Game 129: Rebound

August 24, 2013 by Mike Axisa 227 Comments

The Yankees’ five-game winning streak came to a screeching halt last night as the Rays roughed up Hiroki Kuroda, and now it’s up to CC Sabathia to stop the bleeding. The Bombers can’t afford any kind of prolonged longing streak, even two losses in a row at this point. Sabathia has to be stopper he was as recently as last year. This year’s CC won’t suffice. Here’s the lineup Joe Girardi is running out there against reigning Cy Young Award winner David Price:

And on mound is Sabathia, who never seemed to pitch well at Tropicana Field even when he was at his best these last few years.

I don’t know what the weather is like in St. Petersburg but it doesn’t really matter because of the roof. First pitch is scheduled for 7:10pm ET and can be seen on YES. Enjoy.

http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

Ok. Plain and simple: it’s time for the Ace to be Ace”y”
- Pseudoyanks
  
  Right!
Kramer

Reverse lock?
- http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso
  
  Let’s hope. He’s even admitted this year that the Rays have his number. Walking in, knowing that, he needs to be fired up.
  - trr
    
    not a very appealing matchup, is it
    - http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso
      
      Not really. I may be acting nonchalant, but I have agita.
tmoney

This lineup looks so much better when Jeter comes back. Light years better now than a month ago. Imagine no injuries…..
Eddard

They pay CC $20 million to win these ballgames and he needs to start winning them. These next two games are must wins. I’m not worried about Nova because he always pitches well against TB. It’s CC who doesn’t live up to his billing.
- http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso
  
  So….we need a reverse lock tonight and a real lock tomorrow?
  
  That feels tough. I’m going to be more reasonable and just ask the Yanks to score a combined 28 runs between tonight and tomorrow.
  
  Boom. Do it.
  - Eddard
    
    It shouldn’t be a reverse lock. CC is paid $20 million to beat the Rays, Sox, Os and Jays. He should be able to match Price inning for inning. And if this offense spots him 3-4 runs he can’t cough it up like he has all season against division rivals.
    - http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso
      
      I know, I know. I was trying to keep it light. Trying to stay loose. Go out there and have fun, its only a game.
      
      Yadda yadda, ….forget it.
Eddard

Boston is up 4-2, Oakland up 2-1. This is why tonight is a must win. They got lucky those teams lost last night but they won’t get lucky again. If they lose tonight they’ll lose ground on every team ahead of them, excluding the Os who they already lost a game on yesterday.
- CS Yankee
  
  “…excluding the Os who they already lost a game on yesterday”
  
  Sat what???
  
  O’s need to beat every team in front of them (except when NYY pass them) and lose to every team behind them.
Wheels

Big game, what else can you say.
Leg-End

Come on CC, just be good again tonight.
http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

Wow.
Wheels

Cowbell night? grrreat
http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

We need a cardboard pin-up of Rachel Phelps to get us through the rest of the season.
Rolling Doughnut

Three well-struck balls off Price. Get him early guys.
Elton Cod

Nunez hit that one hard, but I have no idea what he is doing in the 2 slot. Cano, Rodriguez, Wells, Soriano, Granderson, and Reynolds all should get more at-bats than Nunez. Period. I guess Ichiro lead-off is okay because of his reverse split and because the Ancient Rules of Baseball say the lead-off man should be speedy and incapable of hitting home runs. Should bat Soriano 2nd; move 5-8 up a slot; bat Nunez 8th.
- Eddard
  
  I love Nuney in the 2 hole. He’s got speed and he’s swinging a hot bat. Wells shouldn’t be getting more ABs than anyone else on the club.
  - Elton Cod
    
    Of course you do.
    - vicki
      
      you snaked my joke, guy.
- Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)
  
  He’s been hot lately, and has pretty good numbers against Price.
  Not as terrible an idea as it would normally be.
Kramer

The theme continues:

Line drives finding gloves.
- Rolling Doughnut
  
  It would appear so. And in the Dodgers-Sox game, the Dodgers hit into three line drive DPs.
  - vicki
    
    that sucked but lackey was on his game, too. much as it pains me to say.
Itsallhowuseeit

