Alfonso Soriano on his way to New York

Fowler debuts with three-hit game in GCL loss
Yankees, Cubs agree to Alfonso Soriano trade

Via Paul Sullivan: Alfonso Soriano is taking a red-eye flight to New York tonight. There has not yet been an official announcement of a trade nor has there even been a report that the two sides agreed to a deal, but that’s a pretty great indication the trade will get done and Soriano will be with the club tomorrow. Based on various reports, the Cubs will pay more than half of the $25M left on his contract and the Yankees will send a low-level pitching prospect to Chicago. We’ll find out the particulars soon enough.

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Fowler debuts with three-hit game in GCL loss
Yankees, Cubs agree to Alfonso Soriano trade
  • Mikhel

    Good!! Far better than the actual internal options the NYY have.

    • trr

      This is it, then.
      Hoping for the best

  • Revan

    I’m prepared on losing Campos or DePaula.

    • Dumbledork

      Maybe… MAYBE Nik Turley if it is anyone even slightly significant

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        Wouldn’t have pitched tonight if it was him.

    • https://twitter.com/AngeloInNY Angelo

      DePaula would mean one of our top 5 prospects. Extremely doubtful. I honestly don’t think the prospect is going to matter much in this trade, but I guess it’s better not to assume anything.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      DePaula wouldn’t have pitched tonight if it was him.

      • Travis L.

        Rumor is that the prospect could be Corey Black.

    • Tisha

      Please, no

  • Gonzo

    There was a rumor that the Cubs were leaning towards Corey Black. Thoughts if it’s him?

    • pat

      No way. Maybe if the Cubs were paying his whole contract. Black has awesome stuff, he’s just a bit wild and is still young. I bet it’s like a Chase Weems type of player. Maybe Higgy?

      • Gonzo

        The names bandied about were him, De La Cruz, Whitley, and a CYA-mystery player with the Cubs leaning Corey Black.

      • https://twitter.com/AngeloInNY Angelo

        It wouldn’t surprise me too much if it was Black. He’s projected to be more of a bullpen guy in the future (last time I checked), which doesn’t technically mean he can’t make it as a starter.

        Anyway, we’ll find out soon enough.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Would sting, but it’s fair. Hard-thrower, needs to figure out the secondary stuff and stay healthy. Lottery ticket type.

      • Cool Lester Smooth

        Yeah, and it fits the Cubs’ MO, too.

      • nycsportzfan

        i’m with you mike. It’d sting a bit, but its fair. Especially being were adding a player who knows NY and has good power and is exactly what we need, while fighting for a postseason spot.

  • Kvothe

    Twitter rumors say the prospect is Chase Black. You’re not a fan of that deal if Black is the prospect traded?

    • Kvothe

      Sigh. Corey. Not Chase. Thinking of Whitley and Black at the same time.

      • pat

        And thusly the Black & White cookie was discovered.

        • Kvothe

          Ha.

          • Rigoleto

            Look to the cookie!

    • https://twitter.com/AngeloInNY Angelo

      I think it’s okay. No big deal. I liked Black, but I didn’t love him. As long as the Cubs are eating a good chunk of the money on Soriano’s contract.

  • BigBlueAL

    Sori this weekend, Jeter and Grandy at the latest next week and all of a sudden this team might have enough offense to steal one of the WC spots. Not to mention if they pick up another bat before the trade deadline or by some miracle Arod actually joins the team.

    • OldYanksFan

      What about ARod?
      Is he on the DL and guaranteed to be out 14 days?
      Or is it just as long as the Yankees think is appropriate?

  • mustang(The Has Beens & Wannabes Bunch 2013)

    I hope he has AFLAC.

  • Nathan

    I’m hoping I get some good news when I check my phone in the morning (I’m on the West Coast).

  • CashmanNinja

    I’d rather lose Whitley than Black. I think Black has better overall stuff, plus he’s what…like 3 years younger I think? I just feel that Black has a little bit more potential than Whitley. Either way…I’d still give up either of them for Sori if it means the Cubs pay more than 50% of the contract.

