the other three.

      • NeilT says:

        I included him to make the figures look respectable?

        0-for-25 with 1 walk and 9Ks is almost a no-hitter split between just 3 players.

  16. John says:




  17. JLC 776 says:

    It’s just like when we sucked in Oakland last year, except this team really, really, truly sucks.

  18. Tim says:

    I agree with you and now they need to start making changes…First I would trade Joba to Atlanta and ask for Tyler Pastornicky back in return…Pastornicky is hitting .316 in Triple A and would be an upgrade over Brignac and it would allow Nix to go back to being the super utility guy…The Yankees are not resigning Joba and they are not getting a top 50 prospect back…Pastornicky is young (23) and isn’t arbitration eligible till until 2016…Now if she shows anything this year than maybe we have a decent replacement for Jeter.

  19. dkidd says:

    so you’re saying there’s a chance???

  20. dkidd says:

    brutal loss

    Adam Warren deserves to find a groupie and “provide some length”

  21. SDB says:

    Thank you for writing this.

    I am just livid with this team right now. Phenomenal efforts from Kuroda, Warren, and the rest of the bullpen, and the overpaid offense just crashes and burns. I lost count of the strikeouts with RISPs, especially when there were runners on third who could score with even some basic non-popup fly contact.


  22. JLC 776 says:

    This rant is perfect. I love it. This is why I haven’t cared about this team at all this year. They lose and I don’t think twice about it, I don’t lose a wink of sleep, and I don’t give two shits when someone at the office tries to bait me into a fight.

  23. Pat D says:

    Clearly Mike has snapped.

    I don’t know what to say.

    • Slugger27 says:

      the most hilarious part for me was the 3rd paragraph. some no-name blogger calling out the steinbrenner family about how to run their business. topped off by “get bent” …. LMAO

      its almost cringe worthy how bad this article is. from a guy im assuming is wanting positive exposure throughout the blogosphere, this one cant be taken back. a low point for axisa for sure.

      • Troll says:

        For fuck’s sake . . . and who the hell are you, pray tell? Clearly you’re the shit-all of the world . . . You, sir, are a bonafide twat.

      • The Big City of Dreams says:

        Should he have wrote an everything is fine recap?

        • Stan the Man says:

          He could have written a recap that makes actual sense. The team is 8 games over .500 and 3 games out of first place they are competing for a playoff spot again.

          • The Big City of Dreams says:

            True and there are also problems with this team now and moving forward.

          • Lurker says:

            The rallying cry used to be we’re in first place so how dare you criticize the team! Next we’re only percentage points out of first! Now it’s we’re 8 games over .500! I wonder what the rallying cry will be next. Let’s face it the imploding Indians and awful Mariners slowed the descent to fourth place and something a lot worse than 8 games over .500. The pitching has to be perfect or near perfect every game with the walking dead lineup they have now and it’s beginning to show cracks. I know this will piss people off but I’ll be amazed if they’re 8 games over .500 in 2 weeks.

    • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:


    • Bob Buttons says:

      Well Mike tends to be a tad more pessimistic than some others out there, and I guess all the extra pessimism built up.

      Of course I think it’s reasonable to assume that Mike reads baseball more than we do so he’s seen more negativity and more stern in his own views, whether he’s right or not.

      • Deep Thoughts says:

        Mike seems to forget that the season is a marathon not a sprint, and you can’t go bipolar over great wins or bad losses or 5-game streaks of either kind, because you have to take them all in stride.

        I say “seems” because I know he’s not dumb, far from it, and he has to generate a ton of unique posts every day.

  24. Austinmac says:

    Well said. They do really think we are stupid. We will see how smart they look when they lose a huge amount of income. Hal is a numbers man, you know.

    • Bob Buttons says:

      So I suppose Yanks fan will keep loving the team and accept them for what they are when they say “This year we will not try to contend, instead of focusing on rebuilding and bettering our situation for the future.” ?

      I think there are more fans who still stupidly believes the team is going full out contend mode and thus keeping their fandom than fans who revoke their fandom over being told lies.

      Again, baseball is a business, first and foremost. Are you ever going to hear KFC say “By the way, it’s much cheaper to eat at McDonalds, if you’re short on cash.” ?

  25. Erica says:


    The majority of our starting lineup IS the Old-Timer’s Day team. I’m just tired of this and tired of wasting my energy on the Yankees. I probably feel like this every season, and will probably echo these sentiments for the rest of my life. But there’s no reason to ever look like a joke when you’re playing the MARINERS, for Pete’s sake.

    • The Doctor says:


      They won 3 out of 4 against the Mariners. The only one of those 3 wins they struggled in was against Felix Hernandez, arguably the best pitcher in the game. If you meant to say the “ATHLETICS” well then I’d direct you to the various numbers which seem to indicate they are a very good team.

      What exactly are you on about?

  26. Austinmac says:

    That intentional walk and HBP really shows Tex is back.

  27. RkyMtnYank says:

    Well done Mike, thanks!!!

  28. jjyank says:

    …Yes, it was an ugly series. But holy hell Mike, this was over the top. I rarely call you out or even disagree with you, but this is the completely beneath the caliber of this site’s objectivity, sanity, and analysis. I’ve never been so disappointed in an RAB article.

    • Troll says:

      STFU. Good, you’re disappointed. Maybe now you’ll leave and never come back? Cool? Cool.

      • jjyank says:

        You’ve been O:S’d. Don’t respond to me.

        • Troll says:

          If only I knew what O:S meant . . . Oops, I responded to you :( I repeat, for the sake of this website, and behalf of every level mind here, GTFO.

          • Bob Buttons says:

            jjyank have more contribution than you have to this site’s comment section, barring game threads (since I don’t go there). And no, I don’t think he’s disrupting the harmony of the site much more than you are, with you calling out half the guys disagreeing with Mike.

            What makes RAB great is Mike and the guys can take some criticism and let some playful jabs between commentors pass, while maintaining basic civility and order most of the time. Pretty sure they can control the comment section without your helpful words.

            • Dingleberry Boy says:

              jjyank have more contribution than you have to this site’s comment section

              HAHAHAHAHA!!! I nearly crapped myself. Like contributing to a site’s comment section is a noble cause. You guys take yourself waaaaay too seriously.

              All of you guys take a deep breath and go for a walk. It’s just baseball and a baseball blog.

              • The Doctor says:

                Yes, it is a baseball blog. A very astute observation. It’s also one that we generally like to make a pleasant experience. When you can’t write a comment without some ass like Troll jumping in to make it a fight, it’s a lot less enjoyable.

                It’s not a noble cause, no one ever claimed it to be suck, but Troll has no right to be talking down to a well-liked member of these boards.

                • Dingleberry Boy says:

                  Troll has no right to be talking down to a well-liked member of these boards.

                  This stuff just keeps getting better and better. Who do you guys think you are? Is there some sort of fiefdom? Should I be made away of who and who can’t talk to? Should I walk five paces behind some others? Not make eye contact?

                  • Bob Buttons says:

                    I have no right to tell you what you say nor do I recall EVER seeing you around but I fully recognize your right to think whatever you want.

                    Nor do I really care what some guy I’ve never seen before thinks of my values. If you want to make it an unpleasant wasteland of hate, it’s not up to me to stop you.

                    • Dingleberry Boy says:

                      I don’t post. I had to tonight because this is gold. You don’t see the humor and the irony?

                      First, people take it too seriously. I’d say even more than the game, which is silly to me.

                      Then they tell people to lay off someone who has done so much in the comment section totally ignoring the fact that Mike is the reason there is a comment section!

                      Why don’t these guys say that Mike has too much respect to be spoken to this way? It’s gold Jerry, GOLD!

                      I think we know the answers to these questions though. Still funny.

                    • Troll says:

                      Where he lost me was the whole bit about referring to jjyank as a well-respected member of RAB . . . I swear that most of these guys treat the comment sections as a pseudo dating-site or friendship forum. If there’s one common thread amongst the dissenters tonight, it’s this: they all demonstrate severe, and possibly crippling, anti-social behaviors.

                    • Bob Buttons says:

                      Easy point. There’s obviously commentors that most people don’t particularly like, so obviously there are commentors that don’t do stuff that most people don’t particularly like, hence well respected.

                      Constantly telling people to GTFO, for example, ain’t something a lot of people take too kindly. Pretty sure Mike didn’t create a blog just to have a bunch of guys to agree with every word he says.

                    • Dingleberry Boy says:

                      Call me old school. No matter what someone has done in the past I’m going to judge his current actions and comments on just that, his current comments and actions. This serfdom nonsense is hilarious to me.

                      I’ve followed the website for a long time. I believe Mike said if he had full control of the site he would disable all comments on this site. He’s said Ben and Joe have always outvoted him on that subject, so I think it’s presumptions to say that Mike created it for healthy dissent in the comment section. You may have meant healthy dissent in other forms however.

                    • Bob Buttons says:

                      Your first point is something that is fair but I don’t necessarily agree. I’d like to think that behavior patterns exists and people generally don’t act differently out of nowhere. I’d like to give people benefit of the doubt if I’ve seen them behave sensibly before.

                      Your second point rings a bell to me, but not something I would recall completely. I have to concede that, since I didn’t recall any of that in the first place, but I do feel like I’ve seen that mentioned on several occasions before.

                  • The Doctor says:

                    Just stop. There’s a such thing as common courtesy. People who don’t understand and respect that are jackasses. No, the people who frequent the RAB comment boards are not special in some way, but they all deserve the right to say what they want without someone who, quite frankly, never adds anything interesting to the conversation.

                    You’re embarrassing yourself. You’re that guy at the ballpark screaming F-bombs to your douchebag wife-beater wearing friends and acting like a drunken moron, all under the logic of “I can do what I want.” No you can’t, the world doesn’t work that way. It’s basic kindness that you do not behave in a way that hinders other people’s enjoyment of something. This is especially true when you stumble into a group of people who enjoy each other’s company and start making it intolerable for all of them.

                    That is what I’m saying, and if you’re too damn stupid to process this, you’re a lost cause.

                    • The Doctor says:

                      Trailed off there… to the conversation ruining their fun.

                    • Dingleberry Boy says:

                      People deserve common courtesy and the right to say what they want to say except when you deem them a troll or write for the site. Is that right?

                      So people that are bashing Mike aren’t guys dropping f-bombs, but I am. Is that right?

                      You guys are so full of hypocrisy that I find it absolutely effing hilarious. I can’t point that out though because that would make me a monster. Gotcha.

                    • Cool Lester Smooth says:

                      I’m assuming the oxygen is thinner when you’re on a horse that high.

                      That’s really the only justification I can think of for your so vigorously defending someone, who always acts like an asshole for no reason, being an asshole for no reason.

                      That or you’re just an asshole yourself, or genuinely stupid, but I like to think the best of other people.

    • Jeremy Bonderman's Smooth Skills says:

      STFU, it’s a blog dude. This team has a lower wRC+ than the Astros. That should be enough to piss off any fan.

      • jjyank says:

        Yes, it’s a blog. That means I’m allowed to disagree with Mike’s post. What the hell is your point?

        • Jeremy Bonderman's Smooth Skills says:

          That it’s not just a series like you said. I thought that was clear.

          • Pat D says:

            Not really, you just pointed out the offense sucks.

            That’s not the only component of the game.

          • jjyank says:

            You apparently have some reading comprehension issues.

            • Jeremy Bonderman's Smooth Skills says:

              Pot meet kettle. It’s ok, maybe because you were so abstract and vague in your original post I missed your well reasoned counterpoint.

              • jjyank says:

                I’ll just refer you to Pat’s post above.

                • Jeremy Bonderman's Smooth Skills says:

                  You disagree with all of the post. It was an awesome offseason and this is a great team. Got it.

                  • jjyank says:

                    Nope. Again, reading comprehension fail.

                    And, might as well O:S you as well.

                    • Troll says:

                      Whatever helps you sleep at night.

                    • Jeremy Bonderman's Smooth Skills says:

                      Again, hyperbole to prove a point. I guess you are the one with the reading comprehension fail.

                      When asked to expand you said, “My opinions are pretty well known.”

                      Well, then let me ask you this, WHY THE HECK DO YOU POST ANYTHING? I mean, you are so well known that your opinions precede you, right? Why not just do your daily post saying something like this, “Y’all know where I stand on this.” Instead you just bashed away and when you get called on what you mean you bash that person or O:S them, whatever the hell that means.

                      I think you’re taking the loss harshly too.

                    • Will in NJ says:

                      People like you and Pat D are the reason blogs these days blow huge cock. Someone disagrees with what you said and you guys immediately post a youtube video or a gif that’s equivalent to a 5-year old covering their ears. God forbid someone doesn’t agree with you.

                    • Pat D says:

                      Actually I just post YouTube clips to tell people to shut the fuck up.

                      By the way, how do you know so much about blowing huge cock?

                    • Jeremy Bonderman's Smooth Skills says:

                      Wait a second Pat D, I thought you were a reasonable, upstanding, gentleman that was too genteel to engage with such ruffians?

                      Now this? I don’t know what to think.

                    • Troll says:

                      Agreed Will. They’re the ones bitching about Mike’s post taking away from the site’s legitimacy, but it is they who make it unbearable for people like us. In other words, jjyank, Tilapia, and the like are the type of people that you’d never want to associate with in real life. They’re miserable. They’re know-it-alls that know nothing at all. All we can really do is laugh at them and their utter futility.

                    • Cool Lester Smooth says:

                      And that’s why you follow them around, Troll? Because you have nothing better to do with your life than harass people on a blog, and then claim that they are losers with nothing better to do with their lives?

                      You’re just so, so cool aren’t you? I bet you were the best player on the JV senior year, not like these NERDS on their INTERWEBS BLOG!

        • Rolling Doughnut says:

          That Mike made a sound argument I think would be his point. Correct me if I’m wrong.

          • jjyank says:

            People aren’t allowed to disagree on a blog?

            That’s funny, because I was railed at for this very point in the other direction during the offseason. Can’t have it both ways.

            • Jeremy Bonderman's Smooth Skills says:

              Your disagreement to his post was this, “…but this is the completely beneath the caliber of this site’s objectivity, sanity, and analysis. I’ve never been so disappointed in an RAB article.”

              You didn’t get into any reason why it wasn’t objective, sane, or analytical. You just bashed. That sounds like the way trolls disagree to me.

              • Troll says:

                JJYank just got owned.

              • Pat D says:

                I would say just compare it to the average article this site produced on any given day from 2010-2012.

              • jjyank says:

                My opinions are pretty well known. I don’t feel the need to rehash them time and again. If you’re curious, you can ask. But I’m guessing you don’t care either way.

                It was an emotional post. That’s fine for a reaction, but I expect more from this site. We’ve had tough losses before without Mike losing his shit. I find this beneath him.

                • Jeremy Bonderman's Smooth Skills says:

                  So anyone that disagrees with you is completely beneath the caliber of this site’s objectivity, sanity, and analysis.

                  Got it! Troll away!

        • Craig Maduro says:

          The O:S is on the site after this one. Mike Ben and Joe taught me a lot about baseball, but at this point, I’m above this. I don’t find the site enjoyable or informative anymore. Simple as that.

          • Jeremy Bonderman's Smooth Skills says:

            Rational people usually don’t partake in something that doesn’t have positive utility for them.

            Use the mouse.

      • Bob Buttons says:

        That’s like saying one should be upset if his brother weighs less, despite living different lifestyles and being taller than his brother.

        • Jeremy Bonderman's Smooth Skills says:

          No offense dude, I’m really not sure what to make of this. Are you saying the Yankees are the taller one or the one that weighs less?

          I’m saying one brother (the Astros) is stronger (higher wRC+) and the one with the supposedly better lifestyle (the Yankees), should be a little upset about that.

          • Bob Buttons says:

            I’m just saying just like weight and height, there are other stats than wRC+ that determines how well a team plays. If you earn twice as much as your brother and your wife is nicer looking, are you really going to lose sleep over being out of shape compared to your brother?

            • Jeremy Bonderman's Smooth Skills says:

              If the wife is the playoffs and you’re not as much of a lock to keep her as in years past, yes, I would say that’s worth worrying over. Maybe not sleep….. yet.

              • Bob Buttons says:

                I’d be more worried about her sleeping with my boss (teams ahead in the standings) than with by brother or my neighbour, who is also less well off overall than me.

                • Jeremy Bonderman's Smooth Skills says:

                  That’s my point. I’d be worried she will sleep with my boss because I started looking like my short, poor lifestyle brother. You’re not worried about him. You’re worried that you’ll soon be hanging out with him and sleeping on a racecar bed!

                  • Bob Buttons says:

                    My point is that starting to look like won’t concern me just yet. I’d start worrying when more differences between his life and mine are gone. Yanks are still superior in some stats so I’ll worry when they trend closer.

    • Bo Knows says:

      I agree fully with everything you’ve said.

      I don’t always agree with everything Mike says, but I can usually say I respect or understand what he rights. I honestly don’t feel that way about this article.

      Yes the team should have resigned Martin because he’s the better than anyone of the current catchers (though that isn’t a high margin, and Martin wasn’t exactly elite himself last year)

      The Swisher thing sucks, but by your own admission you’ve voiced loud opposition to the team giving out anymore big contracts to aging players. Even if they didn’t go that route what were the alternatives? Justin Upton is the favorite but everyone knew the word was that the D-Backs wanted infielders specifically a SS prospect.

      Also on top of this the injuries, how many teams have the number of injuries the yankees have had this year? Not many, and those that have all have losing records except them. Its impossible to plug all these holes though the Yankees have done a great job in trying.

