Game 131: The Captain Returns, Part III

(Jim McIsaac/Getty)

(Jim McIsaac/Getty)

For the third time this season, Derek Jeter is coming off the DL to rejoin the Yankees following a leg injury. His return lasted all of one game the first time before a quad injury sidelined him for more than two weeks. The second time it was four games before a calf injury sent him back to the DL. Obviously the Yankees and Jeter are hoping the third is a charm and the Cap’n will stay on the field for the rest of the regular season (and playoffs!).

Barring a surprise waiver trade in the coming days, the Yankees are now as healthy and full strength as can be. This is it, this is the team. We don’t have to wait for any more injured players to return*. Jeter’s return boosts the lineup and whatever intangible qualities he offers boost the clubhouse. His mere presence helps the team in a way I can’t explain. The Yankees with Jeter are a much better team than they are without him regardless of what he’s hitting. Very few players transcend on-field production like that.

Here’s the lineup that will face reigning NL Cy Young Award winner R.A. Dickey:

  1. CF Brett Gardner
  2. SS Derek Jeter
  3. 2B Robinson Cano
  4. LF Alfonso Soriano
  5. DH Curtis Granderson
  6. 3B Alex Rodriguez
  7. 1B Lyle Overbay
  8. RF Ichiro Suzuki
  9. C Austin Romine

And on the mound is right-hander Phil Hughes, who has actually put together two straight quality starts, including six innings of two-run ball against the Blue Jays last week. Needless to say, he needs to do that again.

The Yankees are playing in another domed/retractable roofed stadium, so the weather doesn’t really matter. If you’re curious, it’s supposed to rain on-and-off in Toronto these next few days. First pitch is scheduled for a little after 7pm ET and can be seen on YES. Enjoy.

* I’ve said this before.

Categories : Game Threads


  1. Eddard says:

    We’re very conflicted tonight. There are two equally powerful forces working against each other tonight. You’ve got the obligatory Phil Hughes loss but on the other hand you’ve got the club fired up for the Captain’s 3rd return. I know I predicted a loss earlier today but I think the Captain puts them over the top. I’d say Phil Hughes gets the win but let’s not get carried away here.

    • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

      You make the whole forum more interesting, Eddard.

    • OldYanksFan says:

      Phil Hughes and the Yanks might Win this game?
      PHIL HUGHES and the Yanks might Win this game?

      YOU SAID IT.
      Right here.
      I read it.

  2. I'm a looser baby, so why don't you kill me? (Formerly not the droids you're looking for...) says:

    Best lineup of the season?

  3. forensic says:

    Nice, no Cone but there is Leiter!

  4. VT Yankee Fan says:

    My 6 year old can’t stop grinning because the Cap’n is back. I’m never going to get him to sleep tonight.

  5. Darl says:

    Anyone else having trouble loading comments? Sometimes I see new comments, refresh, then get stuck with only old stuff…

    • RetroRob says:

      I have seen that happen once or thrice, including earlier today. It usually clears itself up. No idea why it happens because even hitting refresh won’t bring back the missing comments.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:


    • forensic says:

      I haven’t had comments disappear when I’ve been logged in (though it has happened when not logged in). There have been a bunch of issues with comments the last bunch of weeks though, including weird timestamps, comments placed in a weird order, and the total number not matching what it says at the top.

    • Get Phelps Up says:

      I’ve been having those issues for weeks now.

    • OldYanksFan says:

      These are Buffer issues.
      Try eating some bran…

  6. forensic says:

    Wow, that looked like strike 3.

    Where’s roadgeek adam’s umpire analysis???

  7. Eddard says:

    There’s Phil’s run. That should last him 2/3rd of an inning.

  8. Anderson Silva says:

    nice to have an early lead, especially with Hughes pitching

  9. Wheels says:

    Good start.

  10. Bob says:

    Quick question, how do they determine home-field advantage for wildcard playoff game? Is it better overall record or head to head?

  11. Anderson Silva says:

    Look at that, he got to 2 strikes and gave a hit. I have never seem him do that.

