Yankees non-tender Slade Heathcott, Jose Campos, and David Huff

Report: Yankees avoid arbitration with Esmil Rogers
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Heathcott before he crashed into someone, probably. (Presswire)
Heathcott before he crashed into someone, probably. (Presswire)

3:16pm: The Yankees have announced the three non-tenders, so they’re official. Officially official.

12:27am: The Yankees non-tendered outfielder Slade Heathcott, right-hander Jose Campos, and left-hander David Huff prior to Tuesday’s midnight deadline, according to Joel Sherman. All of the team’s other pre-arbitration and arbitration-eligible players received a contract tender, it appears. The Yankees now have 36 players on the 40-man roster.

Heathcott, 24, was limited to only nine games with Double-A Trenton this past season due to knee surgery. He’s had a ton of shoulder and knee problems — including multiple surgeries on each — throughout his career and has only played in 309 minor league games since being the 29th overall pick in the 2009 draft, the pick the Yankees receive as compensation for not signing Gerrit Cole in 2008.

The 22-year-old Campos missed all of 2014 due to Tommy John surgery. He missed most of the 2012 season with elbow problems as well. Campos was the second player New York received in the Michael PinedaJesus Montero trade, though he’s only thrown 111.2 innings since the deal, all in Low Class-A. Like Heathcott, he was added to the 40-man roster last winter to protect him from the Rule 5 Draft.

I’m guessing the Yankees will try to re-sign both Heathcott and Campos to minor league contracts if they didn’t work out deals ahead of time. Non-tendering them is the easiest way to get them off the 40-man roster since they don’t have to pass through waivers, which they would have to do if they were released or outrighted. Despite their injuries, Heathcott and Campos are young enough that they would probably get plucked off waivers.

Huff, 30, had a 1.85 ERA (4.00 FIP) in 39 innings for New York after being re-acquired from the Giants at midseason, which is pretty good by “last guy in the bullpen” standards. MLBTR projected Huff to earn only $700k through arbitration in 2015, though the Yankees have built up quite a bit of upper level lefty bullpen depth in Justin Wilson, Jose DePaula, Jacob Lindgren, and Tyler Webb. Huff’s 40-man spot is better used elsewhere.

Report: Yankees avoid arbitration with Esmil Rogers
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  • Canarsie Yankee

    I didn’t realize Heathcott was someone that needed tendering. But I suppose he racked up service time being injured.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      He wasn’t arbitration eligible or anything. All players on the 40-man roster who don’t already have contracts have to be tendered a contract.

      • Canarsie Yankee

        Thanks. The nitty gritty roster work sometimes is over my head.

  • JacobyWanKenobi

    Hopefully they had quick deals lined up before hand to keep them on.

    • Slu

      Why? They both literally add almost zero value. I mean, if they sign them to MiLB deals, big deal. You gotta field a bunch of teams I suppose. But counting on these guys for anything is silly.

      • Havok9120

        Because they both still have upside even if they’re not worth a spot on the 40 man.

    • Havok9120

      Agreed.

  • Bigdan

    I’m confused here. I thought you could only non-tender players arbitration eligible. Slade and Campos aren’t that. Is this really just a DFA? I suppose you can cut anyone you want from the 40 through a DFA.

    • MikhelB

      it is not a DFA, if a player is in the 40 man roster it means they have a contract, those who are elligibe for arbitration is because they “gained” that extra which allows them to make more money when possible. Those who are not elligible for arbitration and are in the 40 man roster means they either have a contract signed for beyond today or their contract expires this year. MLB/MLBPA set a date for teams to sign their players with expiring contracts, which was today at 9pm (i am in the west coast).

      They basically just protected them from the rule 5 draft to sign them (if possible) to have them in the minors without the need for them to pass the waivers.

    • Pete22

      DFA is for players who have a contract. Non tender just means you won’t offer a contract by the deadline. Arb eligible or not, such players become free agents and are off the 40 man. Some stay with the same team and are given minor league deals. Thats my understanding anyways

  • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

    It’s a good thing we weren’t ever once counting on something from Slade.

    Oh, wait.

    • MikhelB

      No team signs a player expecting nothing from him.

      • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

        You, uh, completely missed what I was saying. That’s OK. Sarcasm is hard to recognize in print form.

    • Mandy Stankiewicz

      Slade is my prospect watch candidate for 2015. >

  • http://www.google.com/ Tanuki Tanaka

    David Adams!!!!!!!111

    • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

      ARE YOU RENOUNCING YOUR FANDOM?!?