They are seeing the ball well against Price tonight. CC just needs to not put them in a 5 to 0 hole and let them tag Price 2nd and 3rd time through order
Elton Cod

These days, I am surprised when Nunez’s throw isn’t off.
Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

ARod showing off the range…yikes.
Leg-End

Strike 3 not called, next pitch goes for a double. Excellent.
Rolling Doughnut

CC hangs his first changeup. Got off lucky with Longo AB.
Kramer

You know, when you have to deal with the absurd gimmicks of Tropicana Field, you really appreciate the Yankee Stadium experience so much more.
- Jean Paul
  
  I would appreciate a baseball stadium with absurdist gimmicks. I like to be reminded of the essential irrationality and meaningless of life wherever I go.
  - Rolling Doughnut
    
    Like maybe have all the signs say NO EXIT.
    - Jean Paul
      
      Or have Eduardo Nunez batting ahead of Robinson Cano and Alfonso Soriano.
    - vicki
      
      well done, both of you.
Wheels

Vernon Wells everybody.
Itsallhowuseeit

There ya go wells make him work
Rolling Doughnut

Jesus Alex two hops?
vicki

geno smith: strong arm; zero pocket presence.
Kramer

I’m seeing 94-95 on the stadium gun. What does YES have?
- Rolling Doughnut
  
  I’m watching a Japanese feed and they had CC topping out at 95
- RetroRob
  
  Same.
Rolling Doughnut

About time we get one.
Elton Cod

All the well-hit balls make outs, the Mark Reynolds bloop shot drops for a hit. conclusion: stop hitting balls hard.
Itsallhowuseeit

Tatooed and of course dp
- Kramer
  
  The BABIP gods are not on the Yankees side right now.
  - Rolling Doughnut
    
    Price does not look sharp. Second time around next inning, they get to him.
BigBlueAL

Sure looks like CC is getting squeezed compared to a fairly generous strike zone for Price.
Wheels

nice play CC
Eddard

This is what had to happen, CC had to match Price inning for inning. If he gets any type of lead he needs to make it stick through 6 when they can set up their bullpen.
Itsallhowuseeit

CC wants this effing game!
Rolling Doughnut

The big man off the mound!!
vicki

pfp ftw.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

Piniella, Munson, Chambliss.
Rolling Doughnut

That’s why Nuñez in the two hole against Price does not make sense. At least with Granderson, there’s the chance he goes yard.
Elton Cod

Cano has caught the ‘weird half-assed bunt/fake bunt with nobody on for automatic first strike’ disease that Gardner, Ichiro, and Jeter have.
Itsallhowuseeit

The rays will make the playoffs…. And their 300 fans will be so stoked
dkidd

blue jays in total free-fall

deeply satisfying
- vicki
  
  except that it makes us look a little less cool for dominating them.
  - Rolling Doughnut
    
    Just thinking the same thing. Definitely looked uncool last night.
Elton Cod

Joe Maddon is what happens when you take Girardi’s random meddling with matchups and shifts and make it actually make sense so it positively affects outcomes.
BigBlueAL

Tonight is easily the best CC has looked all season long.
Eddard

Now they’re stringing some hits together. Now get these runs home for CC.
http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

I cannot stomach the Rays announcers right now. Turning it off.
Elton Cod

Maybe Curtis wouldn’t have struck out if he hadn’t wasted a strike on a totally inane bunt attempt.
- VT Yankee Fan
  
  I just said as much to my son. That was stupid.
Itsallhowuseeit

Little rally….sure hope stewart is taking some practice swings in the tunnel
And in merrie olde England

Is it old timers day – in the booth? I’m sure one of them is grandpa Simpson.
Wheels

Come on Romine
Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

Come the fuck on. Maybe the New Lineup can bring somebody in.
Itsallhowuseeit

Ump has missed strike 3 on both sides
- http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek Roadgeek Adam
  