    • https://twitter.com/AngeloInNY Angelo

      Agreed.

      …but I love my prospects. Black was interesting, but if he’s the guy that gets traded, I won’t lose sleep over it.

      • CashmanNinja

        I love prospects as well, but only a handful will ever make this team (or any other they’re traded to). I’m much more wary about dealing big named prospects and Whitley and Black definitely aren’t big name prospects. That doesn’t mean they’re useless or won’t ever become solid contributors, but the chance of them ever producing much is slim. They have to make it to the majors first before they can do anything and…yeah, with the Yankees’ luck the best they’ll ever be is a so-so reliever. Soriano has the chance to make an impact. He’s better than our current options (i.e. Hafner and Neal) so may as well give him a chance. His OBP is low, but it’s not like Hafner has been doing…anything lately.

        • https://twitter.com/AngeloInNY Angelo

          Yeah. Completely agree.

          Not sure if you were trying to make a point to me, or just making one in general, but that’s pretty much where I stand.

          • CashmanNinja

            I was just talking in general :P A lot of people here seem to either love prospects (and never want to deal them) or are willing to deal anyone away for anyone. I like to find balance. Sending a guy we most likely would never use (thus would rot away in our system) for a guy who could help us now…that’s a smart move and needs to be done.

            • IRememberCelerinoSanchez

              I agree with everything in this thread. But I think Whitley is ready to pitch in an MLB pen right now. So I would hate to lose him, even though Black has more upside. But the Yanks are so desperate for offense, you’d have to pull the trigger on the deal for either of them.

  • Duh Injuries

    Six more days until the Yankees end the dramarama with Alex Rodriguez when they put him on the 60-day disabled list thus effectively shut him down for the season since the season ends on September 29 and ensure they will collect x amount of money on his $28M salary for 2013.

    ‘Glad to see Soriano the near 2001 World Series MVP (from his tie-breaking solo homerun late in Game 7) back. The Yanks finally listened to me hahaha as I was a big proponent of him coming back while most of you including those who now like the move were screaming “NO!” Soriano is automatically the Yanks’ biggest homerun threat despite having four less homeruns than Cano this season. Soriano has 389 career homeruns and let’s all root for him to hit his 400th homerun as a Yankee this season cuz if he does that that’s at least 11 homeruns from him from today on which would be pretty good for a late July pickup.

    Fun(ny) and cool factoids about Soriano (funny in relation to A-Rod):

    He has double the World Series rings and appearances and quadruple the number of memberships on a World Series team as A-Rod like this:

    1999-2000 Yankees (two World Series rings)

    2001 & 2003 Yankees (two World Series appearances)

    1998-99, 2001 & 2003 Yankees (four World Series teams)

    He’s 11 hits shy of 2000 hits, 11 homeruns shy of 400 homeruns, and 20 stolen bases shy of 300 stolen bases.

    If Sori reaches 400 homeruns and 300 stolen bases he would be only the fifth MLB player to reach both milestones. The other four players? Hall Of Famers Willie Mays and Andre Dawson, and never making the Hall Of Fame or not making it for a very long time Barry Bonds and Alex Rodriguez.

    Welcome back Sori!

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      He’s been on the 60-day DL since Opening Day. Please stop posting this nonsense in every thread.

      • jsbrendog

        drop the banhammer!

      • OldYanksFan

        Hey Mike…. can you clarify something.
        In terms or collecting insurance on ARod….
        Is it simply based on the number of days ARod is on the DL…?
        Or is there some magic threshold (100 days, etc).

        I am trying to think of what motivation (aside from spite) the Yanks might have for keeping ARod off the field.

        I think EVERYBODY knows ARod is by far our best option at 3B.

        Can you think of a reason the Yanks would hold him back?

    • forensic

      I’d say it’s pretty unlikely that Soriano gets the steals he needs for 300. Yes, he has 10 so far this year, but he had only 22 in the previous four seasons combined. And if he continues trying to steal at his current 66.7% success rate, I’d hope the Yankees try to stop him from giving away outs like that.

