Cano, Kuroda, and Granderson decline qualifying offers

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As expected, Robinson Cano, Hiroki Kuroda, and Curtis Granderson all declined the $14.1M qualifying offer prior to this afternoon’s deadline. All 13 players who received qualifying offers turned them down. The Yankees will receive a supplemental first round draft pick as compensation if they sign a Major League contract with one of the other 29 clubs. New York will not get a pick for Kuroda if he retires or signs with a team in Japan.

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  • Dalek Jeter

    Slightly confused about Granderson. I mean he has a pretty good resume preinjury, but there is a general consensus that wrist injuries sap power and that’s just about Granderson’s only above average tool.

    • Ethan

      What was his wrist injury? Didn’t he break his forearm and his pinky? Neither should really affect his power going forward.

    • Coolerking101

      You’re thinking about tears and other soft tissue issues. This was a break. Breaks generally heal as good as new.

      The man is gonna get paid this off season. Plenty of teams can use a 30+ HR center fielder and are willing to pay.

      • Revan

        A lot of people can sue the power and patience combination of Nick Swisher too and he got a team friendly deal…

        The only ones who get paid are superstars. If Grandy makes a 12-13 AAV someone’s being generous.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Years versus salary. He can get multiple years at close to that from many teams, including the Yankees.

      I thought his accepting was a 50/50 proposition, at best.

      LET THE GAMES BEGIN!

    • jjyank

      Well, it wasn’t the wrist that was injured. And even still, I think the further away he is from said injuries, the more the power will return.

      That said, I thought he would accept or negotiate a one year deal to rebuild his value. He’s at that age where he’s looking at one more big deal. I would think that he would prefer to try and have a healthy, homer happy year and sign a 3-4 year deal for good money. We’ll see though.

  • mustang

    Happy that Granderson decline. Take the pick and the money and just go in another direction.

  • soxhata

    Kinda disappointed that my Kuroda didn’t take the generous one year offer.I just can’t see going two years with him.

    • Ethan

      He was making 15 million last year. Why would he take a pay cut after last year? If he comes back to the yankees it will likely be a 1 year $16 or 17 million deal.

    • jjyank

      I don’t think Kuroda wants two years anyway. He probably declined because he either doesn’t want a pay cut, or he doesn’t want to make up his mind between NYY and Japan quite yet.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting

        No trade clause could be a factor as well.
        I believe he’s had some form of NTC every year he’s played in MLB. He wouldn’t have that if he took the QO.

        • jjyank

          Good point. I am sure that Kuroda is the kind of guy and at the point in his career where he doesn’t want to be uprooted mid-season. I’m sure that’s a factor as well. Remember when he didn’t waive his NTC to come to the Yankees in 2011 because he didn’t want to abandon the team he started with?

        • Ed

          Last year after he resigned, he actually said that he didn’t consider the QO because he wanted a NTC.

  • CashmanNinja

    Kuroda wouldn’t take a pay cut after last year, nor could you blame him. I liked him a lot, but you can’t go multiple years on a guy as old as him. He clearly faded down the stretch in the worst way. He’s a 200 inning guy and even that took work to get to. More like 170 at this point and that really doesn’t cut it (granted the 170 innings are stellar). The point is…he’s older and stamina is an issue and it will be worse next year and worse the year after that. So he either goes back to Japan, returns to the Dodgers, or retires. That’s about it at this point. I loved him, but if he wants to sign with the Dodgers I’d be all for it.

    And Granderson was a lock to decline. What good would there be if he accepted? He’s already on the wrong side of 30 and if he didn’t hit at least 30-40 HR then there’s no way he’d get a big pay day the following year because he’d be a year older and his only real selling point at this point is power. Sure he can play center field, but I really think he’s best suited for a corner OF spot now. He’ll either hit a home run or strike out. There really isn’t any in between anymore.

    • jjyank

      Well 30-40 home run power is extremely rare. It’s disingenuous to discount that skill. What good would there be if he accepted? Well for one, the Yankees get a borderline elite, if not elite, power hitting outfielder. That’s the good in that situation. Yankee fans will miss him if he leaves, especially if they don’t sign someone like Beltran or Choo to replace him. Oh, and Granderson wouldn’t cost a draft pick to bring back! More good.

      I’m not directing this next statement at you, per se, but I feel like too many fans have a one season attention span.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting

        Technically, Granderson would cost a draft pick to bring back.

        • jjyank

          Well yes, I suppose. But they’d be forfeiting a potential supplemental rounder, not giving up the 18 pick. I know draft picks are a crap shoot, but I’d prefer the higher pick.

          • Need Pitching & Hitting

            Unless they signed 2 or more QO players from another team, in which case the pick lost for retaining Granderson wouldn’t be different than the pick lost for signing another QO player.

  • Eselquetodolosabe

    Granderson, BA 220, 15 ribbies – turns down 14.1mm, wow ! The player knows that he’ll get more years and similar AAV. And I don’t know about the assumption that he’ll automatically go back to pre-injury numbers. Granderson’s a year older, coming off of injury, historically low BA, high strike-out player, and is still worth at least 14.1mm ? Wow !

  • Mick taylor

    Signing kuroda is huge mistake. He is old, and the best you can hope for is last year’s performance. His collapse cost yanks playoffs. Sign tanaka . If you can get garza or jiminezfor what you would pay kuroda, I would sign one of them. Maybe get scwerzer and markasis after2014 .

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      Kuroda was better than Garza this year.
      If Kuroda cost them the playoffs, I’d hate to see what Garza would have done.
      They wouldn’t have been in contention as long as they were without Kuroda.

  • 2014LetsGet It

    Gardner CF
    Jeter DH
    Cano 2B
    Beltran RF
    Soriano LF
    Tiexiera 1B
    Mark Reynolds 3B
    CerMurphMine C
    Nunez/Ryan SS

    CC
    Tanaka
    FA pitcher
    Nova
    Pineda/Phelps

  • 2014LetsGet It

    Not a surprise that they declined.

    Granderson knows he can get 2 years from someone. The injuries were fluky, and guys who can hit HR’s at his rate are rare.

    Kuroda shouldn’t take a pay cut without testing the market first. Even with the fade down the stretch, he was still great. I think he thinks the Dodgers are willing to re-sign him.

    • Bo Knows

      Dodgers wouldn’t be that shocking at all, Kuroda still lives in LA with his Wife and kids has a ton of history with them naturally.

  • Kevin S

    Good news for Yanks–didn’t want to go forward with Granderson–as stated too much money for one tool above average–if Granderson only hits 20 HR this year his value won’t be met

  • Newman

    Weird all the anti-Grandy stuff in this thread. The guy was injured by being hit. He’ll come back and whack a bunch of HRs for a new team and they’ll be a lot of word eating and moaning.

  • qwerty

    With Granderson off the table it’s almost imperative that the yankees give Cano his 300 million dollars now. I know the way they think after all these years.