Jul
14

Game 95: End of the Half

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They call this the end of the first half even though the Yankees played their 81st game two weeks ago now. Eh, whatever, just roll with it. It would be nice to head into the All-Star break coming off a win, especially after yesterday’s frustrating loss, so let’s hope everyone can take care of business before their little mini-vacation. Here’s the lineup right-hander Kyle Gibson will face:

  1. CF Ichiro Suzuki
  2. LF Zoilo Almonte
  3. 2B Robinson Cano
  4. DH Travis Hafner
  5. RF Vernon Wells
  6. 1B Lyle Overbay
  7. SS Eduardo Nunez
  8. 3B Luis Cruz
  9. C Chris Stewart

And on the mound is the non-All-Star for the first time in four years, left-hander CC Sabathia. Carry them into the break, big man.

It’s hot and humid in New York, but there won’t be any rain. That’s a welcome change from the last week. First pitch is scheduled for a little after 1pm ET and can be seen on YES. Enjoy.

Injury Updates: Jayson Nix (hamstring) hit in the batting cage on Friday for the first time since going on the DL. He’s been riding a bike as well. Nix will head to Tampa to continue his rehab today … Brett Gardner is “beat up,” hence the day off … Derek Jeter (quad) was sick and away from the team yesterday. He’s expected back today, however.

Rotation Update: The rotation out of the All-Star break will be Andy Pettitte, Hiroki Kuroda, then CC Sabathia. Phil Hughes and Ivan Nova will follow in some order after that.

Roster Update: Travis Ishikawa has cleared waivers and elected free agency. He was designated for assignment when Jeter was activated.

Categories : Game Threads
  • trr

    I’d hate to gon into the break with 2 losses to the Twins percolating in my gut….CC has had great success in the past against the Twins…I don’t think we’ll miss Gardner today. Maybe he really is hurting, he’s been struggling at the plate recently.

    • I’m One

      I take nothing for granted with this team this season. CC could throw 9 innings of 1 run ball and still lose. I just hope CC’s at hist best today and that the team can score a few runs.

      • Winter

        I don’t really expect a shutout. This team is one of the best in the league at scoring exactly one run.

  • trr

    Man do I hate auto correct . I’m gonna turn it off

  • Dan

    Cano has two home runs today.

  • SDB

    End this half on a high.

    For Prussia.

    • Memes N Themes

      We need to bring the Prussia theme back.

      It was working early, then it stopped and the offense got progressively worse.

      FOR PRUSSIA!!!!

  • Snuke Swanky

    To all the people on the A-ROD thread who hope that Alex dies in a fiery plane crash, you obviously have failed to notice that Luis Cruz is our current starting 3rd baseman../gameover

    • radnom

      I don’t care who our starting third baseman is – getting out of that contract would be a huge win for the Yankees. Much more important than anything Arod can produce on the field at this point.

      Not stating an opinion on whether a lifetime ban would stick, or if its even being pursued. But if you interest’s align with the Yankees, then the undeniable best possible outcome is that Arod is banned for life.

      • radnom

        “/gamover”

      • Snuke Swanky

        Here, I’ll correct this for you, “if you’re interests align with saving the Steinbrenner family money, then the undeniable best possible outcome is that Arod is banned for life.”

        All better.

  • Snuke Swanky

    What the hell is wrong with mlb.tv?

    • Snuke Swanky

      there wee goeeeeee

  • Snuke Swanky

    Big man lookin sharp

  • Memes N Themes

    I’ve always been an A-Rod guy, but that $27.5 million would really help keep Cano, field a better team, AND get under the celery cap.

    • Dan

      I haven’t heard of the celery cap. But that is crazy that it exists. Who do they think they are? Mayor Bloomberg?

  • Snuke Swanky

    Fuck you God

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Could/should have bases loaded/no outs right now. Instead nothing.
    Feel free to not swing at the pitches out of the strike zone guys.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Dude is under .200 and Gardenhire doesn’t have him bunting?

  • Rolling Doughnut

    CC does not look sharp today.

  • Wheels

    shit CC

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Right down the middle. Cam’t wait to see how he does against Boston.

  • Cy Pettitte

    getting beat by the bottom of the Twins line up. ace-like.