  12. Tom says:

    Better record determines it. If tied then it is head to head..

  13. forensic says:

    So, wow, Matt Harvey’s partially torn UCL seems to have come out of nowhere. That’s a real setback for their franchise.

  14. Alright, the fact that I’ve been asked for this, here we go.

    Jim Reynolds (HP)One of “1999-25″ umpires, Reynolds has a pitcher’s zone, not ridiculously hated zone, has a tendency to call strikes in favor of the pitcher to right-handed pitchers. He has a tendency for bad calls, but not that common. He also will not likely eject you, as he’s gotten less and less ejection worthy lately.

    Balkin’ Bob Davidson (1B)Alright, if you know the name Bob Davidson, you know the word balk. He is the most balking umpire in the leagues and if you even make a minor misstep, you will be called out on it. He also doesn’t take crap from anyone, infamously last year getting into a nose-to-nose fight with now-fired Phillies manager Charlie Manuel that got him a suspension. Interestingly, he has one of the fairest strike zones in the game, but one of the shortest tempers, including infamously ejecting Youppi!, the Expos mascot.

    Quinn Wolcott (2B)Fourth straight? series I believe with a rookie umpire (Hamari, Little twice). Wolcott is brand new as of May 27. People see him as an umpire with a big future. Early reports of him show a fair strike zone, but until we see more of him, hard to judge.

    James Hoye (3B)Working his 11th season of baseball, Hoye is a patient umpire, especially with the fact that he’s only ejected <20 people since his debut. Hoye, anytime he gets a called seems to get stuck being compared to Jim "STRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIKKKKEEEE" Joyce. Hoye's strike zone is erratic, however, we will not be seeing it, since he is the 4th umpire in a 3 game series.

    I’m not going to be 100% sure if Quinn Wolcott is just here for today, but this is John Hirshbeck’s crew. If John Hirshbeck, one of my favorite umpires, is here tomorrow, I will review him tomorrow. (I’ve had some of my most hated umps (Davidson, Meals, etc) in these, but not one of my Top 5.)

  15. Wheels says:

    So sick of crowds booing A-Rod.

  16. Tom says:

    Nice inning for Phil.

    Just needs to navigate the top of the lineup 2 more times and hopefully chew through the AAA bottom of the lineup the Jays are rolling out these days.

  17. Anderson Silva says:

    Ichiro got embarrassed on that AB. That was ugly.

  18. Anderson Silva says:

    Im watching the Jays broadcast and they have that little K zone feature at all times on the screen. One thing I have noticed so far with Hughes is that he throws A BUNCH of FBs in the middle of the plate, like middle middle.

    It’s no surprise he gets killed.

  19. forensic says:

    Well, this is a bad start to the inning.

  20. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Hughes starts are just so hard to watch.
    Even in the games where he pitches well.

  21. forensic says:

    Thanks for that bad baserunning.

  22. Itsallhowuseeit says:

    Robbie limiting damage

  23. Orville says:

    OF COURSE he still gives up the run.

  24. Eddard says:

    Unlucky there but he blew him away twice, should have done it again.

  25. Pseudoyanks says:

    How does he hit that pitch?

  26. the Real Greg says:

    Phil Hughes BaBIP: .315

  27. forensic says:

    Jeter in midseason form…

  28. Dro413 says:

    It’s absurd that Philip is still starting. Put him in the bullpen already or get rid of his ass!!

  29. the Real Greg says:

    Cito Culver, Cashman?

  30. Kramerica Industries says:

    You know, it was 1-0 when I took off, and 1-1 when I arrived. Fine.

    I check the log, and see it came on a two-out hit against someone hitting well under .200. No, that’s not fine at all.

  31. Wheels says:

    Damn, almost got him.

  32. Cy Pettitte says:

    Hughes is such trash, I’m happily counting down the starts until this gas can is gone.

  33. Frank says:

    Girardi better have a VERY short leash with Hughes.

  34. Anderson Silva says:

    please get rid of his ass

  35. Orville says:

    Really a shame that Phelps went down. I’d take him over Hughes any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

  36. 28 this year says:

    Make Joba a starter to replace Hughes. Only half serious but like really.

