Game 131: The Captain Returns, Part III
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For the third time this season, Derek Jeter is coming off the DL to rejoin the Yankees following a leg injury. His return lasted all of one game the first time before a quad injury sidelined him for more than two weeks. The second time it was four games before a calf injury sent him back to the DL. Obviously the Yankees and Jeter are hoping the third is a charm and the Cap’n will stay on the field for the rest of the regular season (and playoffs!).
Barring a surprise waiver trade in the coming days, the Yankees are now as healthy and full strength as can be. This is it, this is the team. We don’t have to wait for any more injured players to return*. Jeter’s return boosts the lineup and whatever intangible qualities he offers boost the clubhouse. His mere presence helps the team in a way I can’t explain. The Yankees with Jeter are a much better team than they are without him regardless of what he’s hitting. Very few players transcend on-field production like that.
Here’s the lineup that will face reigning NL Cy Young Award winner R.A. Dickey:
- CF Brett Gardner
- SS Derek Jeter
- 2B Robinson Cano
- LF Alfonso Soriano
- DH Curtis Granderson
- 3B Alex Rodriguez
- 1B Lyle Overbay
- RF Ichiro Suzuki
- C Austin Romine
And on the mound is right-hander Phil Hughes, who has actually put together two straight quality starts, including six innings of two-run ball against the Blue Jays last week. Needless to say, he needs to do that again.
The Yankees are playing in another domed/retractable roofed stadium, so the weather doesn’t really matter. If you’re curious, it’s supposed to rain on-and-off in Toronto these next few days. First pitch is scheduled for a little after 7pm ET and can be seen on YES. Enjoy.
* I’ve said this before.
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We’re very conflicted tonight. There are two equally powerful forces working against each other tonight. You’ve got the obligatory Phil Hughes loss but on the other hand you’ve got the club fired up for the Captain’s 3rd return. I know I predicted a loss earlier today but I think the Captain puts them over the top. I’d say Phil Hughes gets the win but let’s not get carried away here.
You make the whole forum more interesting, Eddard.
Phil Hughes and the Yanks might Win this game?
PHIL HUGHES and the Yanks might Win this game?
BUT YOU SAID WE WILL ALWAYS LOSE 2 OUT OF EVERY 5 GAMES!
YOU SAID IT.
Right here.
I read it.
WHY ARE YOU CONTRADICTING YOURSELF?!?!?!
Best lineup of the season?
But where’s Chris Stewart???
That’s WHY it’s the best lineup of the season
It sure feels like it.
Nice, no Cone but there is Leiter!
My 6 year old can’t stop grinning because the Cap’n is back. I’m never going to get him to sleep tonight.
Anyone else having trouble loading comments? Sometimes I see new comments, refresh, then get stuck with only old stuff…
I have seen that happen once or thrice, including earlier today. It usually clears itself up. No idea why it happens because even hitting refresh won’t bring back the missing comments.
yep
I haven’t had comments disappear when I’ve been logged in (though it has happened when not logged in). There have been a bunch of issues with comments the last bunch of weeks though, including weird timestamps, comments placed in a weird order, and the total number not matching what it says at the top.
I’ve been having those issues for weeks now.
These are Buffer issues.
Try eating some bran…
Wow, that looked like strike 3.
Where’s roadgeek adam’s umpire analysis???
Momentarily.
I was busy working on my research of the Northern State Parkway…
lol, that was quick.
It’s up and I’m disappointed. My most hated member of the umpire roster is at Citi Field tonight.
I assume that’s the legally blind Angel Hernandez.
You got that right. Knowing our luck we get him Friday.
Is there any rhyme or reason to the rotation (not from base to base) of the umpiring crews from series to series, or is it pretty much random?
Not really sure I know the answer to that.
Michael Young nearly took his head off tonight. Miffed it missed.
I thought I saw Balkin Bob Davidson at 1st
There’s Phil’s run. That should last him 2/3rd of an inning.
and people say I have no faith in Hughes…
nice to have an early lead, especially with Hughes pitching
Good start.
Quick question, how do they determine home-field advantage for wildcard playoff game? Is it better overall record or head to head?
Better season record.
Thanks
Look at that, he got to 2 strikes and gave a hit. I have never seem him do that.
