Game 93: Beat the Birds

(Rob Carr/Getty)

(Rob Carr/Getty)

This important three-game series against the Orioles did not get off to a good start last night. Not at all. The Yankees dropped a(nother) winnable game, mostly because their offense shuts down after the fifth or sixth inning. I’m not making that up either. They average only 1.29 runs per game from the sixth through ninth innings, which is the lowest in baseball according to Team Rankings. This team goes down too easily in the late innings. Here is the Orioles lineup and here is the Yankees lineup:

  1. LF Brett Gardner
  2. SS Derek Jeter
  3. CF Jacoby Ellsbury
  4. 1B Mark Teixeira
  5. DH Brian McCann
  6. RF Ichiro Suzuki
  7. 2B Brian Roberts
  8. 3B Kelly Johnson
  9. C Frankie Cervelli
    RHP Shane Greene

It is hot and humid in Baltimore, per usual, and there are scattered thunderstorms in the forecast for later this evening. Not sure if they will be an issue for the game or what. We’ll find out eventually. First pitch is scheduled for 4:05pm ET and you can watch on YES. Enjoy the game.

Roster Updates: Jeff Francis has reported to the team and is available today. He is wearing No. 53. Matt Daley was optioned down to clear a roster spot … Masahiro Tanaka (elbow) will not attend the All-Star Game festivities next week. He’s receiving his platelet rich-plasma injection on Monday.

Categories : Game Threads


  1. Frankie Cerveddardi says:

    Chris Tillman is another Yankee killer. Offense won’t score more than 2 and Greene won’t last long. Time to get some other stuff done while this ship sinks even further. Let’s just hope the FO commits to reconstruction after the ASB.

  2. vicki says:

    nice eight-pitch inning.

  3. BKamm says:

    No Almonte again. In this park they could use a power bat like his. Was hitting RHP when they brought him up. Girardi doesn’t appear to like to play him.


  5. Tom says:

    Greene looks pretty good.

    Going to need 7 more 0′s to have a shot at a win though (or maybe 5 or 6 and turn it over to the good part of the pen)

  6. Mr. Roth says:

    Shane Greene looking solid. Attacking the zone, throwing his offspeed for strikes, trusting his stuff, and all those other pitching cliches.

  7. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    The Yankees struggle enough to score runs.
    If Joyce is going to keep making calls like that, they have no chance.

    • The Guns of Navarone says:

      The Yankees struggle enough to score runs. If Joyce is going to keep making calls like that, they have no chance.

      Fixed that for you

    • BKamm says:

      Early in the game Gary Thorne claimed Joyce was “know for a hitter friendly zone.”

  8. CashmanNinja says:

    Um…I thought catchers couldn’t block the plate before they had the ball? The catcher’s ENTIRE leg was blocking the fucking plate BEFORE he even had the ball. How is that not this so called interference rule?

    • 28 this year says:

      I was surprised there wasn’t even an argument.

    • vicki says:

      does anybody anywhere understand the rule? if that wasn’t interference, what is?

      • Need Pitching & Hitting says:

        Maybe because Jeter didn’t get there until after the ball?
        Or I suppose it could be argued Jeter had a slight lane to the plate regardless.

        • CashmanNinja says:

          That doesn’t matter. They aren’t allowed to block the plate until they have the ball. The catcher had his leg in front of the plate before he caught it while Jeter was coming towards home. It was a violation of the so called “interference” rule they came up with and I don’t see why it wasn’t called there. By definition that catcher blocked the path for the runner and it should have been scored a run. So we got screwed out of a run.

          • Need Pitching & Hitting says:

            I don’t know what the actual rule is, but it logically seems to me you can’t block the path of a runner who isn’t there yet.

            • CashmanNinja says:

              The rule says that they can’t do that until they have the ball…so *logically* that precedes whether the runner is at the plate yet or not. I mean think about it…the runner is only there when he’s AT home. He physically cannot get to home if there’s a body blocking him, so whether he’s arrived there or not makes no difference. It’s whether the catcher has received the ball and he did not.

              • Need Pitching & Hitting says:

                “Unless the catcher is in possession of the ball, the catcher cannot block the pathway of the runner as he is attempting to score.”

                It’s a bit ambiguous, and I’m not sure how it’s been applied so far, but to me, he’s not blocking the runner’s pathway if the runner is still 20 feet away.

                • CashmanNinja says:

                  But Jeter wasn’t 20 feet away…he was like 5 feet away and already beginning his slide…it’s not like he was half way down the line.

