Game 85: Do It For America

Derek Jeter loves America. Do the rest of the Yankees? (AP)

Derek Jeter loves America. Do the rest of the Yankees? (AP)

Winning three games out of any four-game series is an acceptable outcome, but the Yankees have a chance to get greedy this afternoon and finish off the sweep of the Twins. They’ve trailed in every game so far but have come back to win in the later innings each time, which is encouraging as long as you’re willing to ignore that the starting pitcher put them in a hole in each game (by multiple runs twice). Hopefully David Phelps can buck that trend and the Yankees cruise to an easy road trip-ending win. It’s Independence Day. Do it for America and the founding fathers.

Here’s the lineup that will face rookie right-hander Kyle Gibson:

  1. CF Ichiro Suzuki
  2. LF Zoilo Almonte
  3. 2B Robinson Cano
  4. DH Travis Hafner
  5. RF Vernon Wells
  6. 1B Lyle Overbay
  7. SS Luis Cruz
  8. 3B Alberto Gonzalez
  9. C Austin Romine

And on the mound is the right-hander Phelps, who needs to shake off his nine-run, 2.1-inning disaster against the Orioles last weekend.

It’s a great day for red coat ass-kicking in Minneapolis, with clear skies and a nice cool breeze. ‘Murica weather. First pitch is scheduled for a little after 2pm ET and can be seen on YES locally and MLB Network nationally. Enjoy.

Categories : Game Threads


  1. Pseudoyanks says:

    ‘Murica’s Team!

  2. forensic says:

    So I guess no one on this team (short of Cano) is allowed to actually one full week in a row…

    • The Real Greg says:

      I could say that Joe has noticed that Brett has cooled off and decided to rest him for a day.

    • The Real Greg says:

      Plus I should say that not counting off days, Brett has started all but 2 of the last 30 games (including this one)

      • forensic says:

        So, not counting his days off, he’s started a lot of games. Very helpful.

        But I guess there’s some sort of logic to it in Girardi’s head…

  3. Pseudoyanks says:

    My hotel room has 60 TV stations including NFL Network and also a bunch of stations I’ve never heard of, but no MLB network. Good thing it’s also raining outside … but at least I can see a parade from my window.

  4. jjyank says:

    Fun fact: George Washington was a Yankee fan.

    Anyways, I have the distinct honor of working from 3-11:30 today. So, go Yankees, and happy 4th to everyone. Hopefully I come home to some nice highlights.

  5. forensic says:

    I sat Phelps last week against the O’s and look what happened. My fantasy team is taking the plunge this week and starting him, so that should get him back on the right track.

  6. Mustang (The Has Been & Wannabes Bunch 2013) says:

    mustang (The Has Been & Wannabes Bunch 2013) says:
    July 4, 2013 at 7:46 am
    School papers, going to work and on 24 hr standby from work!!!!!
    This is an outrage! It’s the birthday of the greatest country in the world. So lets do what needs to get done or just plain ignore it and meet back here by 2:00 pm with drinks in hand to enjoy Americas favorite pass time.
    Don’t do it for yourself do it for your country.
    God Bless you all and God bless the United States of America.

    forensic is here check
    where the hell is Pat D?

    • forensic says:

      I’m here, but my phone is sitting right next to me, and I’m just hoping it doesn’t ring today.

      • Mustang (The Has Been & Wannabes Bunch 2013) says:

        I feel like your battery is dying and the dog ate the charger if you don’t have a dog you can use my.

        jjyank is here so is The Real Greg the chances for a good game thread just went up.

        I’m here, but my mother-law just came over so my survival rate just went down.

        • forensic says:

          I know how that goes. I woke up early this morning only to hear my mother-in-law talking to my wife on speaker phone. Talk about incentive to go back to sleep…

          • Mustang (The Has Been & Wannabes Bunch 2013) says:


            Already been told to get off the computer and talk to her. SMH I’m like thought I marry you and I got the death stare…LOL.

            Time to sneak to the man cave.

    • Pasta Stumbling Sojo says:

      I’m not a regular poster but I am a regular lurker, and I’m here.

    • Pat D says:

      I’s hiding.

  7. Cuso says:

    Just missed that

  8. forensic says:

    Gets the run home at least.

    That thing seemed to just keep carrying too.