  • Dan

    I can’t wait till Lincecum is a Yankee next year. Sabathia is a 4 starter.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      lol

    • Brian S.

      He’s actually more of a 3 but I could see how one might confuse him for a 4.

  • SDB

    Well, that takes the Yankees out of the game.

  • Snuke Swanky

    Well #gameover

    • Dan

      No, not until they score a 3rd run. Everyone knows the Yankees can’t score 4 times in a game. That is the number of defeat. 3.

  • Dan

    Seeing Sabathia up there gives me hope that the Yankees will definitely be extending Cano or signing him in the offseason no problem. Sabathia continues the track record of extending/signing guys who are about to begin a decline/cease doing what they are about to cash in for doing. Woop woop.

    • What

      Sabathia tends to resign players? Didn’t know he was the gm….

      • Dan

        The signing of Sabathia continues the track record.

        Sorry, thought it would go without saying. Well actually im pretty sure it did go without saying but you’re special and I can understand that things need to be explained to you in clear, concise ways.

  • Cy Pettitte

    Lohud Yankees Blog@LoHudYankees
    Chris Tillman, not Hiroki Kuroda, named All-Star replacement for the American League.

    ASG is such a joke.

    • trr

      I pay no attention to the game. None.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      He gets much better run support, so he must be the better pitcher.

      • Cy Pettitte

        Or his TWTW is just much higher. That must explain it. After all, home field advantage is on the line, you gotta get the guy who knows how to win.

    • Brian S.

      lol guy with 5 FIP getting the nod.

    • hey now

      Do we really want our best SP pitching in an exhibition game?

      Rest up, Hiro, you’ll be greatly needed in the 2nd half.

  • trr

    To me, Gibson looks really hittable…I think we ‘re gonna do some damage the second time thru the lineup

  • Brian S.

    Clearly there is no way that the Yankees can compete next year without CC and his 25 mil contract and >4 ERA.

    • Rolling Doughnut

      Best case scenario: CC is in transition, learning to pitch with lower velocity. Next year, he’s morphed back into an ace.

      • Brian S.

        Cliff Sabathia?

  • Wheels

    c’mon Nuney

  • Lukaszek

    That was an awful stolen base attempt. If Overbay didn’t walk, Hafner would’ve been out by ten feet

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      It wasn’t a stolen base attempt.
      It was a stay out of the DP attempt.

      • Lukaszek

        Hmm my mistake then. Still stuck in the NPT phase after waking up

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Stonehands Nuñez: 2013: 57 wrc+ -0.8 war. Career: 80, -1.2 But he has “potential”

  • Brian S.

    Grand slam Stewart calling it.

  • Dan

    Loading the bases for Chris Sewart with 2 outs. This team is such a tease.

  • Wheels

    Keeping expectations low here

  • Snuke Swanky

    Wa Wa WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

  • OldYanksFan

    Important Question:
    I am assuming that ARod will, at minimum, get a suspension, and I assume some of it (especially if he appeals) will be served in 2014.
    I have heard that if suspended, he salary does NOT count against the Tax threshold.

    So…. when is the team Salary that the Tax is applied to calculated?
    If ARod serves 100 games in 2014, that’s 100/162nds of $25m, or $15.4 million. That would give us some real coin to the 2014 payroll while still being under $189m.

    • Dan

      Yes. Another reason to hope he gets suspended. I like the main reason of him not being good at baseball anymore.

      • Snuke Swanky

        Agree. I’d much rather have Luis Cruz at third base than one of the top 10 players in the history of baseball

        • Dan

          Wow, great point. In that case Cal Ripken is somewhere up there and he’s still alive, so we’d prefer him at SS to someone who was not in that list. You’re a very smart fellow. I’m glad what Arod did up until 3 years ago is enough for him to be a permanent fixture at 3b for years to come. I think I just found out why you don’t have a career in the FO of a MLB team.

          • Snuke Swanky

            Luis Cruz #gameover

          • OldYanksFan

            Your point is correct but…..
            It would not be hard for ARod, even greatly diminished, to be better then what we are running out there. At least ARod knows how to take a Walk.