  That ump is Jerry Meals…unfortunately.
  - Wheels
    
    Fortunate for us in that instance.
Brooklyn Nets

I prefer Stewart. That at bat would’ve lasted 3 pitches if Stewart was in there. Would’ve given me time to go grab another beer.
Eddard

So much better than Stewie. What an AB for Romine.
John

Romine is definetely locked in … Girardi needs to play him more … even the first AB he hit it hard .. unfortunately it was right at someone
Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

Wow.
Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

Great AB.
SeventhAce

Lettuce rejoice! Romaine walks in a run!
Leg-End

Tremendous AB.
BigBlueAL

So much for my earlier comment about Price getting a generous strike zone tonight lol. Great at-bat by Romine.
Elton Cod

That was such a gritty RBI from Tromine, Stewie and Nix must be proud.
Itsallhowuseeit

Damn nice ab…stewart will still start tomorrow
Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

See, before I would have predicted that we don’t score, but I have faith in the New Lineup (TM).
Eddard

Romine playing like a veteran tonight.
Itsallhowuseeit

And he can run the bases
dkidd

that kid has iceberg in his veins
Leg-End

Romine’s doing it all.
Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

And WOW. Go Romine.
Eddard

Romine got 2 runs for CC, now he needs to make them stick in a pitcher’s duel. He only needs to get through 2 more innings and they can set up their bullpen.
Elton Cod

Yeah, like I said, what the hell is Nunie doing in the 2 slot.

Good on T-Ro though, his baseball smarts on the basepaths put second half Stewart to shame.
Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

One Hell of an inning. Those are two pillow-soft runs, man.
fabricio

what a nice dive!!!
Wheels

Reynolds wants it.
Itsallhowuseeit

Reynolds! God i use to hate you
vicki

how ’bout one of them old fashioned shut-down innings.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek Roadgeek Adam

The Yankees new way of getting outs, try to tackle the runner on their way to first base.
BigBlueAL

For as bad as Reynolds is defensively at 3B he sure looks pretty good at 1B.
Eddard

Jerry Meals calling a great game.
fabricio

i think romine should be sabathia’s personal catcher
- vicki
  
  he pretty much has been lately.
  - http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso
    
    You want Romine as your personal ________.
    
    :p
    - vicki
      
      and how.
Eddard

This looks like the CC of old, coming back at just the right time.
vicki

ace-like.

knock wood.
Itsallhowuseeit

Shut down inning
Rolling Doughnut

CC’s best start of the year. So that’s what shut down innings feel like.
Eddard

I can’t believe that one didn’t go out.
- Rolling Doughnut
  
  got it off the end of the bat.
Elton Cod

such a shitty stadium to play baseball in
vicki

sterling.
Eddard

Get that pen ready. Kelley, Drob and Mo. You cant let this one slip away.
Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

Settle down please, cc
Ray

Bye lead it was nice having you :(
Eddard

He’s going to cough it up again. GET HIM OUT OF THE GAME!!!!!
Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

Well, this might be it then. Come on, CC.
Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

This is going to be really bad. Get him OUT of there.
Wheels

ugh.
Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

We’re going to be losing by a minimum of two runs by the time that CC ends.

CC sucks.
Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

Bullpen now please.
Eddard

He coughed it up again. He’s done it time and time again. Joe should not have kept CC in this ballgame.
Itsallhowuseeit

Typical
Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

Way to fall asleep at the wheel Joe.
- Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)
  
  That outcome wasn’t at all predictable.
Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

How the fuck is he still pitching?
Eddard

I just don’t know how many times Girardi is going to keep CC in there as he gives up the lead. He’s been spotted leads against the Os, Rays and Sox all year and has blown them all. He just shouldn’t be given that long a leash anymore.
Itsallhowuseeit

And there it is
SeventhAce

Someone grab the binder and rip out the page with large bold letters saying “CC: PC minimum 100″…
Cy Pettitte

such trash, please turn in your Ace card if you haven’t already.
Itsallhowuseeit

I love how Girardi is a slave to his binder on shit that doesnt matter but the real things like longoria owning CC he ignores
Wheels

Is anybody up in the bullpen?
- Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)
  
