Jun
08
Sunday Night Open Thread
ByI know these have been out there for a few days and you’ve probably all seen them already, but I guess it’s better to post them late than never. Apparently Mark Teixeira has a fake talk show on the YES Network and you know what? It’s actually kinda funny. There’s the video above, and there’s also clips with Brian McCann (video), Masahiro Tanaka (video), and Jacoby Ellsbury (video). I can’t believe YES filmed these things in Spring Training and didn’t start posted them until recently.
Anyway, here is your open thread for the final few outs of the weekend. The ESPN Sunday Night Game is the Red Sox and Tigers (Lackey vs. Sanchez), plus Game Two of the NBA Finals is on as well. Talk about those games or anything else right here.
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The Tex interviews are great. Need a laugh after today’s game.
Pretty funny when Jack tells him hes actually drinking Green Tea and Tex says “I don’t like green tea because i’m a man”.lol
I don’t think that’s funny in the slightest.
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“So how does this work…I shake your hand, and then you shake his hand?”
LOL
Well it’s nice to see these ballplayers laughing it up and working on their comedic timing rather than their timing at the plate. What a pathetic display this afternoon. 1-17 with RISP. And not a thing will be done. Everyone will keep their jobs, everyone will stay exactly where they are in the lineup and Girardi will continue to say they’re coming around.
I literally only clicked on the comments part of this to see if you had said something snarky. I knew it was coming.I love it. Thanks Eddie.
Edward has a fan?
I’m a fan of his snarkiness and his theories on roster management. He’s the Jose Canseco of baseball blogs. I’m not even sure if that makes sense, but in this case, it feels right.
Gee, how did I know this was coming. classic.
Well Manny Machado took a quick heel turn this weekend. As if his bitch fit out about the tag wasn’t enough (http://m.mlb.com/video/v334867.....gs-machado), he seemingly intentionally threw his bat at the pitcher/3B after a pitch I guess he considered to be too far inside. He should get suspeded.
http://m.mlb.com/video/v335523.....-baltimore
Oh AND there was this incident earlier in the game. He accidentally hit the catcher in the head with his back swing pretty hard, hard enough to knock Norris out of the game and he didn’t even bother to look and see if he was OK. Of course, it’s not his job or obligation to check on the dude, but common human decency would be to at least say “My bad” or “You OK?” something.
http://m.mlb.com/video/v335494....._pk=381479
Today I learned that Orioles first base coach Wayne Kirby–who sprinted down the baseline, picked off John Jaso seconds before he would have contacted Machado, and shoved him backwards 20 feet–is the older brother of Dolphins and Niners running back Terry Kirby.
I loved Terry Kirby.
Yeah, it’s one thing to not be a fan of someone and think they’re overrated. He’s surely turned a lot of public opinion to absolute hate or despise him now, including me.
It was hilarious seeing Showalter try to support Machado after the tag play, saying he only did it because he’s passionate. So passionate he doesn’t think anyone should be allowed to tag him out, apparently.
At least he has some passion. Our ballplayers are more interested in being Jackie Gleason than Jackie Robinson. I’d rather see fire in their bellies like Machado.
Passion is one thing. Being a jerk to others is quite another.
Say that again if Machado whacks our guys with a bat.
Maybe he disliked Donaldson’s tag so much the other day because it made the fire in his belly hurt worse. I hope he isn’t burned.
This is the third brawl Crew F is handled.
Now if the bat took out Angel Hernandez’s face and not his foot, we’d be in better shape.
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Random observation: According to BRef we’re first in attendance in AL. Didn’t look too deep but definitely first.
http://www.baseball-reference......2014.shtml
Another random observation: Brian Roberts and Alfonso Soriano has a higher OPS+ than Jeter.
Jeter is absolutely killing us
Jeter is a bum.
Hey, at least he knows when to retire. I’ve seen players hold on for yrs after age catches up to them. That ankle injury against Det in the postseason really rushed Jeter to retirement. Before that he was still pretty damn good. Still, I blame McCann, Sori, KJ, and Beltran more then I do Jeter.