      We have been spoiled, we have never had to suffer an average let alone a shitty team in close to two decades. Even now, the team still has a winning record yet we still bitch that its not up to the standards of past teams. That may be true, but you know what? This is something all the other teams in the MLB deal with on a seasonal bases. Bad years happen, they will always happen eventually the Yankees have been able to fight it off for nearly two decades but it was bound to happen. Although if this can be considered a bad season, I’ll definitely take this over what the Dodgers, or Marlins, or Astros are dealing with.

      This needs to be said to the trolls messing with jjyank or any trolls that want to comment to my comment, FUCK YOU! This is a blog everyone has the right to their opinion as long as its done in a mature manner.

      • Bob Buttons says:

        You really do know. Well put.

      • jjyank says:

        I really appreciate this comment. I have voiced my opinion about re-siging Swisher (in favor of), Martin (in favor of), Ichiro (not in favor of), etc. I feel like I’ve been posting long enough that I don’t need to rehash it over and again to some troll on a recap thread. You’re second to last paragraph is right on target. The outrage over a team that is 3.5 games out in June, right in the mix if contention (despite the insane diversity), after an amazing run of success, is absurd.

        • Dingleberry Boy says:

          insane diversity

          That’s why they brought back Ichiro and Kuroda. That doesn’t explain Russell Martin. Isn’t he like multiple checked boxes?

          Sorry, I am finding humor in all this even though I know I shouldn’t.

  29. Jeremy Bonderman's Smooth Skills says:

    Kill Bubba, KILL!!!

  30. Troll says:

    Bravo! Encore, encore!

    More posts like this.

  31. Robinson Tilapia says:

    OK, Mike…..maybe it’s time you consider having Matt type up some game threads. This is fine from commenters on bad game threads, but it’s not fine from the site owner of a place that’s prided itself on multiple opinions and honest, stat-oriented analysis. I…..even feel slightly embarrassed reading this.

    Just wow.

    It’s a fucking sport whose decisions and outcome you have zero control over. It was about a shit a game as I’ve ever watched as a Yankee fan for close to 30 years, and it’s over now.

    • Troll says:

      You and JJYank, do us all a favor and GTFO. Seriously, you guys, just . . . suck.

      • Bob Buttons says:

        Because we all know how much of a delight you are.

          • Bob Buttons says:

            Not sure about you but I enjoy hearing opinions from both sides. I mean, it’s much easier to gain perspective and people voicing different opinions sometimes do bring up good points. Someone once said something about the world having no blacks and whites, just shades of gray, so what’s so bad about seeing all the shades of gray, if you are bored?

    • RkyMtnYank says:

      Really? I feel this is both an honest opinion and stat oriented of not just this game but the current state of the team and what can likely even be salvaged at the deadline. A post like this was long overdue!!!

    • Jeremy Bonderman's Smooth Skills says:

      Check out the stats. Only the stats that back your view can be used. This team is not very good right now. It’s his blog and he wants to rant. The door is to the right.

      I’m sure Mike could care less if some schmuck that comments on every one of his posts is embarrassed forhim.

      I’m embarrassed for you that you are embarrassed for him.

    • Craig Maduro says:

      Embarrasing indeed. MIke probably already regrets it.

      I honestly hardly ever comment or read the site anymore because the quality is just down the drain with only one (constantly negative) opinion. But if this isn’t symbolism for how far this site has fallen from grace from the glory days, I don’t know what is.

      • RkyMtnYank says:

        So what wonderful amazing site do you visit now? I am really curious because I haven’t been able to find one that is any different.

        • Craig Maduro says:

          As far as baseball blogs, it’s really just Fangraphs for me.

          • Jeremy Bonderman's Smooth Skills says:

            So just facts? How about this fact, the Yankees have a worse wRC+ than the Astros.

            • Bob Buttons says:

              How about this fact? Yanks are still 8 games above .500, Astros 10.5 games under .500.

              • Jeremy Bonderman's Smooth Skills says:

                See! We can actually discuss facts on the comments section. How about that? We don’t need to bash and provide nothing like some others.

                You are well ahead of some of these other guys.

                • Bob Buttons says:

                  Helps that I’m in-between the factions so I’m not too upset over either viewpoint.

                  • Jeremy Bonderman's Smooth Skills says:

                    I think that helps too. Too many people assuming too many things on here. I’m not counting you.

                    • Bob Buttons says:

                      Most of us here are Yankees fans. Hard to see people not upset after a marathon disappointment.

                    • Jeremy Bonderman's Smooth Skills says:

                      Absolutely. I wish people shared your attitude.

                    • Bob Buttons says:

                      Oh a lot of people will come to their sense after a good night’s sleep. Some venting after the pathetic display for the past few days are good for the mind.

      • Troll says:

        Who are you people? Subjective homers who can’t the forest through the trees? And, if it weren’t enough to appease you tight-ass whiners, he concluded the entry with “/rant”. This is his job, this is his blog, this is Mike writing a majority of the pieces . . . He can do whatever the F he wants, and that includes a well-timed rant that any true, honest, realistic fan wanted and expected.

        • Rolling Doughnut says:

          It’s not even a rant. It’s just pointing out the shortsightedness, the offseason fuckups and blunders by the FO. Out lineup is shit, for the reasons Mike has blogged. What’s the issue here?

          • Troll says:

            I see no issue whatsoever. I’m glad he mentioned what we’ve all been thinking. This offense is going nowhere fast and it seems that the front office is perfectly content with that.

    • Rolling Doughnut says:

      I don’t agree. Mike’s commentary was less about the game and more about the big picture of FO blunders. I think he made a strong argument.

      • Rich says:

        What did you want him to say that has not been said for weeks already. Hafner can’t hit anything, Wells blows and Youkilis looks lost at the plate. This offense is in early 1990s level, and if it wasn’t for our pitching, we would be swimming with the Blue Jays in last place. Plus if you have read this blog the past few weeks he has backed his theory on the offense with stats. Part of being a credible journalist is to critique the team as well.

    • SDB says:

      R-Til, I admire how calm and reasoned you can be after this. Maybe if I watch baseball that long, I’ll learn to have that sort of perspective too.

      But I’m just frustrated after following this game, seeing Kuroda pitch a gem, Warren blow away my expectations and so many opportunities go up in smoke. And I agree with a lot of what Mike’s written, so I do find this some what cathartic.

      Of course, now that this is up on the site, Wells will probably spark into form playing another former team of his tomorrow, and Youk will suddenly remember how to hit the cover off a ball. And then we’ll hail this for being a fantastic reverse prediction.

    • Steve says:

      You can get your refund at the door /meme’d

    • mustang(The Has Been & Wannabes Bunch 2013) says:


      100000000000 TIMES!!!!

  32. ClayDavis says:

    Everything about this organization right now is just so dull. From the boring/ terrible lineup to the zero personality corporate concrete blah that is the new Yankee Stadium. God forbid you cheer loudly (though not a recent concern) or heckle an opponent. Security has a very strict no fun having policy.

    Meanwhile Oakland has a gritty and young team. Decent prices. Fun promos like the Grant Balfour gnome. What do you get at the Yankee games? A shitty hat with a giant logo on the back? Just so meh..

  33. Slugger27 says:

    an embarassing article. you cant run from this one, mike. youve never sounded less intelligent

    • The Big City of Dreams says:

      How is it embarrassing? I could understand if he said this team needs to spend like they did in the early 2000s. He’s just calling the FO out for their bullshit.

  34. OldYanksFan says:

    From SG at RLYW:

    “If I did my math correctly, Travis Hafner, Kevin Youkilis, Mark Teixeira and Vernon Wells made a combined $345,769 for this game. And they rewarded that money by going 0 for 28 and leaving 20 runners on base.”

    From Wallace Matthews:

    “Vernon Wells, who had a horrendous day at the plate (0-3, 7 Ks)”

  35. Laz says:

    Didn’t have a problem with their offseason. The problem has been injuries to Granderson, Cervelli, Youk, and Jeter. No one has an obp over .350.

    • Jeremy Bonderman's Smooth Skills says:

      It’s almost like relying on injured or injury prone players wouldn’t backfire. I’m not counting Grandy since he got hurt in ST.

      • Cool Lester Smooth says:

        Since when is Cervelli injury prone?

        Although it was stupid to rely on him anyway, since he sucks.

    • Rolling Doughnut says:

      When Granderson, Jeter, and Cervelli return, it won’t solve the problem going forward. Granderson will hit 15 to 20 HR and strike out 130 times, Jeter’s range is shot and it will be worse with the type of injury he had, and forget about DHing him. ARod better start juicing again (if he already isn’t) otherwise he is unlikely to do much. And Cervelli? hardly a superstar. They need to rebuild. Mike is right, you don’t do it by half-measures. You either do a tear down job or open the checkbook big time.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

      There’s a strong likelihood none of those players would have an OBP over .350 either.

      • Cool Lester Smooth says:

        If Youk was healthy and not playing through a back injury? I’d expect an OBP of at least .340.

  36. The Real Greg says:


    And well warranted too.

  37. emac2 says:

    You have to admire the ability to even space the guys that can hit through the lineup so you don’t have to worry about getting more than one guy on base per inning.

    The idea that right left right left is more important than good hitters being bunched is old and tired.

  38. James Arnold says:

    Nice response to the Yankees current business model of peeing on the fans’ boots & telling us it’s champagne…and REALLY fancy champagne that costs hundreds of dollars a bottle!

  39. Marty Spinner says:

    Thank You, Mike, for writing what I’ve been thinking but lack the skill to articulate on paper.

  40. Chris RU says:

    This recap made me hard

  41. Joe says:

    I posted this on another blog, but this needs to be brought up.

    Yankees really need to go back to the drawing board as far as player development. Start developing more hitters like Allen Craig. Start looking at what the Cardinals are doing. Allen Craig isn’t a superstar by any stretch of the imagination, so this excuse that the Yankees can’t develop players because they pick at the bottom of the draft every year is nonsense. You can find an Allen Craig player in the draft, the problems is when you have Cashman who is only hell bent on superstars in the draft you can see why they fail so miserably at player development. Even when they are fully healthy I dismiss so many of these guys, because they’ll always figure out in the end against elite pitching in a big spot to get themselves out. Everyone brings up sabermetrics, well the sabermetric that needs to be used more is F-Strike% or first pitch strike %, this gives a better gauge at what a hitter is going to do in a particular count and provides a better assessment as to whether this patient hitting strategy at the plate is really all that is cut out to be. If you want to learn more here is an article http://www.hardballtimes.com/m.....-part-one/

    Let me give you an example as to why this sabermetric needs to be looked at deeper. Curt Schilling in the 2001 season had hitters hit 421 when they put the first pitch in play. In contrast when hitters too the first pitch for a strike, hitters hit 171. Forget about sample size, because unless more hitters make more of an effort to swing at the first pitch, they will continue to operate under the assumed but not proven assumption that being patient works. It’s a different animal taking strike 1 right down the middle and working the count only to make an out. Missed opportunities are never taken into an account in an at bat. So when Youkilis fouled back a pitch right down the middle with the bases loaded, that wasn’t taken into account as a missed opportunity.

    • Chris RU says:

      They just drafted, with their first pick, someone who fits that mold you want..a more polished college bat with a lower ceiling…breaking normal tradition.

    • Matt DiBari says:

      Someone thought Cito Culver was a superstar?

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

      Nobody ever said taking strike 1 right down the middle to work the count was a good idea.
      The point is to wait for a good pitch to hit. If that comes on the first pitch, swing!
      I’m really not sure how you can watch this year’s team and say that being too patient is a problem.
      Swinging at good pitches to hit works. (at least better than the alternative)

  42. wilcymoore27 says:

    Wow, now that really WAS a rant! #BoilingPoint

  43. Tiz71 says:

    Have to say I agree with mike 100%. I think this is more about the Yankees thinking fans are stupid. The one thing I agree with Hal about is when he said you don’t need a 200mil payroll to win a World Series. But the problem is that when you look at all those teams that won with a low payroll they have minor league players coming up and making a difference. The yanks don’t have that. This team is a mess right now. Especially with all the injuries. And I’m not sure what they can do about it.

    • TomH says:

      Hal is right: a $200 mil payroll can’t guarantee a World Series ring. But it can pretty much guarantee annual entry into the post-season, where they may be the team that suddenly gets hot and wins it all. In the world of post-season baseball, that’s about all you can guarantee, and it takes $$$,$$$,$$$ to do it.

  44. Buhner's barber says:

    You can’t complain that the yankees didn’t sign more espensive free agents, and than point to the angels as something not to do.

    • Kramerica Industries says:

      I think the Angels example is to highlight trying to hold on to an over-the-hill team too long.

  45. Bob Michaels says:

    Thia is the worst yankee team since the World war 11 circa 1945.
    The Steinbrenners should sell the team.

  46. FEED.ME.MORE! says:

    Tell us how you really feel, Mike.

    I’m sure Russell Martin and Swisher would’ve saved the day for you….

    Seriously, no GM could patch this many holes.

    Not having Cervelli, Granderson, Jeter, Tiex for almost 2 months, and the corpse of Youk has to hamper your teams offense. IDGAF who else you got.

    Now, signing Ichiro to a two year deal was nuts, I totally agree. But I can’t get mad at Cashman for the lack of offense. There is not this bottomless pit of talent on any team.

    Wells wouldn’t be here if Granderson didn’t get hurt.

    On the farm system, you can’t have it both ways. You can’t want to win and win at all costs, then bitch and moan that the kids aren’t great. Where were the kids gonna play? You traded Jackson for Granderson and Montero for Pineda. You wanna do those trades over? Cervelli (who you laugh at) was playing pretty well and has been a decent hitter since he came up. Gardner plays well. Cano is a great player. Yet you still wanna cry about the farm system?

    Almonte might not save anything, but he, or Neal, or Mustelier, or Mesa would be better than Wells. You can’t hate the veterans, then hate the kids behind the veterans who you’d never let play because they aren’t top 100 prospects.

    It’s a bad series. We have a bad offense. Have your rant, then move on. Stop di bloodclaat cryin.

    • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:


    • Brian S. says:

      Touting Gardner and Cano as Yankee farm successes doesn’t really work in 2013. Cano came up in 2005 and Gardner 2008.

      • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

        Mike talked about the state of the farm since it went under Cashman control in 05′. So Gardy and Cano are fair game.

        • Troll says:


          • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

            Of course, the team’s reliance on over-the-hill has-beens could have been mitigated if the farm system Brian Cashman has been talking about since getting his “autonomy” in 2005…

            • Troll says:

              If Cano came up in ’05 and Cashman gained autonomy in ’05, then Cano should not be credited to Cashman, right?

              • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

                Fair point. I’ll concede.

                Can we give him Jackson yet, or is it too soon?

                And if it is too son we can’t leave Montero off the table either, on the flip side.

                • Troll says:

                  I remember following AJax for a while. My guess would be that he was drafted and possibly developed before ’05 . . . That’s what my memory seems to tell me.

                  • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

                    Drafted and signed in 05′. He slips in right at the start.

                    • Troll says:

                      Ok, but he still traded him away . . . That trade hurt me because AJax was my first prospect crush. Then, after seeing Jesus mash a long bomb in Anaheim, he proceeded to hand his ass off as well. It’s that reason why I probably haven’t attached myself to any prospects since.

      • FEED.ME.MORE! says:

        But they are two players who you don’t have to find/develop replacements for. They are your players, so they have to count if you are gonna piss and moan about the farm not developing everyday players/cornerstone players.

  47. The Pope says:

    I told you all a few weeks ago this would happen.

    The mighty Mike Axisa, the last man standing, has lost it.

    There’s no Ben or Joe to prop him up anymore. It doesn’t even seem like much fun to him.

    Do you remember, Mike? Do you remember when your threads were one hilarious moment after another?

    Do you remember ENJOYING interacting with your readers? Remember when they wrote columns for you, not because you begged them, but because they were fans who loved to study the New York Yankees?

    Do you think they’re gone because this team is losing? No, Mike, they left far before that.

    What do you see now? Are you proud of the most vocal members of your readership? Is it fun to answer their questions in the chats? How long before you outsource those fully to Matt?

    Is the money that good, Mike, that you continue to do this long after the others left?

    Imagine a Yankee fan looking for intelligent conversation, searching through Google. Imagine if this was the first column they found. Would they stay, or would they go somewhere else?

    Maybe CBS is a better paying gig.

    Steve Lombardi, Mike. That’s who you’re becoming. Steve Lombardi.

    Steve Lombardi.




    What a sad sight that is.

    You once had TSJC. Now you have Troll.

    • Pat D says:

      Being compared to Steve Lombardi is a pretty big insult.

    • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

      Geez dude. This was one post. For the most part he still has excellent analysis, and the updates he has on a daily basis is incredible.

      TSJC left because he had a kid. He wrote guest articles because that was, really, his thing. If I thought I had something worth writing I’d volunteer a guest article in a HEARTBEAT.

      Yeah, now we have Troll. So? We had some TERRIBLE trolls around in 09′. That hasn’t changed.

      The readership is still huge and loyal, and the site still gives a ton of quality content. That Mike had been dour, and that this game made him snap, doesn’t change that.

    • Troll says:

      God damn right he has me, and he’s had me for the past five years, long before the name was “Troll”, a handle I wear with honor no less. STFU you whiny . . . . Meh, it’s not worth it. You don’t like the site? Go away.

      Also, what’s with the constant lionizing of TSJC. From what I remember, he was an arrogant twat on par with Tilapia. You guys are delusional and . . . weird. Fudge, I hope Mike is still fuming and bans you li’l bitches for eternity.

      • Bob Buttons says:

        Because we all know how honorable a man constantly calling fellow commentors “twat” and “bitches” in serious manners and continues to tell people to GTFO on a site he doesn’t own.

        I pray thee sir, that you will invite us when the Queen knights you.