  37. the Real Greg says:

    Did Cashman really think that CC after shoulder surgery, Kuroda who’s ancient, and Hughes and Nova who can be up and down were going to carry this team to success?

    • the Real Greg says:

      Forgot Pettite who’s ancient as well.

    • Dalek Jeter says:

      Yeah, Cashman is suuuuuuuuuch a dumbass…they only have what…the 6th best overall staff in Baseball. Our struggles this season have everything to do with how bad/depth lacking our pitching has been and nothing to do with the fact that the 3-4-5 was Cano-Wells-Overbay for most of the season.

      • the Real Greg says:

        And that could have been avoided with a deeper farm system which goes back to Cashman.

        I look at Boston again, They trade Iglesias, they have Middlebrooks. They move Iglesias to third, they have Bogaerts.

        • Dalek Jeter says:

          A-Rod was replaced by Adams, Outfielders this season: Almonte and Mesa, Catcher: Romine (aka the guy who everybody has been begging to start regularly behind the plate), starters: Nova and Hughes, Bullpen: names too numerous to list. Come on Greg, stop.

          • the Real Greg says:

            Almonte I will give you, he has potential.

            Romine was going to be up here anyway at some point, especially now that we know Cervelli was going to be suspended.

            Nova and Hughes were already up here.

            The others: No

            • Dalek Jeter says:

              So because Romine came up and he would have been up to replace a guy who got hurt/suspended (otherwise known as the reason for having depth) he doesn’t count? And how come WMB and his negative WAR counts but Adams doesn’t? I don’t know why I’m responding. You’re a troll and you’ve won by getting me to argue…but I just need to make the point that nobody can be this fucking thick.

          • forensic says:

            Well, a couple of the guys you mention were already in the Majors, one was removed from the 40-man before being re-added, one is being begged to start because the other option is even worse, and one of the OFers is on the border of being removed from the 40-man (at least in many of our opinions).

            Those aren’t exactly shining examples of depth or a great system.

  38. Anderson Silva says:

    Can they put together a good AB against this guy? He is crap this season.

  39. forensic says:

    That was an impressive inning from the 3-4-5 in the lineup.

  40. Joey C says:

    Another game where the Yanks look like they’re sleep walking. I mean these at bats have been awful.

  41. Frank says:

    Dickey looks tough tonight. Can’t give up another run.

  42. Eddard says:

    They just can’t hit that knuckle ball. Dickey may be 0-2 against them this year but he basically had them beat both times until two late HRs by Overbay and Soriano turned the tide. I just don’t know if Phil is going to keep it close enough this time.

    • Pasta Stumbling Sojo says:

      He had them beat until… they beat him? Does their performance against him not count if it comes in the second half of the game? You must have loved CC’s performance the other day when he had the Rays beat, except for that minor detail of him blowing the lead later in the game.

      • Anderson Silva says:

        What he tried to say but couldn’t is that it looks like only the Yankees can’t hit Dickey hard this season (even though they won 2 games)

        • Pasta Stumbling Sojo says:

          I agree that’s not what he said. :)

          And yeah, the Yankees didn’t hit Dickey as well as other teams have hit him, but they also haven’t hit the rest of the league as well as other teams.

  43. Eddard says:

    Pillar cannot hit that FB. Blow it by him.

  44. Dalek Jeter says:

    God damn, I can’t believe how shitty that Hughes is.

  45. Dalek Jeter says:


  46. forensic says:


  47. Eddard says:

    Another big HR from Alex!

  48. Wheels says:

    A-Rod nukes Toronto.

  49. Anderson Silva says:


  50. forensic says:


  51. Dalek Jeter says:

    I hate Brett Lawrie. I have no idea why, but I just despise him like he’s Pedroia.

    • forensic says:

      I really hate him too. The way he acts and some of the stories and pictures from Milwaukee just really turned me off on him. I even hate him more than Bautista and Encarnacion.

      (plus, he’s on my fantasy opponent’s team this week)

      • Frank says:

        He’s just a hard nose player who plays with passion. Nothing wrong with that. Would love the Yanks to have him.