            But no matter, I put the odds of ARod getting suspended at 95%. It just a matter of if it is 50 games or more. And chances are we can spend the money we save in a much better fashion.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      I thought the salary still did count against the luxury tax threshold.
      Not certain of that though.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Yay for #RISPFAIL

  • Dan

    Ryan Doumit looks like an alien.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    WTF was Wells doing?

  • trr

    Stewart terrible w/RISP.
    Who said grand slam?

  • momomo

    vernon?

  • Wheels

    WTF was that?!?!

  • trr

    Cano WTF you doin’

    • momomo

      cano? vernon wells should have been under that ball hours before cano even got there.

  • Lukaszek

    Wells isn’t doing this fielding thing very well

  • SDB

    For those of us not watching/listening to the game (or watching Texas/Detroit instead), what just happened with Cano?

    • Lukaszek

      Morneau hit a fly ball to right field and looks like Wells lost it in the sun, so Cano ran deep to the outfield to field it. Cano was about to make the catch Willie Mays style, but the ball fell out of the web of his glove and allowed Morneau to go to second

      Wells’ fault mostly, since Cano should not be going this far into the outfield

    • momomo

      Popup way out into right field. easily well’s ball, but wells decided not to go after it and cano ran probably 100+ ft. into the outfield and almost made an amazing catch.

      I can’t stress enough that this was in no way cano’s play to make

  • nsalem

    The Thursday game in Texas is a 2:05. Can’t remember Yankees playing to many summer afternoon games in Texas.

  • Wheels

    fuckin Nunez

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Fucking awful.

  • Wheels

    Great, game over.

  • Kramerica Industries

    FFS.

    What a shitty day.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Un-fucking believable.

    Fucking awful all around today.

  • momomo

    no need to read sabathia’s lips after that one…

  • Karl Krawfid

    Team is fucking trash.

  • Cy Pettitte

    this team is fucked, dropping games against the Twins with 10 against BOS, TEX and TAM coming up after the break.

  • SDB

    Unbelievable.

    Un. Freaking. Believable.

    This team is about to go 1 for 3 against the Twinkies.

  • HateMclouth (formerly I’mVernon)

    Great, CC…

  • Lukaszek

    O jesus christ Hicks. Yup we lost. I just hope this isn’t one of those games where we get behind and the offense goes like 2-for-23 to end the game

  • Kramerica Industries

    It’s now been three straight home-stands without a winning record, if the Yankees don’t comeback today.

    Pathetic how bad this team is in its home ballpark.

    • Dan

      In order to play well and be a winner at YS3 you have to have a lineup with more than one person who hits HR’s. They currently don’t.

  • Jag

    That was quite the audible F-bomb from CC after the HR on the YES feed.

    • Wheels

      just rewound it, yeah

  • brian

    you know what? this is an opportunity..

    if the yankees are going to come back from a 5 run deficit… THIS is the game

  • Dan

    I like the losses that are losses by the 3rd inning. It frees me up to watch other things. I may even take my dog for a walk. I doubt it, but maybe.

    • Rolling Doughnut

      It’s early. It’s the Twins. I’m not giving up yet.

      • trr

        Me neither!

  • brian

    I’m calling it now, they win this game 8-6

    Terrible pitcher, terrible team, shaky bullpen, small strike zone.. at home, ball carrying… all the signs are there

    Except, you know, the crappy lineup part

  • momomo

    I hate everything about you Vernon Wells!

  • Lukaszek

    When was the last time Yankees lost a series to the Twins?

    Seems like August 11-13 in 2008

    • Kramerica Industries

      They’ve never dropped a home series with Gardenhire at the helm.

      • Lukaszek

        Wow, yeah. It seems like they dropped two series in 2007 and 2008 but they were both at the Metrodome. This Yankees team is “special” however

  • Wheels

    jesus

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    This team is just fucking laughable.

    • OldYanksFan

      Yes…. we knew that at the beginning of the season.
      Before Grandy reinjured himself.
      Before Teix was out for the year.
      Before Youk was lost for most of the year.
      Before Cervelli missed more than half the year.

      As the team is currently constructed, NOBODY thought they could possibly be at the ASB 7 games over .500.

  • Cy Pettitte

    this team runs in to minimum 2 outs on the bases per game

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Fuck. Had to send him though.