        • Troll says:

          I’m American, “twat”.

          • Bob Buttons says:

            You don’t say? I thought the concept of nationality did not apply to trolls.

            • Troll says:

              I did. I said it. That’s pretty racist, by the way, to assume that all trolls are alike, born of the same blood under the same bridge in some random corner of the globe with a -stan at the end of it.

              • Bob Buttons says:

                So… you’re telling me that trolls are just like any other human group, taking pride in their traditions, nationality, birth place, practices and language?

                Boy, have I learned about misconceptions and misunderstandings about trolls. You sure taught me a lot today.

  48. Murph1010 says:

    This one was hard to read. I felt bad for MIke by the end of it. God this site sucks now.

  49. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

    Mike: Have you seen the amount of injuries we’ve had this year?

    I don’t care how old you are, the number of injuries we’ve had is unreal.

    Cano is in one of his epic slumps. Then for a month he’ll be the best player in baseball and we’ll forget all about it, like every other year. That’s a big part of this – and another is that Tex just came off of the DL.

    We’re 8 games over 500 and, what? Two games behind the Sox now? Maybe three? And with our offense, after our injuries? We have done a HELL of a job thus far, and you’ve been whining about it all year.

    Well guess what? They lost a frustrating game. It happens. Now look at the big damn picture and look at what we’ve accomplished, because it is EXTREMELY, extremely impressive.

    • jjyank says:

      I agree 100%. We’re 3 games back in the loss column, and this post makes it sound like the Yankees ate 10 games under .500. Will they make the playoffs? Maybe, maybe not. They still have a shot. They’re 3.5 games out of first place in June. Holy hell, people.

      • The Real Greg says:

        They are currently playing like a team that is 10 games under.

        • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

          So what? Teams go into slumps all the time. They’re not as good as they were in April and not as bad as they are now.

          That’s the thing. Let’s look at the BIG picture, and when you see a team three games behind first place after how badly we’ve been decimated with injuries, 8 games over 500, that’s damn impressive.

        • Troll says:

          Greg with the straight-up truth!

        • jjyank says:

          But we aren’t yet. Don’t jump off the bridge when where 3.5 out in June. That’s all I’m saying.

        • FEED.ME.MORE! says:

          Every team that has a bad week or series should be gutted and sold off for spare parts.

          Excellent Management strategy……

        • Pasqua says:

          But they’re not. See how that works?

  50. B the Cashman says:

    Best post I’ve ever read on here.

  51. Jacob the OG says:

    Even if you do not agree with this rant you have to at least understand where Mike is coming from. SAY IT WITH YOUR CHEST PEOPLE!

  52. Cuso says:

    Hahaha! That was the best ever, Mike.

    Good for you.

  53. The Pope says:

    Steve Lombardi.

  54. Blake says:

    This read like a fan rant. The problem was that ever word of it was dead on true.

  55. Chelo says:

    Axixa out……Agree 100%

  56. WFAN Caller says:

    Getting “upset” with a top-notch blog over a “rant” that is clearly the result of watching the Yankees slip on banana peels and split their pants for three days straight is just stupid. You know who takes everything seriously? The writers at the NY Post. They seem as “hip” as a pair of sweatpants. Go over and read them for some hard hitting analysis, most likely featuring awesome headlines like “NAY-ROD: Alex Rodriguez buys a horse!” and “EL CAPI-TAN: Derek Jeter spending too much time in the sun?”

  57. Dalek Jeter says:

    Mike, this is probably a article you’re already regretting, but you’re not absolutely wrong. The team had a horrendous off season, and it’s coming back to bite them in the ass….but let’s get serious for a moment. They aren’t 10 games below .500, they aren’t 5 games below .500, they aren’t 15 games back of the division. It’s June 13th and with a line up that has included the corpses of Pronk, Wells, and Ichiro as well as “never-was”‘s like Overbay and Nix they are 3.5 games behind the Red Sox and tied for 2nd place in one of the toughest divisions in baseball. Meanwhile, the farm has produced Phelps, Robertson, Claiborne, Nuno, Warren, Gardner, and to a much lesser extent Nova in just the last few seasons. Meanwhile going into the season K. Law rated the Yankees the 10th best farm system in all of baseball, and 5th best in the AL.

    Now all that said, I’m not saying that we’re a world series contender as presently constituted, nor am I saying that the team is set for the next decade with a solid stream of talent coming from the minor leagues….just that maybe have a little faith in the front office that has missed the playoffs exactly once since 1996. The season is still pretty young, maybe they make a move for a corner outfield bat, maybe Ichiro dies in a plane crash I mean breaks his arm I mean gets cut…who knows. In the meantime it is just a game, that we get far too worked up sometimes for, and I think this is just a case of you being fed up with some crappy play and crappy decision making but you’re nowhere near as angry as this post comes across.

    • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:


    • hunter says:

      Robertson and Gardner I will give you are regulars. The others have barely gotten their feet wet. If they can sustain it for 2+ years we will call them good picks by our front office. Judging from the track record in the last 13-14 years cannot be too optimistic. It seems scripted, the league “figures out” each one of the starters and relievers in their 2nd/or at best third year.

    • Rolling Doughnut says:

      Note the farm, except for Gardy, has really produced only pitchers, which is why we have the corpses of Pronk et al. not gracing the basepaths. Giving obscenely long and expensive contracts to former stars now in decline has been a substitute for recruiting young talent. A blunder which has resulted in the current state of offensive affairs. And it’s really offensive.

      • FEED.ME.MORE! says:

        But that has been going on for over 40 years, since George bought the team. You can’t all of a sudden be pissed off that the franchise over pays for stars from other teams.

        It’s like being up in arms about the gov’t tracking phone records. It’s been going on since the prev admin, and NOW you wanna shit your pants over it?

        • hunter says:

          Yes but the 90s dynasty was built around a core of home built players. Sure you need pieces and we have the money to get free agents, but in changing times (with fewer players in their prime hitting the market) it seems the same philosophy will fail now.

          Based on your analogy, I would shit my pants if I think the Ayatolla is running the country (he is not so Im ok with that); but changing states of the world makes what was acceptable and possibly optimal no longer optimum.

          • FEED.ME.MORE! says:

            A big issue with the philosophy of paying stars is

            1) The contracts are much longer and cost a whole lot more, so you can’t just cut guys when they are no longer useful.


            2) Other teams are not as enamored with names as we have been, so we cant just trade them away when they are no longer useful.

            We need a mindset shift as a fan base. Because the reality of having megastars has shifted. We hate the fading star, and hate the farmhand who hasn’t become an all-star. You have to have patience when cycling in your farm system with the stars.

          • Cool Lester Smooth says:

            Do you know how we got that core?

            Losing every year. For 5 years.

      • Dalek Jeter says:

        That’s really a “what came first” kind of argument for me. Do they focus on pitchers and catchers especially because they have over priced position players and it’s the one area they can actually develop or do they sign guys to long term deals to cover up the fact that they can’t develop young guys. I mean, look no further than Detroit and Austin Jackson, the Yankees basically “developed” him. It took him a few years at the major league level to figure it out, and he never developed the power some thought he would…but in a market like New York I doubt he would have been given the grace period he was given in Detroit.

        • Rolling Doughnut says:

          True. I get that but what seems strange is that when they sign those overpriced position players to contracts that would take them way past their prime, they might have understood that the strategy would backfire down the road.

    • mustang(The Has Been & Wannabes Bunch 2013) says:


  58. forensic says:

    Wow! Tell us how you really feel Mike. :-)

    I had to leave during the 9th inning and just got back to a radio 2 1/2 hours later and they were still playing. That sure was unexpected.

    0-28 with 12 K’s for Tex, Hafner, Youk, and Wells??? That’s damn impressive. You almost have to try to go that many AB’s without a hit.

    • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

      I don’t even know why they’re there at all.

      • Jacob the OG says:

        I do, I went on a troll hunting spree once and got banned. Don’t hunt trolls or other commentors

        • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

          And that’s it. The guidelines are a joke. He might as well replace them with “I’ll ban who I want to whenever” and be done with it.

  59. hunter says:

    Only thing that was wrong about this post was that it was called a rant. A majority of his points are correct:

    (1) Yankees have failed to develop a legitimate starter since Andy Pettitte (Wang sure but that is it, lets count DRob in as well). I understand pitching is not an issue this year so far, but the fact is they have limited in house long term option. Several teams pick at the back end of the draft pool year in and year out, yet we seem to have not a single player from our farm system that has done well for 3+ years, in the last 15 years.

    (2) They are a team invested heavily in end-of-career stars. Winning and success is about taking risk and the philosophy that “x has done it for many years, has playoff experience and moving to vibrant NY will energize him” can only work for so long.

    These are Mike’s main points. I seriously doubt that anyone with an iota of sanity can claim he is wrong. Yes, he is in his swearing-at-tv voice, but there is a lot of truth to what he says.

  60. Brian S. says:

    Kudos to you Mike. This is your blog; don’t let other people tell you what or how to write. That being said I would like to remind everybody that the team is still just 3.5 games back from Boston. We play them 12 more times and I do believe that Jeter, Granderson, and Rodriguez will be back sometime next month and take at-bats away 60 wRC+ peeps on the team.

    • The Real Greg says:

      The problem is that by that time they could be 6 or 7 games out.

      • WFAN Caller says:

        Oh great – call off the hounds, A-Rod will be back. He should be good for a lot of 1-5, 3K, 4 men LOB games. People need to wrap their heads around the fact that, at this point with this many injuries, A-Rod is average at best. AT BEST. He is also insane, so that won’t help when the Boo Birds are after him every time he whiffs and then smacks his gum away with his Micky Mouse gloves.

      • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

        Or not. Right now they’re 8 games over.

  61. Scott says:

    I dunno, not bothering to sign a starting catcher in the name of austerity and in the same stroke of the pen sign two declining outfielders to expensive, multi-year contracts seems silly to me. A rant like this is necessary sometimes.

    • Chris RU says:

      wells wouldn’t be here without Granderson injury in Spring Training. And if Cashman didn’t sign Ichiro…well, that’s an entirely different problem

  62. WFAN Caller says:

    EVERYONE – THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING. Just wait until Old Man Andy hits the DL again, Phil Yooooes absorbs his bi-monthly shellacking, and CC serves up some beach-balls by once again failing to dial it up past 90.

    The only saving grace in the next couple of years will be Gary Sanchize, the successful return of Michal Pineda’s labrum and the next Luis Tiant Mr. Rafael DePaula. Maybe if Mason Williams can stay off the sauce he could get his shit together and be an asset.

    Otherwise, once everyone washes the strip club glitter from their eyes, this seasons is going to get ugly very fast.

    • Nathan says:

      I wish I had strip club glitter to get by. I knew the season was going to be trouble when Stewart/Cervelli would be the catchers.

      • JRod says:

        Stewart .275/.328/.358
        Cervelli .269 /.377/.500
        Martin .251/.340/.430

        Sorry, the whole bovine Stewart/Cervelli hatred has been one of the worst cognitive troughs this season. There were NO Posadas out there to get. Why is it so hard to uptake this information?

  63. Pasqua says:

    Who is this, and what have you done with Mike?

    Good. Goooood. I can feel your anguhhhh.

  64. Matt DiBari says:

    Well then.

    In more optimistic news, i think this is rock bottom.

  65. Nathan says:

    My feelings exactly.

    This whole threshold ordeal has been pure B$. We’re talking about the YANKEES here. The Yankees biggest advantage (used to be at least) was that they had deeper pockets than other teams. Those days appear to be long gone as we’re seeing FAs sign elsewhere. I understand that the Steinbrenner sons are treating the Yankees as a business but even they have to be able to see that this year the product isn’t up to standard and their customers (fans) are getting tired of it. I know that I am.

    The lineup today was pathetic. But when they are relying on retreads and has-beens, what would any reasonable person expect?

    And while watching the 1,000th inning today I thought of the irony: in the past the Oakland A’s would field teams of retreads in hopes that they would somehow catch lightning in a bottle and keep them in contention. Today, their best player is an international signing they won bidding on. And the Yankees? Yup, signing retreads and hoping to stay in contention.

  66. The Pope says:


  67. Mikhel says:

    Finally you grew balls to say it ALMOST like it is.

    You forgot to mention JoeG’s inhability to manage, he is so stupid he follows the idiotic strategy I call “the Mike Axisa strategy”, and that is to NEVER bunt, don’t go for the hit and run, and wait for the 3R-HR even when there’s only one runner on base.

    JoeG needs to learn to manage the type of team he has right now, instead, he plays like he has a roster full of 0.330 AVG/40 HR hitters, but remember, the Yankees are not the bronx bunters, so stupid, so so stupid.

  68. The Real Greg says:

    And I’ve been crying about this farm system for the last 3 years.

    It’s ridiculous to see all the other teams build from within with varying degrees of success, while the Yankees stay the course and approach the point of no return.

    And I am talking about hitters and pitchers. Their farm system has been a major disappointment the last 5 or 6 years.

    • The Big City of Dreams says:

      Their farm system has been a major disappointment the last 5 or 6 years.


      Outside of Robertson and Gardner is there anyone else we can point too? I guess Phelps as well.

  69. JoeG says:

    Thats why Hal has to sell this team and get an owner who really cares about winning. First order of business would be getting Cashman the hell out of here. He is by far the most over rated GM in the sport.Hey clueless Cashman, do you think Darvish,Cespedes, Puig, Chapman would have made this team better? SELL THE TEAM HAL!!

    • Nathan says:

      That is one thing that really ticked me off: the lack of effort by the Yankees to go after impact int’l players. I can understand not wanting to go after FAs with draft picks attached to them but int’l players don’t cost picks.

      For all the interest that the Yankees showed in Darvish (supposedly), watching him and Cespedes tear it up makes me mad that they didn’t even place a bid.

  70. Jacob the OG says:

    For the people crucifying Mike:

    While non of you will admit it, this is exactly how you feel. Is he wrong? No, is he right? No. We all have our opinions and all have our limits, Mike was pushed to his give the guy a break! Also he covers this team more in depth than the majority of us, he lives, sleeps, and breathes this team so if anyone on this site has a right to blow up I do believe it is Mike. Thank you for all your work Mike, we would not be as deep of fans without the knowledge you feed us!

    • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:


    • Will in NJ says:

      Amen. I actually find it pretty sad that this many people are getting this worked up about a blog post. Acting like Mike killed a kitten by ranting on HIS blog. The “this post is beneath RAB’s standards” are especially amusing. IT’S A FUCKING BLOG.

      • jjyank says:

        What about all the people that get worked up every other day? Do they not count if it’s the opposite viewpoint?

  71. I'mVernonI'mVernon4U says:

    Damn Mike. I’m still hopeful for this year but I can’t deny nodding my head while reading. It seemed like every team tried upgrading during the offseason except for the Yanks and Marlins.

    I think the bats will turn around (a bit). But its going to be a tough season for sure.

  72. JoeG says:

    Also Cashman, where are all these over rated prospects you refused to trade???? Imagine we didnt get Cliff Lee because Cashman wouldnt give up Nunez. What a joke. How are the 3 B’s doing you clueless wonder?

  73. YankMe says:

    The Boss knew it was all about building an Entertainment juggernaught. Stars fill the seats and grab headlines. Now the Son has been given the reins, and dosent have the stuff to be able to eclipse the Boss ….,so he brings a NEW philosophy to the table— he’s a bottom line guy. Profits. So he sells us cubic zurconium on the representation of diamonds. Figures no one will notice. Wrong. Way to trash the brand. Oh, but profits are up.

  74. Small ball enthusiast says:

    Well at least we aren’t hitting so many damn home runs this year!

  75. Opus says:

    They’ll go to Los Angeles of Anaheim and determine signing Cano would be a mistake.

  76. Frank says:

    Unfortunately, this isn’t a short term, one season issue. We’re looking at several years of mediocrity and committments to several onerous contracts for the next 4 years for regressing performances from the likes of A-Rod, Tex and CC. But I’m sure they’ll make the same mistake with Cano.

  77. Mik says:

    I’m no where near the point of jumping ship. I have a bit more faith than that.

  78. Ron says:

    That ether to make your soul burn slow Hal. Nice job. we don’t always agree, but this is 100% on point.

  79. Jacob the OG says:

    I am still riding out the poll at a 6-7 because I feel like at the very least, they can turn the prospects into a useful piece if needed (given the S. boys let cash do it.

  80. Morpheus says:

    Sorry but this must be said. What a display of utter unprofessionalism with this post. As a primary lurker that enjoys reading this blog mostly, Axisa should be ashamed. Yes everyone is frustrated (lower team wRC+ than the Astros!?!?) but whining like a child isn’t going to do anything. Now before anyone replies saying Axisa could post whatever he wants in his blog, yes that’s true but don’t expect to be taken seriously if this becomes the norm which I hope isn’t the case. And as a public blog, we also have the right to criticize.

  81. your mom says:

    This post was hilarious. Love it. Is Mike bipolar now?

  82. Cuso says:

    Everyone needs to chill with the “what this site has come to” BS.

    I enjoyed reading Mike’s rant because it was funny. No matter how objective we all are about the team and their good standing within the division despite the injuries, lack of offseason expenditures, yadda yadda…everyone FEELS a bit of what Mike posted – even if they’re too “mature” or “objective ” go day it.

    You’re all going to continue coming here because this is the only Yankee bloc worth a damn. So enough with the idle threats, the disappointed stances and the moral high ground.

    Reading this rant was cathartic for me. It saved me from saying something dumb.

    And even the most optimistic among us has to admit that since April 2012, the team has been more of a chore to follow than it had been since at least ’93.

    Just get ready for the Angels and let everyone vent the way they want to.