It’s absurd that he’s given up 12 homers after an 0-2 count. It’s like he’s allergic to easy outs.
12?
That’s what Leiter said in the scouting report. I haven’t looked it up, is it wrong?
5 this year, according to B-Ref.
12 since the beginning of last year though. Maybe that was it.
Ah, sorry. I just went back and listened to it. He does say 12 this year, but right before that he said the 58 homers over the last 2 years, so maybe the 12 was supposed to be the 2 years but he misspoke.
Better record determines it. If tied then it is head to head..
So, wow, Matt Harvey’s partially torn UCL seems to have come out of nowhere. That’s a real setback for their franchise.
Alright, the fact that I’ve been asked for this, here we go.
Jim Reynolds (HP) – One of “1999-25″ umpires, Reynolds has a pitcher’s zone, not ridiculously hated zone, has a tendency to call strikes in favor of the pitcher to right-handed pitchers. He has a tendency for bad calls, but not that common. He also will not likely eject you, as he’s gotten less and less ejection worthy lately.
Balkin’ Bob Davidson (1B) – Alright, if you know the name Bob Davidson, you know the word balk. He is the most balking umpire in the leagues and if you even make a minor misstep, you will be called out on it. He also doesn’t take crap from anyone, infamously last year getting into a nose-to-nose fight with now-fired Phillies manager Charlie Manuel that got him a suspension. Interestingly, he has one of the fairest strike zones in the game, but one of the shortest tempers, including infamously ejecting Youppi!, the Expos mascot.
Quinn Wolcott (2B) – Fourth straight? series I believe with a rookie umpire (Hamari, Little twice). Wolcott is brand new as of May 27. People see him as an umpire with a big future. Early reports of him show a fair strike zone, but until we see more of him, hard to judge.
James Hoye (3B) – Working his 11th season of baseball, Hoye is a patient umpire, especially with the fact that he’s only ejected <20 people since his debut. Hoye, anytime he gets a called seems to get stuck being compared to Jim "STRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIKKKKEEEE" Joyce. Hoye's strike zone is erratic, however, we will not be seeing it, since he is the 4th umpire in a 3 game series.
I’m not going to be 100% sure if Quinn Wolcott is just here for today, but this is John Hirshbeck’s crew. If John Hirshbeck, one of my favorite umpires, is here tomorrow, I will review him tomorrow. (I’ve had some of my most hated umps (Davidson, Meals, etc) in these, but not one of my Top 5.)
I keep misspelling John Hirschbeck’s name. My bad.
Nice!
So sick of crowds booing A-Rod.
Nice inning for Phil.
Just needs to navigate the top of the lineup 2 more times and hopefully chew through the AAA bottom of the lineup the Jays are rolling out these days.
Ichiro got embarrassed on that AB. That was ugly.
He certainly showed why he’s batting eighth tonight.
He’s been an embarrassment at the plate all year. Par for the course.
Good to see you’re back.
Im watching the Jays broadcast and they have that little K zone feature at all times on the screen. One thing I have noticed so far with Hughes is that he throws A BUNCH of FBs in the middle of the plate, like middle middle.
It’s no surprise he gets killed.
Well, this is a bad start to the inning.
Hughes starts are just so hard to watch.
Even in the games where he pitches well.
Yup, I’m even just tired of seeing his face and mannerisms on the mound.
Thanks for that bad baserunning.
Robbie limiting damage
OF COURSE he still gives up the run.
Can’t really get angry at that one. That pitch was in the dirt.
Unlucky there but he blew him away twice, should have done it again.
How does he hit that pitch?
Phil Hughes BaBIP: .315
It’s .429 so far in this game, it must be a fluke…
I’m not suggesting anything.
Jeter in midseason form…
Not exactly true because he was scorching in the second half last year. The DPs were a problem earlier.
It’s absurd that Philip is still starting. Put him in the bullpen already or get rid of his ass!!
Cito Culver, Cashman?
huh?
Who he thought would replace Jeter.
I would guess because he used a first rounder on him.
You know, it was 1-0 when I took off, and 1-1 when I arrived. Fine.
I check the log, and see it came on a two-out hit against someone hitting well under .200. No, that’s not fine at all.
Don’t forget that he also walked a guy who is 0-11 this season.