      He gives away plenty of outs with his bat already, don’t need to add to it with his legs.

  • Duh Injuries

    *1999, 2000, 2001 & 2003 Yankees (four World Series teams)

  • Bob Buttons

    Evan Rutcantspellhisname or Gabe Encinas seems possible.

    • Kosmo

      Scottie Allen ?

    • https://twitter.com/AngeloInNY Angelo

      Rutckyj ;)

    • Tom K

      Not likely. Rutckyj pitched Thursday night.

  • Fin

    Holly fuck, people are prepared to loose Depaula for fucking an end of his carreeer, one trick pony?

    • Cool Lester Smooth

      Who said that they were prepared to lose De Paula? One person said he was worried about it, but no one said they would be okay with it.

    • https://twitter.com/AngeloInNY Angelo

      It’s not going to be DePaula.

      Breathe. And make sure you know what you’re reading before you say anything.

      • Fin

        You’re right, but damn the amount of excitement for a really suspect player is crazy. He will be such a small upgrade to the overall team for a lot of money. Its crazy the Yankees let Martin and Swisher walk, and are going to pay almost as much for Wells, Soriano, and Ichiro. Look at those players, its embarrassing. If this was the Redsox we would be laughing our asses off at this shit.

        • IRememberCelerinoSanchez

          What the Yanks are paying those three combined is less than what the Indians paid Swisher (let alone Martin). I think the Yanks should helave re-signed Swisher instead of Ichiro, but let’s keep the numbers straight.

          If the Cubs are eating most of Soriano’s contract, this is a useful if not season-saving deal. He has a higher slugging percentage than every Yankee but Cano. Soriano is more than a “small upgrade.” I would call him a useful piece.

        • Cool Lester Smooth

          His wRC+ is 26 points higher than Vernon Wells’. That’s a massive, massive upgrade.

          But yeah, I’m still pissed about losing Martin.

          • Fin

            Continue your love fest. How many games has Wells played LF in the last month? More since Almonte got hurt, but hes by no means the Yankees full time left fielder. Really, when all are healthy, the question is…how much better is he than Almonte or Ichiro? The outfield is really Gardner, Ichiro and Almonte.

            • Cool Lester Smooth

              His wRC+ is also 26 points higher than Almonte’s, and 14 points higher than Ichiro’s.

              So, the answer is that he’s a lot better than both Almonte and Ichiro.

  • Kosmo

    watching Soriano in the 2003 playoffs flay away at ever slider low and away contributed to NY losing to a vastly inferior team.

    receiving WS rings for 99-00 seasons is about as undeserved as it gets if in fact he did receive them.

    • forensic

      Typically every player who appears for a team gets a ring. So, in about three months after the Yankees win it this year (yeah, I went there) there will be about 700 more utility IFer’s with WS rings.

      • Mikhel

        HAHAHAHAHA even Ben Francisco!!

        • Former ACE MannyGeee

          Alberto Gonzalez finally gets his ring.

          • Poconos Adam

            I did not laugh.

    • https://twitter.com/AngeloInNY Angelo

      Lrn2spell

      I had to sit here for a couple of minutes deciphering that first sentence.

      • Cool Lester Smooth

        What? Did you not watch him tear the horsehide off every ball that was thrown as a slider low and away?

  • Fin

    Really, what the fuck is Soriano going to do for this team, but add 1 hr a month? I don’t mind them getting him but people seem to think hes going to make some sort of difference. He might be the second or third best hitter on the team, but it means nothing when so many other guys still suck, they aren’t picking up an all star, or a great player, or even a good player..they are picking up a guy who sucks less than the rest of the Yankees lineup.

    • Mikhel

      NYY left fielders are batting 0.223 AVG / 0.266 OBP, since May 15th when Vernon Wells belted one NY’s left fielders have exactly one homerun: Zoilo Almonte’s HR June 21; oh yeah and overall 12 extrabases (11 doubles, 1 HR) since May 15th by left fielders.