      • http://www.google.com/ Tanuki Tanaka

        Already did when they let go Scott Sizemore!!!!1111

        • Jim Is Bored

          Me too :(

          • JacobyWanKenobi

            Man, how did you guys feel when Bubba Crosby got passed over for that scrub Damon?

            • Jim Is Bored

              This was an inside joke. I’m not actually heartbroken that we let Sizemore go.

              • JacobyWanKenobi

                I knew as much, I just wanted to fit in ;.;

  • NYCORNERSTONE

    Opening spots should be signing some people soon

    • JacobyWanKenobi

      It was for the Dec 2nd Non Tender deadline, so I don’t think it points to anything immediate.

  • Adam Brunelle

    It’s pretty silly if the Yankees don’t sign Everth Cabrera now, just to see what he’s got. The guy has a lot of potential to shine and there’s little risk at all.

    • RetroRob

      There is an open thread.

      • Adam Brunelle

        and my comment is re: nontender stuff. re: open roster spot. Totally relevant. I do not get it why people are so pointlessly anal here about being “on topic.” If i started talking about the NBA, or siging Jon Lester you’d have a point, but this is just a stretch.

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          I don’t get why screen names we’ve never seen before feel they have the right to complain about how things to here.

          • calripyankee

            Didn’t know this was a private party.. If you re not a regular, just sit in the corner and keep your mouth shut??? What a group..

            • Jorge Steinbrenner

              Too often it feels like a LoHud private party. Sure.

              How about we land on a happy middle there, bud?

              • Jim Is Bored

                Their way or the highway, Jorge.

              • blake

                not sure how this became about Lohud but carry on…..

                • Looser Trader FotD™

                  Seriously?

              • calripyankee

                Sure..

          • blake

            It is kinda relevant though…..where do you draw the line between what’s ” on topic”? Is this post only about Yankee non tenders or non tenders in general?

            • Jorge Steinbrenner

              And sometimes you all feel like you kicked the door right in and moved in all your shit….and it’s not very good shit.

              • blake

                you all? I just don’t get all the angst to be honest…..

        • calripyankee

          Sounds like a good idea to me.. Yankees aren’t going to find their “replacement for Jeter” overnight.. Unless they trade the farm for one (who s a big question mark), so E Cabrera wouldn’t be a bad place to start..

        • Y’s Guy

          If any replacement for an open spot is on-topic then any move, including Lester/Scherzer are on topic, so I can see the point. OTOH i’m over on the open thread talking to myself again…

    • TopChuckie

      They sure would have some team speed if they brought him in.

      Pads just declined to pay him $2.9M, I’d offer him 3 years/$6M total. If he flops the Yanks can afford to eat that, if he pans out they got a steal. I fear, in this market, he’s actually going to cash in for a lot more than that.

  • blake

    I hope they can re-sign Heathcott and especially campos….. He’s still very young and still had upside once tjs is past him.

    But yea they needed to get them off the 40 man and this was the easiest way and probably also the best way to keep them if the players want to stay

  • Jorge Steinbrenner

    WHERE. IS. BUNNY.

    In all seriousness, yes, I hope they find a way to keep Heathcott in the system. It needed to be done, though, especially in the ridiculous case of having Campos on the 40-man.

    • blake

      Id like to keep Heathcott but I care a lot more that they keep campos….he might still have have use one day……at slades age and with his injury history it’s unlikely he ever will

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        Funny. I feel the complete reverse of that.

        • Y’s Guy

          Frankly, I don’t remember who’s a Hatfield and who’s a McCoy any more…

          • ropeadope1

            Hatfield is the guy from The Righteous Brothers and McCoy is the guy from the (Philadelphia) Eagles.

            • Y’s Guy

              That’ll come as a big surprise to both Jay Gruden and Mark Sanchez….

        • blake

          why? Campos is only 22 and if he can get past TJS then he could still become something……Heathcott has a series of seemingly chronic issues now that it doesn’t like he’s ever going to get past….plus he’s older.

          I just think there is a better chance that Campos could grow up and be reliever or soemthign than there is that Slade will ever factor in the Yankees outfield.

          • Jorge Steinbrenner

            Campos has never pitched above single-A. Has he ever pitched a full season? Talent is great. The hill he has to climb is massive.

            • blake

              sure but he could climb it fast if he could ever get healthy. At Slade’s age the end could be near if he doesn’t get healthy and do something quickly

    • ropeadope1

      HERE. IS. BUNNY.
      —–
      Keep both Heathcott & Campos.