Hughes allowed Pillar to get on base at least two or three times last week, too.
What an irritating pitcher.
Yup, a hit (his first career hit after starting 0-17) and a walk.
If you aaw the hit, you would have been more angry.
Damn, almost got him.
Hughes is such trash, I’m happily counting down the starts until this gas can is gone.
Girardi better have a VERY short leash with Hughes.
please get rid of his ass
Really a shame that Phelps went down. I’d take him over Hughes any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
Make Joba a starter to replace Hughes. Only half serious but like really.
Did Cashman really think that CC after shoulder surgery, Kuroda who’s ancient, and Hughes and Nova who can be up and down were going to carry this team to success?
Forgot Pettite who’s ancient as well.
Yeah, Cashman is suuuuuuuuuch a dumbass…they only have what…the 6th best overall staff in Baseball. Our struggles this season have everything to do with how bad/depth lacking our pitching has been and nothing to do with the fact that the 3-4-5 was Cano-Wells-Overbay for most of the season.
And that could have been avoided with a deeper farm system which goes back to Cashman.
I look at Boston again, They trade Iglesias, they have Middlebrooks. They move Iglesias to third, they have Bogaerts.
A-Rod was replaced by Adams, Outfielders this season: Almonte and Mesa, Catcher: Romine (aka the guy who everybody has been begging to start regularly behind the plate), starters: Nova and Hughes, Bullpen: names too numerous to list. Come on Greg, stop.
Almonte I will give you, he has potential.
Romine was going to be up here anyway at some point, especially now that we know Cervelli was going to be suspended.
Nova and Hughes were already up here.
The others: No
So because Romine came up and he would have been up to replace a guy who got hurt/suspended (otherwise known as the reason for having depth) he doesn’t count? And how come WMB and his negative WAR counts but Adams doesn’t? I don’t know why I’m responding. You’re a troll and you’ve won by getting me to argue…but I just need to make the point that nobody can be this fucking thick.
Well, a couple of the guys you mention were already in the Majors, one was removed from the 40-man before being re-added, one is being begged to start because the other option is even worse, and one of the OFers is on the border of being removed from the 40-man (at least in many of our opinions).
Those aren’t exactly shining examples of depth or a great system.
Exactly.
Still trying to understand how a guy with a wRC+ of 80 and an fWAR of -.1 is a shining example of depth, or a guy with a total of 9 big league appearances.
Can they put together a good AB against this guy? He is crap this season.
That was an impressive inning from the 3-4-5 in the lineup.
8 pitches.
Thanks for the tease last couple of weeks guys.
Another game where the Yanks look like they’re sleep walking. I mean these at bats have been awful.
They fell back to sleep since the second game of the DH against the Blue Jays
Wait, you mean the stretch that they’ve gone 3-2 since?
I meant the offense not the whole team.
But I thought there was no way “CC after shoulder surgery, Kuroda who’s ancient, and Hughes and Nova who can be up and down” could carry the team to success???!?!?!?!
Well, CC and Kuroda did lose in that stretch, with Nova getting a ND.
Well that comes down to the definition of success.
Really? I thought they lost 2 of 3 to a very good team.
Dickey looks tough tonight. Can’t give up another run.
They just can’t hit that knuckle ball. Dickey may be 0-2 against them this year but he basically had them beat both times until two late HRs by Overbay and Soriano turned the tide. I just don’t know if Phil is going to keep it close enough this time.
He had them beat until… they beat him? Does their performance against him not count if it comes in the second half of the game? You must have loved CC’s performance the other day when he had the Rays beat, except for that minor detail of him blowing the lead later in the game.
What he tried to say but couldn’t is that it looks like only the Yankees can’t hit Dickey hard this season (even though they won 2 games)
I agree that’s not what he said.
And yeah, the Yankees didn’t hit Dickey as well as other teams have hit him, but they also haven’t hit the rest of the league as well as other teams.
Pillar cannot hit that FB. Blow it by him.
God damn, I can’t believe how shitty that Hughes is.
An A-Bomb!
Yeah, this is in the wrong spot.
ABOMB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A-ROD!!!
Another big HR from Alex!
A-Rod nukes Toronto.
POWER!
BOOOOO ICHIROOOOOO!!!!!!