      • Dalek Jeter says:

        I don’t ‘hate’ Bautista and Encarnacion. They bother me because they’re talented (and probably PED’ing) and on a division rival. Lawrie just seems like…such a cock.

        • Darren says:

          Agreed. I mean, maybe he’s a kind-hearted, down to earth fella, but more likely he’s a douchewrangler.

        • forensic says:

          Eh, the way they act on the field after homers and stuff just bugs me. I shouldn’t take things like that so seriously, but I really prefer people to act like professionals who have done it before.

  52. Alkaline says:

    A BOMB!

  53. the Real Greg says:

    He is so lucky that he fouled it off. If that had gone in play, I would have been pissed.

  54. Alkaline says:


  55. Anderson Silva says:

    pathetic AB by Cano

  56. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:


  57. the Real Greg says:

    Just walked Jeter,

    let’s swing at three straight pitches.

  58. Darren says:

    Wow, I’m surprised Gardener just got his 500th hit tonight. It kind of shows you how amazing it is to hit 3,000. I mean, Gardener’s no rookie and a pretty decent hitter and he’ll probably never even sniff 1,500, maybe not even 1,000 if his injury bad luck continues.

    • Alkaline says:

      Eh, not that surprising. He got 132, 13, 128 hits in 3 healthy full seasons. One season to injury. First season was only 40 games, second 108.

    • Alkaline says:

      Eh, not that surprising. He got 132, 132, 128 hits in 3 healthy full seasons. One season to injury. First season was only 40 games, second 108.

      • Darren says:

        I mean, it’s not surprising once you look at the stats, of course. It’s surprising from an intuitive/feel point of view. It seems like he’s been here for a long-ish time.

  59. Alkaline says:

    So today was a shitty work day. Could someone tell a fun story? Joke? Anything?

    • forensic says:

      The Blue Jays are gonna win the World Series.

      Funny enough? :-)

    • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

      So two men walk into a bar. A third ducked.

      Ba-dum, tissssssssh.

    • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

      Or, my personal favorite:

      So a panda walks into a bar holding a badly punctuated wildlife manual. He orders a burger and eats it, takes out a gun and fires it into the air, then turns to walk out.

      Just before he steps out of the bar the bartender yells, “Wait! What was that about?”

      “See for yourself,” the panda replies. He tosses the badly punctuated wildlife manual into the bartender’s hands.

      Sure enough, when the bartender opened the book to the entry for “panda”, this was written on the page:

      PANDA – Eats, shoots, and leaves.

  60. Frank says:

    I gotta say Soriano has greatly improved over the years as a defensive OFr.

  61. Dalek Jeter says:

    Unlike most people, I didn’t expect Soriano to be terrible in the outfield, but I’m still pleasantly surprised by how well he’s played defensively.

  62. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Is anyone up in the Yankee pen?

  63. Anderson Silva says:

    his stuff is so mediocre. That breaking ball is very crappy.

  64. Joey C says:

    Hughes itching to give the lead right back. He just can’t help himself!

  65. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Oh FF sake. Take him out already.

  66. Frank says:

    Get up somebody Joe. This game on the verge of slipping away.

  67. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Need a very, very short leash.

    If only there was a way for the bullpen depth to have been a little bit higher quality…

  68. Kramerica Industries says:

    It’s taking Hughes absolutely no time to give the Jays the lead back, isn’t it?


  69. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    WTF was that Ichiro??????

  70. Leg-End says:

    Phuckin Hughes.

  71. Cy Pettitte says:

    Hughes is the worst, it’s the fucking Blue Jays. Stop sucking so much.

  72. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    When did the Yankees reacquire Bobby Abreau?

  73. Joey C says:

    Game Over.

  74. Anderson Silva says:

    wow, FUCK ICHIRO

  75. forensic says:


    (for real this time)

  76. Dalek Jeter says:


  77. Wheels says:

    Oh no, Ichiro

  78. Kramerica Industries says:

    And it just gets better and better now.