      DH’s on the other hand, are even worse: 0.212 AVG, 10 extrabases since may 15th (6 HR, 4 doubles).

      • Fin

        I would argue that you cant boil it down to LF. ALmonte, Ichiro, Wells and Gardner have all played LF this year, it just might be a statistical anomaly that those guys have had bad nights in LF. Granted wherever Wells plays is going to suck statistically and Soriano is at least an upgrade compared to wells.

        • Mikhel

          It basically is due to Wells, I used may 15th because that’s the last day he finished with a 0.300+ AVG.

          Overall in LF:
          http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/2748/s9ay.png

          DH:
          http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/5933/1l5v.png

          That’s why in my mind, this upgrade at the supposed cost is worth it, now if they can only get a real LF instead of a shortstop converted to 2nd baseman converted to left fielder would be even better; I wanted Hunter Pence but he isn’t a LF and his cost would be relatively high (he is arbitration elegible at end of this season), his production is similar to the production of Curtis Granderson from 2010-2012 and not counting this season (since 2010 or 2011 I was crossing my fingers for the Yanks to acquire him but won’t happen soon).

    • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

      Tell us how you really feel, Fin. Don’t hold back.

      • Fin

        I don’t mean to come off angry. I’m actually fine that a dynasty team is coming to an end. My issue is..when the team is aging and suffering this many injuries; why compound the issue with all these awful, expiring contracts/playes. There is no reason in the world to bring on Soriano and Wells. You have to know when to fold em. It screams of no plan and no care, fill seats. At this rate they are going to spend 250m this year on the worst team in most of your lifetimes.

        • IRememberCelerinoSanchez

          I agree on Wells, disagree on Soriano.

          The hitting stinks, but the pitching is great. That is why they are still in the race despite the epically bad hitting. Soriano has some power and will help v. lefties. If they can add another oiece or two to the lineup, they might make the post-season.

          If they were 10 out, I would agree with you. But when you are in the race, you have to try.

          Plus, you keep writing like the Yanks are paying the full freight on Wells and Soriano. They are paying Wells $1 million next year. He may be a terrible hitter, but his pressence will not stop them from doing anything in 2014.

        • Darren

          The dynasty team ended 12 years ago. Stop focusing on the Yankees powerhouses. Start realizing that if your team has a chance, you gotta go for it. There’s now downside to this trade.

          It’s easier to destroy than to create. Don’t fall in love with a rebuild.

    • mikelf

      He will definitely contribute to the one category where the Yankees lead the league: number of starters eligible to collect Social Security.

    • Former ACE MannyGeee

      Soriano has 9 HRs in the past 28 days. The 2013 Yankees (all of them, including Cano) have 8. Soriano’s SLG over that time frame is .688, the Yankkes are .345.

      So, Soriano is adding some very desperately needed power to this lineup. He will make a difference, sorry to break it to you.

      • Cool Lester Smooth

        Haha, that’s both an awesome and extremely depressing stat.

      • Fin

        Nice snap shot. So we can expect Soriano to slug .688 going forward and the rest of the Yankees to slug .345? If he slugs .688 for the rest of the year, hell ya he will make a difference. My money is on .450ish.

        • Cool Lester Smooth

          A .450 SLG will be his lowest since 2009.

          I don’t understand why you’re so upset about trading a likely reliever in Hi-A for someone with legitimate 30 HR power who has hit lefties just as well as Cano this season despite slumping early.

  • GR

    That’s Kool, now Cano has a loafer twin that he can doggit with.

    • Fin

      He can “loaf it” all he wants if he keeps being one of the most durable players in baseball history. If the dude was white, no one care or call him slow. Poor fucking dark skinned dude, who never misses an inning or a game is a loafer…FUK U!

      • Fin

        I didn’t hold that one back Improbable. Cano is a damn warrior and people bitch about running out routine ground balls. Leave that to Jeeter.