  • sangreal

    average speed runner tagging on a fly ball just past 3rd base. What could possible go wrong?

    • Rolling Doughnut

      Disagree. The ball was not deep but it was not “just past 3rd base” either. Almonte has above avg speed, with their lineup they have to push the envelope.

    • Matt

      Thomas made one of the most unbelievable throws you will see after the one that Hicks made the other night. That was a great tag and he made a great throw. Nothing you can do.

      Now if this offense could actually do something besides hitting lazy fly balls and ground balls on the infield, it might not have mattered.

  • Jag

    Can’t blame the decision to try and tag up there… that was one heck of a throw from the left fielder to make the play, and Almonte is pretty fast.

  • nsalem

    That must be Jorge?

  • JMK

    With the Yankees struggling so much to score runs, you have to send the runner there.

    Almonte’s slide was stupid and he didn’t time running at the catch well either.

    • Rolling Doughnut

      +1 and +1.

  • momomo

    I’d love to hear David Cone give an actual reason why he thinks CC is going to be better in the second half..

    • Rolling Doughnut

      I personally expected Cony to say: CC sucks now that he has diminished velocity. If he doesn’t become a strict control pitcher, he’s fucked.

  • Frank

    Nothing like turning on the game in bottom 3 and watching this team fail to score yet again, and CC already has the team in a deep hole. Three more years of rapidly diminishing CC at 20+M per. Good luck with that.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Girardi has noticed that CC’s for shit today right?

  • WhittakerWalt

    Ahh, I see CC’s given up another 5 runs. Is this another of those “well he didn’t really give up those runs” kind of things, or is this one actually on him?

    • JMK

      You could argue most of the runs were on the defense. CC has not been sharp though. There’s no doubt about that.

    • WhittakerWalt

      Never mind. Coney just informed me that 3 of the 5 runs are unearned. Which turns this into an official Mussina Game.

    • Wheels

      Two stupid errors needlessly led to CC giving up the 3 run shot, so it’s not just on him.

      • WhittakerWalt

        The big hit always seems to be on him, though. Errors happen. Pitch through it once in a while. CC’s been terrible at picking up his fielders.

  • Matt

    This team needs to decide NOW whether they want to contend. If they do, then they need to make a trade NOW for 1 or more bats. Not on July 31. NOW.

    If they wait until July 31, unless A-Rod and Jeter are healthy and 100% themselves, and guys like Hafner start to hit better, this team will probably be very far out of a playoff spot. Probably at least 5 games, if not more.

    If they do not plan to contend, then they should be selling off some pieces like Wells, Ichiro, Hughes, etc. who can help contending teams and still fetch them something in return.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      Didn’t you say the exact same thing about 2 weeks ago?

      • Matt

        Yes, because it applied just as much if not more.

        If they keep waiting around for injured players to return and try to figure out whether they are contenders, it will be too late to contend.

        Attendance is way down because this is one of the most boring Yankees teams to watch in decades. If they stand pat, they will not only not make the playoffs, but the fans will not pay the outrageous prices to watch them.

        They have to either make a trade to boost their chances and attendance, or trade non-core players away to get pieces to help them restock. They can’t have it both ways, and with $189 million looming, the fans will be even less likely to show up if they continue to be greedy.

      • Matt

        A few weeks ago, they had a little time left to figure things out. Now, they don’t. If they don’t make a trade now, they will need to add a star to have any hope of making up the gap.

  • momomo

    In other news, Chris Davis has hit yet another homerun

  • WhittakerWalt

    There are not enough guys named “Clete” anymore.

  • Cy Pettitte

    this is the worst defense I’ve ever seen

    • JMK

      Remember the 2005 team?

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Apparently the Yankees have started their all star break early.

  • Wheels

    shitty hop

  • Alkaline

    Holy sloppy baseball batman!

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Jesus.

  • Kramerica Industries

    What the hell are they doing in the field today?

    I mean, holy crap, just get the Benny Hill music already.

    • Lukaszek

      Did that really just happen? No that didn’t just happen, my eyes are sending false messages to the cerebrum

  • momomo

    I’d rather see anyone other than Vernon Wells out there. Literally anyone. What’s Ricky Ledee doing these days?