    It’s Friday, bitches!

  83. Manny's BanWagon says:

    Agree 100% with everything Mike said.

    I would also add it would have been nice if they could have signed at least one of the young international FAs who are tearing it up in the majors like Puig, Ryu, Darvish or Cespedes or minors like Soler instead of spending good money on the tying to reunite the 2005 All Star team signing a bunch of decrepit has beens like Wells, Youkilis, Ichiro and Hafner.

    Win or lose, the product they’ve been putting on the field is just ugly to watch, completely uninteresting and not compelling in the least.

    • FEED.ME.MORE! says:

      I do agree about the International Free Agents like Cespedes and Soler and Puig. Maybe it would’ve been a good boost to the overall talent.

      But if they signed one and he sucked, what would the fans/media be howling? They are just as big a risk to flop as anyone else.

      • Manny's BanWagon says:

        If they signed one who sucked, it’s only lost money. They burned $42 million on Igawa and it didn’t exactly paralyze the franchise.

        Imagine how exciting it would be to see Darvish start every 5th game instead of hoping CC gets some of his velocity back or Puig look like a young Bo Jackson instead of washed up Wells go 0 for the last 6 weeks on his march back to the Mendoza line.

        • Dalek Jeter says:

          It absolutely has paralyzed them. How many international free agents have they gone after since Igawa?

          • The Big City of Dreams says:

            That’s on them for making a rash decision though. Don’t let a bad FA move make you completely gun shy. I’m not saying they should have signed all those guys and whatever happens happens but were they really interested in any of them?

        • FEED.ME.MORE! says:

          Igawa did paralyze them. I also think Contreras scared them off from the Cuban players.

          • Manny's BanWagon says:

            Contreras had a pretty decent career. It was the Yankees own ineptitude that they couldn’t get out of him what Don Cooper and the White Sox were able to.

            Igawa may have caused Cashman to lose his nerve but the Yankees won a WS and the division pretty much every year after that signing so the lost $42 million didn’t really affect the product they put in the field.

      • Chris RU says:

        player development? Maybe if they keep drafting and signing players, and they suck…it’s not the drafting/scouting.

    • dalelama says:

      I agree. I can’t explain it but I enjoyed the sucky Mattingly teams more than this squad.

  84. Quantum Zen says:


    I have been reading RAB since it’s inception. I rarely, rarely comment or participate in the discussions.

    But this has been your very best post to date that PERFECTLY captures my feelings towards the franchise moving forward. Strong work, Mike. And it took some stones to write what you did, especially given your YES Network affiliation. I really appreciate you standing up to say what’s on your mind, not hold back, and so succinctly direct the fanbase’s ire and bewilderment towards the Yankees.

    Thanks Mike. I bet that felt good to get off your chest. It made my night better. Let’s hope moving forward the proper adjustments can be made to right the ship.

  85. FEED.ME.MORE! says:


    The idea that we were just going to replace:

    A 600 HR hall of famer Centaur

    A 3000 hit .300 hitting SS

    One of the best pitchers in franchise history

    AND The greatest closer ever

    and it was going to go swimmingly and have no bumps in the road is delusional.

    They are either going to retire at the peak of their powers (Mo), or struggle through injury and ineffectiveness (the rest).

    Add in the injuries to Cervelli, Tiex and Granderson, and it was going to look ugly.

    Let’s grow up and be real about it.

    • Chris RU says:

      I think that last sentence is what he was doing.

      • FEED.ME.MORE! says:

        No, he’s blaming the FO for not having a team full of farm system replacements for the legends and the injured players is NOT being real about the situation.

        We don’t trade veterans for prospects, we trade prospects for vets.

        We don’t have patience when the kids don’t play like megastars. The kid plays decent, we wanna trade them for name value. We wanna gut the farm for one player, as if that one player will revolutionize the team.

        We wanna run from bad, long term contracts, but should’ve paid Swisher for 5 years and pay Russell Martin and his barely .300 OBP $9 mil per.

        • Chris RU says:

          I agree with all that. I didn’t get that from Mike’s rant. It would seem like the problems are pretty obvious to everyone though. I don’t want to re-read his rant, but it’s not telling me anything I wasn’t thinking. Why pay ichiro/wells when you could get that production from prospects, whether megastars or not. These injuries were the perfect storm to get some playing time for fringy prospects that you couldn’t play in other years with Jeter, A-Rod, Granderson, etc. They are blowing that free pass by the idiot media/fans by trotting out this old, dead weight.

          The trade for Granderson has worked out pretty well for us. Yes, after this year, it would be nice to have Jackson. But let’s not discount the amount of offense Granderson has brought to this team, while playing a passable premium position up the middle.

          I didn’t want to sign Swisher or Martin, and I’m not going back on that. But Martin has a 340 OBP right now, just as a point to your argument.

          • FEED.ME.MORE! says:

            Mike has been on the Martin/Swisher bandwagon since December, so that’s why I brought it up.

            Last year Martin was sub .300 OBP.

            I’m a believer that over the past few years, the Yanks should’ve been finding ways to play more of their minor leaguers, mixing them in to the stars of the team and showing them the Yankee Way. The team still would’ve won and been competitive. But you know the media and large segments of the fan base would’ve gone berserk.

            “You traded Nick Swisher and are playing this ‘kid’?”

            • FIPster Doofus says:

              “Last year Martin was sub .300 OBP.”

              No, he wasn’t.

            • The Big City of Dreams says:

              Some in the FO would have gone berserk as well. If not berserk there would have definitely been “Yankees losing patience with *fill in name here*

  86. Pat D says:

    OK, I said I didn’t have anything to say. I think I do now.

    First of all, Mike has every right to go off on a rant. It’s his blog.

    Second, I don’t necessarily disagree with a lot of what Mike said. That being said, and again acknowledging that Mike has a right to go off on a rant, I do disagree with the general tone of this post. I’ve been coming to this site for at least three years, and the reason I was impressed with the site in the first place, and have made it a daily part of my web surfing, is because of the quality of the articles. This site introduced me to analysis I didn’t know existed, and I think it’s made me a better fan by learning new stats and seeing things differently. I have felt that this site was separated from any other Yankee blog out there based on the quality of the writing and analysis.

    But this rant was really No Maas-ian in nature. Just a ton of whining and bitching and moaning. Like I said I don’t really disagree with most of the points Mike made. The farm system has sucked. The austerity plan is shit. I don’t like the thought of the Steinbrenners pocketing profits like they’re suddenly Jeffrey Loria or something.

    But can’t we just take a big fucking step back and look at things objectively for a minute? Are we going to live and die with every pitch, every at bat, every series? Personally, I’m not going to do that anymore. I did it for years and then it started to have effects on my job (getting in trouble for swearing under my breath but apparently not soft enough during the 2011 ALDS) and on my physical and mental health. So it finally hit me that this team has had so much success throughout my lifetime. I mean, nothing I was really able to enjoy until my teenage years, but they’ve won 5 fucking World Series in my life. No other team has more than 3. So I personally am not going to let every single moment of every single game affect me anymore. Just not going to do it. This doesn’t make me less of a fan. It makes me a saner fan.

    I hope that Mike realizes he is better than this.

    • Jacob the OG says:

      Thank you Pat for expressing yourself without making mike sound like an ass

    • Chris RU says:

      It’s pretty clear that his post had nothing to do with every pitch, or every at bat, or the one game today. You could really write this article after winning the series in Seattle.

    • Bob Buttons says:

      Well with how we’re turning on each other in this single thread, it does feel like No Maas all over again.

      Now all we need is someone to post a PS picture of Warren flipping people off.

      • Dalek Jeter says:

        Man…I wish I had photoshop.

      • Chris RU says:

        Nomaas was fun until I learned about all the people behind the scenes and how it was like high school. Felt dirty. Was funny for a while though when I was young and naive.

        • Bob Buttons says:

          NoMaas was funny to me for a bit with PS, but then the people there aren’t your average civil poster, so I didn’t find it enjoyable after a while.

    • Troll says:

      GFY. Start your own blog if you’re so disappointed.

      • Icey says:

        Troll thanks for putting this dumbasses on blast. Pat d for dumbass is such a POS. Oh just os me you dumb fuck patty. Troll you’re the best. Never change.

    • I'mVernonI'mVernon4U says:

      Agree with most of what you wrote. I’ve learned rather quickly to not let the team’s performance get to my head. Today’s loss didn’t even really affect me, although the innings leading up to it were a bit nerve-wracking.

      Like you said Mike has a right to post whatever he wants. A lot of people on here are clamoring that this wasn’t objective, etc. Sure, maybe it wasn’t. 99% of things on this blog are. In my opinion constant objectivity could get quite boring after a while. You need the human element, and Mike’s not a robot. I love learning about all the new stats and analysis but numbers number and more numbers can get boring after a while.

      If these type articles were posted every day, we’d have an issue. But that’s not the case.

  87. Steinbrenner's Ghost says:

    This. Is. Unacceptable.

    Not at these prices.

    Average ticket price for a Yankee ticket is $51.55

    Average ticket price for a Oakland ticket is $22.12

    You want to charge us 2 1/2 times what Oakland charges, then you better play better than Oakland.

    • Troll says:

      Amen. These are the goddamn Yankees, so if you’re going to charge an arm and a leg it better be worth it. These Yankees, unfortunately, ain’t worth a shit.

    • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

      I can get tickets in the bleachers for 10 dollars, then go stand right next to the field whenever I want to. Don’t let the average fool you, it’s driven up big time by the 1000dollar tickets. It can actually be very affordable.

  88. your mom says:

    I bet Red Sox fans are eating this stuff up. Of course they can still go fuck themselves.

    Btw, who’s giving Warren the hand job? Tilapia?

  89. Dalek Jeter says:

    The comments here are complaining out of one side of their mouth that guys like Wells are on the team and then complaining out of the other side that Tex and A-Rod are signed to ludicrous contracts. To develop talent takes time, energy, patience, and a shit ton of luck. The Yankees find themselves in a terrible position because they can have all the energy and luck in the world but because of their market they don’t have time or the patience of their fanbase, which will by and large desert them at the first sign of trouble. Cashman and the Front Office need to figure out a way to balance developing a farm while maintaining a contending team, and now with the bonus stipulation of getting the payroll under 189 mil by next year.

    • Chris RU says:

      exactly. this is problem 1A that drives me crazy about rooting for this team.

    • FEED.ME.MORE! says:

      As much as the team and media praise the Yankees (and New York) for being a smart fan base, they are mostly a front-running, star-crazed pack of rats who will scurry off the ship at the first sign of trouble.

    • The Big City of Dreams says:

      Cashman and the Front Office need to figure out a way to balance developing a farm while maintaining a contending team


      Isn’t that what they were doing from 05 to about 08 or 10? 2008 was looked at as a transition yr for the franchise.

  90. cr1 says:

    Lately I have been missing the days when this blog featured regular/frequent analysis by Ben and Joe.

    I know, things change and we can’t have the past back. But a taste from time to time would surely increase my enjoyment of the current RAB.

  91. Randy Levine= Douche says:

    the stadium isnt empty because the team sucks. its empty because normal people cannot afford to attend games at the embarrassing prices the Yankees have. I can attend an NFL playoff game at Lambeau Field on the 30 yard line 8 rows from the field for about 1/5 the price of a seat behind home plate at Yankee stadium against the Mariners on a Wednesday night in June. Yankees front office is a bunch of douche bag blowhards, i hope we suck for about 10 years and they all lose massive amounts of money. well worth it to me…new Yankee stadium sucks, alot worse than the team who plays in it. Im shockingly impressed where the team is. We have DL stints like no other and were 8 games above 500??? thats incredible. sure ichiro and wells blow but lets not pretend they are the only bad things. If you have Grandy, Arod, Teix, and Jeter all season wells and ichiro become a platoon that might actually be decent for all we know.

  92. The Doctor says:

    I’m in agreement with many of the above posters. This is a shockingly, wholly unprofessional article. It is in complete opposition to everything I had come to expect from Mike.

    That said, we all get angry and behave oddly from time to time. After sitting through 5+ hours of pitiful baseball, I think it’s fair to say this was a justified outburst. So yes, it’s disappointing to see, but I think after such consistently great work, Mike is allowed a free pass now and then. We’ll come back tomorrow and everything will be back as it wads here. If not, it’s not the end of the world, and I’m really not sure why there’s actually a fight between people who agree and disagree with the article. I don’t even think that’s the important part of this; you can feel whatever you want, but it’s unprofessional to pass it off as legitimate journalism. Still, as I said, being briefly unprofessional is just fine now and then.

    • Chris RU says:

      It’s an internet blog. Unless I’m missing something (and I may be)

      • The Doctor says:

        Well it really is, it’s just generally so very well done that I’ve come to view it as journalism. I previously wrote for a blog that worked more frequently like you’d expect a blog to; every article was full of subjectivity.

        If such writing was the standard of RAB, I would not be disappointed by this. In fact, I agree with a good bit of it. I do, however, hold Mike in very high regards as a sports writer, so it’s disappointing.

  93. Bob Buttons says:

    Just let it out Mike. You are probably more frustrated than we are since you spend more time around baseball and Yanks in general. Just let all the frustration out and we’ll all feel better. Much better to vent before a weekend instead of fuming about it over more spare time. I just want to point out that, while most of your points are within reason, you simply cannot expect the Yankees to admit they are rebuilding. It’s a brand-suicide if they do that. Sure, a purge of bandwagon fans may be nice, but ultimately bandwagon fans still pay money to the team in some way, or just spread the brand by wearing their gear.

    Of course, for all we know this is just a rant to piss on all parts of Yankees team because we’ve had a couple of posts where the player Mike criticizes goes on a hot-streak.

    • Deep Thoughts says:

      Say what you will about NoMaas, but one feature they had in the discussion forums was a thread specifically dedicated to the topic “F**K THIS TEAM!” where rants like Mike’s were encouraged, appropriate, and largely contained. The rest of the threads stayed (mostly) on topic, except when dueling sabermetric nerds needed to have a grammatical or rhetorical cockfight.

      • Bob Buttons says:

        Haven’t gone back there in three or four years due to some extremely rude people there. Certainly won’t now since RAB is generally more civil.

        I mean, not to be a total dick but their (possibly retired) motto of “if we had 200 million to burn, the Yanks wouldn’t lose a game” didn’t make me hold the site in too high regards either. I mean, LAD so farthis year is showing how not every GM can turn 200 million payroll into a playoff appearance.

  94. TomH says:

    Most of what Axisa says is true. Nothing is truer, though, than the charge that Hal spoke to his fans as if they were dummies about the improvements made over the winter. This was so staggeringly inept a remark, it made you puzzle over whether it was a sign of an arrogant man or a man who’s just not too bright (i.e., who may have believed what he said!).

    It’s possible Hal will make us yearn for the days of CBS.

    • The Doctor says:

      I do genuinely question the Steinbrenner brothers’ intelligence from time to time. After all they didn’t exactly earn their way up to where they are, they inherited it. They didn’t need the brains to get to where they are, so who’s to say they have them at all? Maybe they genuinely do buy into the whole “New York revitalizes veterans” crap, and they really expected Ichiro, Youk, and Wells to suddenly return to form.

    • Manny's BanWagon says:


  95. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Also – remember how much Axisa liked Vernon Wells at the beginning of the season, how he was revitalized, etc?

    Just proves out the fact that RAB is not journalism – it’s a blog, and anyone here is capable of creating one, if they had the time.

    I’m a long-time fan, and a knowledgeable one at that too. I’ve always taken this blog at face value. It’s the creation of a fan, nothing more.

  96. forensic says:

    Just for the record, I do agree with the vast majority of this post. The main thing I disagree with is that you should do something based on it being Mo’s final season.

    You don’t build your team and make decisions based on an individuals choice to retire, no matter who that is. Doing stuff like that leads to poor decisions and franchise crippling things like what happened to the Orioles when everything was about Cal. The team and organization are bigger than any one player, even someone like Mo or when they inevitably deal with this in a couple years with Jeter.

    Building around veterans like that is exactly what can lead to issues like what the Phillies are having and that you mentioned. It also leads to a neglect of the farm system and the non-desire to allow young players to learn, and potentially improve, at the Major League level. That’s how you get stuck with players like Wells, Youk, Ichiro, etc. They’re voluntarily choosing known crap-to-mediocre play instead of potentially good play by their Minor Leaguers to partially try to satisfy the fans and the existing players on the team so they don’t risk having to deal with youth struggles and the potential backlash of that during something like Mo’s final year.

    The veterans gives them the easy canned responses like “We’ve seen them do it before, and they’ll do it again” and “If you have young players, you may worry about pressing, but not with this veteran group”, the latter one which was exactly what Girardi used after last night’s game.

    • Dalek Jeter says:

      I think Adams and Romine speak perfectly to the point you’re making in the middle paragraph. These are young guys who are getting their first lumps in the bigs, and at the first sign of trouble, not 200 AB’s into their career people want them to be sent down. It’s hard to develop at the big league level if you’re not allowed to overcome struggles and…develop at the big league level.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      Completely agree on the Mo part, FWIW.

    • vicki says:

      okay, but the surfboard line was gold.

  97. UncleArgyle says:

    A bit of an over reaction, but Mike makes many good, honest points. However, lets not forget the other moves that have led the team down this dark path. Overpaying to keep Texeria away from Boston? How’s that working out? Resigning an overweight past 30 pitcher to a 7 year deal when he hasn’t been an “Ace” in several years to massive contract? Yeah that’s gonna suck too. Trading the best outfield AND best pitching prospect you’ve produced in 15 years for a low batting average poor fielding center fielder whom another big market team decided they didn’t want? In hindsight, not wise. Not trading Phil Hughes before everyone realized he sucks? Pretty bad. Anyway fuck it. It’s practically football season.

