Update: Third opinion confirms Grade I quad strain for A-Rod

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(Update by Benjamin Kabak) 6:27 p.m.: A-Rod himself just went on Mike Francesa’s show on WFAN and stressed his desire to play. It doesn’t sound like he trusts the Yankees’ medical staff right now (fast forward to the 4:30 mark for that one), but he said he has to listen to his bosses. Give the whole thing a listen below (or here on Soundcloud. What a circus this is turning out to be.

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5:23pm: The Yankees will fine Rodriguez for not notifying the team before getting the second opinion, according to Jon Heyman. No idea how much, but it’ll be a drop in the A-Rod bucket no matter what.

3:24pm: A-Rod was examined by Dr. Dan Murphy in Tampa, who went over the MRI and agreed with the original Grade I quad strain diagnosis, according to Brian Cashman. There has been some improvement and the two sides agreed to a rehab plan. They hope to get Alex back into a simulated or rehab game on August 1st.

2:30pm: Via Steven Marcus: The Yankees will indeed discipline Alex Rodriguez for violating the Collective Bargaining Agreement and getting a second opinion on his quad injury without notifying the team in writing. They have not yet decided what that discipline will be, but I would be surprised if it was something serious like a lengthy suspension.

A-Rod, meanwhile, issued a statement today saying yesterday’s fiasco was the result of “crossed signals.” You can read the full statement right here. Unfortunately, “enough doctors, let’s play” isn’t nearly as catchy as “we play today, we win today, das it.” Rodriguez is being re-evaluated again today, presumably by a team-approved doctor.

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Thursday Night Open Thread
  • Andrew

    ‘Enough doctors, let’s play’ should be on the 2013 team’s eventual tombstone. Also I think it was floated around the Twitterverse that the punishment for violating the 2nd opinion proceudre in the CBA is a fine. So the front office can recoup a few more pennies of that self-inflicted mistake contract that they’re just so bitter about willfully giving to A-Rod.

  • Adam

    This situation is seriously a total embarrassment to have happen to the Yankees and shows what a ridiculous disconnect there is amongst the higher-ups. Everybody knows they’re waiting for baseball to suspend A-Rod, but to go out there and feed the fans this bullshit all year long about how they were treading water and waiting for the reinforcements to come back, and then to have one of those reinforcements ready and not use him is an absolute joke. This team has zero interest in fielding the best team possible to win a championship like they’ve been lying about since last year, and this proves it.

    Let’s say MLB suspends A-Rod today and he appeals it. What are the Yankees going to do until the actual appeal is heard? Continue to try and keep him on the phantom DL with a quad injury for the rest of the year?

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      When did they say they were fielding the best team possible?

    • BFDeal

      Phantom DL? Oh, I guess I missed the story about the phantom hip injury and the phantom hip surgery.

      I guess some people will believe anything as long as there’s a good conspiracy story behind it.

  • Philip

    They should just sell the team already . George’s sons have no balls or interest in running this team like there dad! #disgrace

    • Ed

      Let Mark Cuban buy the Yankees, that’d be fun


    Is sending your MRI to a doctor really a “second opinion”, though?

  • Shittyshittybangbang

    Top 4th, due up for Yanks; Lillibridge, Cano, Wells. What a shit sandwich for Cano, jeez louise !

  • jsbrendog

    I don’t get what is so complicated here.

    Yanks were set to activate arod monday. he said he couldnt play sunday, 3b or dh. so they gave him an mri. why would they then try to keep him on the dl if they had already been planning and ready to activate him on monday? he is the one who asked out of sunday. you don’t do that and then expect to get activated. wtf.

    • bkight13

      I agree, the plan was to activate him Monday. If he hit for the cycle Sunday and was good to go, they obviously would have started him Monday. There is no way around his contract besides retirement or a suspension. They have to play him at some point and they were fine with that. If he comes back and gets injured again, that would only help them with the insurance claim.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      and now another Doc confirms quad strain

    • mitch

      Come on man. Don’t let facts get in the way of a good story.

      • jsbrendog

        that’s the problem. I can’t handle all these armchair gms, drs, and owners here whining and yelling when they don’t even know the facts. It just frustrates the hell out of me haha. I just need to stop reading the comments i guess but that sucks. i like the community here overall. oh well.

