Precautionary MRI on Jacoby Ellsbury’s calf comes back negative

2014 Season Preview: Back To Offensive Basics
Spring Training Game Thread: Star and Scrubs

The Yankees sent Jacoby Ellsbury for a precautionary MRI on his tight calf after he was scratched from his scheduled batting practice session earlier today, Joe Girardi told reporters. The tests came back negative and the team is hopeful he’ll play this weekend. Ellsbury has continued to say the calf is a non-issue and he could play if needed, but it’s clearly more serious that he’s letting on. He’s got 12 days to heal up before the start of the season.

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2014 Season Preview: Back To Offensive Basics
Spring Training Game Thread: Star and Scrubs
  • John Duci

    Hope he’s ok.. Just wanted to throw this out there I’m going to be really happy when Cano gets busted for PEDs

    • jjyank

      Not only off-topic, but also pretty vindictive and currently pretty baseless.

      You stay classy, John Duci.

      • OB/GYN Kenobi

        Love the qualifier about it only being baseless currently :)

    • Poconos Adam

      Ok….and why do you think he’s a PED guy?

      I’d be happy if David Ortiz got busted….since he’s on the list….at least that indicates some element of use.

      • John duci

        The emails between a rod and Levine that’s what makes me think it. It’s pretty obvious

      • http://b-rar.tumblr.com b-rar

        As soon as he left the Yankees he grew an exact copy of Ortiz’s beard.

        QED.

    • FIPster Doofus

      Oh, come on. Put yourself in Cano’s shoes and try to turn down Seattle’s offer. There’s no reason to be bitter toward him for leaving.

      • EddieP

        As a 50+ year Yankee fan I would much rather play for the Yanks for $175 million than Seattle for ANY amount of money. It’s not like Cano was going to have to live paycheck to paycheck and go on food stamps with the $175 million the Yanks offered. He said the Yankees “disrespected” him with that $175 million-dollar offer. Really, Robbie? Let me ask you this … were YOU disrespecting the game when you continually dogged it to first base on a grounder? Or when you stood in the batters box admiring your long shot you thought was gone but stayed in the park and your lack of hustle resulted in only a single? You had every right to sign elsewhere but saying the $175 million dollar offer was disrespectul is ridiculous. Enjoy Seattle and get used to watching the playoffs on tv each year.

        • Dalek Jeter

          That’s not “putting yourself in Robinson Cano’s shoes.” Make yourself a 31 year old who didn’t grow up a Yankee fan, considered far and away the best at your position and one of the top 5 or so players in the game. That’s putting yourself in his shoes. I’m upset that Cano’s not a Yankee anymore, and part of it is his fault, but most of it is understanding it’s just a business.

          • willie w

            So Cano and others are mercenaries ?

            killers available to the highest bidder

            • Dalek Jeter

              Absolutely. And you shouldn’t be upset about that, some of the best players the Yankees have had in recent years are mercenaries. It is the world of Free Agency and I wouldn’t have it any other way.

              • Dalek Jeter

                were mercenaries**

              • jjyank

                Yup. Clemens, Mussina, Giambi, A-Rod (originally a trade, but they did re-sign him), Reggie Jackson to go back a bit, etc.

                It’s pretty rare these days for a guy to spend his entire career with one team. I don’t get why being a “mercenary” has a negative connotation in sports.

            • Cheval Anonyme

              That’s the kind of comment that you see on ESPN. Seriously– it’s a job. Most people would leave their current employer for a huge raise, unless they were related to the business owner.

        • handtius

          Exactly…as a FAN. He’s not a fan. He’s a ballplayer and it’s his job. Would you really turn down a raise from another company if it was that big of a difference and you liked where you work? Doubtful. I wouldn’t. I actually had the choice a few years back and I took the bigger pay check and left my friend’s company, that I really enjoyed working for. The income difference wasn’t life changing either, but it definitely made me more comfortable.