  98. forensic says:

    I blame CB Bucknor.

    If he had just messed up that call at homeplate on the missed tag in the 3rd inning like he almost always does, then the Yankees would’ve won and this place wouldn’t be a war zone right now.

    Don’t let the CB Bucknor’s of the world destroy us all!

  99. Betty Lizard says:

    The A’s are “so much better than the Yankees” it took them 18 innings to win?

    It is to laugh.

    It’s a surrealistic season, with sickening injuries and terrifically hard fought games and some superb pitching.

    It’s a long season. Anything can happen. There’s no security. Thank goodness.

    This is my entertainment. I’m entertained.

    I enjoy the drama of the games. But the drama about the drama bores me to tears.

  100. vicki says:

    i cosign every keystroke of mike’s post. passionate, honest, articulate. i cheered reading it. cheered.

  101. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Looking at this actual game, and getting away from whatever rant or column or truth or whatever was written by Mike, we can’t be putting a 5-6-7 of Hafner, Wells, and Youk out there every night. I refuse to believe any of these players are as bad, even in 2013, as they looked tonight, but a combination of playing way beyond capability, injury, and god-knows-what-Vernon-Wells-is made this one of the most embarrassing performances I’ve seen from MLB players in a mighty long time.

    I also have no fucking clue what to do about it, which is why I’m more willing than most to sit through this bullshit and see what this looks like way on the other end, after whatever this celery cap thing looks like, after we see whether what we’re seeing out of the AA guys now is a true adjustment to level, etc. You want to try Thomas Neal or Ronnie Mustelier out there, see if you’ve got a diamond in the rough? Sure, go ahead. I’ve seen enough potential diamonds in the rough to know that they’re usually more Sam Pearce than Ian Kinsler.

    So, to answer SDB’s question from above as to how or why I remain calm, or whatever the hell it is I am right now, I think John said it best right at the top of this thread when referring to much worse teams than this – teams that weren’t sniffing the top of the AL East at any point during the season. I refuse to live and die with this. I’ll simply save all that emotion for if the Heat don’t win the finals.

    Great job by Warren, and by the pitching all around. Loved Robbie’s performance. Loved Gardner’s performance. For all the shit he gets, Chris Stewart was a fucking hoss for holding on to that throw from Vernon. Somehow my usual “if you beat Mo, all I can do is shake your hand” approach doesn’t apply tonight.

    Oakland A’s pitching always scares me. I don’t know what the fuck they do in the lab over there that turns them into worldbeaters until they take off that uniform.

  102. Jacob the OG says:


  103. I'mVernonI'mVernon4U says:

    I posted this in response to Pat above but figured I’d post my own comment.

    Everyone on here pretty much understands that its Mike’s blog and he can write whatever he wants. But people are clamoring that this wasn’t objective and instead was whiny and whatever. Sure, I guess so. But I don’t see why 1 heartfelt post in a sea of 99999 other objective and analytical posts is such a big deal. RAB taught me all about WAR, wRC+, WPA, etc. Loved learning about them. But numbers, numbers, numbers can get boring after a while, even on a blog.

    I know I sound like the old-school baseball scouts take on sabermetrics but whatever. There’s a human element to blogging just like there is one to baseball.

    If this type article were posted every day, we’d have an issue. But that’s not the case. It was over the top but knowing that he lives and breaths Yanks you can’t write him a free pass?

    • Troll says:

      If these types of “rants” were warranted on a daily basis, then sure, they should be posted every day. Maybe Mike can create a ghost category where he can let off steam and post pure opinion pieces, as to not offend the sensitive folk around here. I’d read them.

      • I'mVernonI'mVernon4U says:

        No, I think a daily rant would not be good at all. Then Mike would look like just another whiny spoiled Yankee fan.

        Somehow I don’t think that Marlins and Astros blogs are posting this type of material on a daily basis. When the Blue Jays trade happened? Oh, I’m sure there was something. But everyday day? Nah.

        • Troll says:

          That’s because they’re the Mets and the Astros . . . . Do I really need to continue with this explanation?

      • forensic says:

        There already is a “Rants” category. It’s been used from time to time. Personally, I don’t see the big deal here. It’s a blog, not a newspaper, and sometimes things build up and get to you and you need to let off some steam. Some people are going way to far to the other side and killing Mike too much for it.

        That being said, I wouldn’t be surprised if Mike posted another “Thoughts following the A’s series” article tomorrow after the immediate anger/frustration subsides with a little more tempered tone to it.

        • forensic says:

          *even-tempered tone…

        • Robinson Tilapia says:

          Yup. Good point.

          I’ll say it again: I was disappointed, and even a bit embarrassed, by the tone, and it again smacks of how much I miss the alternate viewpoints of Ben and Joe on a regular basis, but no one died here.

          I just wished more for a recap and not a rant. Chad, for example, wrote up a recap that spelled out the suck just as well. Of course, the comment section there jumped off the bridge tonight even quicker from the bit I read.

          • forensic says:

            Yeah, that exactly the point. Chad writes for a newspaper and isn’t a fan. There are two completely different POV’s there, and I can absolutely see how it can push a fan blog writer over the edge like this.

            If Mike had written this article for fangraphs or his CBS or SI (sorry, I forget which one at the moment) gigs, then I would say it’s out of line, but not here (and I’m sure he knows that too and wouldn’t do something like that).

            I do agree on the absences of Ben and Joe though. It’s been nice having Matt throw some posts up recently to break up the monotony (for lack of a better term right now) of all Mike all the time. He’s a great writer, but it was almost to the point where you could predict some of the posts or once you saw a title you could predict where Mike was going to go with it because we’re all so familiar with his POV and opinions.

            • Above and Beyond says:

              The great thing about having Mike, Ben, and Joe (as well as the other guest writers) is the multiple view points. Not exactly “Mike writes something negative and Ben/Joe/Whoever counters it with something positive”, but just having different views.

    • vicki says:

      not even a free pass.

      the reason this one had so much impact (positive for me; i couldn’t have imagined the negative responses and find them bizarre) is because the ax man usually IS so measured and rational.

      i wonder how many of these indignant dudes watched every single pitch. i know i did.

      • I'mVernonI'mVernon4U says:

        Yep, totally agree. A little emotion here and there is not the end of the world.

        As for watching every pitch, I tend to do that more in games we are winning than in disasters like today, heh. Like Pat said above I try not to live or die with the team. At the end of the day though I’ll always know the score.

    • Above and Beyond says:


      Sure, the feel of the articles in the past few months has been negative, but mostly still objective. I don’t really mind this kind of post from Mike. I’ve been reading his blogs since IGWT way back in 2006, and this has been what, the 4th/5th time he posted something like this in 6 years of posting articles almost everyday.

      • I'mVernonI'mVernon4U says:

        Yeah. And despite the subtle (but understandable) negativity I noticed that a good group of posters on here are usually optimistic anyway, so whats the big deal? Everyone is entitled to an opinion. I’m basically neutral. A weekly 6 on the confidence poll.

        Only been a follower of RAB a year but not a doubt in my mind its one of the highest quality Yank blogs out there.

  104. Troll says:

    Well, at least the Sox lost . . . That makes tonight’s loss a little less agonizing.

  105. The Other Sam says:

    “they’re trying to cut payroll below the luxury tax threshold for no other reason than to save the Steinbrenners some money. Want to slash payroll and line your pockets?”

    Plus this
    “The decision to willfully downgrade the roster this winter was a disgusting display of arrogance and cockiness…”


  106. Tom says:

    So the yanks have gotten nothing out of their farm????

    Tell me how the mets, royals, orioles, pirates, padres and so on and so forth have been doing with their farm systems over the past 20 years.

    Dude you are sounding like a child who didn’t get a toy. First of all, who did clamor for signing in the offseason, David Ross? Nate the great schierholtz and Scott Hairston. Those guys scream instant offense. The loss of Russell Martin is just so great right now….your answer is to give terrible players extra years and extra money…the exact thing you just went on an epic rant about.

    They have a ridiculous amount of injuries, lighten up guy. They are still contending and god forbid they miss the playoffs for the 2nd time in 3 decades. I will say I would much rather see cervelli bat .250 or almonds hit . 250 than Martin or Hamilton, Hairston or fuck Curtis granderson strike out 200 times. Grow up Peter Pan, this team has overachieved! Support the team, nobody is happy their offense is struggling but we all knew it was gonna happen.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:


      • The Real Greg says:

        Mets- Matt Harvey
        Royals- Salvador Perez
        Pirates- Andrew McCutchen /Starling Marte
        Orioles- Manny Machado
        Padres- Got me there


        • Robinson Tilapia says:

          One fucking guy from each team over 20 years? Come on….you can do better than that.

        • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

          Yankees have D-Rob, Austin Jackson, Hughes, and Joba (both of them have contributed way more than the average minor league prospect).

          No, no Matt Harvey’s or McCutchen’s. But then, there almost never are.

          Anyway, I’d rather be the Yankees since 05′ then ALL of those teams.

          • The Real Greg says:

            I don’t give a crap about average minor league prospects. I’m talking about bona fide major league stars.

            Yes you can use the draft lower excuse, but that only goes so far.

            • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

              In the past 3-4 years? It goes a Hell of a long way that we haven’t produced superstars out of the lower draft rounds, but have produced several above average, contributing major leaguers.

              • The Real Greg says:

                Who, besides pitchers, since offense seems to be the main problem with this team.

                • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

                  Gardner and Jackson.

                  Anyway, now you’re just adding qualifications after the fact.

        • forensic says:

          Chase Headley for the Padres, at least, though I personally think he’s become a bit overrated.

        • BronxBombers? says:

          Mets- nothing besides Harvey
          Royals- Seriously? Pick any player besides Francouer and Shields (who they acquired with prospects)
          Pirates- Garrit Cole, Pedro Alverez, Jason Grilli, Hannrahan, McCutchen
          Orioles- Adam Jones, Machado, Gausman, Markakis, Brian Roberts
          Padres- Chase Headly, Adrian Gonzalez, Matt Latos

          If you’re gonna talk a big game Tom then at least think before you name teams, otherwise you come off as an idiot who doesn’t actually know a damn thing about the Major Leagues. And Peter Pan? Really? Not helping your case to prove how knowledgeable you are, so if you don’t like how Mike has written countless articles every damn day, then get off this site. Nobody is gonna miss you.

          • Troll says:

            Standing ovation!

          • BigDavey88 says:

            Just gotta say, Adam Jones came over from the Mariners in a trade, not that it really effects your argument too much.

          • forensic says:

            Why nothing besides Harvey for the Mets? What about David Wright? And I don’t know if young IFA’s count, but then there’s also Jose Reyes.

            • BronxBombers? says:

              BigDavey88, I mentioned Adam Jones because we all know if he would have stayed with Seattle, they would have f-ed him up so bad just like all the other top prospect hitters they have, he’d be in AA hitting .220 right now.

              forensic, you’re right, that was really stupid on my part for omitting Reyes and Wright, but that just helps my argument more.

    • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

      I agree with the substance of your posts, but the nasty being directed at Mike has grown kind of alarming.

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        As has the amount of nasty towards regulars on here, including towards you.

        If we’re adults who can take it, then Mike is too.

        • Troll says:

          For someone who’s typically filled with vitriol and massive outbursts of cussing, RRR has been surprisingly well-behaved this evening.

          • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

            Actually, I have been trying to cut down on the cursing.

            Anyway, my vitriol is rarely directed towards people. When it is they probably REALLY ticked me off. I have apologized a couple of times though. Normally my vitriol is a rant of frustration when something bad happens in a game – and like I said, I’ll try and cut down my cursing.

            You, however, have been policing the site tonight more than R-Tills ever has, and you claim your use of acronyms when cursing at people and telling them to fuck themselves or get the fuck out somehow justifies you telling people this.

            • forensic says:

              There’s only ever been one poster on this site that sent me over the edge. Thankfully, he doesn’t seem to show up much anymore.

              Other posters have and do still bug me, but never to that point. I just ignore them and typically don’t respond to their comments. I don’t understand why more people aren’t that passive about it too.

              • FIPster Doofus says:

                Does that person’s name rhyme with Ned Telson? What an asshole.

                • forensic says:

                  He should be the new “He who shall not be named” around here…

                  • vicki says:

                    i fucking hated that guy.

                    • LK says:

                      I always thought that it was a shame TN couldn’t have been a better presence around here. He definitely knew a lot about the Yanks. He had some pretty glaring flaws though, mainly:

                      -being confrontational far beyond what was necessary, particularly in continuing to pursue arguments after they had gotten well past “agree to disagree” territory.

                      -applying an insane degree of skepticism to any criticism of the Yanks, such as when he said Mike was wrong to bash the Ichiro signing because he hadn’t done an analysis of Ichiro’s swing mechanics before and after the trade, despite the fact that there was no evidence whatsoever that Ichiro’s mechanics had changed and (and this one’s the kicker) he wasn’t even arguing that they HAD changed, just saying that Mike needed to demonstrate they hadn’t before he could be against the move. Some degree of skepticism is certainly healthy, but it always seemed like he was never willing to accept any argument about anything unless literally every single alternative had been proven false.

            • Troll says:

              I’m not policing anything, frankly. There are people here who are complaining about one article that Mike has written. ONE! One of thousands. They’ve been nasty, rude, and immensely inappropriate, as well as entirely disrespectful to Mr. Axisa. Isn’t that ironic? They’re ranting about his rant. If they’re suddenly so sick and tired then they can just as easily find another site to harass and another EiC to dismantle. What I’ve done tonight is not policing, not one bit. It’s knocking people down that had no right to stand up. I’m Batmanning it.

              • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

                Well, I’ll give you one thing: You just made me realize that there is absolutely nothing I can say to this in response, except this acknowledgement.

              • Bob Buttons says:

                NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA BATMAN!

                But seriously. I’ve said it elsewhere. People are frustrated. Most of us are Yanks fans here. People’s wording won’t be gentle, and telling them to GTFO certainly won’t make them calm down.

                It’s been said before, Mike can defend himself and he has done so when he felt necessary, like with Ted, for example. I’m pretty sure he won’t lose any sleep over criticism over his rant.

                I’ve got nothing against you really. I just wish to say that you’re being a bit hypocritical (I don’t see a red line so I’ll assume it’s an actual word) having mini-rants over rants to Mike’s rant. Boy, that’s a mouthful. Some of the disagreeing voices are a bit less civil but you aren’t exactly above that in your responses. Do it without telling them to GTFO might make more people take it seriously.

        • LK says:

          I’m not defending people who are nasty toward the regular posters, but it’s not really the same situation. Mike is providing these people with a massive amount of free content. Disagreeing with him is fine, but personally insulting someone who’s doing that is different than doing it to a fellow poster on a message board, in my humble opinion.

          And, at this point, it’s pretty well established that Mike isn’t happy with the direction of the Yankees and doesn’t have a lot of faith in the quality of this year’s team. If you want to read about how great they are, this isn’t the site for you. I don’t read any other Yankee blogs at this point, but I’m sure there are others out there that are more optimistic about the state of the team.

    • Troll says:

      The great thing about the internet, aside from the infinite porn, is that you can check out whatever site your wee heart desires. If I were Mike I’d simply block your IP Address and never have you return. That’s me, though, and it would appear that Mike is a bigger man. So, instead of being a whiny li’l bitch and attacking the Editor in Chief of the website you’re writing on, be thankful that you even have a platform to disagree with, as well as a platform to disagree on.

      And, while you’re at it, send me the link of YOUR website so I can kindly check it out. Deal?

      • Bob Buttons says:

        Good job! One of the rare posts where you did not tell people to GTFO or GFY after they say they disagree with Mike! We are making great progress!

        • Troll says:

          GTFO or GFY. Your choice. And I use acronyms, which is progress in and off itself because, as you’ll see, I almost never curse on this site. Bitch and twat are practically commonplace, even in the public stratosphere of non-subscription based television.

  107. Above and Beyond says:

    I think eventually we would look back at this point and just have a laugh about it. I think this is like the Atlanta closed door meeting was it? Something like that.

    Not saying that by the end of the year everything would be fixed, but I think that by the end of the year, things would be much much better.

  108. forensic says:

    In other news, I wonder what kind of roster moves we’ll see tomorrow. You would certainly think Warren has to go down since he’s unavailable for at least the entire Angels series. Maybe Claiborne too since he’s been used 3 straight days and was apparently dragging out there according to Girardi. Kelley also has options, so who knows if he might even go, though I’d kind of doubt that.

    Nova just threw 90 pitches 2 days ago, so he’s certainly still unavailable for at least one more day, maybe two, so that might be a tough call-up. Betances threw 28 pitches 2 days ago, so he might get a desperation call-up. Maybe it’ll even be an opportunity for Cabral or even a Turley, since they’re on the 40-man. Marshall pitched tonight, so he’s out of the conversation.

    As for the offense, do they finally bite the bullet and do something with Adams or Overbay. Would that be too much of a ‘desperation’ move? With an open 40-man spot, could we see Neal or Mustelier finally get a chance?

    Of course, it could just be one pitcher move to have a fresh arm, but it’d be interesting if they chose to make several choices and shake it up a little at this point.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      I’d co-sign on a few of those. Don’t see the point in Overbay, at this point and, if one of these fringe types can actually provide some defense out there and swing a non-zero bat, they could spell the severely dragging vets a bit.

      Lose Warren for ten days? Would rather not see Marshall again, but it is mop-up work and these guys do have options.

      I feel like we’ve gone too far with the Stairs thing to just lose him. Can he stick in the bigs for 90 days, though? Can’t we just send Boston a bag of balls like the Twins did with us for Jason Jones, or whatever his name was?