  Claiborne is (or at least was).
  But we all know CC can’t come out until he’s thrown at least 100 pitches, regardless of game situation.
Rolling Doughnut

Girardi hasn’t gotten the message that CC sucks this year. He should have had Claiborne up when CC didn’t get the 9 hitter.
Elton Cod

During this rally with runners on I haven’t seen one Tampa Bay hitter waste a strike by trying to bunt. Are you watching, Granderson/Girardi/etc?
Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

We have to figure out a way to get him out of the rotation. There is absolutely no way they can make the playoffs with him pitching.
Eddard

I hope Fernando Rodney shoots hit arrow right into CC.
Kramer

The fact is, that was insanely predicable when he let fucking SAM FULD lead off with a hit.
- Itsallhowuseeit
  
  CC historically has a problem given up walks, hits and homeruns to guys hitting under .230
  - Kramer
    
    But, FFS, the lineup turns over and Fuld is a sub-.200 hitter. That’s how rallies start; bullshit like that.
Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

If we lose this game, we’re in huge, huge trouble.

When you’re winning by two runs in the 6th inning and your pitcher has a shutout going, you HAVE to win that game when you’re in the position the Yankees are in.

What a demoralizing inning. What a demoralizing game. What a demoralizing season for CC.
Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

And now Nunez. Here comes the fourth fucking run.
- Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)
  
  Phew.
Elton Cod

GOD FUCKING DAMMIT NUNEZ.
Wheels

fuckin Nunez
Elton Cod

Mark Reynolds looking like Mark fucking Teixeira at first lately. We need it. You really need a 10′ man to play 1st with Nunez, you need that much reach to catch all his stupid fucking throws.

That inning sucked, but it’s not the end of the world. Yeah, CC needs to not give up 3 runs, but a 1-run deficit with 3 to go isn’t the end of the world. If it is the end of the world, if we can say right now the game is over, then our offense is to blame. As it has been all year. 3 runs is completely beatable.
Kramer

This game is so similar to the last time C.C. had a good start. The game in Baltimore. He fell apart in the sixth there, too.
Rolling Doughnut

McGee: a strike out pitcher for our strike out hitters.
Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

Come on New Offense (TM).
Itsallhowuseeit

Vernon Wells = suck
Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

We got this guys.
- Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)
  
  Okay, we’re going to lose. I was just bullshitting positive vibes.
  - Mickey Scheister
    
    ietc
Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

Oh, fuck you, Reynolds.
Mickey Scheister

CC Sabathia: Not an ace.
- Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)
  
  old news
acb

I can guarantee CC will give up a home run this inning and put this game further out of reach.
- Tracker
  
  Wrong dipshit.
BigBlueAL

The wind is blowing in tonight at the Trop. At least it is when the Yankees are batting.
- Wheels
  
  They play “Hey Joe” when Girardi walks out to the mound.
  - Wheels
    
    Reply fail. But yeah, it sure seems like the dome wind is blowing in.
Itsallhowuseeit

Sam Fuld yankee killer…pathetic
Kramer

Starting to remember why its been three years since I last went to this hellhole. This stadium and its fans can go fuck themselves.
- george c
  
  you sound like a fun guy to go to a game with
  - Kramer
    
    This is actually why I seldom go, and only by myself. I cannot just “have a good time” at a Yankees and/or Rays game.
    
    I’ll go if these two meet in a playoff series. Otherwise, the irritation is just too much.
    - Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)
      
      I give you credit for acknowledging it, at least.
    - Elton Cod
      
      Move to a National League town. That way games are a) mostly irrelevant and b) kind of quaint, because of that silly no-DH thing. No stress, just a nice day at the park, watching players fling the old horsehide around.
- Rolling Doughnut
  
  Dude the Yankees are getting outplayed. Suck it up. 6 outs to go. Anything can happen right?
  - Kramer
    