    • mustang (The Has Beens & Wannabes Bunch 2013)

      I like to thank jsbrendog for actually commenting the truth and staying out of ” Let’s just blame the FO world”.

  • Jim James

    I wish A-Rod wasn’t as universally loathed as he is, because the Yankees as an organization have acted ignorant & embarrassing throughout this whole ordeal as well. They deserve to be called out for it. Any other player & they’d be getting killed in the media every day. Instead Cashman just throws his hands up like “Can you believe THIS GUY?” & the media gets all giddy & just salivates over the chance to kill A-Rod in their next column or TV/radio appearance.

    • kenthadley

      Arod became “universally loathed” the old fashioned way, he earned it. As much as I’d like to call out the FO, it’s hard to stay spotless when wading through as much crap as Arod generates.

      • LarryM Fl

        Great comment, Amen!

    • jsbrendog

      please elaborate how the yankees have acted ignorant and embarrassing. please.

      • Shittyshittybangbang

        Ignorant and embarrassing ?! Let’s see…, they gave a 33/34 year old a 10 year, 275/300mm dollar contract. Yeah, that about covers it. But, they did out-bid the next highest team….., themselves. Boom !

        • jsbrendog

          i don’t think you understand what those words mean… plus that contract from 5 years ago that as signed by someone who has been put in his cat caddy since is completely irrelevant to how arod has acted like amanda bynes and the yankees haven’t really done anything wrong other than maybe cashman’s STFU (which he apologized for) and the leaks about trying to get outof his contract (which is a fair response with how arod has been acting)

          for fuck sake the dude was about to be activated and asked out of a game himself!! they said ok then dh and he said nah cant do that either. and then after getting an mri the next day said NAH IM GOOD! and acts like there is some conspiracy. hires a dr he never met to go on the radio and say he is healthy….and then releases that obnoxious PR today….only to be shown to have an actual quad strain by another dr (and if you think the yankees are making it up now with teams already filing complaints about them and the mlb and mlbpa having their eyes on them you just should stop) arod has gone off the deep end.

      • BFDeal

        You’re not going to get a response from Jim because he doesn’t know how to answer that.

        • Jim James

          It didn’t get a response because it was nothing but more “But A-Rod’s a vewwy vewwy BAAAAD MAN” stuff.

          • BFDeal

            You just proved my point.

          • jsbrendog

            uhhhhhhhhhh what?

    • bkight13

      I haven’t seen one bit of evidence of wrong doing by the Front Office. ARod missed games during his rehab to meet with baseball, ARod spouted off on Twitter about being game ready, ARod was the one that said his quad was hurt and then tried to find a doctor that would say it wasn’t hurt. Being cautious with an aging vet coming off his 2nd hip surgery, especially after seeing Jeter get re-injured twice trying to push it, seems responsible. Getting upset that your superstar keeps stepping in it seems very reasonable.

      • mustang (The Has Beens & Wannabes Bunch 2013)

        Stop with all this reasonable shit.

        The Yankees front office was behind JFK’s death.

  • forensic

    Four out of five dentists agree…

  • gbyanks

    Just wondering but how who here would sign a petition to try and get Mikhail Prokhorov to buy they Yankees? Love to see that man spend without a salary cap to deal with

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      Spending really hasn’t been the problem.
      Spending well and player development have been the problems.

    • Gonzo

      OPS, I has it.

      – Mikhail Prokhorov

      • jsbrendog

        wee took nets, wee took kovalchuk. watch out NJ giants. no worries, we no want NJ Jets.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Wee took all uf Rohbeensun Teelahpeea’s pahrkeeeng.

  • Gonzo

    But can “Dr.” Dan Murphy pass an internet background check?

  • Steinbrenner’s Ghost

    ARod trending world wide on twitter.


    • Shittyshittybangbang

      Color him red. You know how he hates the attention.

  • Dalek Jeter


    • jsbrendog

      Man, Brian Cashman’s latest news conference got out of hand really fast didn’t it?

    • SDB

      thank you!

      I’d rather talk about where Romine’s getting this power from suddenly. XBHs!