I hate Brett Lawrie. I have no idea why, but I just despise him like he’s Pedroia.
I really hate him too. The way he acts and some of the stories and pictures from Milwaukee just really turned me off on him. I even hate him more than Bautista and Encarnacion.
(plus, he’s on my fantasy opponent’s team this week)
He’s just a hard nose player who plays with passion. Nothing wrong with that. Would love the Yanks to have him.
I don’t ‘hate’ Bautista and Encarnacion. They bother me because they’re talented (and probably PED’ing) and on a division rival. Lawrie just seems like…such a cock.
Agreed. I mean, maybe he’s a kind-hearted, down to earth fella, but more likely he’s a douchewrangler.
Eh, the way they act on the field after homers and stuff just bugs me. I shouldn’t take things like that so seriously, but I really prefer people to act like professionals who have done it before.
A BOMB!
He is so lucky that he fouled it off. If that had gone in play, I would have been pissed.
DROPPP ITTT!!!
pathetic AB by Cano
Darn.
Just walked Jeter,
let’s swing at three straight pitches.
A level talent, C level baseball IQ
Being aggressive there isn’t a bad idea.
Wow, I’m surprised Gardener just got his 500th hit tonight. It kind of shows you how amazing it is to hit 3,000. I mean, Gardener’s no rookie and a pretty decent hitter and he’ll probably never even sniff 1,500, maybe not even 1,000 if his injury bad luck continues.
Eh, not that surprising. He got 132, 13, 128 hits in 3 healthy full seasons. One season to injury. First season was only 40 games, second 108.
Eh, not that surprising. He got 132, 132, 128 hits in 3 healthy full seasons. One season to injury. First season was only 40 games, second 108.
I mean, it’s not surprising once you look at the stats, of course. It’s surprising from an intuitive/feel point of view. It seems like he’s been here for a long-ish time.
So today was a shitty work day. Could someone tell a fun story? Joke? Anything?
The Blue Jays are gonna win the World Series.
Funny enough?
So two men walk into a bar. A third ducked.
Ba-dum, tissssssssh.
Or, my personal favorite:
So a panda walks into a bar holding a badly punctuated wildlife manual. He orders a burger and eats it, takes out a gun and fires it into the air, then turns to walk out.
Just before he steps out of the bar the bartender yells, “Wait! What was that about?”
“See for yourself,” the panda replies. He tosses the badly punctuated wildlife manual into the bartender’s hands.
Sure enough, when the bartender opened the book to the entry for “panda”, this was written on the page:
PANDA – Eats, shoots, and leaves.
Horse walks into a bar.
Bartender says, “Hey Buddy, why the long face?”
I gotta say Soriano has greatly improved over the years as a defensive OFr.
Unlike most people, I didn’t expect Soriano to be terrible in the outfield, but I’m still pleasantly surprised by how well he’s played defensively.
Is anyone up in the Yankee pen?
his stuff is so mediocre. That breaking ball is very crappy.
There was another one.
Hughes itching to give the lead right back. He just can’t help himself!
Oh FF sake. Take him out already.
Get up somebody Joe. This game on the verge of slipping away.
Need a very, very short leash.
If only there was a way for the bullpen depth to have been a little bit higher quality…
It’s taking Hughes absolutely no time to give the Jays the lead back, isn’t it?
Amazing.
WTF was that Ichiro??????
Phuckin Hughes.
Hughes is the worst, it’s the fucking Blue Jays. Stop sucking so much.
When did the Yankees reacquire Bobby Abreau?
Game Over.
wow, FUCK ICHIRO
BOOOOO ICHIROOOOO!!!!
(for real this time)
God. FUCKING. DAMNIT. ICHIRO
Oh no, Ichiro
And it just gets better and better now.
That’s rare for Ichiro
He’s been pretty damn good in the field for sure.
Awful.
Bullpen now please.
Tough error there. But a bomb nonetheless. In YS, it’s a 5-2 game.
But at the end of the day it acts just as the sac fly, if the Blue Jays do not score again
Girardi should have had Preston in this ballgame. If another score runs it’s over.
You do know Preston isn’t here, right? And that that decision was not Girardi’s decision?
It’s not all his decision, but I guarantee he has some input on it.
No I know that. The question is who has the final say in the matter.