  9. forensic says:

    Hafner doing his best impression of Ichiro/Gardner…

  10. nsalem says:

    Wish Tex could/would do that every so often.

  11. nsalem says:

    I’ll be happy with just one more run this inning

  12. Wheels says:


  13. nsalem says:

    Now I’m very happy. Here comes the meat of the line-up.

  14. forensic says:

    Can’t believe a pitcher would throw Wells anything other than a regular slider low/away.

    What a gift!

  15. The Real Greg says:

    So the cool Gardner goes out of the lineup and the Yankees get instant offense…..

    /kidding, partly

  16. Pasta Stumbling Sojo says:

    Man, way to spoil the great feeling of 3 runs by posting a graphic that says “3 runs ties the Yankees’ season high for runs in the 1st inning.”

  17. The Real Greg says:

    When did Phelps get a knuckle curve?

  18. Hall and Nokes says:

    I’m a Yankee uniform purist but I do like the gray hats with the road unis.

  19. forensic says:

    Chris Davis, Miguel Cabrera, and Jose Bautista?

    Well, if there’s any truth to the myth of the Homerun Derby messing with your swing (which there mostly isn’t), that could be an ok roster for the Yankees. Maybe just replace Cabrera with Ortiz.

  20. The Real Greg says:

    Need Larry Hagman up here.

  21. RetroRob says:

    Ichiro didn’t quite have his normal swinging/running swing there, which made it closer than expected.

  22. Mustang (The Has Been & Wannabes Bunch 2013) says:

    The Z train !!!!

  23. Mustang (The Has Been & Wannabes Bunch 2013) says:


    Pat D in the house

    America Is proud !!!!

    • Pat D says:

      I’m as proud of America as I am ashamed of America. Especially after watching The Lone Ranger yesterday.

      And I’m doing research for the history of the teaching of evolution in the United States. Which further enforces my first statement.

      • trr says:

        That’s an interesting topic

      • nsalem says:

        Saw The Tillman Story last night. Would probably give you the same Proud/Ashamed feeling.

      • nsalem says:

        I would imagine that the teaching of evolution in this country was vastly different in as per geographical location.

        • Pat D says:

          There is a certain geographic aspect to it. I have a feeling I’m going to spend a good amount of space talking about the Scopes Monkey trial, which was in Tennessee in the 20′s, and the more recent “Panda Book” trial from my state of PA from about 7-8 years ago.

      • Mustang (The Has Been & Wannabes Bunch 2013) says:

        I love this country. Yes, its not perfect, but what is. My parents came here with nothing I grow up in the jungle of the Bronx. Busted my ass now house in the suburbs watching my family swimming in the pool.

        I can’t complain at all.

  24. The Real Greg says:

    The bottom part of the lineup saved Gibson. Allowed him to have two outs when facing the top which really quelled that rally.

  25. forensic says:

    It’s amazing how much enthusiasm these guys have to fake when they talk about anything involving Jeter.

    Singleton: “He hasn’t just been running, HE’S BEEN RUNNING THE BASES!!!”

  26. nsalem says:

    Game is moving rather slow.

    • forensic says:

      Yeah, Yanks have had a lot of baserunners, which contributes to it in a good way though, so I’ll take it. :-)

  27. forensic says:

    There you go, slider/curve low means easy swing and miss.

  28. The Real Greg says:


  29. Wheels says:

    It’s great playing the Twins.

  30. forensic says:

    Anyone else get the same feeling as me that when you turn away from the TV, Flaherty just drones and sounds like the teacher from The Peanuts?

    • The Real Greg says:

      Probably don’t even need to turn away from the TV

      • forensic says:

        Yeah, perfect example, I just turned away during the Cruz AB. Look back at the TV, suddenly he’s on first and another run scored without me even realizing it due to Flaherty being on the call.

    • WhittakerWalt says:

      He always sounds like an even more boring (though less racist) Adam Carolla.

  31. Wheels says:


  32. Eddard says:

    The Twins are always a soft spot in the schedule for the Yanks. Some things never change. Good thing they play them 3 more times next week.

  33. WhittakerWalt says:

    Bad Attorney General!

  34. Mustang (The Has Been & Wannabes Bunch 2013) says:

    The one day I need the Yankees to drag out the game so I Don’t have to talk to my mother-in-law they drop a 5 spot.