  79. the Real Greg says:

    That’s rare for Ichiro

  80. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Bullpen now please.

  81. Frank says:

    Tough error there. But a bomb nonetheless. In YS, it’s a 5-2 game.

  82. the Real Greg says:

    But at the end of the day it acts just as the sac fly, if the Blue Jays do not score again

  83. Eddard says:

    Girardi should have had Preston in this ballgame. If another score runs it’s over.

  84. Joey C says:

    Gonna be 6-2 before this inning is over. At least. Way to go Phil.

  85. fabricio says:

    dam hughes sucks

  86. the Real Greg says:

    In fact I can’t even blame Ichiro. Hughes is just awful.

  87. Frank says:

    Doesn’t matter. Predictable Hughes. Third time through the order- he gets lit up.

  88. UncleArgyle says:

    Remember when Phil Hughes was an effective starter? Yeah, me neither.

  89. Kramerica Industries says:

    Even when the Blue Jays absolutely suck, it’s still asking way too much for Phil Hughes to pitch a half-decent game in Toronto.


  90. forensic says:

    I sure hope they give Hughes a QO after the season and then figure out a way to re-sign him. Can’t afford to let this depth get away.

  91. the Real Greg says:

    Well done Yankees farm people for failing with Hughes

  92. Anderson Silva says:

    what a joke. Why does he keep throwing that shitty ass slider? Why is he still on the game, or the team for that matter?

    • Wheels says:

      Who else have we got?

    • the Real Greg says:

      Because Mr. Cashman didn’t think of having proper pitching depth IN HIS SYSTEM.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

        They had pitching depth.
        They’re all hurt.

      • Dalek Jeter says:

        Warren, Marshall, Nuno, Phelps, Pineda (was supposed to be healthy by now)

        Yeah, it’s totally Cashman’s lack of preperation that his 6th-10th starters have gotten injured. Everybody knows the Red Sox are 20 guys deep.

        • the Real Greg says:

          Then get more. As I said, scour the depths of the Earth.

          That’s why you can never have enough starting pitching.

          • Dalek Jeter says:

            There is a reason that Dice-K is starting for the Mets (is he even still), there’s also a reason (multiple actually)Halladay would be available, there’s also reasons Haren isn’t starting literally anywhere in baseball. You act like there’s some fucking wunderkind in some independent league throwing 99 easy with a killer breaking ball. This isn’t the 19-fucking-40s. If there was such a guy he’d be on the internet in a week and in a professional league/ML organization under contract in weeks.

  93. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Huff is up two innings too late.

  94. UncleArgyle says:

    About three batters two late Joe

  95. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Phil Phailed.

    Is Dan Haren still available?

  96. Eddard says:

    And this is why I thought they’d drop the opener. Oakland’s winning. They’ll need to take the next 2 or they’ll be eliminated.

  97. Frank says:

    Game over. No way they score 3 off Dickey.

    Just insert Warren as starter rest of the year. Hughes is done as a Yankee. Might as well see what Warren can do as a starter.

  98. the Real Greg says:

    You know if you believe that warming up hurts a pitcher, when should Girardi have had Huff warming there? Just curious.

  99. Crime Dog says:

    That’s gotta be the last start Hughes makes, barring an injury to someone. I’d rather see Huff or Warren or Bootcheck take the starts. Something to make it seem like, you know, the teams trying to win. Hughes hasn’t had a really good start since July 2nd vs the Twins. His last couple of starts were decent but it always feels like he’s teetering on disaster.

  100. Anderson Silva says:

    so the Jays triple A lineup is hitting our crappy pitcher. Time for the so vaunted good lineup to hit the Jays crappy pitcher.

  101. Joey C says:

    Yanks desperately need to answer back this inning with a couple of runs. Get it to where one swing can at least tie the game. Good start from Sori. Be nice if Granderson did something productive.

  102. Leg-End says:

    We need to score in this inning now, strike back quickly.

  103. Wheels says:

    Sori is good.

  104. Tom says:

    A 2 pitch pitcher with 2 kind of meh pitches is not going to be a viable starter. If both pitches are on he’s capable of putting together a decent start, but his secondary pitch is one that is very susceptible to platoons.

