Jun
29

Pineda feels “very good” after beginning new throwing program

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As planned, Michael Pineda started a new throwing program yesterday. He was scheduled to start throwing last weekend, but it was pushed back after a precautionary MRI showed a lingering “trace” of inflammation. Pineda told Marly Rivera he felt “very good” after throwing while Joe Girardi told Chad Jennings the throwing session was “probably 25 throws at 60 feet, so probably not a lot to get excited about.”

Pineda, 25, has been out with a muscle problem in his back/shoulder since late-April. He made it as far as pitching in Extended Spring Training games a few weeks ago before suffering a setback. Given his history and the nature of the injury, I think the Yankees have to forget about Pineda and move forward under the assumption that he isn’t coming back. If he does, great. But there’s no way they can count on him to bolster the rotation in the second half.

Categories : Asides, Injuries
  • Jorge Steinbrenner

    I don’t think that’s the case at all. I think folks have been clear as to the nature and severity of the injury. There was a setback. He reports feeling better. They can reasonably assume they’ll see him again this year. Should there be a contingency plan, or three? Of course. We’re dying to order this guy a tombstone sometimes.

    Just rub some pine tar on it.

    • I’m One

      Clearly you’re wrong. Just look at the comments below. Injured players never come back after a setback, didn’t you know that? If Cashman doesn’t cut ties with a cost controlled 25 year old starting pitcher that, when healthy, showed signs of being very effective, he clearly failed. There’s no way the Yankees should take a chance that they might even get a few months of production from him, especially when they need starting pitchers. Just cut bait.

      /sarcasm.

      • Deep Thoughts

        The important thing is to make definitive pronouncements as early as possible in the process. Especially if you are an anonymous Internet clairvoyant scout or kinesiologist.

        • Cool Lester Smooth

          That goes without saying.

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          There is nothing more important than being first and right on the Internet. Recent studies have correlated it with your first-born getting a free ride at an Ivy League school.

      • Cool Lester Smooth

        I mean, he’s gonna cost $500,000 next year! The Yanks can’t afford that!

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          The lesson it sends to the youth! God forbid Luis Severino is watching!

  • Promandel

    Big Mike is turning into the Big Remake of Groundhogs Day.

  • qwerty

    I’m so tired hearing about all of Pineda’s injuries and rehab. Stick a fork in him and send him on his way.

    • trr

      IMO, way too soon for that.

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        It boggles my mind that some people seriously think they should cut bait. Hell, it boggles my mind that there are actual reports of then considering it.

        • jjyank

          Such a statement shouldn’t even require the “IMO” qualifier. It’s flat out stupid to get bait on Pineda. He’s cheap, he’s shown some reason to hope that he can be effective when healthy, and he’s under team control for a few more years. If he was an expensive veteran or something, sure, I can see the logic. But he’s not, and statements calling for his release are ignorant at best and insane at worst.

          My bet is that these same idiots would call for Cashman’s head on a platter if he cut Pineda and he goes on to sign with Team X and pitches a few nice seasons.

        • fred robbins

          Why would you be surprised? This is the same organization that just gave Beltran 3 years @15 million and he is a good bet not to hit his weight…unless he goes on a crash diet.

          It shouldn’t matter if it takes Pineda another year or year and half if he can fully recover and pitch the way he did to start the year. Sure beats waiting for CC to learn how to pitch without his fastball.

    • Deep Thoughts

      Screw sending him on his way. I say murder the bastard and crap on the inflamed muscle fibers of his corpse.

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        And send that crap to Seattle for Nick Franklin before Jack Z gets fired.

    • Cheval Anonyme

      All these injuries are like, you know, so booorrrringggg! Gag me.

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        The Yanks should know that players get injured and only sign people impervious to injury. It’s poor player development.

        The Cardinals can’t even pass through airport security anymore without needing the wand.

    • jjyank

      Can we do that to you instead?

  • Pinedamaybegreata(formerlyMonterowasdinero)

    Give him all the rest he needs. If he can’t pitch this year cut ties with him. Of course he will be picked up by another team then and have success.

    What about putting Betances in the rotation next year and have Pineda go to the pen? Dellin gives us five and Pineda gives us two innings to follow. A beastly combo….

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      That’s, like, the opposite of what should occur.

      • Cool Lester Smooth

        Hahaha. This.

        • jjyank

          Seriously. Betances was pretty close to not even making the MLB, and he’s finally found success in the bullpen. Why fuck with that?

          Guys, I’m sober right now. Can you please share what some of you on this thread are smoking?

    • Cheval Anonyme

      A sign of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome. Like, for instance, using Betances as a starter.

      • fred robbins

        Does trading for used up 38 year old outfielders count in your version of insanity?

        • Old Man Time

          fred robbins trying to knock on someone else’s sanity?

    • jjyank

      “Of course he will be picked up by another team then and have success.”

      Then why the fuck do you want to cut him if you think that will happen after? What is wrong with you people?