    Do I have a choice? I’m not exactly the type to bail early.
Shittyshittybangbang

Could be I’m paranoid, but does anyone else think that those “devilish” Rays might be manipulating the “air” inside that blimp that they disguise as a ballpark ? The balls hit by Soriano and Romine seemed to “die” in mid-air. And one of the announcers made reference to the “air” being shut-off. Off for us, on for them ?! Maybe …, or maybe I’m just paranoid.
- Rolling Doughnut
  
  Bullshit. The devilish Rays are probably just better than us. Even, it appears, with our new old lineup.
- Frank
  
  I’m sure the CC apologists will say that tomorrow.
  - Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)
    
    This makes 0 sense.
- Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)
  
  Bwahahahaha…yeah, okay. And there are fans in the stands who take out leafblowers when the announcers aren’t looking and the Yankees are at bat.
Frank

Inexcusable play by Cano.
Darl

Just tuned in. Is that Lou Pinella’s voice on the broadcast?
- Wheels
  
  yep.
Itsallhowuseeit

Sad. Sam fucking Fuld is a one man show
Frank

Nice job by Claiborne.
Elton Cod

Just saved Girardi’s ass for his decision to let CC let someone on and Cano’s ass for whatever that was.
BigBlueAL

Ichiro is beyond awful offensively right now.
BigBlueAL

Amazing how many times the Yankees put a ball in play and Im immediately thinking base hit only to have a Tampa player make the play for an out.
tj

how can they start ichiro next yr he is total shit?
Frank

Unbelievable defensive positioning by Rays this game. At least 3 hits taken away.
acb

The Rays defense really makes the Yankees look like little leaguers. Seriously seems like they steal so many hits due to great defense.
Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

So, do the Yankees put another man on base?

I’m going to say no.
tj

that bs he balked mf
acb

what exactly is Cano complaining about? he literally just took a pitch right down the middle.
Itsallhowuseeit

Cano looking stupid just watching that pitch
Eddard

I just think CC is an overweight sunk cost at this point. His best days are behind him. In a game he knew he wasn’t going to get much run support he went out and coughed up another lead, just as he has done time and time again this season against division rivals.

And if Girardi had any clue in his head he would have had relievers ready to go in the 6th and pulled CC at the first sign of trouble. That’s why he’ll always be a step behind Maddon, who thinks ahead of the curve.
Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

Game over.

R-Tils, just so you know: If we lose tomorrow, I’m not proud of this Yankees team. In their best chance at a comeback, they would have folded like a house of cards.

And honestly, even if they win tomorrow, this was a crippling blow.
Frank

Yanks should try to trade CC to SF this offseason. I bet he’d waive his no trade for a chance to be near home, plus he would be able to hit. Yanks would have to pick up some salary but so what. They did it with AJ.
- Eddard
  
  I agree. CC and Hughes should go there together. They may thrive in the NL West. One thing’s for sure, neither one can pitch in the AL East.
- Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)
  
  Why would they take CC?
Eddard

Boston wins, Cleveland wins, Oakland wins, Tampa wins. It’s over, folks. In a game they had to have their $20 million ace couldn’t get through one more inning and set up the bullpen. And the manager wouldn’t dare take him out and try to win a must win.
- Rolling Doughnut
  
  What were you expecting? They aren’t giving us an 11.6% chance of getting into the playoffs for nothing.
Rolling Doughnut

OK, CC coughed up the lead but he did only give up three runs. This one is on our “new” lineup which has not looked too good lately. Even against Toronto, there were several (3?) games in which people like Nix and Stewart picked up the slack.
- Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)
  
  Yep.
  - Frank
    
    Exactly what a lot of people will say tomorrow to rationalize the loss. Blame the offense. God forbid if CC could just out pitch someone for once.
    - Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)
      
      It’s not like the offense was good.
      CC not getting the job done doesn’t erase that fact.
    - Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)
      
      What the Hell are you talking about?
    - Rolling Doughnut
      
      CC sucks this year. I think we all agree on that one. But a one run deficit in the 7th inning with the A team should not be game over. IMHO
- Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)
  
  And to be honest, yeah, our lineup didn’t really improve THAT much. But when guys get hot, guys get hot.
  - Rolling Doughnut
    
    Right, and that’s really the larger issue going forward. 2014 could be a disaster. Reynolds, Granderson and why the fuck is Wells still out there, strike out way to much for what they produce. Oh yeah Soriano, having regressed to the mean, gets in the club too. Then there’s the pitching. ARGHHH
wow

well, the tease is over
Darl

Come on Brett….how about a slap single
Cy Pettitte

that pretty much does it for any playoff hopes. thanks again for a great year, CC.
Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

It was nice being good for awhile. Going back now to only flipping into the game when I feel like it.