    • JMK

      Doesn’t look like much. His wife cooks for him, he teaches salsa part-time, and he uses Twitter.

      https://twitter.com/ricky_ledee

      • momomo

        Sign him! Preferably to a $21 million/year contract because that’s just how we roll. Also, I love the fact that his bio declares this his official twitter account, but he isn’t important enough to actually get his account verified by Twitter.

      • momomo

        He also tweets at Ken Rosenthal who then ignores him entirely. This is some depressing stuff.

  • WhittakerWalt

    Didn’t Vernon Wells used to be a Gold Glover? Damn.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    CC let Mauer get away and now it’s Morneau with the bases loaded. Oh boy.

  • Alkaline

    lol

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Bad News fucking Bears

  • JMK

    Fuck everything.

  • momomo

    man, morneau really got a hold of that one

  • Wheels

    Unfuckingreal.

  • Snuke Swanky

    NOT AN ACE..can’t even field his own position

  • WhittakerWalt

    SMH

  • Alkaline

    LOL you can’t make this up.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    WTF????!!

    May as well just forfeit the rest of this mockery of baseball.

  • SDB

    the wheels have fallen off

  • Wheels

    Booooooo

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      +1

  • WhittakerWalt

    WHAT

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Now I guess it’s time to do something else today.

  • Pat D

    Because I’m not much paying attention today, I’d just like to jump in here and let everyone know that Leyland picked Chris Tillman to replace Verlander on the AS roster.

    Anyone think he actually called the Yankees and asked if Kuroda wanted to participate?

    • momomo

      “Chris Tillman wins baseball games dag nabbit.” – James Leyland

    • JMK

      Doubt it. Frankly, I don’t give two shits about the AS game. I still can’t believe it actually determines home field advantage. (We won’t have to worry about that this year, luckily.)

    • Lukaszek

      Hiroki Kuroda didn’t deserve it frankly. It’s not like he has the second lowest ERA in the American League, or somehow has a winning record on a severely offensively challenged team or anything

      • Pat D

        Of course! How could I have been so short-sighted?

      • momomo

        Can’t argue with Tilly’s 119 FIP-. Definition of an ace right there. Seriously Jim, are you stupid, drunk or just an old racist?

        • Snuke Swanky

          Payback for Wake Island

  • momomo

    And this is from a halfway decent fielding team!

    http://www.fangraphs.com/leade.....;sort=18,d

  • Kramerica Industries

    Poor latinos with no gloves would be putting out a better defensive display today.

  • WhittakerWalt

    No problem. We just have to score 9 runs.

  • SDB

    Where’s that gif of Girardi throwing in the towel?

  • fabricio

    everyone just go home and forget about the yankees until after the break

  • Matt

    The bottom line is that the Yankees knew they had players injured. Jeter and A-Rod were known to be out for the start of the season back in October. They had players that were not asking for a lot like Martin, who they let get away due to greed. Other key depth players like Chavez, not asking for more than a few million, they let get away due to greed.

    They dug their own grave and now they’re falling into it. Last year’s team had a ton of injuries too, but they were much deeper. There is no reason with the Yankees franchise to cut your payroll like that, and you leave yourself no margin for error when you do so while under big contracts.

    They are not this bad just because of the injuries, they are this bad because they have nobody to back these guys up. If they had Swisher around, he could have moved in to play 1st when Teixeira got hurt. If they had Martin, it wouldn’t have mattered if guys like Cervelli got hurt. Chavez could have moved in at 3rd when Youkilis got hurt. That is the difference.

    • Snuke Swanky

      Not to mention the fact that it’s shameful to cut payroll (and essentially rebuild) when the guys that saved your franchise (Jeter, Mo, Pettitte) are at the end of their careers.

      They owe it to those guys to be all in.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

        They haven’t cut payroll (not yet anyways). They’ve mostly just spent poorly.
        Agree that Mo deserved much better for his final season though.

        • Matt

          You have to stop thinking about it so literally. Their payroll in absolute terms is high, but if you take out the money that Wells is getting paid by LA, it is almost the same as last year.