      • Slu

        If Biogenesis was still open, that would be my first guess… :)

    • mustang (The Has Beens & Wannabes Bunch 2013)

      Agree but unfortunately permanent brain damage has already occurred read above.

    • Hall and Nokes

      The sad part about this is I think your projected hitting line is optimistic.

  • Dan

    The Yankees intend to fine A-Rod $100 million.

    • LarryM Fl


  • Greg

    should hit him with a wet noodle. Anything harder and he’d probably have to go back on the DL.

  • ARod’s Quad

    Like I said, I feel fine.

    Or do I?

    I have more ups and downs than Tori Amos before her morning chammomile.

    Ya know, I used to be so jealous of my owner’s purple lips, but who’s laughing now?? I am the most famous body part of them all!

    • jsbrendog

      ok, this is hilarious

    • Robinson Tilapia

      +5,000,000 for the Tori reference.

      Fun fact: I’ve seen Tori Amos in concert 16 times.

      • ARod’s Quad

        Sometimes, when I’m all alone (well, with the rest of ARod’s body), and we’re staring at the Centaur painting, and I’m dreaming of coming back and hitting a first pitch off Mark Guthrie, I listen to Tori’s version of Raining Blood, and I weep not just for once was, but what could have been.


  • JLC 776

    Can they fine him $100M?

  • Get Phelps Up

    Why is fining him even worth it? it’s not like it’s going to really set him back financially or anything and all it really does is bring a bunch MORE media attention to this stupid story.

    • Get Phelps Up

      And now I see that it violated the CBA so I guess they had to do something.

  • Crime Dog

    Alex on Francesa just now. Francesa: “Do you trust the Yankees?” Alex: “(Long Pause) Ummmmm I’d rather not get into that”. Great answer.

    He also said he cleared the “second opinion” with Randy Levine. Of course he did. Two morons really.

    • Gonzo

      Wait till you hear more about the second opinion doctor. This is a circus.

      • jsbrendog

        Arod has gone full Amanda Bynes. seriously.

        • Gonzo

          Add in the Britney Spears watch back in the day.

        • Gonzo

          Did you see the slumlord stuff?

  • Gonzo

    But wait, there’s more!!!!

    The Daily News is reporting more on the doctor that gave the interview to Francesca!

    Just when you think it’s safe…

  • Eddard

    It’s obvious what needs to happen is A-Rod needs to get a 4th opinion. That will settle the matter once and for all.

  • Esteban

    And now the WFAN interview…..

  • Gonzo

    What are the odds of an A-Rod sex tape being released this weekend?

    See! His is quad is just fine. You can’t do that on a grade 1 tear.

    • Mike HC

      I think “grade 1 tear” takes on a whole different meaning in the context of a sex tape.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        ….or a centaur.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          …..but especially during a centaur sex tape.

  • Frank

    Please someone end this. I am so sick of it. MLB needs to announce its suspension and end this already.

    • Get Phelps Up

      If/when a suspension is announced it’ll probably be even worse…

  • EndlessJose

    This is A-Rod fault.He complained about his leg Saturday and said he might not be able to play Sunday and Monday.

    When a 38 year old man with two bad knees says he doesn’t feel well of course the Yankees are gonna be cautious.

  • hornblower

    Francesa’s ego is as big as ARod’s. A talk show host getting in the middle of a story. What a joke!

  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    So, can we all agree now that Cash was “in the right” for telling Alex to shut the f@*k up?

  • Justice

    So Arod did NOT know he could file a grievance ?

    Alright, so why was a lawyer present to document things at the meeting with Brian and Levine ?

    Even Sammy Sosa was better at lying.

  • Jarrod

    When allowing for MLB to suspend him for the rest of this season I think the punishment should be *checks Cots Baseball Contracts* lets say, 4 year suspension and $86m fine. Sounds reasonable.

  • cranky

    don’t know why the Yanks are messing around with A-Rod.
    the guy just wants to play.
    i’m sure he’s ready to comeback, hit 2 homeruns, strike out 37 times, and slug .388, while playing 3B like a statue. i mean–just look at what he’s done in the minors during his rehab.
    give the guy a chance!!!!