If jeter knew when to retire, he wouldnt be playing.
Obvious troll is obvious.
I cant be the only one that notices that they win when he doesnt play
He plays the worst defensive shortstop in the majors. His slugging percentage is .300. That put him ahead of two players in the al. Jackey bradley and brad miller. When they arent benched, they both hit in the 9 hole. Time to retire and concentrate on handing out gift baskets to 21 year olds.
Aren’t your Red Sox playing in a few minutes?
Brad Miller hit in the 8 hole today.
Hat tip to NP&H for this one, but Jeter ranks dead last in the majors in ISO among the 229 players with 150+ PA’s.
That’s amazing.
Nope. My yankees lost already today.
Talking about Jeter’s lack of skill on the ball field, does as much good as talking about a mole in the center of your face. Until you remove it, it stays the same. Neither Girardi or anyone else in management has the desire to do what is best for the team as a whole.
I wonder if other players are beginning to get resentful or even worse, not trying as hard because of what now appears a hopeless situation.
About the only thing that would salvage this day is to see Mr Awesome O’Clock get lit up.
After today, I can see why folks thought Morales was a bad fit for the Yankees. With so much bad hitting, he might stick out like a sore thumb and he’d probably have a real hard time fitting in with the poor AB’s and the stranding of baserunners.
Bigger dissapointment to this point, Brian McCann or CC Sabathia?
Brian McCann has been awful with the bat. 225BA to this point is unacceptable. You almost have to wonder if John Ryan Murphy would have the same if not better production if he got the same amount of playing time.
I’d pick McCann personally.
Easily McCann. I didn’t expect anything from Sabathia other than being a back-end innings eater, which he was pre-injury. McCann was supposed to be excellent and I think everyone envisioned him taking advantage of the short porch. It hasn’t happened.
McCann’s body looks like it won’t age well also. Looks more like bar league softball then ML. The worst part is hes shown a downswing as a hitter over the past couple yrs. His power numbers are solid, but not overly fantastic that you can forgive hitting 230. Hes supposed to be a all around player. He needs to pick it up.
I thought CC would bounce back to a degree. I envisioned 15-10 4.00era type season. So hes a bit of a dissapointment to me. Still would take him over Phelps/Nuno all day long.
Agreed, though my expectations for both were a little lower than yours. I didn’t expect Sabathia to be an innings eater as he’s been showing more and more injury issues recently. I did expect McCann to use the porch, but I wouldn’t say I expected him to be excellent, per se. Still though, McCann has clearly been the bigger disappointment.
Sabathia.
Even after all the weight loss, I think CC still edges out McCann by a few pounds.
The sample size is large enough at this point. He is a zero tool player.
Maybe you should say it a few more times.
While touching himself. Yes. Rub it enough and maybe it’ll grant a wish for him.
Managements hands are tied with jeter. Every time that they have given him a day off he spews to the media that he wants to be playing every day. The fans would go bananas if they transitioned him to a part time player without his blessing. He should retire after his undeserved allstar game appearance. If not, he should talk to management and give them his permission to phase him out.
Different day, same ol’ Girardi batting Jeter and his .612 OPS in the two hole.
Eff this man. Wake me up when this organization actually cares about winning baseball games.
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“The Yankees are awesome. Jeter is awesome. He’s playing good. He deserves to hit in the second spot for sure, yo. He’s playing really well in the field so far too, probably as well as Ryan. In fact, I hope he plays every day. I hope he comes back next season too. No way we can find a better shortstop than him. Everything is awesome. Just awesome.”
Made-up quotes are awesome.
You mean Girardi didn’t say “yo”???
As are first-name-only Jeter trolls.
Those doggone Jeter trolls and their opposition to a .612 OPS getting the second most at bats on the team while being a defensive atrocity! Fools I say!
Girardi’s in an impossible situation with respect to Jeter.
Reminds me of when Torre had to tell Bernie he wasn’t going to play center any more. I believe he (Torre) called it his worst day in Pinstripes.