          The difference is that they were not planning to spend that money if not for the injuries. Take out the money from Youkilis as well, plus some of the replacement players, and for filling out the payroll number by giving Pettitte a huge raise when he probably would have played for less, and we are essentially talking about a payroll roughly $20 million less than last year.

          That is basically Swisher + Martin right there. That’s a huge difference. Those guys have been worth 6 wins between them over the last few seasons.

          • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

            They’ve mostly just spent poorly.

            So you’re agreeing with this. They’re payroll this year, discounting what other team’s are paying for players, and including payments made to other teams, is at an all time high. It’s just been spent poorly.

            • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

              *their

  • Wes

    This team is depressing to follow, we have one of the worst farms in baseball, and everyone on our team either sucks or is old. We should trade kuroda, logan and hughes to pick up a couple mid level prospects to add depth to our farm. We have no shot at the playoffs with this team and there is not one person in our farm im excited about

    • Derbs1221

      We actually have a decently ranked farm system…

    • JMK

      We do not have one of the worst farm systems in baseball – I’d say it’s mid-tier. Not everyone on the team sucks or is old (though it sure seems that way).

      Kuroda is going nowhere. Chances are Hughes and Logan aren’t either. Because you won’t get back the value they provide. It’s a longshot that we make much noise in the playoffs, but it’s possible.

      Gary Sanchez, Rafael DePaula, Slade Heathcott, Mason Williams, Tyler Austin, Eric Jagielo, Ian Clarkin, Aaron Judge, Campos are all guys that are fairly exciting prospects, even if they’ve many have by and large disappointed this year.

      • Derbs1221

        Even Betances as a reliever is exciting now

      • Wes

        Who says the yanks have a good farm? Cashman? Lol heathcott austin flores and williams are bust, depaula is a reliever , yanks will screw sanchez up. They have a brutal farm

  • Alkaline
  • WhittakerWalt

    This will be the most exhilarating comeback win of the year.

    • Alkaline

      +1

  • Alkaline

    Is this the start of the comeback?

  • Wheels

    Cruz is probably gone for a month now.

    • Wheels

      ok, he’s fine. Way to sell it

  • WhittakerWalt

    Least-damaging outcome of a Stewie AB, I guess.

  • Alkaline

    8-3 here we go!

  • WhittakerWalt

    It’s a start.

  • WhittakerWalt

    What’s with all the first pitch swinging at a guy who’s not throwing strikes?
    Oh, right. THIS OFFENSE.

  • trr

    Shocked and disappointed

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Yankees position by position sOPS+ (split relative to league average at that position)
    C- 78
    1B- 75
    2B- 157
    3B- 60
    SS- 63
    LF- 63
    CF- 119
    RF- 84
    DH- 82

    They’ve been awful at a whole lot of positions. Frankly, it’s somewhat of a miracle that their record is as good as it is at this point. They have a lot of holes to fill though. Probably more than they realistically can or will be able to actually fill.

    • WhittakerWalt

      Translation “GET THAT BUM CANO OFF MY TEAM!!!”

      j/k

    • Snuke Swanky

      Hopefully A-rod gets suspended so we can use the extra $15M saved against the luxtax to make serious offensive upgrades at 5 positions…….not to mention that he’s a terrible person who deserves to suffer

      • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

        Does a suspension affect the luxury tax situation?
        It doesn’t seem like it would.

        • Snuke Swanky

          I was skeptical of this too…http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....6lc3zvQPfN

          • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

            Hopefully this is correct, if he’s actually suspended, and the Yankees actually stick to the $189M plan.

            • Snuke Swanky

              I don’t see how it’s that beneficial considering that they’ll have to fill 6 offensive positions & 3 rotation spots going into next year. It helps, but it’s not worth clammoring for the guy to get suspended.

              • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

                There’s a strong chance the money saved could be spent better than for whatever production ARod still may have left in him. Filling out a very strong team withing $189M is going to be unlikely regardless of what happens with ARod.

                • JobaWockeeZ

                  Right which is why I find all the all in posts to be humorous. There’s really no point.

                  • Snuke Swanky

                    There is really no point, as long as you assume that $189m plan isn’t completely stupid

                • Matt

                  That’s definitely not true. What free agents are available who can even remotely approximate a healthy A-Rod’s production? This offseason was a prime example of how hard it is to piece together enough guys even when you have some money to spend.