  35. WhittakerWalt says:

    Yes, Flash. I’d say that Baltimore “beat [Phelps] up a little bit.”

    • forensic says:

      Every thing is “a little bit” to him. He kept saying Walters struggled ‘a little bit’ recently. 12 runs in about 3 innings? A little bit is quite an understatement. Adams on an 0-90 stretch (give or take), he’s hit a little bit of a rough stretch.

  36. Wheels says:

    that was slick

  37. Mustang (The Has Been & Wannabes Bunch 2013) says:

    That was fucking nice,

  38. forensic says:

    Dozier said yesterday that he hates watching Cano play because he’s too flashy.

    He probably likes it even less now after that barehanded DP.

  39. WhittakerWalt says:

    Damn, Cano. That was pretty.

  40. jimmy says:

    Butch Wynegar or Rick Cerrone.

  41. The Real Greg says:

    Still slightly scared that this game is not in the books.

    • nsalem says:

      I think we will win this game, but with the Oriole’s coming up I hope we don’t need Mo or Robertson to win it.

      • forensic says:

        I would think he’ll stay away from Mo today since he’s pitched 3 straight games.

        They’re set up well here, so hopefully the bottom of the order gets at least one, if not both, of these runs home.

  42. Wheels says:

    Nice pitch.

  43. nsalem says:

    Don’t advovate the squeeze nuch, but this may be a good time.

  44. forensic says:

    Nice Berto!

    • nsalem says:

      How many pitches did Mo throw on Tuesday, Someone said it was one. He might go to him if forced to. Boston was winning last time I checked and Girardi may not want to risk falling farther behind.

  45. Wheels says:

    The former AG gets another RBI.

  46. forensic says:

    Flaherty: “In the newspaper tomorrow it’s going to look like a base hit and an RBI.”

    You know why? Because it was a base hit and an RBI.

    It’s supposed to be “In the newspaper tomorrow it’ll look like a solid line drive and an RBI.” since it was hit so weakly and accidently the other way.

    Can Flaherty get anything right?

  47. forensic says:

    Ugh, Romine…

  48. forensic says:

    He looked safe on replay.

  49. WhittakerWalt says:

    Close call, but still blown.

  50. Wheels says:

    Triple! we got this game

  51. forensic says:

    I’m happy for the offense for the Yankees, but did Ichiro have to pick this week to kill the ball right when he’s on my fantasy opponents team?

  52. forensic says:

    At this point, the talk about Mo better be moot.

  53. forensic says:

    Cano’s cooled off a bit.

  54. smurfy says:

    How ’bout that Ichi? Missed the double/triple by a few feet, fended off high outside pitches, changed his approach from hitting to left since they were pitching against it, then smacks one right up the right center pipe. skip into home, and he asks, am I worth spit now, kemosabi?

  55. forensic says:

    Ronan Tynan (at least it looked like him in the small screen) just did America the Beautiful at Fenway. Hadn’t heard about him in years.

  56. forensic says:

    Terrific camera work there.

    Hafner looks like he may be consciously trying to go the other way a bit more, which is a VERY good sign (hopefully).

  57. Dela G says:

    what an ass kicking we’re giving them

  58. Wheels says:

    Wow, what a catch.

  59. forensic says:

    And as we were discussing earlier, Flaherty says Luis Cruz has ‘struggled a little bit this year.’

    So, .127/.175/.169 is now only a little bit of struggling.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      Sterling talked up his performance with the Dodgers last year. If he’s half a season removed from something reasonable, he’s worth a look. I bet Adams goes down for Nunez and him and Gonzo alternate filling in where Nunez doesn’t play, then someone goes when Nix returns…..then they both go if/when Jeter returns unless one of them surpasses Nix.

      I still think he’s Ramiro Pena pulling a fast one on us.

      • nsalem says:

        I don’t think Nunez is paying anywhere except shortstop.

      • forensic says:

        Nunez would only play SS. I could see any of the other 3 being the odd man out.

        As for his last season, it’s absurdly out of line with anything else in his MLB and MiLB career (other than the last year or so in his 800th (give or take) season at AAA). I don’t buy that it means much of anything.