  • CashmanNinja

    This isn’t surprising in the least. Neither player has been able to stay healthy and it would be a waste of roster spots to keep them. They’re still talented, but again…injuries. Slade’s progress came to a standstill since he literally couldn’t gt on the field. He was drafted several years ago. Think of how long ago 2009 really was. If they can re-sign him then I’d be ok with that, but he’s not the kind of player you break the bank for — or forfeit a roster spot for. The same goes for Campos. I’d like for them to try to keep him, but if they can’t then it’s not the end of the world. I highly doubt he ever becomes a starter, but he had good overall stuff and could be a valuable bullpen piece in the future — if he can stay healthy. But that’s the key to both. If they can’t stay healthy then they’re pretty much deadweight. It’s not like we have tons of wiggle room. Every roster spot needs to be occupied by someone who could help in a pinch at this point.

    • blake

      We need campos though to further claim we won the Montero trade…..very important

      • Y’s Guy

        Jesus had an extended winter to do nothing but eat (ice cream sandwiches) He’s likely to look like John Goodman at camp next spring!

        • blake

          oh…..that’s mean but I laughed…..

  • blake

    the caption on the picture is hilarious….it’s sad because Heathcott is very talented and it seems a lot of the inujuries could have been avoided if he didn’t treat his body like a crash dummy.

    • MTU

      How long have I been saying he is very unlikely to stay healthy because he still thinks he’s playing Football.
      Too bad they don’t pay by the surgery. He could have been retired already.
      They should have moved him when he still had some value.

      • Austinmac

        You have been saying that for quite some time. What’s that they say about a blind hog? :)

  • Yankee Trader

    28 yo righty, Brandon Beachy had second TJ last March. Any interest?

    Beachy, 3.23 ERA and 1.13 WHIP in 267 2/3 career major league innings.
    How about 29 yo righty Kris Medlen, also had second TJ in March?
    Career 2.96 ERA and 1.16 WHIP in 512 2/3 career major league innings

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      Medlen may still carry too much of a price tag for the risk. As low-cost moves on MiLBs, or something similar to what Andrew Bailey received? Of course.

    • Jim Is Bored

      Beachy’s stats are almost irrelevant since they were before his second TJ. His velocity never came back after the first one.

  • TopChuckie

    So looking at the complete list of non-tenders at MLBTraderumors, almost all of them are major leaguers or have major league experience, except Heathcott and Campos. Does this in some way indicate the Yanks are not managing their 40-man the way they should be?

    Position Players

    – John Baker, Cubs
    – Gordon Beckham, Angels
    – Kyle Blanks, Athletics
    – Andrew Brown, Athletics
    – Everth Cabrera, Padres
    – Daniel Descalso, Cardinals
    – Andy Dirks, Blue Jays
    – Juan Francisco, Red Sox
    – Slade Heathcott, Yankees
    – John Mayberry, Blue Jays
    – Carlos Rivero, Mariners
    – Adam Rosales, Rangers
    – Gaby Sanchez, Pirates
    – Justin Smoak, Blue Jays
    – Eric Young, Mets

    Pitchers

    – Brandon Beachy, Braves
    – Francisley Bueno, Royals
    – Jose Campos, Yankees
    – Scott Carroll, White Sox
    – Yoslan Herrera, Angels
    – David Huff, Yankees
    – Michael Kirkman, Rangers
    – Wade LeBlanc, Angels
    – Kris Medlen, Braves
    – Alexi Ogando, Rangers
    – Logan Ondrusek, Reds
    – Curtis Partch, Reds
    – Chaz Roe, Pirates
    – Gus Schlosser, Braves
    – Kraig Sitton, Rockies
    – Scott Snodgress, White Sox
    – Wesley Wright, Cubs

    • Mayan Brickann

      Don’t think that Campos and Heathcott are representative of the Yankees mismanaging their 40 man. Both are young talented guys and the Yankees did the right thing keeping them around to see if they could get past their injury issues. Alas, they could not.

      • TopChuckie

        Maybe it’s just a result of injuries, but it seems odd the Yanks are forced to cut two minor leaguers/prospects, while no one else really had to cut even one. Other teams have development slowed by injuries too.