    The average lefty has an .850 OPS against him this year (That’s a top 25 hitter in all of baseball, and that’s the AVERAGE lefty against Phil). That is a result of his only non-fastball being a slider (and not a very good one). He never learned how to throw a change and without a plus slider he’s going to continue to be lit up by lefties. The curveball was at least platoon neutral (think Ivan Nova) so back when he threw it he could actually get lefties out; scrapping that pitch in favor of slider helped against righties but without a change he’s basically a bullpen arm with 2 pitches.

    If he was coming up through the system with his current stuff and pitch mix right now and you took away the pedigree and the prospect aspect of it he would be considered a bullpen arm with the possibility of being a spot starter.

  105. Joey C says:

    All of a sudden the strike zone has gotten bigger. Ump must have a date.

  106. Joey C says:

    Hughes coming out last week and saying he would be open to pitching out of the bullpen next year says it all. This guys is not a competitor. A true competitor who has confidence in his abilities would never come out and say that.

  107. Joey C says:

    Going to get nothing here. I’m sick.

  108. forensic says:

    It can’t be a balk if Bob Davidson didn’t even call it.

  109. Leg-End says:

    Can’t even get the ball in play for a run now.

  110. Kramerica Industries says:

    That’s the second straight game the Yankees have had that kind of wretched luck on a liner right back up the middle.

    • the Real Greg says:

      Yeah but the runner was at third with one out. Have to get him in.

      • Pasta Stumbling Sojo says:

        To be fair, there were 2 strikes by the time Soriano was on 3rd. It’s harder to expect someone to get him in at that point when the overall league average of getting that guy in is around 50% with a fresh count.

  111. Wheels says:

    Missed opportunity there.

  112. Crime Dog says:

    There’s no way that Phil Hughes gives this team the best chance to win every 5 days over other options right now. I was always a Hughes fan, and thought he could succeed eventually. But it’s obvious this is it. There’s about as much of a chance of him going 4 innings and giving up 5 or 6 runs as there is of him pitching a decent game.

    • Leg-End says:

      He’s not even a 5 and fly anymore, he’s a 3 and fly.

      • Wolfgang's Fault says:

        Granted, he wasn’t sharp, & he didn’t really have any command, but I’ve thought his actual stuff has been better over his past 3 starts. Just couldn’t put the ball where he wanted to, and Ichiro’s dropped fly ball didn’t help any. I also add that while it’s not an excuse, he just faced this same lineup 5 days ago. Gotta figure he had a problem trying to figure his way out of the lineup 3 additional times after going through it 3 times last week. Regardless, he has to do better than this.

  113. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

    Well that was depressing.

    Kind of sad to realize that our offense sucks…and it’s a big improvement over our old offense.

  114. Anderson Silva says:

    0-5 with RISP while the Jays are 4-7. One team can hit mediocre pitching.

  115. Eddard says:

    There’s no chance Hughes loses his starting job just like there’s no chance they DFA Joba. Cashman does not want do admit failure, especially after he tried to throw ownership under the bus for the Soriano deal and it blew up in his face.

    • OldYanksFan says:

      It’s the same old song with you. Cashman doesn’t take it personally. The vast majority of prospects fail. Even highly touted ones often don’t pan out.

      If you think Cashman’s ego would have him hurt the team, you just don’t have a clue.

      With Phelps and Nuno out, there is no one to replace Hughes with.

  116. Pasta Stumbling Sojo says:

    I think Sterling (yes, I’m stuck listening to him) wasn’t even watching when A-Rod struck out. He was babbling about how Granderson and Soriano have the green light to steal, and then you could hear the crowd cheering, then silence for a few seconds, then Sterling non-chalantly says, “Well A-Rod swung and missed, and he’s out.” And then continues to babble about Soriano and Granderson stealing. At least watch the game while you’re babbling.

  117. Wolfgang's Fault says:

    Same round curve/slider in the same location to Reyes, Goins, & Lind, sandwiched around Ichiro dropping Encarnacion’s warning track fly ball & that’ll get you taken out of most ballgames.