        • Fin

          Fuck, I’m angry about Cano complaints…Have any of you even tried to play 8 games in 3 days in softball tourney

          It hurts when you’re 20. I cant imagine playing 162 games when you’re 20. Let alone when you’re 30. ITs amazing what these guys do, and there are people sitting here judging Cano on how hard he runs routine ground balls. You fucks couldn’t play 9 innings of MLB, let alone 1600+ innings in a year.

          • jjyank

            Thank you. Would it make people happy if Cano busted it down the line and picked up 1-2 infield singles a year? What if that ended up costing him entire games as the season went along due to injury or a need for rest? Cano is a damn iron man. A loafer doesn’t play as many games as Cano does. You have to go all the way back to 2006 (!) to find a season where Cano has played in less than 159 games. If he was lazy, that sure as hell wouldn’t be the case.

            • Fin

              I sit here day after day, listening to people degrade Cano for not “hustleig down the line”. None of these idiots can image the fortitude the man has to play every inning of every game. They are all just jerk offs.

              • Former ACE MannyGeee

                butbutbutbut…. he’s not scrappy like teh Padroiaz! Never gets dirty!!! #Lazy

          • trr

            I have Fin. I’m 57 and I still play. Gettin’ slower but I’m still out there with guys have my age. I take a lot of shit (mostly good natured…mostly) but I’m OK with it.

            Anyway, you’re dead wrong to bring race into it. Maybe it’s because I bust my ass most every day between work, home, and play, but I can’t stand to see a loafer. And I don’t if the loaf in question is white, brown, black or green

            • Fin

              the point is you cant loaf, with what Cano accomplishes on the ML level. I don’t give a shit if he walks to first base.

              • trr

                I understand your point Fin; And Cano is our best player…but, sooner or later a lack of hustle will infest a player’s overall approach; It’s a terrible example for younger players; and is it really asking too much for a purported 20M player to run hard 4 times a game?

                • Fin

                  trr, I dig u man..however, you have got to be kidding me. The man plays ~160 games a year, major league baseball. Rarely even gets an inning off, and his knock is that he doesn’t run hard to first base on an obvious out?

                  Just don’t buy it…the dude is as hard as they come. He plays every inning, he plays every day. Hes a monster.

                • Fin

                  His “lack of hustle” is invading his approach to the tune of Hall of fame, and a couple hundred million dollars after 10ys of MLB. The only complaint any one can possibly have of Cano’s game is not running hard to 1st. Seeing as how he dosnt beat out ground balls, and never gets hurt, I think every team in the history of baseball takes Cano over almost every other 2nd baseman who has ever played the god damn game.

  • awy

    where was the money a couple years ago when big IFAs were still available and the IFA window was still open

  • Dan in Athens

    “In 1949, Mize was 36 and unhappy playing for Giants manager Leo Durocher. In August, the Big Cat was sent to the Yankees for $40,000. The move was criticized in the press, but ultimately helped make Casey Stengel a genius as the aging slugger became an important cog in baseball’s greatest dynasty, helping the Yankees win a record five straight World Series championships.”

    “Your arm is gone, your legs likewise, but not your eyes, Mize, not your eyes,” wrote New York sportswriter Dan Parker, inspired by the aging slugger’s ability to drag his bulk and his bat to the plate and deposit baseballs anywhere on the field, and often beyond it.”

  • Wayne

    If they traded depaula for Soriano that is the worst trade in yankees history!!!!!! How stupid is cashman?!!!!!!!!!

    • John C

      How stupid are you for believing that DePaula would be the one they gave up?

    • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

      See, all you talk about is baby shit, because you’re baby crazy!

    • jjyank

      I don’t know if they grade sand, but if they do….coarse.

    • jsbrendog

      dude right!?!! i cant fucking believe they traded slade for wells too!!!11!1!!1!!1!!!!juan!!11!11one!1!!1!