                  • Need Pitching & Hitting says:

                    Your right on that, Jeter was closer than I thought when the C recieved the ball, but still, it looked like the C was straddling the plate prior to the C, not blocking it.

                    • CashmanNinja says:

                      But he isn’t allowed to do that. He’s got to stand in front of it at an angle and can’t have so much as a foot on top of the baseline. I understand the reason for the rule, but I think it’s beyond stupid. They should be able to block it like that at their own risk, but enforce a rule where a base runner can’t physically take out a catcher unless they have the ball secure and are trying to tag them (i.e. no more of those Pete Rose/Ray Fosse plays).

                • Need Pitching & Hitting says:

                  Just watched the replay, the C was straddling the plate before he caught it, not blocking it anyways.

  9. Mr. Roth says:

    Did Tillman really throw Tex 2 knuckleballs in that at bat?

  10. steved fl says:

    bad base running,bad plays in the field/non plays and not hitting with men on base. does not sound like a good team to me.

  11. steved fl says:

    is it my imagination or do the Yankees make alot of outs on the bases?

  12. Yanks47 says:

    I wonder if we could get anything for teixera. Hes having a good year , 20 hrs. I would also look to see if we could get anything for roberts( up and down arm). Kuroda and robertson should fetch us something as well.

    • Mr. Roth says:

      Tex has a NTC and he has stated that he has no desire to waive it. No one is trading us anything worthwhile for Roberts. Kuroda also has a NTC and there probably aren’t very many teams he would waive it for. Robertson would only be a rental, so his value isn’t terribly high either.

      • vicki says:

        mark teixeira: “bury me in pinstripes.”

      • Chip Rodriguez says:

        between the way Tex has come back off the wrist injury, the Foul Territory shows, and the fact that he’s one of the really good guys in baseball (and besides, who do you replace him with?!)… I don’t want to let him go. So this works fine.

    • forensic says:

      You’re not getting much for him, regardless of the NTC. There’s a little power there, but this season mostly looks fine for him only because our standards have dropped so much based on his decline and injury. His baseline numbers are actually slightly worse than 2012 (though the adjusted numbers are slightly better considering the overall environment).

      He’s also been on a steady downward monthly trend this season. Hopefully he at least can fix that issue a little bit.

  13. Ed K says:

    Greene is looking outstanding again. Really like the pitches he is showing today. Could he be the real deal?

    • Tom says:

      He’s always had good stuff; ff he can throw strikes consistently – sure.

      Issue with him has primarily been command/control.

    • vicki says:

      the sinker’s legit. i’d like him even better with a decent infield behind him.

    • forensic says:

      I would’ve liked him up a few weeks earlier when he really started pitching better in AAA after being jerked around the first month or so of the season, but it is what it is. At least he’s here now.

  14. vicki says:


  15. CashmanNinja says:

    Shane Greene is looking awfully impressive. He really makes me think of a slightly thinner version of Chien-Ming Wang.

  16. bob says:

    Green already falling apart here in the 5th. Close to 30 pitch inning. Nothing special.

    • forensic says:

      Regardless of what he may or may not actually be, how is one long inning indicative that he’s nothing special? Contrary to popular opinion, even guys like Felix and Kershaw (and Tanaka) have long innings or bad games periodically.

      • CashmanNinja says:

        Kershaw had an awful game in May. He gave up 7 runs and didn’t even make it through 2 innings. Obviously he was nothing special, right? RIGHT?

    • Need Pitching & Hitting says:

      Yep. Really fell apart. Gave up a walk and a ground ball single. The horror!!!!

      • bob says:

        Damage was already done. 25+ inning. Totally shot for going no more than 6 IP. Means bullpen will be in either in the 6th or 7th inning. Game will be over and the pen will fail again from trying to protect the awful offense. Fell apart there with his pitch count in the 5th. Plus, he gave up two singles in that inning. The walk was to Pearce in the previous inning. Get your facts right.

        • Sam Pearce, the Troll Hunter says:

          The scoreboard may say the Yankees won 3-0, but what it fails to take into consideration is that one 25+ pitch inning.

          This game will be recorded in the record books as a loss for the Yankees, folks.

  17. bob says:

    Damage already done. Too many pitches for Greene there in the 5th. He will be lucky to make it through 6 IP. Bullpen will blow this game like last night. Game is really again on the terrible offense assembled by Cashman and company. Bad team.