      • forensic says:

        10 days for Warren is a little tough, but it’s not like he’s in an irreplaceable role, as you mentioned.

        Cabral’s rehab window is up so might as well throw him out there for 10 days and see what happens (though he’s a little more specialized and not really suited for long relief).

        I wasn’t a fan of the Overbay to the OF move from the start, and still don’t get it. He’s got a sub-.290 OBP. Is that really so valuable that you take that big a step down defensively in the OF? He’s also not hitting for his fluky power currently anyway, so where’s the value?

        • Robinson Tilapia says:

          There is no value. It’s smoke and mirrors from the few clutch hits. His biggest value, to me, was in his play at first.

          Tex is healthy. He’s not effective, but he’s healthy. It’s time.

          • LK says:

            You’re right, but the problem is there’s no value from Ichiro or Wells either. The Yankees are 24th in OF fWAR, and 28th in wRC+, and that’s with Gardner having a really good year.

            Does Overbay suck as an outfielder? Yes, most definitely. But the Yankees are going to be starting 2 OFs who suck every day until either Granderson comes back or a trade is made.

            • forensic says:

              Well, that’s where Neal/Mustelier come in. At least there’s a chance they hit for a couple weeks (or better if they’re lucky). If they don’t hit, then what’s the difference from what they’re currently running out there anyway? I think it’s pretty safe to safe that Wells is completely cooked and while Ichiro will have periodic good weeks and still plays defense, his complete lack of power and discipline put a limit on what he can contribute.

              • LK says:

                I get what you’re saying, and I certainly would not be upset in the least to see those 2 get a shot.

                But, we don’t really know what they would do in MLB; the Yanks don’t know either, for sure, but they do know better than us. They clearly realize their OF situation is atrocious or they never would’ve run Overbay out there in the first place. To me, the fact that they haven’t gotten the call yet indicates that NYY thinks they suck even more than the dreck currently playing corner outfield. For the moment, I’m going to trust their judgment that that’s right.

                • forensic says:

                  You’re more trusting than me then. :-)

                  This is the same thing they do every year and it leads to the same issues every off-season. They refuse to give someone a shot to see if they may be able to do something at the MLB level. Then, the off-season comes and they’re stuck hunting out the Wells’, Ichiro’s, and Overbay’s of the world because no one in their own system has been given a shot to see if they can find anything out about those players.

                  • Dalek Jeter says:

                    I agree with forensic. These guys should get a chance, but don’t. I mean literal worst case scenario is their somehow worse than the 66 wRC+ Ichiro has put up, meanwhile the best case for Ichiro is he somehow manages to return to his 2012 level of 90wRC+ and the upside for Neal/Musty/Almonte figures to be higher than that. I’m just saying, I remember a time back in 2005 when the Yankees were fed up from the terrible play they were getting by an over-the-hill-former-above-average player and gave a supposedly meh bat, slick fielding 2nd base prospect a try…and if my memory serves me well it worked out quite nicely.

                    • LK says:

                      As my comment says below, I’m ready for them to get a shot, too, I was more just playing devil’s advocate and pointing out that there’s no guarantee that they’ll be any better.

                      Cano would certainly be the best example to buttress your case (though Neal and Musty weren’t in his class, even if he wasn’t one of the super elite prospects). He was anything but slick fielding when he first came up though; I think it was even an open question whether he’d be able to stick at 2nd. The fact that he’s gotten so good really highlights how fucking ridiculous it is that people call him lazy with a straight face.

                  • LK says:

                    I hear what you’re saying. I guess I’ve just heard too many people complain about how Player X is rotting in AAA and the Yanks won’t give him a shot, only to have Player X end up in Japan the following season or be below replacement level when he finally surfaces. At this point, I’d pretty much support any move that allows the Yanks to play a lineup that doesn’t include either Ichiro or Wells. Seriously, like ANY move.

                • The Doctor says:

                  We don’t know for sure but I think relatively polished hitters like Mustelier and Almonte could at very least have a few weeks of success while the league doesn’t have full scouting reports on them. Call one of them up until Granderson’s back, the worst case is you get basically the exact same production we’ve seen from Ichiro and Wells. It takes a real effort to be any worse.

  109. FIPster Doofus says:

    Mike’s telling it the way it is. Don’t like it? Wake up to reality. The offseason was a fucking embarrassment, and it’s starting to take its toll in the standings. This team’s a boring, punchless pile of shit.

    • BronxBombers? says:

      I can’t believe I’m saying this but I agree with the Doofus. This is what this joke of a major league team is doing to me!

    • LK says:

      The other aspect of this is that there’s just no connection to many of these players. Generally, the Yankee players have either been on the team a while, or will be on the team a while. Look at 2009:

      C – Posada – on the team for over a decade
      1B – Teixeira – under contract for 7 more years
      2B – Cano – on the team since 2005, under control for 4 more seasons
      SS – Jeter – on the team for over a decade
      3B – A-Rod – on the team since 2004, signed for 8 more years
      LF – Damon – on the team since 2006
      CF – Melky – on the team since 2006
      RF – Swisher – under control for 3 more years
      DH – Matsui – on the team since 2004
      SP1 – Sabathia – under contract for 6 more years
      SP2 – Burnett – under contract for 4 more years
      SP3 – Pettitte – on the team for over a decade (despite the Astros fling)
      SP4 – Joba – under control for 4 more years

      That whole team was either guys we had gotten to know, or guys that we knew would be around long enough to get to know. The team this year just doesn’t have very many guys like that (a lot of that is of course caused by all the injuries). I know we root for the laundry, but it’s hard for me to get THAT excited about cheering on Youkilis, Vernon Wells, Ichiro, Overbay, and Nix every single day.

      • FIPster Doofus says:

        I totally agree. Because of injuries and poor management, a lot of these guys are nothing but mercenaries who are crappy at baseball. Where’s the fun in that?

      • forensic says:

        Absolutely. I was trying to make this point the other days in a group of comments about the dropping TV ratings too. You really laid it out well and better though.

        • LK says:

          Yeah it’s a huge part of the dropping ratings/attendance.

          The other thing that I think is often missed is that, especially early in the season, it’s not actual team performance that drives those things, but *expectation* of team performance. There’s a reason why BAL fans took so long to start showing up to Camden last year but have been much better this year. While this team has a pretty good record, most people thought they’d be doing worse, and that’s what informs the decision to go to a game or watch it. If they keep winning it will pick up by the end of the season, I think (though if they start losing it could also get worse).

      • I'mVernonI'mVernon4U says:

        This was a very insightful post. Well done.

  110. Ramondo says:

    It’s so sad that the best piece I have ever read from you had to be so critical of this organization that we love BUT it is what it is!! AMEN for everything you wrote!! Rants are good!!

  111. Above and Beyond says:

    This would be a good read for us all.


    • Robinson Tilapia says:


    • Bob Buttons says:

      A sequel called Zen Baseball Commenting wouldn’t hurt either.

    • FIPster Doofus says:

      Zen baseball works better when you’re actually treated to watching a talented lineup, one you know will break out of slumps when it gets into them. There’s no reason for panic when your favorite team has a loaded offense. This year’s offense, though? Pathetic. Catcher, shortstop, third base and the corner outfield spots are all black holes. Plus, Teixeira takes forever to get going and Hafner has slowed down a lot since his red-hot start. That leaves Gardner and Cano, the latter of whom is having a disappointing year by his own standards. Blah.

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        No, actually. Zen baseball is supposed to work best when your team is complete shit. Astros fans could benefit from some zen baseball.

      • Above and Beyond says:

        But isn’t that what Zen baseball is? Just enjoying baseball and recognizing that a team wouldn’t forever have a talented lineup.

        Now, it is an entirely different matter if one can enjoy watching a game wherein one almost always loses (or just does not win that often).

        • FIPster Doofus says:

          “Now, it is an entirely different matter if one can enjoy watching a game wherein one almost always loses (or just does not win that often).”

          I can when it comes to the other horrible teams for which I root. The Yankees, though? They’re on another plane. They’re supposed to be excellent, so it’s tougher for me to be cool with it when they play horribly for extended stretches.

          • LK says:

            While I’d expect you’ll catch some heat as a “spoiled Yankee fan” for saying this, it’s definitely true. This team is currently 69th in franchise history in win%. ’95, ’00, and ’08 are the only worse years in the last 20. An expectation has been set (and encouraged by the organization with their “anything less than a WS is failure” quotes), and this team is currently a little below that expectation. The scary thing is that they’re probably playing over their heads.

            It’s easy to say that we should just be appreciative, but honestly, compared to almost every individual in human history, and most individuals alive today, we’re all living lives of luxury and don’t have a right to complain about anything. We’re all spoiled in our own way. It’s the way human beings are.

            • Bob Buttons says:

              95 00 08 13

              One of these years is not like the other. Maybe we still have hope.

              • forensic says:

                Hope for next year maybe, not so much for the rest of this year. (assuming I’m looking at it the same way as you…)

                • LK says:

                  I’m guessing he’s referring to the 2000 WS (who are actually the worst Yankee team by regular season winning percentage of the last 21 years – yep, even the ’93 Yanks were better). Win 11 games at the right time, and people will forget a lot of warts.

                  • forensic says:

                    I was thinking more about missing or not advancing in the playoffs such as 08 and 95 (I had also tried blocking out that they made the playoffs but blew it that year). Don’t know what I was thinking about 00, other than that it was the worst of the group of champions so I must’ve knocked it down somehow.

                    But then, in 96, 01, and 09 they won it all or at least made the World Series, which is why next year they have a chance.

                    Nevermind though, I kicked the shit out of that one… :-)

                  • Bob Buttons says:

                    Probably won’t win at that pace but our competitors in the east ain’t what they used to be either. Ain’t no Pedro or Manny/Papi combo left. Plus, an extra WC might come in handy.

                • forensic says:

                  Sorry, don’t know what I was thinking, misread the 00 year.

                  • Bob Buttons says:

                    No worries it’s late night. Letters can get funny on you in a hurry.

                    • forensic says:

                      Been staring at this damn thread for WAY too long. Everything is blending together at this point…

                    • Bob Buttons says:

                      Same. Better part of the night spend in this giant mess, and I have to get up early tomorrow.

                      Not sure if I’ve seen a division this size but it’s gonna get uglier if they miss the playoffs.

              • LK says:

                That’s the thing, if they can get in, anything can happen, especially if the SP gets hot at the right time.

    • Pat D says:

      This is what I was trying to say in my post earlier, I just didn’t remember where the “Zen baseball” concept originated.

    • vicki says:

      i remember that. i felt then the way i do now. you may as well suggest to me zen roller-coaster-riding. we like amusement park rides and scary movies and zombie-killing video games and haunted houses because of the suspension of disbelief. the brief-but-very-real fear and rage, in a controlled, tidy little simulated world.

      ultimately the results of a yankee game have little impact on my real life. maybe my mood, good or bad, for a few minutes or hours. but there’s legit catharsis in letting it matter while it’s happening.

      baseball is the greek theatre!

      • forensic says:

        ultimately the results of a yankee game have little impact on my real life. maybe my mood, good or bad, for a few minutes or hours. but there’s legit catharsis in letting it matter while it’s happening.

        Agree with this. Lives and careers (some more than others) can be very stressful and baseball is one of my outlets to try to relieve some of that stress. I’m not going to take a viewpoint where I care less about or react less to the games because I’ve invested so much of my life being interested in them and now it helps me relieve some stress and unwind from tough days. Some of the games will help more than others, but that’s life and I’ll deal with the low’s to get the (usually) more common high’s.

  112. Fez says:

    I keep wondering when the Hal and Hank will start to claim the Yankees are a “small market” franchise lol. if Denver, Miami, Dallas/FT Worth, Minneapolis/ST Paul, Baltimore/DC, and Oakland/SF metroplex can all plead small market the past decade despite being some of the not only most populated communities in the country according to the 2010 census, but also some of the most affluent as well. why not claim NYC is small market; or even split it up and claim the Bronx is a separate entity and in fact IS a small market.

  113. LK says:

    This is certainly much farther than I would’ve gone, and I’m sure was fueled by watching the team be completely unable to hit for 6 solid hours. However, the bitching about how Mike has ruined his reputation because an article that’s capped with “/rant” was overly reactionary is pretty laughable.

    There’s certainly *some* truth here, to the team not going fully going for it in a year when Mo (and likely Pettitte) will be leaving, and when they were probably set up better for this year than they are for the next couple, when some of the players on massive contracts become completely useless. It’s very difficult to see how they can actually put together a better roster for 2014, even if they don’t stick to the payroll plan. Hal’s line about how they signed a lot of top free agents was definitely insulting to anyone who’s actually paying attention. The farm does seems to produce more above average rankings than above average big leaguers.

    On a different note, I’m starting to get a little tired of everyone falling back on the injuries as an excuse. Remember when Red Sox fans tried to play that card a couple years ago? How many people who are currently blaming the injuries thought that was justified at the time?

    Yes, they’ve had an above-average number of position player injuries this year, but it’s getting to be blown out of proportion. FIrst of all, when you have one of the oldest teams in baseball, you should assume that you’re going to have an above average amount of injuries. I’ve heard so many people talk about how they’ll hit when they get the whole lineup healthy – they’re probably not going to. Most teams don’t have their full lineup of players at any given time, especially teams that have essentially no significant position players still in their 20s.

    Some of the injuries they knew about before the season and had plenty of time to react accordingly (A-Rod, and while they couldn’t have known Jeter would have a setback, him playing 150+ was always a pipe dream). Some of the guys who have been hurt are of questionable quality anyway (Nunez, Cervelli, Youkilis, even Jeter and A-Rod would fit here to some degree given their ages). The rotation, which contains 2 of the 3 oldest starters in baseball, has been remarkably healthy, with only a few missed starts from Pettitte and an injury to Nova, who has completely sucked for a while now. If the team had the exact same number of injuries, but they were more balanced between the lineup and the rotation, it would be less noticeable despite doing the same amount of damage.

  114. jessica says:

    “They’re paying those two wastes of a roster spot — not to mention Kevin Youkilis, what a gem of a signing that has been — a combined $26M through next year, when they’re trying to cut payroll below the luxury tax threshold….
    The actions say the club lacks direction.”

    I think this part is difficult to argue with.

    Longer term, the problem is that New York major league teams have used their greater financial backing to achieve dominance on the field. That goes back well into the 1800s before there even was an American League.
    Yankee dominance ended in the 1960s because of the introduction of the draft system. George Steinbrenner was able to restore dominance thanks to the introduction of free agency and because he had the business talent to greatly increase the club’s income.
    The problem right now is that all the steps taken to level the financial playing field have taken effect and at the same time, many other teams have imitated the Yankees business model of running their own exceedingly profitable cable network. Thus, for example the rise of the Texas Rangers. With all the rules about draft slot dollar values and an international draft, it is hard to see where even what is left of the financial dominance can be put to use. So the only way to stay at the top will be to run a superior baseball organization.
    Brian Cashman was an effective GM in the days when the Yankees both had and could make use of a financial advantage over everyone else. It would not be surprising if different conditions required a different GM with a different talent set.

    • Deep Thoughts says:

      Complaining about the Youkilis signing is disingenuous; it was an emergency stopgap in response to A-Rod’s hip surgery and Adams’s inexperience at 3B. 2012 Chavez was catching lightning in a bottle, and letting him walk to be closer to home was the right move at the time.

      I have no defense for the Ichiro contract in particular. To draw conclusions about lacking direction, however, is a leap.

      Believe it or not, what Cashman is doing is exactly what is necessary under the new collective bargaining and contractual environment. The main thing he can’t do much about is the remaining decline years of the A-Rod and Tex contracts in particular.

  115. fin says:

    Ehh, I dont know what people expected from this team. They let Martin and Swisher walk for clear down grades, and Arod and Jeter were hurt before the offseason even started. This was an ugly, ugly offense before injuries happened. Youklis was a 50/50 shot, it turned out bad, but I cant blame the Yankees for taking that risk. How they choose to throw money at Ichiro and Take on Wells is beyond me and its really sad that we will be watching them play next year. As ugly as this offense is, next years could be even worse. There is no help coming from MiLB next year. Austin, Heathcott and Williams all have taken a step back and look along way from MLB right now. Sanchez is still in A ball.

    I didn’t bother buying the MLB package this year because I didn’t have any desire to watch this team play 4 or 5 times a week and I’m glad I made that choice as this team would be painful to watch on a nightly basis, at best you get a couple of innings of offense out them seems more often than not, its one inning or none.

  116. mustang(The Has Been & Wannabes Bunch 2013) says:



    On Friday June 14 2013 The New York Yankees Major League Baseball team is 3 games back in their division and half game back form Wild Card. Today was game number 66 of 162 that means there are 96 more games and these are the facts.
    I wonder how many teams would love to live with these facts.

    The only saving grace for Mike is that he ends this thread with word “rant”. This tells me that the founder of this great site is just having an off night.

    rant (r nt)
    v. rant•ed, rant•ing, rants
    To speak or write in an angry or violent manner; rave.

    “In a controversy the instant we feel anger we have already ceased striving for the truth, and have begun striving for ourselves.”

    • mustang(The Has Been & Wannabes Bunch 2013) says:


      AND THIS !!!

      NAILED IT!

    • Troll says:

      You don’t really add much, do you?

      • Bob Buttons says:

        His wanna-be and has been awards are kinda cool.

        • vicki says:

          except that their subtext is the same arrogance and cockiness mike referred to at the top of the page.

          • mustang(The Has Been & Wannabes Bunch 2013) says:

            When the team record matches the constant bitching about its weakness then talk to me about “arrogance and cockiness”.

            Its game 66 of 162 and check the standings aren’t you guys all about the numbers.