Man, I hate this team.
Eddard

Phil Hughes ERA 4.88
CC Sabathia ERA 4.81

Send them both packing this offseason and the club will be a lot better off.
- Eddard
  
  But it’s the offenses fault they only gave CC a 2 run lead against a Cy Young pitcher like Price. They failed, not the $20 million ace pitching like a 6th starter and who has blown lead after lead this season against division rivals.
  - Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)
    
    Eddard, you’re a marvel.
Mickey Scheister

The Rays are the better team in 2013. Better hitting, pitching, defense, shifts, farm system and a better manager. This team seemingly always finds a way to win. The past week was fun but the Yankees inability to receive a clutch pitching performance againist this team will haunt them, meanwhile the Rays keep winning. But CC had a “quality start”!!1!!11. A “quality start” isn’t giving up 3 runs when your team has 2 and allowing fucking Sam Fuld to start the rally. Puke.
- BFDeal
  
  Nothing is stopping you from becoming a Rays fan.
vicki

that stung.
- Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)
  
  Word.
- Rolling Doughnut
  
  It also stunk. Or is it stank?
Itsallhowuseeit

Wow…reality set in. I say dont even bring Jeter back on monday…let him rest for his final season next year
Derbs

You all do realize there’s a month left of baseball and a lot can happen. Look at what happened do the sox a few years ago! We aren’t out of this and especially after a few tough losses.
- Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)
  
  True. If we win tomorrow it might not quite be over, though this would be a crushing blow.
  
  If we lose tomorrow, plan for football season.
  - Truther
    
    Christ dude just do what you said you were going to do and stop watching. You have been doing this two step pussy dance for weeks now. You are such a needy bitch.
    - Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)
      
      Holy shit… I never said I’d stop watching. I pay attention to the games, follow on the blogs, and watch when I fucking want to. Believe it or not, I can take an interest in the season without having to watch games that aren’t fun. If that doesn’t get me the True Fan (TM) moniker, oh well.
      
      I want them to do well, I pay attention even if I’m not watching to see what’s going on, and watch when it’s FUN. It’s not a difficult concept, and I don’t really get why you, or anybody else, is bothered by it.
- Rolling Doughnut
  
  Meh. We have an 8% chance of getting the second wild card. What is your definition of being out of it?
acb

random irrational thought, but wonder if the giants would trade matt cain for CC straight up.
OldYanksFan

We gave up 4 runs today.
If you think that’s it always the Pitching’s fault when we can’t Win a game when they score 4, then you are off base.

This team’s Pitching was never elite. If everything went right, it was at times, excellent. But it really just Very Good at best. To make the PS, we have to have an offense that can score more then 4 runs.

How many hits did we have today. How about yesterday? How about Thursday?

The bottom line is without Jeter and Teix, we don’t have enough fire power consistently.

Price is a great pitcher, and scoring 2 off him ain’t shameful. But we have played ‘meh’ pitchers many times and come up short.

Here it is.
We are 5th of 15 in ERA
We are 13th of 15 in OPS.

You tell me, Is it Pitching or Hitting that’s the problem?
- Rolling Doughnut
  
  Spot on.
OldYanksFan

Here it is.
We are 5th of 15 in ERA
We are 13th of 15 in OPS.

TO ADD:
We basically have the same ERA as Boston.
We basically have the same ERA as TB.
We have a slightly better ERA than Cleveland.
Our ERA is almost a half run better than Baltimore.

We are 14th of 15 in HRs.
We are 15th of 15 in Total Bases.

You tell me. Are we missing the PS because of Pitching or Hitting?