                  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

                    You’re assuming he’d be healthy, normal ARod. That’s extremely unlikely.
                    Hypothetically, if he’s suspended 100 games, and because of appeals those 100 games came entirely next year. 100 games of his $27.5M AAV prorates to saving about $17M in cap space (if it actually affects the luxury tax situation at all). ARod in 100 games probably best case scenario right now might produce 2 WAR, and that’s probably being overly optimistic.
                    They should be able to get more than 2 WAR value for $17M in free agency or trade. Hell, just resigning Hirok would likely accomplish that.

                • Matt

                  And don’t try to tell me that they could sign some pitchers. The marginal value of another pitcher is low when you already have a good pitching staff. A-Rod’s boost to the lineup would be worth far more than adding another pitcher.

                  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

                    The only starter under contract for next year is CC. They still would need to sign/acquire 1-2 starters, probably a high leverage reliever or 2, and several starting position players. There are plenty of ways that money could be spent.

                    • Snuke Swanky

                      Don’t forget that Cano will probably get $25m+, which basically reduces the Arod savings to $7m. It’s hard to see how they can meaningfully upgrade a roster in need of 5 position players and 2 starting pitchers with those savings.

                      Yet, the real root issue here is whether or not they decide to stick to this needless & suicidal budget or whether they want to go after another world series while Jeter is still on the roster.

  • Bob Michaels

    Seasons over, release the washed up vets and bring up the kids who have potential and see what you got.

    • mac1

      What “kids” would that be?

  • WhittakerWalt

    Swinging at every damn pitch is not how you build rallies.

  • Leg-End

    Blow it all up Cashman. I don’t want to be negative but continuing down this road just means we end up in the exact same situation next year.

  • momomo

    David cone droppin some BABIP knowledge on us :0

  • Wes

    Nunez , 2 years ago was untouchable by Cashman, now he is a dfa candidate, same with joba

    • brian

      Yeh, it’s sad but they really could have gotten something of value for Nunez back in 2011 when he was 23/24 and had that good 2 or 3 weeks filling in for Jeter

      That was one of Cashman’s worst “non trades” in recent history

    • JobaWockeeZ

      You’re using a fallacy but you’re still somewhat valid. I was against trading Lee back then but had I known we’d use Montero on an unknown then I would’ve done a complete 180.

    • WhittakerWalt

      For some reason a lot of Yankee fans have had an irrational love affair with Nuney. It would have been very unpopular to deal him back then, back when he was considered a good hitter (by people who didn’t know any better).

  • brian

    Just looked at the second half schedule…. WOW

    I counted 6 “easy” games… 3 at home vs. the White Sox and the last series of the year at Houston (they’ll be long out of it by then)

    This season is going to slip away fast after the break

    • nsalem

      Do you mean “easy” games like these three “easy” games were supposed to be versus the Twins. With this team as presently constituted there are no easy games.

      • trr

        ain’t that the truth

  • HateMclouth (formerly I’mVernon)

    That double play may have just ruined our best chance at coming back.

  • Crime Dog

    Really think its about time Luis Cruz goes the way of Chris Nelson… I would rather see Adams struggle than Cruz at this point anyway.

    • Matt

      Cruz is only playing right now because Jeter is hurt

      • Crime Dog

        They haven’t said/shown that Nunez would shift to 3B when Jeter is able to play SS. Anyway, Jeter’s gonna be DHing some, so I’m assuming they would still need Cruz to play some 3B even when he’s back.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

        Probably not. They’ve said they plan to keep Nunez as SS only. Even with Jeter healthy, Cruz is likely the 3B, at least until Nix is back.

        • Matt

          The Yankees are idiots then if they play Cruz over Nunez.

          That is far different from the current situation, in which he has to play out of necessity.

          • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

            Not sure if you’ve noticed this, but Nunez is awful.
            He can’t play his natural position remotely well, much less anywhere else. And it’s not like he’s hitting this year either. Cruz at least gives solid defense.
            Nunez might be better at 3B than Cruz. That’s far from a given. He’ll most likely outhit Cruz. He’ll almost definitely be substantially worse defensively.
            Regardless, the point was Cruz would still be the 3B if Jeter was healthy. All indications are that that is true, right or not.