          • Bob Buttons says:

            We can’t change anything with this lemon-ish of a team, so might as well make some lemonade out of it.
            It sucks that the team is pretty crap, but crap or not it’s still our team and we should still cheer for the team.

            • mustang(The Has Been & Wannabes Bunch 2013) says:

              It’s more about just making fun of people who so ingrained in their beliefs that they disavow what’s happening in front them.

              YES this team has some serious issues, but they been successful to this point and have time to fix them.

              If I didn’t know any better I would think that some people are waiting around to see this team fail just to say I TOLD YOU SO. This to me is the ultimate example of arrogance and cockiness.

      • mustang(The Has Been & Wannabes Bunch 2013) says:

        What is there to add that you guys haven’t already gone over 100 times?

        The facts I wrote are all that matter everything else is a bunch of people with torches and pitchforks so why add to the hysteria.

      • JobaWockeeZ says:

        What would we do without daily reminders of how Montero sucks and how it’s better to be a rudimentary caveman than to sue statistics? But without him I cannot be amazed of how a caveman can sue a computer…

  117. Dalek Jeter says:

    Jeez, and I thought the comment section of the first game in Oakland was an abortion. With fellow fans like these, who needs Red Sox fans?

    • mustang(The Has Been & Wannabes Bunch 2013) says:

      Imagine if they were this LOL

      “They aren’t 10 games below .500, they aren’t 5 games below .500, they aren’t 15 games back of the division”

  118. bkight says:

    The biggest complaint I have with Cashman is not going hard enough after the international Free Agents. There is no salary cap or spending limit, at least there wasn’t, for guys like Chapman, Cespedes, Yu Darvish, Puig, Sano and others. I know they can’t win them all, but the Yankees biggest weapon is money and all of these guys could’ve been had. The Yankees are always said to be involved, but it doesn’t seem like serious interest to me.

    They will never draft in the top 5 unless they really stink and teams are locking up their young stars before FA. The Yankees have to either get real aggressive in trading or continue with the washed up, hope to get lucky vets. I would rather rebuild for a year or two than play this brand of mediocre, boring baseball. Maybe a trade of Cano can get us 2 or 3 young studs and if he goes then let the fire sale begin.

    • LK says:

      Really couldn’t agree more with the first paragraph. I remember hearing an anonymous quote from the Yankee front office saying it was crazy to pay that much for Darvish when he’s unproven. Guess what? If he were proven, he would’ve cost twice as much. And the fact that the posting fee doesn’t count against the luxury tax means his sticker price is even subject to an effective discount from the perspective of the Yankees. What’s the point of having all that money if you won’t gamble it when the upside is that high?

      • bkight says:

        It’s like they over-reacted to the failure that was Igawa(was never as highly regarded as Dice-K) and got gun shy. Darvish and Puig in pinstripes right now would have me feeling a whole lot better.

      • Mike says:

        And the worst part is their foray into the Intl market really powderd their team and made up for a crappy development system ( Soriano, El Duqe, Matsui)

  119. hogsmog says:

    A little extreme, no? I mean, yeah a lot of this is true, and I can see why Mike is mad, but I think that calling this one particular series the ‘boiling point’ is needlessly sensational?

    One thing I really do like about RAB rather than other sports blogs is that the writers don’t get worked up or angry or overly jubilant due to day-to-day events and single games. Yes, they are fans, yes they have an emotional investment, but if I wanted to hear that I’d listen to Francesa.

    I think a post like this would have felt more right to me as part of an “All Star Break State of the Union” or something. It just seems out of character to publish this after a heartbreaking loss when blood’s running hot.

  120. Tar says:


    That was brilliant piece ( all true) and took guts to write. Not many “journalists” out there would call it like it is against the Yankees. Thanks for articulating what I and may others have been saying for quite some time. I am a new loyal fan.

  121. Elan says:

    I compiled the following notes about the game. I am, honestly, so embarrassed by these numbers. The Yankees should be ashamed of themselves.

    -Out of the following positions (1B, 3B, SS, C, LF, DH), the Yankees went 2-41 (a .049 Average) with 14 Strikeouts!!! Mark Teixeira (1B) went 0-5 with 3 Strikeouts; Kevin Youkilis went 0-7 with 3 Strikeouts; Jayson Nix (SS) went 1-5 with 1 Strikeout, while Lyle Overbay (PH) went 0-1 and Reid Brignac (SS) went 0-1 (each had no Strikeouts); Chris Stewart (C) went 1-6 with 1 Strikeout; Vernon Wells (LF) went 0-8 with 3 Strikeouts; and Travis Hafner (DH) went 0-8 with 3 Strikeouts.

    -ELEVEN runners were left on-base in extra innings (one runner on 2nd in the 10th with 2 outs, bases loaded with 1 out in the 11th, 1st and 2nd with 2 outs in the 12th, 1st and 2nd with no outs in the 13th, and bases loaded with 2 outs in the 14th).

    -For the game, the Yankees went 1-13 with Runners In Scoring Position.

  122. EndlessJose says:

    This is why I didn’t like the Wells trade.Anybody can hit 20 homers in this park but the yankees are trying to get too much out of these replacements.

    They need hitting and why keep Stewart when he ain’t even a good defensive player.

  123. Kramerica Industries says:

    You know, call this a byproduct of being spoiled by past successes, maybe, but with the Yankee payroll at what it’s at, I think it’s justified:

    when the hell did we ever get satisfied with just being in the running for the division? When the hell did that become anything resembling the goal? I’m not demented enough to say that it’s World Series or bust every season, and that falling short of that means that the season was a total failure. We all know Steinbrenner was nuts with that philosophy of his.

    On the other hand, you look at the Yankees payroll, still in excess of well over $200M and the highest in the sport yet again, and that only leaves us with two options of how to assess the goings on:

    1) HORRENDOUS inefficiency to have a payroll well over $200M to have a subpar roster (and this is a team-wide thing; I’m not pinning ARod and Ichiro on Cashman, he hasn’t been the entire reason for this).

    2) We have every right and reason to expect this team to compete for a championship.

    And, current record or not, I can tell for damn certain that this is not a championship roster. This is a 2011 Rays type roster at BEST, which may get you to the playoffs, but leaves you no threat to win a championship. A superior roster (Detroit? Oakland? Boston?) will eventually steam roll this team if it came to that in a playoff setting.

    My main point is essentially this – are we spoiled? Of course we are. We have seen a lot more winning baseball than losing baseball since 1994. For that, we should all be thankful. However, when the team routinely posts the highest payroll in baseball, well, dammit, they damn well better have a winning product, no? And when they have an off-season like they did, basically doing a low-brow “reload” and still claiming to be a team with a roster built to “win now”, and the end results we see are a team that has a bunch of broken down has-beens who are combining to go hitless in 28 FUCKING AB’S in a given game, well, it’s going to piss some people off, and I can’t blame any of those people for that.

    It’s classic two-faced pandering to the fanbase. And, as Mike said, it is quite insulting to be told, when anyone with a damned brain can see otherwise.

  124. King George says:

    I literally read 474 comments before I delved into this one…

    Look, I don’t really blame Mike for his post. It wasn’t a rant because, quite frankly, it’s the truth. So if you really don’t like it or somehow find it unprofessional, I’m sure you can leave and Axisa won’t give a shit. The dude gets tens of thousands of hits per day from around the world. No skin off his back if you leave, I’m sure. He’s pissed off. Any time you run a blog and follow a team that you’re personally and emotionally invested in, things happen and you’re gonna be a little miffed from time to time when things go awry.

    The only issue I feel compelled to bring up is the money issue. I’m fortunate enough to be around baseball; two of my family friends play in MLB right now and their involvement has intensified my love for baseball. I am a Yanks fan tried and true. But there comes a point when the money becomes a little ridiculous. I mean $45 for an upper level seat? I’m getting my MBA right now and my soon to be fiancée (proposing on the 4th of July…hope she says yes) wants to go to New York for our annual 10-day trip and we try and see 5-6 games a year and visit the fam…do you know how insane that is to pay those prices with the quality they’re showcasing? I mean, shit. Imagine a family of four, wanting to raise their kids as Yankees fans…for some families, a trip to the park is 1/4 of a paycheck. So much for fun. We’re going to the Angels-Yanks game tomorrow and they’re notorious for jacking the prices up with their additions and we found lower level tickets for $45. I mean, there comes a point where you find the Steinbrenners to be offensive in their approach toward fans. “Oh we signed the best three free agents on the market.” Yeah right, Hal. Suck one dude. They’re pulling the wool over the fans’ eyes.

    Colin Cowherd, love him or not, made an incredible point earlier this week when talking about the Yankees fans and their lack of attendance and tv ratings. He said “Yankee fans aren’t fickle, they’re some of the smartest fans in the game. They aren’t going to the games because they’re fair weather fans; it’s because they know what a good product is and a bad product is. They know when they’re getting quality. This team isn’t quality.”

    Sorry, that’s the one beef I have. Don’t tell me that the team is Kobe beef when it’s really a cafeteria filet. And for those hating on the farm system…look, we got three solid first rounders. Grandy is gone, likely Hughes is too. Robbie, jury is still out on. There’s a strong chance we will have three more first round picks next year. 6 first round picks in 2 years is a GMs wet dream. Not to mention Pineda, De Paula, Austin, and Sanchez…heck maybe Slade and Williams pull their heads out. Help is on the way.

    Now I’m done.

  125. Stratman9652 says:

    While Mike kind of crossed into “whining” territory with this one it is kind of hard to argue several of the points.

    Wells, Ichiro and whatever other stop gap corner OF guys they are gonna end up using over the next few years will probably end up costing as much if not more than Swisher would have for considerably less value. Keep in mind Swisher’s value as a competent 1B fill in. Woulda been handy to have when Tex went down wouldn’t he? Resigning Swisher aside, I still don’t understand how you say you want to cut the budget and then go and pickup the ghosts of Ichiro and Wells for multiple years.

    I really can’t argue with the Youklis signing, they needed a legitimate 3B option and he was pretty much all there was. With ARod bound to return for the next half century, trading for a long term guy like Headley and having one of them ride the pine half the time doesn’t make much sense. He hasn’t been great but I’d be hard pressed to argue that he wasn’t the best option.

    Clearly, the catcher spot was the most glaring weakness. Again not many options but it was pretty frustrating that the company line was “We are confident in what we got” when what they have are backups at most. To let Martin walk without so much as an offer is ridiculous. Hell, its not like he’s setting the world on fire but at least he is a viable starter.

    The bottom line is, the team has far too much money tied up in far too few guys and when those guys suck/get hurt it leaves no room for improvement especially when they are trying to cut the budget. The fact is they screwed themselves out of getting to $189m long ago with the ARod contract and the pre-09 season pickups. Getting a ring out of it made it worth it at the time but it has come back to bite them in the ass. When you mix the fact that they already burnt their payroll flexibility a long time ago with those guys with the fact they wanted to make a huge budget cut it only leaves room to search the scrap heap.

    • LK says:

      I don’t think he’s going to keep it up, but Russell Martin is currently 4th in fWAR among C behind only Mauer, Molina, and Posey. His fWAR would rank 2nd on the Yanks, nestled between Gardner and Cano, and his wRC+ would be 3rd on the team, essentially tied with Gardner and Hafner and behind only Cano (this excludes Cervelli and Boesch who both have very few PAs). I’m not sure what your definition of setting the world on fire is, but Martin’s been excellent so far this year.

      Thus far the Cervelli/Stewart experiment has workout pretty well though, much to my surprise. The issue has been Romine who’s been just downright putrid. Well, him and the left side of the IF and the corner OF.

    • forensic says:

      Eh, Martin leaving still doesn’t bother me one bit. He’s done the same thing this season that he did for his time in NY, put together a great week or two maybe a couple times a year in the middle of a ton of blah (or worse). Not nearly worth the money he would’ve needed, IMO.

      This season:
      April 1-17 (12 games): .103/205/.154
      April 18-30 (12 games): .422/.469/.911 (with 6 of his 7 HR’s on the season)
      May 3-June 12 (27 games): .232/.336/.316

      That last one could also be split up into:
      May 3-June 5 (22 games): .208/.315/.260
      June 7-12 (5 games): .333/.429/.556

      He may be on another week or two streak (though it’s too early to really know), but again, it’s just not worth it to me.

      • Bob Buttons says:


        He is too inconsistent over the season. For 8.5 mil a year I’d rather get someone who can hit above the mendoza line for most weeks.

        • LK says:

          There is no such thing as a consistent baseball player.

          Martin is 4th among C in fWAR this year. Catching hasn’t been the Yankees’ biggest issue so far (though the season isn’t over), but Martin’s been legitimately awesome this year, and no amount of slicing the season up is going to change that. However he got there, right now he’d be in the running for 2nd best hitter on the team behind Cano, and he’s a plus defensive catcher.

  126. Pat D says:


    Maybe Mike should go off on rants more often. It seems like it will illicit a response from pretty much everyone.

    • forensic says:

      His post doesn’t even have a single A-Rod or steroids mention. Usually that’s the kind of thing that shoots the visits and comments through the roof.

      Maybe Mike’s just sitting at home right now counting the site visits and seeing the ad (and whatever other sources) money roll in saying his plan worked to perfection… ;-)

    • Kramerica Industries says:

      Reminds me of the days when most full RAB postings had hundreds of comments. Many times, post game recaps don’t even reach 100 anymore.

      I do miss the RAB of the past at times, that’s for sure.

  127. stuart a says:

    did not read all the comments. Read Mikes scread. Disagree on a few points. spending long term big money on what? there was nothing worth buying. Cashman tried the short term low cost fix.. I assume Ichiro for year 2 was not cashmans idea…

    I have no problem with the moves, I have a problem with not making changes now.. Bring up a youn OF, give it a damn try. Trade a arm if you can get a upgrade in the OF or on the left side of the infield… They are not bringing back Joba, trade him. Claiborne is a find…

    THey have been decimated by injuries, Nunez is 25 he should not be out for 8 weeks with a core injury.

    youkilis is a 1 year deal, can you really argue with the attempt?

    I trade a few chips for Headley and forget about aroid etc.

    trade 3 prospects and a arm off the big club for headley and a piece back, or at least try to make that move. I am tired of signing the over the hill past there prime guys, I rather suffer with young guys and see if they develop. Granderson being hurt, Kills. THey might have been able to move him before the deadline depending on circumstances.

  128. Get Phelps Up says:

    I wrote up a nice big reply to this but it apparently got eaten by the spam filter or something even though I can’t imagine what I said, so I’ll just say that it looks like I missed quite the day here at River Ave Blues…

    I don’t disagree with the entirety of the article per say, but I think I’m not alone in saying that unless Mike simply wanted to write something that he knew would generate lots of pageclicks, it would have been better for everyone if he write an article discussing these things in the morning after a good night’s sleep rather than right after an 18 inning loss. We can admit the Yanks have issues but no need to stoop down to the level of ESPN NY. You wouldn’t guess this team was even close 8 games over .500 by reading this.

    And for the love of christ, enforce the commenting guidelines or remove them. I also don’t think I’m alone with that opinion.

    • Kramerica Industries says:

      It was a lot easier to enforce said guidelines when there were three of them here. Joe was amazing at shutting down assclowns.

      • Get Phelps Up says:

        Yes I’m sure it is easier for 3 people to police a comment section than 1, but how hard can it be to see assholes like Troll and dalelama that contribute absolutely nothing to the discussion and hinder the enjoyment of the site to others. I don’t know what happened to our offseason friend Theodore, but if he was banned and those two are still around, I can’t say I would understand the logic behind that.

  129. BigBlueAL says:

    Serenity now!!

  130. Bavarian Yankee says:

    wow, now that’s what I call blowing things WAY out of proportion, Mike.

    In the end the Yanks just lost because the ump blew a call.

    • Bavarian Yankee says:

      edit: well, just read that the A’s run was safe. tbh I didn’t think so and apparently the commentators on the channel where I watched the game didn’t think so either.

  131. Little Jerry Sinefold says:

    Tex, Hafner, Yousless and Wells a combined 0-28 with 12 strikeouts. Yes, fat Francesa, I’m all over Tex. He’s a joke! I don’t care how good defensively he is. Offesnively, he’s well, offensive. I can pretty much say this about the whole Yankee offense. Youk’s gotta go, Hafner’s showing why his Cleveland career ended, Wells is showing why the Angels wanted him off their team and Ichiro, this experiment’s OVER!! Bring the young guys up and send these good for nothing has beens packing.

  132. JoeyA says:

    Welp, RAB jumped the shark, & Axisa got eaten in the process.

    This post is precisely why NYY fans get the rep of being spoiled fans. This whole rant is simply pathetic & Axisa has started to turn this blog to crap.

    Mike picks his favorite players while choosing others he deems shouldn’t be on the team. Hiroki Kuroda can gut thru 6 innings w/o his best stuff” & hes a hero. Phelps does that, & it’s “the results don’t tell the whole story. he barely escaped multiple jams & that luck won’t continue”

    Mike contradicted himself in his own rant, saying they shoulda spent more $$ than uses LAA as a cautionary tale.

    Do us a favor: if you’ve grown tired or bored of this job or simply have lost your passion for this team, please let someone else run things, especially if we are subject to posts like the one above.

    • The Other Sam says:

      It’s his opinion blog. He can write whatever and however he wants and you are free to not read it. There are other sites/writers that tow the FOs line in passionless dribble tones – Feinsand, Sweeney, and even Chad come to mind.

      I actually come here for this, someone who knows what they’re talking about telling it like it is.

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        FWIW, I liked Chad’s write-up on the game, and actually don’t feel he’s passionless.