    • forensic says:

      He’s at 75 pitches through 5 innings, which is a reasonable 15 pitches per inning (especially considering the defense he’s pitching in front of). He certainly should make it through 6, and could even go seven (though he probably won’t because Girardi loves pulling young guys really early even if it may not be necessary).

  18. bob says:

    What started to well is falling apart for Greene here in the 5th. He has little room for margin as the Yankees offense is done for the day. He is also having a terrible 5th inning with 25+ innings and ruining a pretty good pitch count. Awful defense too allowing the first hit of the game as Johnson and Jeter barely react. Orioles hitters are sooooo much better as they have grind ABs. Just a bad team.

    • CashmanNinja says:

      There have been at least 3 outs that other teams would have been able to make that the Yankees missed out on. That’s an entire inning right there and could be the difference between 7 very solid innings and just 6 good innings. Either way he seems to have a good mental makeup and didn’t let things unravel.

      • The Guns of Navarone says:

        I think this is a really good point. It’s tough to quantify, but you’d have to imagine the Yankees pitching have to work so much harder because of the extra outs the defense gives away, be it errors, failing to turn the DP, or just general lack of range. And don’t forget the carry-over effect that has on the bullpen.

    • Mr. Roth says:

      Gee Bob, what an astute analysis.

    • Mike Axisa says:

      Boy you are just the life of the party, aren’t you?

    • Dan says:

      We will receive a verbatim copy of what you just said 3-5 times a game from Eddard, you don’t need to bless us with your analysis. Thank you for your efforts though.

  19. forensic says:

    Jeff Francis had three or four REALLY good years in Colorado – Suzyn

    It’s nice having three lefties in the pen because you can use them all at any time to get that one big lefty out – John

    Ho hum, just another day in the Yankees radio booth.

    • CashmanNinja says:

      Those 2 are truly…well, I won’t be too mean. Sterling really disappeared. He was like that dude who worked with Ryan Seacrest during the 1st year of American Idol. I know there was another guy there, but I can’t remember his name or what he looked like. Sterling is the same. He was there, but I always chose to ignore him and really only remember him from Yankeeography and when I’m forced to listen on the radio. And Suzyn…yeah, she makes a good pair with Sterling. I’d rather listen to Ken Singleton re-live his Orioles days than listen to those 2.

      • forensic says:

        Way back I don’t remember Sterling being this bad when he was with Kay (yes, I like Kay). Even for awhile after that I thought he might have been salvagable if they got him a good partner instead of Suzyn.

        That’s no longer the case. He’s too damn old and she’s too damn terrible. I really wish they would just re-do the damn team. Continuing to throw them and their voluntary ignorance and refusal to try to learn anything in this day and age is insulting to us as fans.

  20. forensic says:

    Screw you, Sterling!

  21. TC says:

    There was a game about 2 weeks ago that they were bashing a certain strategy(I can’t remember exactly what it was but it was either the use of advanced metrics, platoon splits, or matchups based on personal history), and their reason for not liking it was because it had no application in the other 3 of the “big 4″ sports.

  22. The Guns of Navarone says:

    I’m finding it difficult to come up with new ways to describe just how bad this team stinks

  23. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Watching Kelly Johnson play (try to) is getting increasingly annoying.

  24. BKamm says:

    Jones and Cruz helped out with chasing out of the strike zone.

  25. Tom says:

    Normally I would think Greene could use a GB and potentially turn 2 here… but with this IF, Greene sure could use 3 popups right about now.

  26. vicki says:

    i’ve really enjoyed the bottom halves of the innings.

  27. forensic says:

    “If Cervelli gets a hit, then Gardner HAS to bunt. HAS to.” – John

    Yeah, it’s always a brilliant idea to give away as many outs as possible with your best hitter to bring up one of your weakest/worst.

  28. Tom says:

    Nice pitching by Greene there.

    I’d send him back out for the 7th, but he probably gets pulled or Girardi does the one batter on and he’s pulled thing.

    (Just PLEASE don’t use Thornton to pitch to Davis)

  29. Tom says:

    Small ball time? (read – try not to score by giving away an out)

    • forensic says:

      Can’t keep Cervelli bunting. He’s not a hot hitter with the bottom of the lineup coming up after him. That’s the only time you’re allowed to bunt.

  30. BKamm says:

    How was that not blocking the plate without the ball?

  31. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Yeah Jeets!!!!

  32. stuart a says:

    was going to post the yanks would not score again today. miracle of miracle they got 2 runs..

    not sure if greene is the next wong or not but he has some potential. throws hard…never know with prospects but he seems better then advertised. not under 2.00 era good but he seems to have a chance…

  33. forensic says:

    Two insurance runs???