Yanks cut bait with bernie way before he degraded to the player jeter currently is. Check the numbers.
No he’s not. It’s called batting the worst player on the team last or not playing him at all. He’s under contract and is in his last season.
Oh, I forgot. We shan’t be hurting Jeet’s wittle feewings now shan’t we?
Ugh.
Why? Most seem to think he belongs down the bottom of the order anyways, so why is it impossible decision for him? Most would be happy except for Jeter.
Wow. Melky Cabrera is third in voting for the starting outfield in the AL All-Star team.
Is it possible to trade this entire franchise for Kershaw, Springer, Trout, and McCutcheon? Just keep Tanaka and Ellsbury. Each of those outfielders are fast enough to cover 2 or 3 positions so just play with a few players until the farm system develops something.
Clearly not serious, but it seems like a better option than sending these guys out on the field every day. This team is hopeless. As fans we have to realize that the tools just aren’t there. A few years ago this would be a very good club. McCann isn’t the player he was. Beltran certainly isn’t. Soriano has been past his prime for what, 5? 6 years? It’s time for this team to live in the present and maybe a little bit of losing, though it kills us to watch is now, is what the front office needs to make a move.
Soriano was past his prime last August and September. Uh huh.
Exhale a bit. It’ll be good for you
Pat Venditte was brilliant for Scranton tonight. 3inn 0er 3k 0bb. God, it’d be neat to see him make his ML debut this yr.
Refsnyder with another multi-hit game- 2-4 1BB
It really seems as if Jeter should be moved down in the batting order.Perhaps bringing up Refsynder to play second base would help. I believe McCann will start hitting unless he is not comfortable playing in New York. Kelly Johnson should be released and above all K.Long the hitting coach should be fired ;he is not earning his money. Hats off to Solarte,Els. and Ichiro;they are the only ones hitting decently.
I get the frustrations with Jeter but honestly what do you want them to do? Tell the face of the franchise and a hall of fame SS making his final rounds, “hey you suck, were not going to play you anymore”. Its not like Brendan Ryan is going to add anything offensively, defensively he would be a huge upgrade but he isn’t going to hit any better than Jeter.
The frustrations with McCann are certainly warranted (though I remain impressed by his defense). His K rate is down as is his BB rate, but his BABIP is low and looks to be a bit unlucky still as his GB rate is the lowest of his career while his LD rate is second highest of his career (behind his rookie season of 2005). The only negative I can find is that he is swinging at pitches outside of the zone more than he has the past few seasons but it still is only 1% higher than his career rate. I think McCann’s struggles are partially bad luck and partially him still trying to figure out how to beat the shift. I know we are 62 games in now but I’m still keeping faith in McCann.
The Yankees have issues no doubt but what other options do they have? There is no FA available who will be able to help them and they have very few prospects that can help. The main thing I would like to see is the release of Soriano and start being more aggressive with a few of the prospects. Let me see what Zoilo or Ramon Flores can do with some regular at bats in the majors, they can’t be worse than Soriano.
Why do you have to tell him he sucks and isn’t playing? Just move him down the lineup. Shoot, he might end up having a better season and being more helpful down in the 8 or 9 spot.
Pretty much everyone here wants Jeter moved down in the lineup, from what I can tell. Even if that did happen I’m sure there’d still be a lot of complainers saying he needs to take it a step further and just retire.
This. I like your way of thinking.
I don’t think anyone based in reality expects them to just bench Jeter. Dropping him in the order shouldn’t be blasphemy though and has happened to many, many Yankees greats.
As for McCann, I’m still very concerned about him. His numbers are scarily close to what he kept up for the whole season in 2012, and that would make 2 of the last 3 seasons at this level of production. Also, a low BABIP isn’t always luck, especially with the shifts being used more and more now. His ISO is also a career low (since his rookie year). He’s also at a career high in IF pop-outs, meaning he’s hitting a bunch of the easiest outs there are. Personally, I haven’t been overly impressed with his defense either. It seems like every other inning another pitch gets away from him.