Gonna be 6-2 before this inning is over. At least. Way to go Phil.
dam hughes sucks
In fact I can’t even blame Ichiro. Hughes is just awful.
Doesn’t matter. Predictable Hughes. Third time through the order- he gets lit up.
Remember when Phil Hughes was an effective starter? Yeah, me neither.
Even when the Blue Jays absolutely suck, it’s still asking way too much for Phil Hughes to pitch a half-decent game in Toronto.
Amazing.
I sure hope they give Hughes a QO after the season and then figure out a way to re-sign him. Can’t afford to let this depth get away.
Well done Yankees farm people for failing with Hughes
Can’t blame it all on them. Hughes has never exactly shown himself to have much at all above the shoulders. He’s soft.
Fair enough. Another problem with selecting him in the first place.
what a joke. Why does he keep throwing that shitty ass slider? Why is he still on the game, or the team for that matter?
Who else have we got?
Because Mr. Cashman didn’t think of having proper pitching depth IN HIS SYSTEM.
They had pitching depth.
They’re all hurt.
Get more pitching depth. Scour the depths of the Earth.
The Mets just picked up Dice-K, Roy Halladay might be available, Dan Haren’s available.
Dice-K is awful.
Awful pitchers don’t count as depth.
The Yankees have plenty of guys in the system who could be awful.
In desperate times you have to use the spaghetti on the wall theory.
Not with pitchers you know are awful. You may as well just hope Hughes puts something together if you’re going to do that.
Any awful pitcher is better than the Yankees pitchers because Cashman hasn’t signed them.
/greg country.
Dice-K? Seriously???
Again, desperate times.
Deperate times don’t call for getting worse players.
Halladay and Haren have the track record that I would take them over Hughes right now.
Dice-K and Hughes are about even.
Getting him is way beyond desperation.
Warren, Marshall, Nuno, Phelps, Pineda (was supposed to be healthy by now)
Yeah, it’s totally Cashman’s lack of preperation that his 6th-10th starters have gotten injured. Everybody knows the Red Sox are 20 guys deep.
Then get more. As I said, scour the depths of the Earth.
That’s why you can never have enough starting pitching.
There is a reason that Dice-K is starting for the Mets (is he even still), there’s also a reason (multiple actually)Halladay would be available, there’s also reasons Haren isn’t starting literally anywhere in baseball. You act like there’s some fucking wunderkind in some independent league throwing 99 easy with a killer breaking ball. This isn’t the 19-fucking-40s. If there was such a guy he’d be on the internet in a week and in a professional league/ML organization under contract in weeks.
Well then what do you want them to do? Pray?
I don’t think that kind of player existed in the 1940′s, except for, ya know, black guys.
Huff is up two innings too late.
About three batters two late Joe
Phil Phailed.
Is Dan Haren still available?
Amazingly enough, I think Haren could be even worse than Hughes. Not sure I understand why people want Haren so much because he pitched ok against some of the worst offenses in the NL.
Desperate times, my friend
And this is why I thought they’d drop the opener. Oakland’s winning. They’ll need to take the next 2 or they’ll be eliminated.
Still got a chance. This isn’t the June offense, they can put up 5 or 6 runs still.
Game over. No way they score 3 off Dickey.
Just insert Warren as starter rest of the year. Hughes is done as a Yankee. Might as well see what Warren can do as a starter.
When the Yankees comeback and when you need to change your name to Frank Was Wrong.
You know if you believe that warming up hurts a pitcher, when should Girardi have had Huff warming there? Just curious.
Huff is completely expendable.
First sign of trouble.
That’s gotta be the last start Hughes makes, barring an injury to someone. I’d rather see Huff or Warren or Bootcheck take the starts. Something to make it seem like, you know, the teams trying to win. Hughes hasn’t had a really good start since July 2nd vs the Twins. His last couple of starts were decent but it always feels like he’s teetering on disaster.
Oh, come on. I’d take him over CC.
No way. CC has a long track record of success. I’d bet on him rebounding next season. They’re having equally bad seasons, at least CC has the past on his side
Hell no. CC at least has a track record. Hughes does not. He has only a good bullpen season and a great half season.
Thinly veiled sarcasm, my friends. At least, I might take Hughes over CC this year, but I know he’s the superior pitcher going forward.