          That money he’s getting, isn’t just about him. It sets up his family for generations.

          And all that admiring all those fly balls led to move that 40 doubles in all but two of his years in pinstripes. Didn’t hurt him much.

          • willie w

            You would have to pay me 1/2 million a year to work in Detroit or Los Angeles

            that’s BS about going for the highest money

            • handtius

              But you would move for 1/2 million? Yeah, Cano only took an extra $65,000,000 to be persuaded away from the Yankees.

              And no, it’s not BS. It’s the way it goes. The players, they’re not fans, they’re players and are in a business.

            • jjyank

              An awful lot of people love LA, ya know. And going for the most money is hardly bullshit. It’s something most people do.

              • handtius

                Yep. I’d move to LA if the right offer came along. I don’t like it as much as NYC, but I could do it for the right paycheck.

              • http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=179&iso=20140401T19&year=2014&month=4&day=1&hour=19&min=0&sec=0&msg=Opening%20Day! Get Phelps Up

                LA is a great city.

                • jjyank

                  I’ve only been there once, and only for a couple of days, but I enjoyed it quite a bit.

                • qwerty

                  LA is one of the biggest shitholes in the united states.

                  • jjyank

                    I could say the same about your comments.

          • jjyank

            Ding ding ding.

            Robbie isn’t some local NYC kid that grew up dreaming of being a Yankee. He got offered a ton more money to play elsewhere, and he took it. Most people would. Most of those that claim otherwise are either lying, or have simply no idea how to make a decision with that much money at stake. Not to mention there had to have been some pressure from his agents. I’m sure they heavily lobbied for him to, you know, NOT leave $65 million on the table.

            Quite frankly, who gives a fuck if some old timer Yankee fan would take the Yankees deal? Of course he would, in his little mind-vacuum. But he didn’t sit at the table and stare at $240 million offer either. It’s a silly think to think about. We’d all love $175 million to play for the Yankees, but these guys aren’t fans for the most part. It’s their job.

            Regarding the hustle thing…I am so, so tired of that argument. Was it disrespectful to the game if his not going 100% on every routine ground out allowed him to be insanely durable and play 159+ games every single year? How many of those grounders result in reaching first base over the course of a season if he sprints every time? 2, 3? What if he pulls a hammy doing that and goes on the DL for 15 games? Is that worth the satisfaction of you singing his praises on your couch for Cano being a “gamer”?

            /end rant

            • handtius

              Thank you. some logical thought.

            • Darren

              Kind of a dick thing to say that “Who cares what an old timer Yankee fan feels, etc. etc”

              I care more about someone that watched Micky, Bobby, Elston, Reggie and Donnie play than I do some snot nose kid who wouldn’t know Catfish Hunter if he sat naked on a birthday cake.

              You’re defending Robbie as if he gives one tin shit how you feel or what you think.

              And if you weren’t viscerally appalled watching Robbie jog to first, there’s something wrong with you.

              • jjyank

                “Kind of a dick thing to say that “Who cares what an old timer Yankee fan feels, etc. etc””

                No, it’s not. It’s a fact. And not one that’s reserved for older fans either. We all have our opinions, but they’re ultimately pretty meaningless.

                “I care more about someone that watched Micky, Bobby, Elston, Reggie and Donnie play than I do some snot nose kid who wouldn’t know Catfish Hunter if he sat naked on a birthday cake.”

                Now I think THAT’S a dick thing to say. It’s sure as shit not my fault that I’m only 25 and wasn’t around to see Mantle play. And it sure as shit doesn’t diminish my position as a fan. It just is what it is.

                “You’re defending Robbie as if he gives one tin shit how you feel or what you think.”

                Not at all. I’m 100% certain he doesn’t give a single fuck what I think.

                “And if you weren’t viscerally appalled watching Robbie jog to first, there’s something wrong with you.”