  118. your mom says:

    Fuck you Phil Hughes! Make like a tree and leave.

  119. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    I’d be shocked if they take Hughes out of the rotation, but if they did, who should replace him?


    • the Real Greg says:

      Jose Quintana….Oh wait. Another Cashman blunder.

    • Tom says:

      If Huff looks good tonight, and with expanded rosters coming up I’d go with Huff, hope for 4-5 innings and back him up with guys like Hughes and Warren. And hope it might be too early in the game for the opposing team to PH for the righty bats.

      They also have an offday coming up and could push his next start back 2 extra days (either way I think his next start would be with expanded rosters.

    • forensic says:

      At this point, I’d be fine with any of them.

    • Crime Dog says:

      Would have to think that Joe would go with Huff just because of his #VeteranPresents

      He’s 28 and at least has a track record of pitching in the big leagues. Not a good track record, but he’s been here before. Plus he’s looked decent in a really small sample size

  120. Anderson Silva says:

    Huff threw 3 pitches in the strikezone and still managed to walk the hitter on 5 pitches. How’s that even possible?

  121. Wheels says:

    Overbay hasn’t done shit in a long time.

  122. Leg-End says:

    Gallardo on waivers, any chance we got the pieces for him? He’s on a down year with a semi-expensive option for next year and a conditional team option for 2015.

    ERA stinks but he can’t be worse than Hughes right?

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

      I wouldn’t want to commit to him for next year.
      As for pieces to get him, it might be a straight salary dump. I don’t think they’d have to give up much, if they take the contract.

  123. Kramerica Industries says:

    Holy shit you suck Vernon Wells.

  124. Anderson Silva says:

    Wells PH for Gardner? What happened?

  125. Wheels says:

    The hell is Wells swinging at?

  126. Leg-End says:

    Brilliant AB Wells, quality stuff.

  127. Joey C says:

    Wells is absolutely worthless. And yet they’ll bring him back next year when he’s even worse.

  128. Joey C says:


  129. Kramerica Industries says:

    RHP hit almost .300 against Loup, so seeing back to back strikes in almost effortless fashion is pretty annoying.

  130. the Real Greg says:

    Brett hitting only .239 against lefties with a .305 OBP so the move makes sense statistically.

    1-2 with a walk Loup but it is a SSS.

    I’m in the middle on that one.

  131. forensic says:

    Stepped away from the TV for a minute, but seriously Wells for Gardner???

    Trying to weaken the offense and defense all at once?

  132. your mom says:

    Can Huff take Hughes’ place in the rotation please?

  133. Cy Pettitte says:

    I like when Huff comes in and does that thing where he prevents the other team from running around the bases, unlike Hughes.

  134. your mom says:

    Need to rally here. This is the inning!

  135. Wheels says:

    Gonna have to win the next two games.

    • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

      I don’t know. I don’t think it really matters anymore with the A’s winning. If we lose tonight, I’m calling it.

        • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

          I don’t see why this is funny. Whether or not I watch the team all the time or HOPE they win or not and whether I think the chance they have is realistic are far from the same thing. And if I change my mind on this point, then I change my mind. So what?

          I’m flattered by your obsession with my comments, but it is a bit creepy.

  136. Anderson Silva says:

    another RISP that they will strand

  137. Joey C says:

    Pretty damning effort tonight for a team desperately trying to make the postseason. I know Hughes stunk it up, but the offense looked absolutely listless.

  138. your mom says:

    Well that’s pretty much the game folks. Hughes with another fail today.

  139. Anderson Silva says:

    Beautifully done Alex. Vintage choke job.

    • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

      Coming from the man who was knocked out by Chris fucking Weidman.

  140. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Ugly. Hughes sucked but the RISPfail is the killer tonight.

  141. Cy Pettitte says:

    Hughes: 4.2IP 7H 5R 3ER 3BB 3K
    Huff: 3.1IP 0H 0ER 1BB 5K

    hmm, wonder which one should be starting on a team desperate to make the playoffs.