    • Wheels

      Chris Nelson, forgot about that guy

      • Crime Dog

        Like Mike said, the 2013 Sporcle quiz for this team in a few years is gonna be hilarious and impossible.

  • Matt

    I don’t think Cone is watching the same game as the rest of us. He keeps praising these awful Twins pitchers for their “great movement,” yet our hitters are getting themselves out by missing fastballs right down the middle that have almost no movement on them.

    With even a remotely competent lineup, we would easily have 5 or 6 runs if not more given the chances they’ve had.

    • The Real Greg

      Well he is a pitcher so he would have more experience from that side.

  • JMK

    DePaula v. Buxton right now on ESPN2 for those interested.

  • WhittakerWalt

    WHOA. I just caught up on the box score. CC gave up a home run to the guy with the .616 OPS??
    Holy shit, CC.

  • Shittyshittybangbang

    Eduardo Nunez – hitch in his swing, hands too low, susceptible to good heat, loopy swing and atrocious defensively. Seems un-natural on defense. Scouting might’ve caught up to him, and or, he read too many of his press clippings. If he can’t hit, then he’s of no use (maybe as a pinch-runner). Boom ! And your welcome.

    *scouting courtesy of “Oh so shitty, so very shitty scouting”

    • WhittakerWalt

      Or, as John Sterling would say, “we know Nunez can hit.”

  • Wheels

    Ichiro swinging the bat well.

  • WhittakerWalt

    Chip away a little faster, fellas.

  • WhittakerWalt

    LOL Hafner whiffing on an 88 MPH “heater.”

  • Wes

    Im fed up watching hafner and wells , they are so cooked its reficolous, can we just play someone else , any

    • trr

      Hafner…..ugh

  • WhittakerWalt

    Ma and Pa telling the story of how David Wright idolized Michael Cuddyer growing up, and that’s why Wright picked him for the HR Derby. According to Suzyn, Cuddyer is “probably” 10 years older than Wright. In reality, 4 years separate the two. I guess looking that up would have been too hard.

    • trr

      10 years OLDER???
      I feel sorry for you folks who have to listen to them.

    • trr

      Don’t they have a statistician to check/get info for them?

      • WhittakerWalt

        The thing is, you know this is a story she planned on telling, before the game. How about learning the essential facts of the story? It took me 10 seconds to check on my phone.

  • Wheels

    C’mon Robbie

  • Mick taylor

    This team is not making the playoffs, and even if they did, cannot win a championship. I would trade cano, Hughes, chamberlain, granderson , kuroda and rebuild for newt year. Kuroda and cano should get you top prospects or good young players. After the season the yankscould resign cano

    • WhittakerWalt

      The Yankees will be non-competitive for the next 5 years if they listen to you. Maybe that’s the kind of baseball you like to watch, but count me out.

    • Betty Lizard

      Well I for one am looking forward to newt year.

  • The Real Greg

    When this offense scores you four runs + you have to win the game. CC failed and the Yankees are in a tough situation. They are within striking distance of a WC, but should they go for it?

    • Wheels

      We were never in this game.

      • The Real Greg

        I know that. I’m talking about the season. They are going to be within 3 of the second WC. I don’t know if they want to go for it.

        • Snuke Swanky

          It’s not even a question. They’re within 3 games of the WC, of course they should go for it.

        • Wheels

          I’m just saying there is plenty of blame to go around today. Good question though about going for it, I don’t have the answer. Kinda leaning towards the blow it all up side.

    • trr

      Yes, always go for it

  • WhittakerWalt

    There’s the defensive catcher we all love.

  • WhittakerWalt

    Before this season started, I was definitely of a mind that if Hafner stayed healthy he’d be extremely valuable for the Yanks. He’s been healthy most of this season, and boy was I wrong. Outside of that first month he’s probably been the worst player in baseball.

    • trr

      I hear talk his shoulder is still a little iffy, but still…
      Like Youk, he’s thru

  • Mick taylor

    It makes sense to hang onto to cano kuroda granderson Hughes if you think they can win this year. This team cannot even if you add a bat. Get some young studs like a will myers and then in 2 years sign some stud free agents this team can be great again in2015