  60. mustang (The Has Been & Wannabes Bunch 2013) says:

    Trying to explain to my mother-in-law that a no-hitter doesn’t mean that ball never hits a bat.


  61. nsalem says:

    Joba pitching where he belongs.

  62. forensic says:

    Come on Joba, don’t make Phelps’ line look much worse than it should.

  63. The Real Greg says:

    Of course they’re going to make this difficult

  64. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Trivia Question:

    Which Yankee starter this year has the highest % of starts with a minimum 6 IP and maximum 2 runs allowed (5 start minimum, Nuno doesn’t count)?

  65. WhittakerWalt says:

    Dear Joba,
    Your slider SUCKS.

    Every hitter in baseball.

  66. FIPster Doofus says:

    Thanks for leaving Phelps in for way too long and ruining my fantasy team’s pitching stats, Joe. God damn.

    • forensic says:

      Same here. Of course a reliever other than Joba could’ve helped too.

      • FIPster Doofus says:

        Yeah, for sure. Really, though, when you have a back-end starter right around 100 pitches and he starts an inning poorly, yank him. One of the reasons he’s a back-end starter is because when things go bad, they go bad in a hurry. Lousy job by Girardi. Lousy by Joba, as well, but that’s to be expected. He’s awful.

      • WhittakerWalt says:

        “Of course a reliever other than Joba could’ve helped too.”

        This is almost always true.

    • The Real Greg says:

      I do agree with you. Girardi left him out there too long. Hurt his ERA

  67. The Real Greg says:

    Adam Dunn walks off against the O’s so we should gain ground with them

  68. Get Phelps Up says:

    Orioles lose on a walkoff and the Rays just blew a 3 run lead to the Astros!

  69. WhittakerWalt says:

    Yo Austin, you should never be swinging that hard.

  70. forensic says:

    So, yesterday I sit Carlos Quentin and he gets 3 hits including a double. Today I sit Adam Dunn and he gets 3 hits including a homer.

    Might be time to go back to doing the opposite of what I think is right.

  71. Anderson Silva says:

    that’s the Boone Logan I know

  72. The Real Greg says:

    Never easy.

  73. forensic says:

    Logan failing to get a lefty out? I’m shocked. Mauer also ripped the ball.

    Of course both of them came into the game with really good numbers against Logan, which anyone except Girardi could see because lefty vs. lefty is all he sees.

    • The Real Greg says:

      SO who do you suggest?

      You want to stay away from the high leverage guys, remember which are Kelley, Robertson and Mo.

      • forensic says:

        You don’t need to stay away from Kelley. He’s had two days off.

        By sticking with Logan against these bad matchups, he’s only putting it into a worse situation.

        • forensic says:

          Or, don’t leave Phelps in so long. Or, don’t bring in Joba for one batter with 2 guys on base.

          There’s also Claiborne who hasn’t quite been as bad as everyone wants to think of late.

        • WhittakerWalt says:

          For someone who has such a reputation for “going by the binder,” you’d think Girardi would know things like this.

  74. Kronk says:

    Can we please get a second lefty from..anywhere? I’m so sick of Boone. lefty specialist my ass.

  75. forensic says:

    I can’t believe this was 9-1 and now they’re almost certainly going to have to at least warm up Robertson at some point, if not even think about Mo (though I still don’t think he’ll be used).

  76. WhittakerWalt says:

    Go away Boone Logan Phil Coke.

  77. forensic says:

    Who’s got the ‘no Boone’ sign handy?

  78. Wheels says:


  79. The Real Greg says:

    I think Kelley’s coming in now so let’s see how he does.

  80. Eddard says:

    Jobber Chamberlain and Boone Logan. What a tandem of setup men we have. Kelley and Preston should be the first options for the 6th and 7th.

  81. Frank says:

    Finally, an out. BTW-Logan you suck.

  82. forensic says:

    After today, lefties should have a lower OBP against Kelley than they do BA against Logan.

    But by all means, keep throwing Logan out there, please.

    • The Real Greg says:

      Better yet, just get another lefty, Perhaps Glen Perkins would want a new home.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

      I agree in general, but if they can’t use Logan with a 5-run lead against the Twins, when can they use him?

      • WhittakerWalt says:

        Never. That’d be my suggestion.