                That’s your opinion. I, personally, would be more “viscerally appalled” (strong language for not running out some freaking grounders, don’t ya think) had Robbie developed recurring hamstring problems in an attempt to record 2 or 3 infield hits per year.

                • Darren

                  Listen, it’s great to hear opinions of 25 year olds as much as it is of 75 year olds. And if our opinions didn’t matter to each other (to at least some degree), we wouldn’t be here. So to say that it’s it a fact that no one cares what somebody thinks is ridiculous. it all matters.

                  Anyway, it’s all good (unless it’s not?)

                  I thought you would get a chuckle out of the Catfish Hunter reference!

                  • jjyank

                    I don’t have a bone to pick with you, Darren. So yes, it’s all good. There are a lot of people on this site that, every once in awhile, will insinuate that older fans are somehow better. And I dislike when a commenter throws out “as a fan of 50+ years” as if it makes his/her opinion more valid. It doesn’t. My grandmother is turning 93 next month. She’s been a Yankee fan forever, and I respect her opinions, but the fact that she’s old doesn’t mean her opinions are better than mine. In fact, I’m significantly more informed than she is.

                    I did not get a kick out of that reference. It seemed demeaning.

                    • Poconos Adam

                      I tend to pay attention to posts/opinions that seem well-thought out and not emotional firing from the hip….so I like your post jjyank.

                      Oh Darren — I liked the Catfish on the cake reference….though I wouldn’t eat a piece of that cake with your mouth and jjyank chewing.

                    • Darren

                      Well, I don’t think being a fan of 50+ years makes you a better fan, but I don’t think being more informed makes you a better fan either. Obviously, it makes you more knowledgeable, but it doesn’t mean you like the Yankees any more than your grandma.

                      Also, the Catfish Hunter reference was actually my bad. I meant Sparky Lyle, who actually used to do that. I hope you don’t think I was making fun of Catfish? Otherwise, I’m not sure what would be demeaning about the reference.

              • Cheval Anonyme

                Hey, I’ve been a Yankee fan since 1960. I thought the comment that “I would much rather play for the Yanks for $175 million than Seattle for ANY amount of money” was puerile.

          • KeithK

            If I played for the most famous franchise in sports, the organization that I came up with, had a home ballpark that fit my left handed swing, in a city that I (apparently) loved living in, with the opportunity to be the centerpiece star of the team, I wouldn’t have made it to free agency. I would have worked out a deal for an extension and spent my career in NY.

            It’s possible that Robbie wasn’t really happy with the Yankee organization or felt like he would never emerge from the shadow of his more famous teammates. Who knows?

            I don’t wish the man any ill (other than maybe suffering on some bad Mariners teams). But I’m not left with much in the way of fond feelings for him going forward.

            • jjyank

              Sure. That’s your opinion, and I share that opinion. But I’m a Yankee fan, and so are you. We’re both biased. $65 mil is a lot of money. The Mariners over paid by a ton. I think we need to stop blaming Robbie and blame the Mariners. If Robbie spurned us for like, $5-$10 mil, I can see the point. But it was too much money to turn down.

            • Cheval Anonyme

              For the most part, that’s on the Yankees. The time to work out a long term deal with a young superstar is 2-3 years before he hits free agency. Not one month before, and not even one year before. The club shows their confidence in the player by accepting more risk, in return for a commensurate discount. The Yankees chose not to do that, which is perfectly okay; but the inevitable result is that the player’s contract demands, when he hits free agency, are going to go way up due to the increased competition in the marketplace.

          • OB/GYN Kenobi

            I turned down a >2X pay offer (also including a two year guarantee) to leave my job for a job at another company.

            But that was because I didn’t want to do that job forever, and was better positioned to transition to another job by staying at the current company where I’d been for years and built up good will and relationships.

            • OB/GYN Kenobi

              Oh. And team friendly extensions and the like are definitely something we see in the sport. Just not for the Yankees it seems. And so for that I think it’s valid to have bad feelings about Robbie spurning $175mm/7. And spurn it he did, calling it disrespectful. Nonsense.