  • Grover

    Just heard on Mike and Mike that since June 28th Soriano has ten home runs versus eight for the Yankees. I think it was from Olney.

  • Robert

    Another old timer,yesterdays game to me was exciting watching the young players hit.
    Sori is signed for 2014 right? So Sori,Ichero and Wells are 3 parts of the 2014 outfield ?

    • Darren

      Yesterday’s game was exciting? The young players combined for 2 runs.

      i love young players too, but Soriano isn’t blocking anyone so there’s really no downside to this.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    OMGZ IZ GUNNA B DEPAULA DOOOOOOOM DOOOOOOOM

    Fine with Whitley. Fine with Black. Every young pitcher has a projectable ceiling. You can’t keep all of them just in case one of them makes it. Such would be life. Like Mike said, Black would be a lottery ticket.

    I’m thankful my mother-in-law never threw away her Sori shirt. Welcome back to an old favorite. Give us some spark. Lord knows we need it.

    • https://twitter.com/AngeloInNY Angelo

      I don’t understand how anyone could think it’s Depaula based off of them reading ONE comment worrying that it might be Depaula. Arguably the Yankees best pitching prospect(ManBan will be back!)

      Obviously it’s not him…

      Bye-bye to Black, Whitley, or whoever else the Cubs are considering.

  • fat jeter

    So we are gonna get Soriano, cool. Definitely needed some righthanded pop and he fits the bill. I always liked him even if he sometimes goes into the batter’s box with a garden hose. What happens when Granderson comes back though? What’s the outfield look like at that point? Obviously Wells is expendable and if we eat remaining salary he could be attractive to someone at 1M next year, right? I don’t think you can sell the “market Ichiro’s chase to 2,000″ to a rival club — only Levine is dumb enough to fall for that shit. Gardener could have value on the market, but he’s been to vital to the modicum amount of success we’ve had thus far. I can’t see a platoon in left with Grandy and Sori — I don’t think either player accepts that role. It’s crazy to say but this team has finally generated some interest that is not related to alex, PEDs, or Biogenesis.

    • mitch

      If Grandy is healthy, there’s no way is he part of a platoon. He’ll be their second best hitter. Once he’s back i think Wells is the odd man out. They’ll use a 4 man outfield rotation with Soriano probably getting a good amount of DH time as well.

    • Cool Lester Smooth

      I’m pretty sure the plan is “Fuck Wells and Ichiro, we’ve got an outfield again.”

      • Fin

        Explain the plan to me? Ichiro is better than Wells, and might be better than Soriano (taking into account the complete game). Granderson is probably going to be worse than all of them for at least 3 weeks while he gets his shit back togather.

        • Cool Lester Smooth

          Call me crazy, but I don’t think the Yankees will prioritize corner outfield defense and baserunning at the expense of the MLB-caliber offensive production they will receive from Soriano and a worst-case scenario Granderson.

  • John

    Looks like it’s going to be Corey Black. Tough, I thought he would be a solid reliever for us, but Betances looks pretty good as an immediate fill-in. We need some DINGERS!

    • Rick

      No sleep lost over Corey Black.

  • dasani

    Beggers can’t be choosie

  • Fin

    I apologize to all, I have just had it with Cano bashing. Cant take it anymore. He’s on a hall of fame path, that includes, possibly the best 2nd basemen in the history of baseball. He’s a spectacular talent that doesn’t miss a day, an inning or a game.

    • Darren

      It’s not racism, at least not all the time. I’ve heard plenty of Hispanic fans complain about him jogging to first.

      I think it’s a little too easy for you to say that Robbie doesn’t run hard in order to conserve energy. How do you know? He’s never explained. He also doesn’t run hard when he his balls a long way. It’s not just obvious infield outs, it’s long hits that could be doubles but end up singles and doubles that could be triples. And yeah, I would take 5 less games from Robbie if it meant he ran hard every game.

      Plain and simple fact is that it’s extremely unpleasant to watch an uninjured player jog down to first, for whatever reason. I think the reason it’s so disturbing is because it’s the ONE part of his game that your average fan could do better than Robbie. So it’s weird that he doesn’t correct it.