When he was first signed, I wasn’t happy with the contract, but eventually got myself at least to satisfied with it based on other people’s analysis and opinions I saw. Now, it’s kind of going back the other way again. I’m very concerned about what he’s going to look like over the course of that contract.
Picking up guys like McCann and Beltran and expecting good/great things out of them is a crapshoot. I think everyone knows that going in. It’s a shame they haven’t (so far) panned out, but is anyone really that surprised? Soriano flat out sucks, he hasn’t been good in years so maybe that move was just bad, but the FO chose to make some patch-up moves and hope for the best and this is what they got.
Exactly. Benching him would be blasphemy, especially for Ryan. But keeping him in the 2 spot when he clearly doesn’t deserve it, like some charity case, is also fucking insulting. Jeter is not delusional. He understands what is going on.
It wouldn’t be blasphemy for Jeter to lose playing time to someone playing markedly better. Brendan Ryan just isn’t the guy to push the issue.
I’m right there with you. And my personal threshold for “markedly better” would be like Tulo … and that is it. Jeter deserves to play out his last season as a starter more or less. But I didn’t get the memo that it had to be in 2nd spot in the line up too.
I wouldn’t honestly go that far. I am fine with a legendary player taking on a reduced role in their final season. I just don’t think the player that would push this issue is on this team.
So many other things wrong with the 2014 Yankees. Why are so many people picking at the Jeter scab?
Because it is the only easy fix.
Which would barely move the arrow.
David Phelps, Vidal Nuno, and Chase Whitley are 3/5 of the rotation.
You play to win the game. Hello. You play to win the game. You don’t play to just play it. And I don’t care if you don’t have any wins. You play to win.
Those three have combined for a 4.26 ERA as starters. Their nearly 5 1/2 innings per start isn’t great, but it’s not too far off from an average AL starter, who still goes under 6 innings per start.
The pitching hasn’t been the biggest problem. The offense has. And Jeter’s place in the middle of killing rally after rally or not getting on to start anything is a huge part of it.
Good post. Its weird with McCann as when the Yanks signed him, most were thrilled without really looking at McCanns body type and what hes been doing lately with the bat. I think the Yanks catching situation last yr had most so happy they upgraded the position they didn’t even care about the risk McCann could be, if he continued to hit like he had the past yr and a half, mixed in with the fact hes not exactly a workout warrior, judging from his bodytype. Now that the allure of having a catcher thats not C.Stewart has wore off, and McCann is doing what hes doing, which is nothing , people are starting to realize the signs were there to begin with, and we were just at a bad place(stewart) to think rationally about it.
I’d love to see Flores when he’s healthy again.
Agreed 100% on McCann. So completely premature to write him off.
It’s one thing to suggest Jeter be moves down the lineup, play less, etc. To call him a bum is fuxkinnf disgraceful. People should thank their lucky stars their parents conceived them in order to time perfectly with watching his career.
Who’s calling him a bum? I don’t think any serious Yankee fan would. But is it too much to ask for them to switch him and Solarte in the lineup? Apparently yes.
I’d be fine with that.
He’s been called a bum within this comment thread.
I have no clue what “fuxkinnf” means either.
He’s been called a bum and worse of late. Granted, he’s playing like ass, but to call the greatest shortstop we’ve ever had a “bum” is the height of spoiled entitlement and pure ignorance.
Yeah, hes not overly terrible even now when looking at other SS’s in the league. And we all know Derek can get hot for a month at any point and before you know it, hes above league avg offensively.
I would like him moved down in the lineup though. I don’t really get all the ego stuff? Who cares if your 40yrs old and batting 9th in a ML lineup? THe point is your 40yrs old and still starting if you ask me. Thats pretty damn impressive.
How awesome is Chad Jennings?
Here in Kansas City, this was one of those Sundays when kids were allowed to run the bases postgame. Around and around they went, running at full speed, stomping on home plate. They seemed to be mocking the Yankees with every step.
Look how easy this is!
What a great way to start your wrap-up of this game.
Love Chad.