              (And for the record, his family would’ve been effectively no less better set up “forever” under 175/7 than they will be under 240/10. Let’s not forget too that he make a shit ton of money here before he left, even if he was a relative bargain for us).

        • Denver – Ralph

          So was Kevin Long disrespectful when he basically called him a dog after he left for totally acceptable reasons? (a TON more money)

          Who needs enemy’s when you have friends like that? Stab you in the back after you leave. If you are going to say it then say it while he’s still there.

          • willie w

            what you said is absurd

            • Dalek Jeter

              How is what he said absurd? I have no problems with fans or writers calling out Robbie for not hustling (I disagree with it being a big deal, but everybody is allowed to have an opinion). However, this is a coach that has worked with Robbie, and has coached him. If you don’t have the balls to call him out to his face or while he’s with the same team as you, you have no business doing it after he’s moved across the country.

              • jjyank

                Agreed. I hate that “I’m upset that you left, so I’m gonna say some shit about you now” approach.

                Just let it be.

              • Darren

                Except Kevin Long DID call Robbie out when he was on the team.

                • Dalek Jeter

                  Still, for somebody who seems to like things old school Darren, I’d think you’d be against airing dirty laundry to the media. That’s about as low as you can go.

                  • Darren

                    I really, sincerely, didn’t look at it as airing dirty laundry, or KLong calling Robbie out. It really, truly sounded to me like Long was very respectful of how hard Robbie worked at so much of his game, and felt bad that Robbie would have the reputation of a dog based on one aspect of his otherwise superior game.

                    And when you read the whole quotes, it totally came off like a big brother who was like, “Robbie man, you do everything great, just run to first so people can’t call you a dog! If you don’t run, there’s basically nothing I can say to defend you, so please run!”

                    After 5 years of everyone bithcing about it, I think it was reasonable to defend HIMSELF and explain that’s it not like nobody tried to change it.

                    Anyway…..can’t wait for that first Mariners/Yankees game!

                    • OB/GYN Kenobi

                      Exactly. People who get on Long for this always sound like they didn’t actually read the entirety of the thing.

  • I’m One

    With 12 days to go, he’s still got a bit of time to recover and ensure he’s ready for the beginning of the season. A few more days of rest now should be a good thing.

  • Daen

    Soriano, Gardener and Beltran isn’t a bad opening day outfield, left to right. Ichiro on the bench. Who’s our DH though? Nunez? Jeter with Nunez at SS, if Ryan is still out?

    • jjyank

      All indications seem to point to Ells being just fine by opening day.

      • Daen

        Wait, what? How? I mean, don’t you have to say there’s at least a 25% chance he’s NOT ready?

        He hasn’t played in days.
        They were concerned enough to get him an MRI.
        He has a horrible injury history.
        Even Mike mentioned the length of time to go before the season starts.

        In fact the only indications that he’ll be ready are that the MRI didn’t reveal anything, Ellsbury “said” he could play, and the Yankees are hopeful he’ll be ready by this weekend.

        I hope so, but I think there’s a bunch of reasons to think he might not be.

        • Havok9120

          You’re using the fact that the richest team in baseball took the precaution of an MRI (which came back clean) on their giant new investment as evidence that he’s worse than he and the team are letting on?

        • jjyank

          Whoa there guy.

          Everything we’ve heard is that he’d be playing if this was the regular season, from both him AND the team. They just dropped an insane amount of money on the guy, there was no reason to not get him an MRI just to be sure. And it came back clean.

          Is your point that he won’t have enough time to get into a groove and be effective? If so, I’d argue that even that version of Ellsbury is better than Jeter at DH and Nunez at SS, or some such arrangement. And if your point is that the calf will keep him off of the opening day roster, well, you’re just pulling that one out of thin air.

          There’s a lot more evidence that he’ll be in CF on opening day than there is to the contrary.