Haha, missed the sarcasm. Sometimes its tough to tell who’s serious and who’s sarcastic around here.
Not even Hughes’ parents would take him over CC.
heh
so the Jays triple A lineup is hitting our crappy pitcher. Time for the so vaunted good lineup to hit the Jays crappy pitcher.
Yanks desperately need to answer back this inning with a couple of runs. Get it to where one swing can at least tie the game. Good start from Sori. Be nice if Granderson did something productive.
Way to go Grandy Man.
We need to score in this inning now, strike back quickly.
Sori is good.
A 2 pitch pitcher with 2 kind of meh pitches is not going to be a viable starter. If both pitches are on he’s capable of putting together a decent start, but his secondary pitch is one that is very susceptible to platoons.
The average lefty has an .850 OPS against him this year (That’s a top 25 hitter in all of baseball, and that’s the AVERAGE lefty against Phil). That is a result of his only non-fastball being a slider (and not a very good one). He never learned how to throw a change and without a plus slider he’s going to continue to be lit up by lefties. The curveball was at least platoon neutral (think Ivan Nova) so back when he threw it he could actually get lefties out; scrapping that pitch in favor of slider helped against righties but without a change he’s basically a bullpen arm with 2 pitches.
If he was coming up through the system with his current stuff and pitch mix right now and you took away the pedigree and the prospect aspect of it he would be considered a bullpen arm with the possibility of being a spot starter.
All of a sudden the strike zone has gotten bigger. Ump must have a date.
Hughes coming out last week and saying he would be open to pitching out of the bullpen next year says it all. This guys is not a competitor. A true competitor who has confidence in his abilities would never come out and say that.
Going to get nothing here. I’m sick.
It can’t be a balk if Bob Davidson didn’t even call it.
Can’t even get the ball in play for a run now.
ARod is going back into juiced pumpkin mode.
He just homered his last AB.
That’s why I said juiced pumpkin.
Not suggesting that he is still taking steroids, although I wouldn’t put it past him.
That’s the second straight game the Yankees have had that kind of wretched luck on a liner right back up the middle.
Yeah but the runner was at third with one out. Have to get him in.
To be fair, there were 2 strikes by the time Soriano was on 3rd. It’s harder to expect someone to get him in at that point when the overall league average of getting that guy in is around 50% with a fresh count.
I didn’t know that, Fair enough.
Missed opportunity there.
There’s no way that Phil Hughes gives this team the best chance to win every 5 days over other options right now. I was always a Hughes fan, and thought he could succeed eventually. But it’s obvious this is it. There’s about as much of a chance of him going 4 innings and giving up 5 or 6 runs as there is of him pitching a decent game.
He’s not even a 5 and fly anymore, he’s a 3 and fly.
Granted, he wasn’t sharp, & he didn’t really have any command, but I’ve thought his actual stuff has been better over his past 3 starts. Just couldn’t put the ball where he wanted to, and Ichiro’s dropped fly ball didn’t help any. I also add that while it’s not an excuse, he just faced this same lineup 5 days ago. Gotta figure he had a problem trying to figure his way out of the lineup 3 additional times after going through it 3 times last week. Regardless, he has to do better than this.
Well that was depressing.
Kind of sad to realize that our offense sucks…and it’s a big improvement over our old offense.
0-5 with RISP while the Jays are 4-7. One team can hit mediocre pitching.
There’s no chance Hughes loses his starting job just like there’s no chance they DFA Joba. Cashman does not want do admit failure, especially after he tried to throw ownership under the bus for the Soriano deal and it blew up in his face.
It’s the same old song with you. Cashman doesn’t take it personally. The vast majority of prospects fail. Even highly touted ones often don’t pan out.
If you think Cashman’s ego would have him hurt the team, you just don’t have a clue.
With Phelps and Nuno out, there is no one to replace Hughes with.
I think Sterling (yes, I’m stuck listening to him) wasn’t even watching when A-Rod struck out. He was babbling about how Granderson and Soriano have the green light to steal, and then you could hear the crowd cheering, then silence for a few seconds, then Sterling non-chalantly says, “Well A-Rod swung and missed, and he’s out.” And then continues to babble about Soriano and Granderson stealing. At least watch the game while you’re babbling.