1-17 with RISP? Glad I missed this one. Then again, glad I have missed most of the last few weeks. This offense is deplorable.
This is the Sunday Night Blog ? You Jeter haters have no sense of tradition . The Yankees just plain suck . I say fire Cashman. Fire Larry Rothschild . Fire Kevin Long. Release Sabathia. Bring Tex back from Jones Beach and then kick his ass off the team. Teach Gardner how to steal a base. Put McCann on a low carb high protein diet. KILL Soriano. Fit Robertson for a Botox lip transplant. Drown Kelly Johnson . KILL Soriano again. Give JR Murphy the starting catcher job until Franky can get back behind the plate. Take the Yes Network off the air . Let Mike Francesca do the play by play.
Killing Soriano twice over seems excessive seeing as he is already dead.
Better safe than sorry.
Better safe than
sorrySori.Are you guys serious? McCann has a .225 batting average, it’s June 8th, and you’re ready to get rid of him already? Is it so easy to forget the platoon of Chris Stewart and Austin Romine? This is BAD Brian McCann, the numbers he’s putting up would be Stewart/Romine on the juice.
Let’s completely leave out the fact he had to learn a whole new pitching staff, along with a bunch of guys who quite frankly don’t belong in a ML staff/bullpen, and also tutor who’m I believe Cashman/Girardi want to be the catcher of the future in JRM.
You can’t say Jeter is the sole biggest problem with this team when the corpse of Soriano gets trotted out everyday and Gardner/Ellsbury are the only ones producing of late other than Solarte.
All in all, I do think it’s time for Cashman to go. Somebody has to take the fall for a lack of MLB ready prospects, which for some reason Hal is just now caring about when it’s been a huge problem since at least 2011.
Does anyone think the Yanks could be aggressive at the deadline to the point they can make one blockbuster deal to get a hitter and a pitcher?? Trying to think of teams who could be sellers and if they got a pitcher and hitter they’d be willing to part with and if we’d have enough to give the team anyways?
Alot of people mention Chase Headley as a potential trade target, would it be possible for us to get both Andrew Cashner and Chase Headley in one big trade? Maybe a Gary Sanchez, Adam Warren, Peter O’Brien, Luis Severino package could get it done?
Its just a example but if the Yanks could get a deal like that done, I think they can jump back into the playoff mix, especially when a couple other guys come back to the mix. Yanks could essentially add Pineda,Cashner,Headley,Kelley, and CC to what we all ready got. Thats pretty nice.
Cashner? I think you’d have to place half the system in a Pod and send them via freight.
No way I spend even half of that on Headley at this point in time.
I think they wait and see as to what starting pitching market emerges in the next month but, in the end, I agree with Mike that they already have a proper inseam measurement for Jason Hammel ready.
Yeah, Cashner would be the main get for the Yanks in the example deal. Headley would be more a guy we hope needs a change of scenery and can hopefully take advantage of short porch.
I’d be very excited if the Yanks got Jason Hammel. I’d mentioned him as well in the group of pitchers I think could help at the deadline , not being super high priced guy. Morton, Hammel, Miley,are guys who come to mind.
What the hell do we want Headley and his .199 BA for? So we can have another sub 700 OPS guy out there. This team isn’t one hitter and one pitcher away from competing. Absolutely no need to gut the farm system to try and make some ill conceived run at getting eliminated at the first round. Sanchez and Severino have two of the highest ceilings in our whole farm. That would be ludicrous.
Yeah, but they kinda are one pitcher and hitter away if guys like Pineda, Kelley, CC, and Beltran are gonna be coming back healthy.(I know Beltys back, and hopefully he’ll stay back) It dosen’t have to be Headley, as it could also be E.Cabrera and Cashner. Another combo I like is Miley and A.Hill, Morton and N.Walker, and just Jason Hammel from the Cubs.
You add Pineda, Kelley, CC, Beltran, Cashner, Cabrera, to Betances, Robertson, Ellsbury, Gardner, Solarte, McCann, Kuroda, and your suddenly deep.