      • The Real Greg says:

        That’s why I don’t blame Joe for pitching them here. These are low leverage situations.

        This is where they are supposed to be pitched.

      • forensic says:

        Never would be fine with me. ;-)

        Seriously though, throw him out there against some mediocre lefties or at least guys who have bad history against him and lefties in general.

        Not guys like Mauer (5-10 with 4 BB against Logan) and Morneau (7-15, 1 2B, 1 HR against Logan).

  83. Wheels says:

    Good job Kelley.

  84. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Well done, Mr.Kelley.

  85. Frank says:

    Great job by Kelly.

  86. The Real Greg says:

    The only bad thing Girardi did in this game is leave Phelps in too long. Low pressure situations are where guys like Joba and Logan are to be pitched.

    Now I would replace Joba with Betances and might want to scour the trade market for a lefty.

  87. nsalem says:

    Before today lefties were .271 vs Logan and hitting .192 vs Kelly. Robertson against lefties is also much superior to our esteemed LOOGY.

    • The Real Greg says:

      Just get another lefty reliever.

      • nsalem says:

        Lefties are hitting .161 vs Robertson.

        • The Real Greg says:

          You need to have a lefty reliever in the pen. I don’t know of any team that has won a WS without one. I’m not saying stick with Logan.

          • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

            Not a single lefty reliever pitched for the Yankees in the 1927 WS.
            I’m sure there have been others.

            • The Real Greg says:


              Affeldt for the two Giants teams
              Cardinals had Scrabble
              Yanks had Marte
              Phils had Happ
              Sox had Javier Lopez in ’07

              So not in the last 6 years at least.

              • forensic says:

                Happ didn’t pitch through most of their postseason in 2008, but they did have other lefties.

              • forensic says:

                And in 2007, Lopez and Okajima for the Red Sox combined to pitch 3.2 innings allowing 6 hits and 3 runs in the World Series. Where ever would they have been without them.

    • Eddard says:

      Girardi’s playing the percentages. As Mr. Burns said, it’s what smart managers do to win ballgames.

  88. RetroRob says:

    Deep lyrics from Jay-Z’s upcoming album: “Scott Boras, you over baby. Robinson Cano, you coming with me.”

    Only Jay-Z could make Scott Boras a sympathetic figure.

    Who says they don’t write quality lyrics these days?

  89. The Real Greg says:

    Robertson didn’t pitch on Tuesday, so I’m fine with this

  90. Dalek Jeter says:

    Few things:

    1. What happened? I turned off the radio when it was 9-1?!
    2. I’m usually a bit of a purist when it comes to the uniform, but I really like the grey cap with the stars and stripes in the NY. Much better than the white ones.
    3. The bullpen couldn’t give up 1 more run so I could steal a save with Robertson?!

    • The Real Greg says:

      Logan and Joba sucked it up.

    • forensic says:

      A little bit of Girardi, Phelps, Joba, and a lot of Logan happened.

    • RetroRob says:

      Phelps tired, Logan sucked.

      I agree on the hat, only in the sense that if they are going to do something different with hats on the 4th of July, Memorial Day, Veteran’s Day, then I’d rather have something subtle. I have a strong dislike of the white and red hats. I hope they take this theme for the home caps on these special days. Leave the cap it’s traditional blue, and put the red, white and blue only in the NY logo.

      • Dalek Jeter says:

        They did that one year, I can’t remember what year, and it looked fantastic, and for the last like 2 or 3 years I’ve been looking for them with no luck. Lids didn’t have them, the MLB shop doesn’t have them, the Yankees clubhouse store doesn’t, and none of the stores I went to up in cooperstown two years ago had them.

        • RetroRob says:

          I don’t remember that cap, although I can visualize logo so well that maybe I just forgot about it. Perhaps it’ll make a comeback on the next special day. If so, run to your nearest Yankee store!

  91. Anderson Silva says:

    Great series. Even against the Twins, it’s not easy to sweep 4 games. Very nice job by the bats especially!

  92. Wheels says:

    Thanks for the nice stay Minnesota.

  93. forensic says:

    Very nice sweep! Could’ve done without some of the annoyingness from the last couple of inning, but a 4-game sweep is still a 4-game sweep.

  94. trr says:

    Just what we needed.
    Happy 4th indeed!

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