    What is this madness???

    It’s gonna be pretty hard for the Yankees to lose 4-1 now…

  34. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    I guarantee he’s not the next wong.

  35. [cue Robbie Thomson hate here].

  36. forensic says:

    A runner thrown out at home? I’m shocked…

  37. steved fl says:

    really??? another out at home. you got to be kidding me.

  38. BKamm says:

    Wow! He was really out! How can that continue to happen?

  39. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    WTF was that? Only out by 20 feet.

  40. BKamm says:

    Made Davis look bad. 3 pitches.

  41. TC says:

    I’m seeing a lot of Soriano-esque hacks at this breaking ball he’s throwing.

  42. BKamm says:

    Hardy on three.

  43. Come on Joe, let Shane try to finish the inning.

  44. Need Pitching & Hitting says:


  45. forensic says:

    It’s too bad Greene had that long 5th inning and was guaranteed done. It would’ve been nice to see him try to work his way through the 6th or even 7th inning today.

  46. There ya go Shane.

    Kelley 8th and D-Rob 9th?

  47. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Bad send what else is new?) but at least they did score 2 with two outs.

  48. BKamm says:

    I feel much better. Rothschild went out.

  49. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Well done Mr. Greene. Very well done.

  50. vicki says:

    shane greene, you magnificent bastard.

  51. Chip Rodriguez says:

    7 innings. 9 Ks, no runs. Unbelievable.

    Shane Greene’s been awesome. Especially coming up for a team that can’t develop talent according to most of the league.

    • BKamm says:

      I believe critics would be referring to position players.

    • Troll says:

      Yeah . . . You may want to give him a few more starts before alluding to such grandiosity . . .

      • Sam Pearce, the Troll Hunter says:

        Shane Greene has BEEN awesome. Notice the past tense? It’s not really a point to be debated, the games are already in the book.

        No one declared him a lock for Cy Young. They said he has BEEN awesome.

        You might want to work on your reading comprehension before trying to critique others.

  52. Can Steve Pearce regress, please?

  53. FLYER7 says:

    Why can’t we ever find players like Pearce?

  54. BKamm says:

    Amazing! He’s letting him come out for the 8th. Greene has already entered the sacred pyramid of trust!

  55. BigBlueAL says:

    Great outing by Huff.

  56. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    So pointless…

  57. Steve Clevenger, douchebag behind plate.

  58. alittleblackegg says:

    Really happy for Greene. I have no expectations going forward, but he earned that standing ovation (in Camden, no less!)

  59. Tom says:

    This seems dumb.

    Just bring in Kelley. Haviing Huff face one batter is kind of silly.

    And on cue….


  60. Miguel Gonzalez got optioned? …wow.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting says:

      Taking advantage of the AS break to get an extra position player.

      • That is really, really silly.

      • forensic says:

        They also did it with Bud Norris to get an 8th reliever (they got a 3rd catcher for Gonzalez).

        I’m kind of in between on how I feel about it. They’re not breaking any rules or anything, it just seems kind of cheesy and almost pointless.

        Whatever… It’s kind of funny that they maybe think the Yankees offense is so intimidating that they want the extra reliever though.

        • I’d be all for a MLBPA grievance against the Orioles. Just it doesn’t see, really fair. If not, you could always just use Norris and Gonzalez in the ‘pen if desperate.

  61. Tom says:

    So at some point Robertson will be in and Chris Davis will be up as the potential tying run this inning?

  62. forensic says:

    See Girardi, this is what happens when you listen to John Sterling strategy!

  63. BigBlueAL says:

    Kelley looks like he is definitely back to being 100% healthy. Good to see.

  64. So tomorrow we’re on ESPN…

    …. barf.

  65. Tom says:


    Is Francis not available? With a lefty up 2nd, you’d have thought Girardi would have gone Kelley/Francis/Robertson.

  66. BKamm says:

    Robertson gets Cruz and Davis. Never easy.

  67. Glad D-Rob has three runs. I am flipping between this and the Mets game and it’s only a 1-run lead.

  68. vicki says:

    big wheel.

  69. forensic says:

    Terrific start by Greene too!

  70. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Damage already done.

  71. forensic says:

    Nice Robby!

  72. D-Rob making it look easy.

  73. forensic says:

    “Cleveland doesn’t have any great hitters, just a bunch of good ones. But Baltimore, they have a lot of TREMENDOUS hitters.” – Sterling


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