Its not outta the question one big trade could put this team back in contention with some luck with the Injured players coming back.
Also if we can’t get Aaron Hill, i’d be ok with Martin Prado and Wade Miley as well.
I also wonder if the Angels would be willing to part with some players if they look to underachieve again by the deadline. I woulden’t mind taking on CJ Wilsons contract. I just don’t wanna waste Tanakas best yrs. Someone like CJ Wilson could be a strong number 2 behind Tanaka for the next 3yrs.
This is the low point. For the offense, the only way is up from here. The pitching is in decent shape. Tanaka has been fantastic all year, Kuroda seems to have gotten in a groove, Whitley has pitched well. The trio at the back end of the pen has been great and Kelley is due back soon. Phelps and Nuno haven’t done well and need to go back to the pen, which will happen eventually after CC and Pineda return or after we acquire a SP to fill Nova’s spot. With Kelley coming back soon and eventually Pineda and CC, I think the pitching will be acceptable once guys return as long as another rash of injuries is avoided. Could be better, but right now there are bigger issues.
Obviously we have to score more. We need a bat before the deadline, doesn’t really even matter who or what position they play. Just get anybody that will mash. Power is needed and the infield defense needs improvement. Might as well shore all that up in one move. They should really look into whoever fits that (Headley, Utley- who’s probably not available but I’m just giving an example of what we need, etc.) Not much available, but we’ll have to take what we can get at this point. Before I was saying playing Johnson more over Roberts would help, but now I realize we need a much bigger upgrade than Johnson since the offense is struggling so badly. He’s not hitting anyway either. Since Jeter’s not going anywhere, they have to upgrade around him as much as possible. They made a good decision platooning Soriano because Ichiro is better against RHP while being an upgrade in RF at the same time. Sori still fits on this team due to his ability hit LHP, but man he has looked lost at times. McCann, Sori need to rebound and I think they will. Especially McCann. I’m worried about Sori’s age and terrible at bats. I’m also worried about Beltran’s elbow so can’t really expect a rebound from him. Roberts is similar to Jeter and there’s not much he does well. Acquiring a guy to play 2nd or moving Solarte to 2nd and getting a guy to play 3rd everyday could give us a solid upgrade. I don’t think they will upgrade RF because if Beltran starts throwing with no problems he’ll eventually play there and let Sori DH. Or Beltran DHs while Ichiro is in RF. It could use an upgrade, but this isn’t a must. Gardy and Ells are performing up to expectations so the outfield isn’t a too big of an issue. But the Yanks have very little WAR coming from their position players. That needs to change. We have to do something about the offense and soon. The sooner the better.
Today was awful, but I don’t really see it as “the low point.”
If James Shields were pitching for our team, that’s the type of performance we’d expect from him.
But it’s not Shield’s performance at issue. He wasn’t even sharp in the first two innings and they still couldn’t push a run across. The 1-19 WRISP and 0-9 WR on third. That’s just awful.
The announcers suck, how much did LeBron pay them to gush over his defense?
Less than Popovich paid the refs tonight?
Realistically looking at this off season who is out there that will help this team. I want nothing to do with Hanley, or Headley, I doubt/don’t want Lester or Scherzer. One pitcher I would be intrigued by though is Wei Yin Chen who could be bought out by Baltimore, slim chance but I’d like him as our 4 starter.
The one guy though that has me quite intrigued though is Emilio Bonifacio who will be a free agent. His LD% has gone up this season and his GB% is acceptable. He is also doing a very nice job of making contact this season bouncing back from an awful season last year. He’s playing mainly second and center this season and UZR rates him 1.3 at second and 2.6 in center. Obviously we probably wouldn’t use him in the outfield but I like the idea of him at second, certainly better than Roberts. I doubt it happens but he, Gardy, and Ellsbury could run teams ragged thats for sure.
Joba is warming up to close out a one run game vs the Sox on ESPN. Oh, what could have been.
If only he were blowing saves against the Red Sox for us…
I guess “what could have been,” would have been more of the same.
Haha. Joba, you suck.
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