        The best of the beat guys (and, for those of you who’ve been around that long, PeteAbe really was a great one, and that blog set the stage for ALL of this) made you forget they were paid journalists. That’s part of the reason Pete got shat on when he left to Boston – people truly thought he was a Yankee guy.

        I could lose Feinsand and Sweeney. Sure.

        • The Other Sam says:

          I enjoy reading Chad as well, just pointing out the difference in tone – in this case anyway. So Mike showed a little attitude this time. It’s understandable that he went there and unquestionable that he has every right to go there.

          The idea that an opinion writer should have to change his opinion and/or the expression of it to suit a given reader doesn’t sit well. Seems more sensible the reader seek out writing/sites he prefers elsewhere than to change someone else’s site (ie, the call for someoneelse to run it). Pretty nervy.

  133. LarryM Fl says:


    You are entitled to your opinion. I applaud you for speaking your mind. No one can complain about a half ass commentary. But I do not agree with your assessment about the signings of Well. Ichiro is one year too many. The farm system has shown the signs of picking 29 or 30 over the past decade plus every year or not picking at all in the first round with the signing of FA’s. This season and next were coming. It had too happen.

    The Yankees have a plan but the plan did not include Cervelli, Granderson (2x), Teixeria, Nunez getting hurt.Youkilis is a waste of 12 million. Jeter and Arod I could understand not playing or maybe never playing. Couple the injuries with Wells and Ichiro being exposed to many more at bats. The perfect storm has hit Yankee baseball. The front Office has no crystal ball but the first half results are starting to be written. Now the Yankees are in between jumping at crazy trades to make a go of the season or holding back fading and letting the kids play with the release of Overbay, Wells, and a host of the replacement players. You make plans and laugh at them later when the plans do not materialize.

    My hope is the Yankees some how get it together which I doubt. Have Granderson, Nunez and Jeter make it back. Go from there with all future plans. Do not sign Cano for more than 5 years give him his 20/25 million. Do not over extend on the years of the contract. Have the Yankees not learned from the long term contracts in place.

    When I make my annual trip to NYC. I will include a ball game. I have been a fan for over 55 years and to call this season over and ugly is funny. I have seen many worse than this especially coming out of one of the greatest eras in Yankee baseball the 50′s.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      Thanks, Larry.

      I don’t agree with some of your points but, boy, is the perspective of someone who’s seen multiple ups and down (and isn’t going to make every other word “Horace Clarke”) needed sometimes around here.

    • kenthadley says:

      many good points, but picking 29th and 30th could have been ameliorated by spending all those profits on IFA before the caps. That they chose not to do so reflects their bottom line fixation, and they have earned what they have right now. I think that Hal is content with being competitive for a playoff spot, but you do so by shooting for the top, not by shooting for the second wild card slot. He’s learning that you don’t build attendance by letting your stars age for years and not replacing them with younger stars…sorry Hal, this one’s on you. And Cashman is an average GM, which is ok unless you espouse Championship caliper aspirations as Hal does. As Mike says, cut the BS.

    • BeanTooth says:

      I came to age in the ’80s when the Yanks were just terrible. After the run the team has had, it’s almost inevitable for a return to such a period. I think Mike makes a lot of good points, though. The team seemed to approach the last offseason in a kind of trance, lulled by the team’s consistent performance to think they could start complying to an arbitrary austerity plan without laying the groundwork for it. So while Mike may have gone too far (something I can’t blame after that horror of a game/series), it is frustrating that the team appears to have made the inevitable worse than it needed to be.

  134. Manny's BanWagon says:

    500+ posts on a post game thread? Wow, just wow.

    Amazing how some people get so butt hurt when the Yankees get called out for putting together a substandard team like they did this year.

    You’d have thought that Mike ran over their dog by way they reacted here tripping over themselves rushing to the defense of Cashman and crew. Meanwhile, Mike is probably home laughing at the amount of hits his post provoked.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      I don’t exactly know who got “butt-hurt” here. There are long-time readers who didn’t enjoy the piece. There was about ten times more pitchfork-waving and “GTFO” to anyone not willing to carry one. Waking up this morning, I re-read it and actually like it even less. I find it completely unimaginative this morning, as in we all knew this would be a possibility back when we signed these guys, and anyone who’s been watching this team for more than a few years could guess shit would get though sometime the middle of this decade. It was a spectacular level of suckdom last night from these guys (I mean, that’s a crazy 0-fer from the middle of the order, just crazy), which definitely mitigates things a bit. I just could do without the same five, or so, points getting dragged out every day. I get it. I even agree with some of them. The rest? I don’t know.

      Did Hal try to put a paint job on a couple of used cars in the press and pass them off as new cars? Yeah, sure. I just don’t put a lot of weight in what gets said to the press. Papa Bear talked to the press every day. I still had to wait 18 years for a championship.

      Tickets are too expensive? Welcome to NYC. A friend of mine was apartment-hunting in the EV the other day in order to get out of the 354 Sq Ft. (!) she shares with her boyfriend. She looked at a place for 2K. Had to ask where the oven was. Realtor looked at her and said, “oh, you need an oven?” It’s NYC. Everything’s needlessly expensive.

      Team’s in a free fall and played at a level they couldn’t sustain? Maybe. Time will tell. We’ll all have our emotions. I won’t stop wearing the cap which splits time with my Heat cap (need to mark my territory in NYC – too much Nets shit) ever. Bring on 1991 again. I wore it then, I’ll wear it now.

      Looking forward to the mailbag. :)

  135. NYYROC says:

    Wow! Best thing I have ever read/ heard summing up what has transpired since the end of last season. Well done Mike.

  136. Yank since 1957 says:

    Mike, what an eye opener! THAT has to be the best thing I ever read to start an morning.

  137. gehrig27 says:

    Man, I´ve been a Yankees fan for 53 years, and I cannot recall a game more painful to watch than yesterday´s.

    I basically agree with the post, and what worries me most is that what transpires in most of the opinions, whether in favor or not, is that the team looks without strategy toward the future.

    Who is responsible? the obvious: management, scouts, farm system…By the way, I would like to read some good analysis on the obvious failure of the INTERNATIONAL farming and selection…The last Latin American Yankee player with a big impact has been CANO, and before him, maybe a certain guy called MARIANO RIVERA…In the meantime, there are dozens of players from Dominican Republic, Venezuela, Mexico, etc. such as CABRERA, SANDOVAL, CARLOS GONZÁLEZ, etc. who are having a great success; where have all our scouts been, in Mars? What about Japan? Texas signed Yu Darvish -I don´t see anybody in Texas complaining- the Yanks signed Kei Igawa…There will be less and less talent in free agency in the coming years, so the main place to look for impact players in the coming future might be abroad…

    • kenthadley says:

      Sort of reminds you of the late 60′s, doesn’t it? Team isn’t that bad, yet, but the futility is similar, and the signs of failure in player development are all carbon copies…Roger Repoz, Steve Whittaker, Dooly Womack were the studs coming up back then…oh, and they decided NOT to sign a kid out of Long Island back then because it was going to cost 100k…Carl Yaz-something…..the 60′s versions of Darvish, Puig, etc.

  138. Stan the Man says:

    I find this article difficult to read in many areas but when I read this: “Now the Bombers will go to Anaheim to face an Angels team that should serve as a scary warning should they not wise up and improve the way they go about building the club.”

    So the Yanks should build a team with aging middle of the order hitters to large contracts and forget about starting pitching?

    • Bob Buttons says:

      That part I think he just means “look at how crap the Angels are doing. Don’t do what they do.”

      Not sure I got that right since IMO LAA did what we did in 09 over the past few seasons.

      • Kramerica Industries says:

        I took it to mean that Anaheim has had an inadequate roster (as far as World Series hopes go) and that they have spent money like drunken sailors on imperfect solutions, instead of turning the roster over.

        I mean, it doesn’t take much to realize that Wilson, Pujols, and Hamilton were all bad contracts. No, no one had Albert and Hamilton falling apart this quickly, but I think we all knew those were distinct possibilities over the course of their contracts. And, with that having happened, look at the state of the Angels now. Basically, where Boston was last season until the Dodgers bailed them out of jail – high priced mediocrity for the foreseeable future.

  139. JerryJRC says:

    While there are some good pieces of your article, it has the ramblings of a typical NYY fan that expects to win every year, sign the best players in FA and trade for others teams best players with the marginal talent that NYY has in the minor leagues.

    Teams go through a life cycle. And NYY fans should appreciate the uncommon run of World Series and winning they have had since 1996. But because they can not produce in the minor leagues (and the same writer that bashed Cashman and his minor league system praised the likes of Joba and the “Killer B’s”) is the reason they are what they are. And still, your team is in a pennant race!

    Yankees fans were lucky in the early 90′s that Steinbrenner was banished from baseball (if you do not know this go look it up) and Gene Micheals was allowed to run this organization, stockpile the minors with talent and make shrewd trades.

    If you want to look at a organization that does it the right way and does not allow players that are over the hill (Posada, Jeter, Rivera) to dictate their playing span, go look at St. Louis. Perhaps instead of cheering the Giambi’s, the Tex’s and the Clemen’s you fans should have wished for the days of banning the Steinbrenner’s and running your team like St. Louis.

  140. Will in NJ says:

    Everybody who was crucifying Mike, claiming that this post was “below RAB standards”, and that they will never read RAB again because of it need to:

    1) Get a life. If you take a blog post that seriously something is severely wrong with you.

    2) Get off your high horse. If you disagree with Mike, that’s one thing: everybody is obviously entitled to their own opinions. But to act like Mike just committed a crime because his opinions do not agree with yours is laughable.

    We forget that Axisa is doing us a favor by blogging for RAB, arguably the best Yankees blog out there. Trying to tell him what he can or cannot post is just sad.

    • Pat D says:

      Maybe everything just blended together, but I don’t recall anyone telling Mike what he can and can’t post. I also don’t recall seeing anyone who threatened to never read RAB again. But I also don’t feel like scanning the whole post to see if you’re right or not, either, so if you have some evidence, feel free to prove me wrong.

  141. Dan says:

    I generally agree with everything you said Mike. I do not think you in any way ruined your reputation with this post. It was about time something wrote this about the yankees. While I would refrain from phrases such as “get bent,” I think a post like this is needed every once in awhile. You are doing us a favor by devoting your life to blogging, a tough task for sure. Its tough for all of us to see the yankees play this bad, but we may have to suffer through it.

  142. dc1874 says:

    Can the Yanks be charged with 2 loses…it was 18 innings !!!

  143. mac says:

    not much of a career so far, but fine use .757. Developing an AJax is not much of an accomplishment. Esp considering this teams resources and track record developong guys in the last 6+ years.

    Oh yeah, the guy they got for Mr. 757 gave the Yanks quite a bit.

  144. Darren says:

    As a fan, that’s EXACTLY the post I wanted to read. thank you!
    In the cold light of morning, I may not agree with every single sentiment, but after that kind of game, I want emotion, not some statistical analysis of the lifecycle of a team.

    Keep up the great work.

    As a side note, I still found it to be a good game to watch. I mean, the A’s also didn’t score more than 2 runs until the 18th, so it was a fun picthers’ duel and the Wells throw/Stewart catch was the play of the year so far.

  145. Mykey says:

    The reaction to this is hilarious.

  146. I'm not the droids you're looking for... says:

    Well that’s hours of my life I won’t get back. And I mean reading these comments, not watching the game.


    Mike’s post, and this thread, will be book marked forever as Item A in Evidence of Yankees fans entitlement. Most of us do not know suffering as fan the way fans of just about every other team does. I had the 80s and early 90s, but I also had the late 70s and 96 on to way more than balance that shit out.

    A miserable game from a meh team fielding a roster of Has Beens and Wannabees (™Mustang) filling in for aging, injured vets, that has nonetheless outperformed expectations on the whole leads to all this? Really?? I understand that it’s about (much) more than just this game but come on.

    Perspective people. Perspective.

    Maybe things will be more fun when the band wagon is a little less crowded. Zen of baseball indeed.

  147. OldYanksFan says:

    Brian Cashman has been talking about since getting his “autonomy” in 2005 actually produced a competent everyday player once in a while. Eduardo Nunez? Frankie Cervelli? lol.

    Phelps, Nuno, Warren?
    A number of kids 2 years away who look pretty good.

    Over the last 17 years, the Yankees have had the best record in MLB.
    Ergo, the have had the WORST draft picks.
    Add to that the additional picks lost to signing (Win Now!) Big FAs.
    Ergo, we SHOULD have the worst farm in the Majors.
    We should be 30th.
    Are we 30th? 25th? 20th?
    I think we are usually rated slightly above 15th?
    That to me seems pretty good.

    How many top 50 picks have TB, KC, Houston, Pittsburg and other bottom dwellers had?

    Have they had amazing success?
    Any ‘Failures’?

    And are failures due to scouting…. or maybe a players attitude, work ethic and ability to take instruction and adapt?

    I don’t think it’s so cut and dried.

    And is it possible that being in Win Now mode effects the time and patience the Yanks can spend on a player?

    It’s amazing the AAAA Brett Gardner is still on the team.
    75% of the people here would have dumped him.

    • Preston says:

      I’m as upset as Mike is that we’re paying 26 million to the Wells Ichiro duo. But his criticism of the farm system is unfair. As you point out we have the worst average draft position, we lose picks to FA signings and we consistently use our prospects as trade chips. Yet somehow we end up middle of the road in what we get out of our farm system. That’s not so bad and a lot better than where we were before Cashman put a renewed emphasis on the farm system.

    • dubinsky says:

      pretty good comment

    • JobaWockeeZ says:

      I was going to prepare a long(er) response but since this is mostly fallacious I won’t bother. Imma just summarize.

      1. The correlation between high draft picks and a good farm isn’t as strong as you believe. For starters you’ve completely and conveniently ignored international free agents. Notable Yankee examples would be Jesus and Gary Sanchez. Thus draft positioning isn’t the only factor in farm position or player development yet it’s the only one you mention.

      2. The assertion or implication that only high draft picks are valuable is of course faulty. Now obviously it helps but it’s either ignored or also conveniently ignored of how other teams fare in late 1st round picks or after. The 2009 or 2010 Rays are a good example. Back then everyone on RAB said it’s only because they’ve sucked for a decade that they have talent. But as another common trend of ignoring the Rays have actually had most of their home grown successes come from the 2nd round or later. Boston does a good job too and they’ve been just as successful in the past decade.

      So when combining these, the assertion that the Yankees SHOULD have the worst farm is beyond ridiculous. When you can buy the best talent from IFA or draft good talent they can have a top farm. What’s lacking is an ability to develop them which is definitely one of the worst in the league.

  148. dmao says:

    Although this article was a product of frustration, there was a lot of truth in it. Let me first say that Mike’s jab at the farm system was a bit unfair, and I agree with the previous poster’s comments. That said, it is rather frustrating to watch some of our top prospects struggle so much this year in the minors (i.e. Mason), but most prospects never work out anyway. With all that said, I agree with the Mike’s overall post, and I want to defend him against some of the criticisms.

    A lot of your are saying that this is needless whining because we are 8 games over 500 and only 3 games back. Yes, that’s true, BUT we have a wRC+ of 86. That’s tied with the Astros, and the worst in the AL East by a wide margin (with the exception of the Jays). This stat also definitely passes the eye test; the Yankee offense has been just awful recently. If the Orioles were 8 games over 500 and only 3 back, but had a wRC+ of only 86, we would all be saying that they are over performing, so let’s be honest with ourselves and say that what the Yanks have done is a minor miracle. It’s not going to last forever, and as we have seen, we are heading towards regression. I think that is a legitimate concern rather than whining.

    Secondly, it’s not whining to be upset with the management of the Yankees. It’s a fair criticism. It’s really very frustrating to watch them talk about austerity over the offseason and then PAY VERNON WELLS a 13 million dollar contract. Nevermind how I feel about the money they gave Ichiro for this year and the next. It’s also frustrating to hear the management talk about competing when they obviously aren’t (don’t piss on my leg and tell me it’s raining). I don’t think Mike is just a “spoiled fan.” I think he’s upset because he feels like management is being dishonest with fans (and probably themselves). There’s nothing wrong with losing when a team is going through a rebuilding phase (and they are honest about it), but it’s just obnoxious to hear management talk about COMPETING EVERY YEAR when Wells plays every day. And it’s REALLY OBNOXIOUS that they charge the prices they do at the Stadium to watch this lousy team. This is a 230 million dollar team, and its offense is as bad as the Astros. That is upsetting. Of course, much of that is to blame on injuries, but it’s also a product of mismanagement: bloated contracts for under performing players, the refusal to go over 189 million next year (an abrupt proposal that was not implemented very well), and gambling on old has-beens.

    So while it’s true we are only 3 games out, I think it’s fair to be upset with where this franchise is heading. I think it comes down to this: they need to do one of two things. Either (1) decide to scrap the 189 million dollar plan and put out a competing product every year (the traditional way), OR (2) keep the austerity plan (which I think is a good idea overall; it just hasn’t been done in a thoughtful way) and be honest (with fans and THEMSELVES) about the fact that we need to rebuild (and then lower ticket prices at the stadium). But what is not going to work is the to continue to head down this current road.

  149. Paco Dooley says:

    Just wanted to say – an excellent rant

  150. dubinsky says:

    I wonder how long it’s going to take the author to regret this freak-out.

  151. Get Phelps Up says:

    We’ve almost reached the number of comments in the ARod steroids thread from January…

  152. JobaWockeeZ says:

    This thread is a joke not because of the original content but how insulted people get when you don’t suck the Yankees dick.

    It’s Mike’s blog and you can disagree but telling him what his opinion should be is absolutely hilarious. Oh no he said the Yankees suck. Boo hoo.

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