          • Darren

            Listen, I’m hoping that he plays Saturday, feels great and all is right with the world. And I think there’s a very good chance that ahppens.

            Buuuut, I think right now it’s reasonable to be in a “what and see” mode, at least til he’s back on the field.

            At what point would you be concerned? If he’s still out of the lineup on Sat? Sun? Next Thursday?

            • jjyank

              I have no problem with being too cautious during spring training. If he’s not playing in a few days, I’ll be mildly concerned. But all we have to go on is really two simple facts:

              1. Both Ellsbury himself and the team has said it’s not serious and he’d play if he really had to.

              2. The precautionary MRI came back clean.

              So why get your panties in a bunch at this point?

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          His “horrible injury history” consists largely of flukes.

          • jjyank

            Yup, and not calf problems.

            • Darren

              Maybe, maybe not. He could be fragile and/or accident prone, and by now, gunshy.

              • jjyank

                Gunshy? How so?

                And it’s not “maybe, maybe not”. His major injuries have not been calf related, but of the fluke variety. That’s a fact. Maybe he’s more fragile, but that’s pure speculation.

              • Havok9120

                Gunshy? As in he’ll play less well because he’s afraid of reinjury?

                You’re just pulling that completely out of nowhere.

                • Darren

                  As in, he might give it a lot of extra time and be tentative because he doesn’t want to do even worse damage. That is totally reasonable and expected/ So am injury that might normally have put him out until Monday may now keep him out until Wednesday. Ya know, the old couple extra days to be sure. You think that’s so crazy??

                  • jjyank

                    It’s spring training. Who cares if they’re being a bit more cautious? Better do it now than risk something serious. Doesn’t mean he’s “gunshy”.

                    • Darren

                      I don’t think it’s a bad idea, all I’m saying is it wouldn’t be like, shocking, if he wasn’t ready for Opening Day.

    • Havok9120

      For the record, I reject your premise.

      For the sake of discussion, I think at that point Ichiro probably plays the field and Soriano still DHs. I don’t see them not having Jeter at SS on Opening Day.

      • jjyank

        Agreed on Jeter. Like CC getting the start, they’re going to have Jeter open the season on the field, not DHing.

  • TWTR

    Play the long game with Ells.

  • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

    Funny. When I read this article, all I could read was “I TOLD YOU SO! I TOLD YOU SO! I TOLD YOU SO!!!!”

    • TWTR

      You’ve probably read this before, but Ellsbury’s history is simultaneously unfortunate and not particularly worrisome.
      […]

      I wouldn’t go so far as to say it’s unconcerning. We don’t know how Ellsbury’s playing time compares to the hypothetical average player who’s had the same stuff happen to him. Maybe Ellsbury’s body is slightly more fragile. Maybe the average player doesn’t get busted ribs. Maybe the average player doesn’t get a busted shoulder. Maybe the average player doesn’t get a busted foot. We can’t know the reality, and the Yankees probably can’t either, no matter how many tests they might perform. But when we look at these incidents, we’re left thinking, “Lots of people probably would’ve been hurt here.” Ellsbury deserves a pass, because his injury history appears more like bad luck than bad something else.

      Fangraphs

      • Havok9120

        I think he was saying that Mike was saying “I told you so.”

        I disagree, but whatever.

  • Farewell Mo

    Talk about things that could fuck up this season, lingering leg injuries to Ellsbury would be pretty high up on the list.

    Let’s hope this isn’t gonna be recurrent.

    • Wheels

      Good thing we still have Gardy.

  • fred robbins

    the Ellsbury signing will prove to be another bust while the Boston GM found a way to get Grady Seizmore for a few bucks and he looks like the Grady of old… 20-30 dingers and hitting 290-300 and making great plays in center. 153 million for a broken down player who has to be nursed along. How is this going to be over 7 years? Maybe the worst deal of all of Cashman’s?