Same round curve/slider in the same location to Reyes, Goins, & Lind, sandwiched around Ichiro dropping Encarnacion’s warning track fly ball & that’ll get you taken out of most ballgames.
Fuck you Phil Hughes! Make like a tree and leave.
I’d be shocked if they take Hughes out of the rotation, but if they did, who should replace him?
Warren?
Huff?
Marshall?
Joba?
Jose Quintana….Oh wait. Another Cashman blunder.
I’m guessing most teams wouldn’t add a pitcher of what was then Quintana’s track record and who hadn’t pitched above A ball to their 40-man roster. Frankly, I’m not sure any team would have.
Well the White Sox did and BOOM! A left handed quality starter.
And as a bonus, they didn’t even have to put him in the farm system that long. He was down there for 9 starts.
Oh please
If Huff looks good tonight, and with expanded rosters coming up I’d go with Huff, hope for 4-5 innings and back him up with guys like Hughes and Warren. And hope it might be too early in the game for the opposing team to PH for the righty bats.
They also have an offday coming up and could push his next start back 2 extra days (either way I think his next start would be with expanded rosters.
At this point, I’d be fine with any of them.
Would have to think that Joe would go with Huff just because of his #VeteranPresents
He’s 28 and at least has a track record of pitching in the big leagues. Not a good track record, but he’s been here before. Plus he’s looked decent in a really small sample size
I would go with Huff as well.
Huff threw 3 pitches in the strikezone and still managed to walk the hitter on 5 pitches. How’s that even possible?
Overbay hasn’t done shit in a long time.
Gallardo on waivers, any chance we got the pieces for him? He’s on a down year with a semi-expensive option for next year and a conditional team option for 2015.
ERA stinks but he can’t be worse than Hughes right?
I wouldn’t want to commit to him for next year.
As for pieces to get him, it might be a straight salary dump. I don’t think they’d have to give up much, if they take the contract.
Holy shit you suck Vernon Wells.
Wells PH for Gardner? What happened?
They brought in a lefty.
Are you fucking kidding me? He has to be hurt. If he’s not, Girardi needs to be fired ASAP. Taking Gardner out in favor of Wells is officially sabotaging the teams’ chances of winning
It doesn’t feel right but statistically it is the right move.
The hell is Wells swinging at?
Brilliant AB Wells, quality stuff.
Wells is absolutely worthless. And yet they’ll bring him back next year when he’s even worse.
SLEEP WALKING
RHP hit almost .300 against Loup, so seeing back to back strikes in almost effortless fashion is pretty annoying.
Brett hitting only .239 against lefties with a .305 OBP so the move makes sense statistically.
1-2 with a walk Loup but it is a SSS.
I’m in the middle on that one.
Makes binder sense but still. Not comfortable with it.
That’s why I said I was in the middle. Didn’t seem or feel right, but statistically it was sound.
Stepped away from the TV for a minute, but seriously Wells for Gardner???
Trying to weaken the offense and defense all at once?
Check the above stats. They brought in Loup.
Screw the stats, Wells should never pinch hit for Gardner.
That’s why I’m in the middle with that move. It doesn’t seem right but the data says it is.
I know they brought in Loup. It’s also Vernon freakin’ Wells.
Who is hitting .299 with a .348 OBP against lefties.
2-4 career against Loup, but again SSS.
OPS also in favor of Wells .783 for Wells, .708 for Gardner
Yep. And in July-Aug he’s at or close to .300 in 100 AB.
.300/.357/.400 in 100 AB.
Spot on.
Can Huff take Hughes’ place in the rotation please?
I like when Huff comes in and does that thing where he prevents the other team from running around the bases, unlike Hughes.
Hughes doesn’t always let them run around the bases.
Sometimes they jog.
Usually they jog.
Need to rally here. This is the inning!
I don’t know… I’m not feeling it tonight…
Gonna have to win the next two games.
I don’t know. I don’t think it really matters anymore with the A’s winning. If we lose tonight, I’m calling it.
LOL
I don’t see why this is funny. Whether or not I watch the team all the time or HOPE they win or not and whether I think the chance they have is realistic are far from the same thing. And if I change my mind on this point, then I change my mind. So what?
I’m flattered by your obsession with my comments, but it is a bit creepy.