      Jeter runs hard and was pretty durable. Bernie too.

      • Fin

        First, I disagree that he doesn’t run for doubles and “triples”. Cano doesn’t get triples because hes not fast enough. Ive seen him bust a lot off the plate and get thrown out at second. Hes not a good base runner. Why would he explain anything? He plays every day, every inning! Sine 2007 when he became the every day 2b for the NYY hes played in every fucking game but 12! That doesn’t include this year where he has yet to miss a game. I cant comprehend how anyone can think anything other than the guy is as big of gamer, who has ever played.

        • Fin

          That’s right…in 6 yrs the fucking guy hasn’t played in 12 games. Put that through your head. Hes averaged 2 games off over 6 firkin years.

          • Fin

            To me, that means he doesn’t have a lazy bone in his body. Hes as hard core of a baseball player as you could ask for. I cant look up the stats, but I would bet no one in baseball has played more innings than Cano since 2007.

  • I’m One

    MLBTradeRumores reporting (per Jim Bowden):

    “The Cubs will choose from a short list of pitching prospects that includes Corey Black, Tommy Kahnle and perhaps one other player”

  • Mike HC

    Sounds good to me. He is also a pretty exciting player to watch on a team that desperately needs some more entertainment value on offense.

  • Chris Z.

    So no one else finds it ironic that the player we are trading for is very player we traded away to get the guy who Soriano is basically replacing in the lineup? I love it. This is the stuff of Hollywood.

  • Bavarian Yankee

    Corey Black? meh. tbh it’s a fair trade. I just don’t see the need to trade for another 40 year old (I know he’s not 40 but you know what I mean). You still don’t wanna sell? Fine but don’t trade for players that are barely better than Vernon Wells and are under contract for another year.

    Sometimes this looks like “how can we F up this team the most for the future” to me. What’s next? Trading for Adam Dunn and Michael Young? Just sell already.

    • mitch

      Soriano is much better than Vernon Wells. One is completely washed up a as an MLBer. The other is still a solid regular.

      • Bavarian Yankee

        I don’t know if you can call a guy with an OPB of .287 and a K/BB of 89/15 a solid regular.

        • Bavarian Yankee

          *OBP

          • mitch

            you can if he makes up for it with a lot of power and decent defense/baserunning

            • Bavarian Yankee

              too bad they had that guy already, he’s called Melky Mesa.

              • mitch

                good point they’re almost exactly alike. The only difference is that one has had a pretty nice 15 year mlb career and the other hasn’t conquered AAA

                • Bavarian Yankee

                  despite that the difference between those two (or Soriano and Wells) in the 2nd half will be what? a half win? one at best?

                  • mitch

                    probably a win at best

                    • Bavarian Yankee

                      lol, we’ll appreaciate that extra win when we’re out of the race in mid September ;)

                    • Bavarian Yankee

                      * all those typos today. I’m tired and it’s just way to hot.

                  • Cool Lester Smooth

                    You do understand that Mesa has been significantly worse in every rate stat in AAA than Soriano has been in the majors, right?

                    Soriano just became our second best outfielder, and it’s not very close, either.

                    • Bavarian Yankee

                      may be true, won’t change much in the big picture anyway. Soriano is a small upgrade but that won’t rescue the Yanks this season and/or next season.

                    • Fin

                      You do understand that putting an average hitter in the middle of the Yankees lineup only looks good because of the lack of talent they have. It is the smallest of upgrades, with the most money possible.

                    • Cool Lester Smooth

                      Soriano is not a small upgrade, though. 26 points of wRC+ is huge. It’s roughly the equivalent of replacing Lyle Overbay with Kendrys Morales, or replacing Pronk with Mark Trumbo.

  • MB923

    Done deal. No word on the prospect though.

    Soriano is owed $24.5 million. Yankees will pay him $6.8 million of that.