  • Nathan

    And to think the Yankees used their silver bullet trade chip on him and there is a good possibility that Pineda doesn’t give them much more help.

    • jjyank

      This is true, but I liked the trade at the time.

    • http://www.staggeringbeauty.com/ ALZ

      Trade is far from decided. They still have him for another 3 years, and with the way he looked this year I have hope. People are willing to give up way more talent than Montero in order to get Price or Shark for 1.5 years, not to mention they won’t be cheap next year either. If Pineda can be anywhere near what he showed this year it’s not a done deal.

  • JonS

    “If he does, great. But there’s no way they can count on him to bolster the rotation in the second half.”

    I didn’t realize this post was about Sabathia…

  • Paisa

    Obviously they shouldn’t just cut bait with the guy – whether it’s now or after the season – because he is just too important and too talented. Mike is right though in saying that they have to operate under the assumption that he won’t be back this year. The division is just too close and there is too much riding on this season to take a risk like that.

    Each and every night that I look at the dotf posts brings me closer to the conclusion that we can sell on some of the guys down there. With all the talent in the gcl combined with the international class that is going to infuse the system, they should be able to deal even the top of the line prospects like Judge and Severino without entirely demolishing the future of the club.

    • Cheval Anonyme

      Judge and Severino are in class A. They are going to go for 20 cents on the dollar until they prove themselves at a higher level. And that is how you get a bankrupt farm system.

      Most of the guys who look great in the GCL league will suck by the time they hit AA– if they get so far.

    • jjyank

      “With all the talent in the gcl”

      Hold up. I actually agree with your premise, trade the unproven commodities for the (right) MLB proven option. But what is going on in the GCL has literally zero influence on a decision that I make for the MLB club.

  • Deep Thoughts

    If the front office isn’t both planning for Tanaka and Pineda to be pitching #1 and #2 in October, and tweaking the current roster around that expectation, I’d be surprised and disappointed.

  • RetroRob

    I have Tanaka penciled in for 20 wins in August and September.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      How many in October?

      • jjyank

        11.

      • RetroRob

        I messed up my own joke. I meant to write I have *Pineda* penciled in for 20 wins in August and September.

        As for October, jj is close. However many wins the Yankees need, Tanaka will get them all.

  • PunkPitch

    The source of cynicism is rooted in the total lack of objectivity from otherwise very intelligent people. It seeps into every opinionated justification of why everyone else is wrong, and they are right. Big Mike never had a chance to EARN the title. We wait with baited breath, for the rally monkey to shed light on the next dumb move the Yankee front office conjures up.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      Are we supposed to hand you a wipe after that, or did you clean the jizz off your keyboard yourself?

      • jjyank

        They have people for that. I’m pretty sure.

      • Deep Thoughts
        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          Submitted for meme approval.

      • PunkPitch

        There is nothing quite like a backhanded compliment to sniff out an immature man-child.

  • Yankee$

    Refsnyder 2 For 2, and 2 BB…Dude. Still. Raking. OPS 1.145

  • Algernon blackqood

    Dump him as soon as he can spend 5 minutes healthy and someone is stupid enough to give up anything decent

  • Pinedamaybegreata(formerlyMonterowasdinero)

    I seriously think Betances should be given a look next year as a starter if Pineda keeps getting injured. Dellin is healthy and this year has been a big confidence booster. He is still young. Why shut the door on starting in 2015 if Pineda remains unreliable? We can find another bridge to DRob easier than a quality, cheap, inhouse starter. Dellin could rewrite the whole Joba story (hopefully not)…

    This is all assuming Pineda continues to be a bust.

    So what are the chances Roberts plays the whole season without a DL stint?

    Sincerely,
    Mr. and Mrs. Refsnyder

    • Old Man Time

      Betances start? Apparently you slept through 2006-2012.

    • OldYanksFan

      Because he can’t throw strikes for 7 innings.
      We are thrilled that he can throw them for 2.

  • n0exit

    Serious question, does mike intentionally say something crazy in every chat just to make sure everyone is paying attention? I mean non-tender pineda, why in the world would the Yankees do that?

    • OldYanksFan

      If it sounds like snark….
      If it feels like snark….
      If it smells like snark….

    • Yankee$

      He never says to non-tender Pineda. He says to move forward without planning on him being back to help this season. Anything he provides should be considered unexpected upside.

  • fred robbins

    The only thought I have about Tanaka is if he will be strong enough at the end of August, after pitching in so many 2-1 and 1-0 games with most of his innings and pitches being high stress.

  • Pinedamaybegreata(formerlyMonterowasdinero)

    Get ready for Mookie Madness tonight on the ESPN Red Sox station. The second coming….

  • Pinedamaybegreata(formerlyMonterowasdinero)

    Jays and O’s lose. Another night to make up some ground…

  • Tyrone Sharpton

    After seeing the poor guy’s “I so apologize” interview post pine tar ejection, I’ve been pulling for him. Tanaka and Pineda are a scary two headed monster when healthy, maybe just as strong as LA’s top two