Really funny.
another RISP that they will strand
Pretty damning effort tonight for a team desperately trying to make the postseason. I know Hughes stunk it up, but the offense looked absolutely listless.
Well that’s pretty much the game folks. Hughes with another fail today.
Beautifully done Alex. Vintage choke job.
Coming from the man who was knocked out by Chris fucking Weidman.
Ugly. Hughes sucked but the RISPfail is the killer tonight.
Hughes: 4.2IP 7H 5R 3ER 3BB 3K
Huff: 3.1IP 0H 0ER 1BB 5K
hmm, wonder which one should be starting on a team desperate to make the playoffs.
Hughes.
I know he’ll likely be lousy, but I’m all for Huff getting a chance to replace Hughes. Maybe Hughes can be of some usefulness in the bullpen.
Basically this. Something’s gotta be done for the sake of being done. Joe’s been great this year but he really sticks by his guys. Stewart, Wells, Hafner, Hughes, etc… In many of those cases there was nobody to take their spot, but you gotta get Hughes outta there.
Crazy thought: Phil Hughes is younger than David Huff. Remember when Hughes was a promising prospect? Me too.
The St. Louis Cardinals are absolutely unreal at hitting with RISP. I have never seen a team so ridiculously good at doing it, especially Allen Craig. .450 average with RISP/2 outs. Crazy.
They didn’t even put up a fight tonight against a terrible team, Jays pitchers breezed through this game. sickening.
Hughes was by no means good, but 2 of those runs were unearned. And another run came on a great pitch, that the batter manages to get a soft liner single on.
But again…. 2 runs. Offense fail.
Doesn’t matter. If this game had been in YS, Ichiro’s error wouldn’t have happened since that ball would have been in the seats for a 3 run HR. Hughes just isn’t any good. Bottom line.
you PH for and take Gardner out of the game but somehow Ichiro stays for the whole game. Girardi is a fucking dumbass.
Ichiro has 12,000 hits if you include back through tee ball as you child in Japan. You can’t just take a guy like that out of the line up.
Averaging 3 r/g over the last 7 games, 2.25 r/g over the past 4 games. That’s not going to get it done.
(especially on days when Hughes is pitching)
Well, that sucked.
In his 6th year, Huff has a career ERA of 5.31 and a WHIP of 1.55.
What makes you think he will do better then Phil?
Over a full season, it’s unlikely he’d do better, and he may very well be worse.
Over a month, when Huff has looked OK in his last couple of appearances, what’s the harm in taking a shot?
The added benefit would be Hughes could possibly be useful in the bullpen.
Not a good start to the series.
Gotta win the next 2
GOTTA!
If Yanks have any chance to make playoffs, they absolutely can’t keep throwing Hughes out there as a starter. Start Warren or Huff but they to try something. Hughes gives them hardly no chance to compete, much less win.
Hughes was not as bad as usual tonight. This one’s on the offense, which has been weak the third game of the last Jays series.
Don’t know which game you were watching. But if you believe so, so be it. Watch him this weekend in Baltimore if he starts. He’ll get gang raped.
Thanks for coming up big for us Hughesy…ya POS!!!!!
Tell us how you really feel.
Sucks for Mets. Harvey and Hefner both needing TJ surgery.
Alex Rodriguez striking out with a runner at 3rd and less than 2 outs shows you exactly how dumb this team is. Sure A Rod can hit his 30 homers, but stats don’t prove he has any baseball IQ. There goes that notion that strikeouts don’t matter especially when it cost the Yankees at least 1 run and possibly more if Granderson’s and A Rod’s at bat resulted in something other than a strikeout. Granderson and A Rod both left at bats on the table where fouling off the 2 strikeout pitches could have resulted in something other than an out being made in their respective at bats in that inning. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, not every bad pitch thrown right down the middle can be hit out for a homerun. This team is just dumb for not realizing this. Hitters may not like it, but sometimes you have to accept shortening up and be willing to take singles on pitch right down the middle. It’s okay to try to swing for a homerun once in a while, but with this team it’s like every single at bat. It’s no wonder why when they don’t hit the homerun they can’t score. Taking long swings every at bat isn’t going to make this offense a better hitting team with RISP. Hitters have to learn to balance taking shorter swings with longer ones.