    • Poconos Adam

      ….over two years. He’ll offer some pop next year too. It’s a good deal. I like Black too, but you don’t get a guy with pop for an organizational arm.

      I have not heard anything about Sori’s attitude in years (since he left the Yanks) — has he matured? I hope so.

      I was an idiot in my 20s too, so never blamed him. I just hope he can take sitting on the bench next year if some kids can move up (Slade? Probably won’t be ready, but you get the point).

      • Bavarian Yankee

        bench next year? No way. Be prepared for a full season of Soriano-Gardner-Ichiro in the outfield and Vernon Wells as your 4th outfielder :D

      • Cool Lester Smooth

        Why would Sori be on the bench? He’s still a major league caliber hitter. Ichiro, though, that dude’s gonna be riding pine.

        Also, apparently he’s now a great clubhouse guy who everyone likes, so that’s good.

        • Poconos Adam

          I’m not saying Sori should be on the bench next year….I said “IF” kids make it up. (Thinking second half).

          It was a pessimistic thought — thanks for wacking me on it.
          D deserved that.

          Glad to hear he’s a good clubhouse guy.

          and could not agree more on the Ichiro angle you noted.

  • Eddard

    I just love this trade. So many people are fretting about losing a reliever. Sometimes you have to give up a strength to help a weakness and this is that case. With the pitching they have if they can just get in the postseason anything can happen. Just in time for the Rays series.

  • Pseudoyanks

    I think we’re reading way too much into his red eye to NY. Maybe he just needed a good slice of pizza.

    • Darren

      Then why come to NYC? We haven’t had good pizza for about 10 years, sadly.

    • I’m One

      He could have stopped off in Chicago for one last slice of deep dish pizza. I like NY pizza better, but gotta admit that Chicago also has some good pizza. (And I’m also Italian, not that this makes me any more of a pizza aficionado that anyone else.)

      • Julius Pepperwood

        Thin crust pizza? No thank you. I’m from Chicago.

  • A.D.

    Red Eye, that’s dedication

    • I’m One

      Nah, now people will complain that he looked tired in his first game back with the Yankees. If he had a good night’s sleep, he would have been fine and hit like 20 gazillion homers and the Yankees would have won. All Cashman’s fault for finalizing the deal so late.

  • MB923

    Gotta figure it’s Neal or Mesa who get sent down.

    • nycsportzfan

      To bad they coulden’t pay Wells to go away.

    • Poconos Adam

      Mesa feels like a young Soriano…..toolsy without a clue. Pray he can suddenly find the “on button”!

      • Julius Pepperwood

        Mesa’s 26 already. Soriano almost went 40-40 (39HR-41SB) when he was that age.

        • Cool Lester Smooth

          Ugh, forgot to change my name back.

        • Poconos Adam

          Yeah — Nelson Cruz didn’t do jack until he was 29. Don’t fall victim to the cult of “guy must be 23-24″ to have a future.

          Mesa has the tools — stuff you can’t teach. If we can get the teachable stuff in there…..he’s got 4th OFer, maybe with 1-2 strong regular seasons in him. Probably not on the Yanks mind you — he’ll do that for someone else once the Yanks trade/dump him.

          • Cool Lester Smooth

            I could see him being Cruz, I was just saying that Soriano isn’t a good comp, since he was already a stud regular by the time he was Mesa’s age.

  • James

    What # will he wear?

    • James

      21? 22?

  • Oy

    Eh. From the 2014 free agent options, there are not many other OF options similar to Soriano’s production that could be had for a 1 year 5 mill deal.

    Though with 189, does this remove the chance of a Granderson qualifying offer?

    • MB923

      I wondered that myself yesterday. I think they offer it to him. If he accepts it, then maybe they trade him or another OFer before the season. If he declines, he signs elsewhere, they get a draft pick.

  • JLC 776

    The trade is official: http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

    Either Corey Black or Tommy Kahnle (or possibly someone else).

    In other words, Black…

  • Tyrone Sharpton

    Trade has been finalized!