  142. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    I know he’ll likely be lousy, but I’m all for Huff getting a chance to replace Hughes. Maybe Hughes can be of some usefulness in the bullpen.

    • Crime Dog says:

      Basically this. Something’s gotta be done for the sake of being done. Joe’s been great this year but he really sticks by his guys. Stewart, Wells, Hafner, Hughes, etc… In many of those cases there was nobody to take their spot, but you gotta get Hughes outta there.

      Crazy thought: Phil Hughes is younger than David Huff. Remember when Hughes was a promising prospect? Me too.

  143. Kramerica Industries says:

    The St. Louis Cardinals are absolutely unreal at hitting with RISP. I have never seen a team so ridiculously good at doing it, especially Allen Craig. .450 average with RISP/2 outs. Crazy.

  144. Cy Pettitte says:

    They didn’t even put up a fight tonight against a terrible team, Jays pitchers breezed through this game. sickening.

  145. OldYanksFan says:

    Hughes was by no means good, but 2 of those runs were unearned. And another run came on a great pitch, that the batter manages to get a soft liner single on.

    But again…. 2 runs. Offense fail.

    • Frank says:

      Doesn’t matter. If this game had been in YS, Ichiro’s error wouldn’t have happened since that ball would have been in the seats for a 3 run HR. Hughes just isn’t any good. Bottom line.

  146. Anderson Silva says:

    you PH for and take Gardner out of the game but somehow Ichiro stays for the whole game. Girardi is a fucking dumbass.

    • Cy Pettitte says:

      Ichiro has 12,000 hits if you include back through tee ball as you child in Japan. You can’t just take a guy like that out of the line up.

  147. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Averaging 3 r/g over the last 7 games, 2.25 r/g over the past 4 games. That’s not going to get it done.
    (especially on days when Hughes is pitching)

  148. forensic says:

    Well, that sucked.

  149. OldYanksFan says:

    In his 6th year, Huff has a career ERA of 5.31 and a WHIP of 1.55.
    What makes you think he will do better then Phil?

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

      Over a full season, it’s unlikely he’d do better, and he may very well be worse.
      Over a month, when Huff has looked OK in his last couple of appearances, what’s the harm in taking a shot?
      The added benefit would be Hughes could possibly be useful in the bullpen.

  150. trr says:

    Not a good start to the series.
    Gotta win the next 2


  151. Frank says:

    If Yanks have any chance to make playoffs, they absolutely can’t keep throwing Hughes out there as a starter. Start Warren or Huff but they to try something. Hughes gives them hardly no chance to compete, much less win.

    • Rolling Doughnut says:

      Hughes was not as bad as usual tonight. This one’s on the offense, which has been weak the third game of the last Jays series.

      • Frank says:

        Don’t know which game you were watching. But if you believe so, so be it. Watch him this weekend in Baltimore if he starts. He’ll get gang raped.

  152. Humdinger says:

    Thanks for coming up big for us Hughesy…ya POS!!!!!

  153. Frank says:

    Sucks for Mets. Harvey and Hefner both needing TJ surgery.

  154. Joe says:

    Alex Rodriguez striking out with a runner at 3rd and less than 2 outs shows you exactly how dumb this team is. Sure A Rod can hit his 30 homers, but stats don’t prove he has any baseball IQ. There goes that notion that strikeouts don’t matter especially when it cost the Yankees at least 1 run and possibly more if Granderson’s and A Rod’s at bat resulted in something other than a strikeout. Granderson and A Rod both left at bats on the table where fouling off the 2 strikeout pitches could have resulted in something other than an out being made in their respective at bats in that inning. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, not every bad pitch thrown right down the middle can be hit out for a homerun. This team is just dumb for not realizing this. Hitters may not like it, but sometimes you have to accept shortening up and be willing to take singles on pitch right down the middle. It’s okay to try to swing for a homerun once in a while, but with this team it’s like every single at bat. It’s no wonder why when they don’t hit the homerun they can’t score. Taking long swings every at bat isn’t going to make this offense a better hitting team with RISP. Hitters have to learn to balance taking shorter swings with longer ones.

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