      • TopChuckie

        And that’s kind of my point, Yanks are forced to cut young talented guys, no one else really seems to be forced into the same situation. I understand the injury situation with these guys, no other team’s prospects get slowed by injuries to the point they have to let them go like this? Maybe it’s not that they have mishandled these two players up to this point, maybe it’s that they have mishandled the other 38 spots forcing them into a situation where these players are casualties for the Yanks while they are not for other teams.

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          I think this happens all the time. They’re just random names in the sea when they’re on another team.

      • TopChuckie

        On the other hand, maybe the Yanks are smarter than everyone else and they already have agreements in place for these guys to return and they really aren’t forced to lose anyone, though if I’m Heathcott, I might be ready for a change of scenery just based on superstition about my luck in this organization.

        • blake

          I’m guessing this is probably the case…..espeically with Campos…..I really would be shocked if they don’t retain him.

        • Fernandito Andujar

          My understanding is this didn’t expose them to the waiver claim and the Yanks just have to outbid others for their service. I wouldn’t lament either loss, as the Yankees have a bunch of young power arms in the pipeline to absorb the loss of Campos. Heathcott is 24 and has a handful of games at AA.

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        Campos was added on way too prematurely and, with his injury history, could have been risked to exposure. No issue with how Slade has been managed.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      A ton of flyer material there. Only Beckham, the Braves guys, and Cabrera (and a nice outpatient therapy referral) strike me as more than that at the moment. Lots of good MiLB fodder, though.

      • TopChuckie

        I like the Chris Young signing, but if they hadn’t, Mayberry would have been a good option for right handed 4th OF/Backup 1B.

      • JacobyWanKenobi

        I actually think they should wing it and grab Cabrera. They could add a naughty clause to his contract that would option him straight to Hell, or Hell’s AAA affiliate- Florida.

      • blake

        Beckham is still only 27….seems like he should be 35 by now….he’s never been very good but taking a flyer to see if there is still some talent in there wouldn’t be the worst thing.

        • TopChuckie

          Not the worst thing, but I don’t like the idea of tying up a roster spot on a 2B with unlikely upside. They already have guys with higher and probably more likely upside in Refs & Pirela and they only tie up a 40-man, not 25-man. If he was a SS I’d be all for it, but not at 2B, and I don’t like his bat at 3B even if he approaches his upside. Too limited and limiting.

          • blake

            yea….can’t argue.

  • Y’s Guy

    Everybody loves the guy who will crash into the fence to make a play. It just doesn’t seem very wise, though.

    • MTU

      I don’t. I prefer someone who will be around a while.

      • Y’s Guy

        I’m guilty of it myself, Darin Erstad was one of my favorites, he played baseball like the a football player, which unfortunately is probably why he became a journeyman around age 30.

        • MTU

          Aaron Rowand, Lenny Dykstra, etc.
          I know what you mean.
          These guys can be exciting to watch and you applaud the all-out effort.
          But being a little smart about it doesn’t hurt either.

          • Yankee Trader

            Lenny Dykstra-Look at early pics of him and then see how he changed. PEDS.

          • Looser Trader FotD™

            Rowand was a joy to watch in the OF

        • Mayan Brickann

          Felt the same way about Fred Lynn. He still managed to have a pretty lengthy MLB career because he was such a great hitter, but he’d have been an easy HOF’er if he wasn’t quite so reckless.

      • blake

        you’ve always been skeptical that Slade could stay healthy…..

        • MTU

          Didn’t have to be a rocket scientist to conclude that.

        • Chip

          When you have to have your body cut open that many times at such a young age it doesn’t bode well for your future.

    • Mayan Brickann

      Certainly isn’t great for one’s career prospects.

  • GregD

    So many prospects don’t go anywhere because of injuries…..Christian Garcia, Brien Taylor, Alan Horne, Ravel Santana and the list goes on

    • calripyankee

      If I was Slade, I d run like Hell from this organization.. The only ones suffering more injuries than the Yankees’ team, is the players in their minor league system..

  • mustang

    “Royals To Re-Sign Luke Hochevar”
    The Royals are giving out 10 for 2 to a guy coming back from TJ!
    Like said DRob 4 for 60 and Miller 4 for 45

  • Chip

    So if my math is correct the Yankees currently have 36 players on the roster. No real standouts among the other guys who were non-tendered though I’m a bit surprised following the Lind deal that the Jays cut Justin Smoak. Of course it’s entirely possible that they re-sign him at a lower number.

    Juan Francisco was non-tendered after being DFAd by the Red Sox – I still see him as a potential buy low guy for the Yankees as a platoon 3b with Alex or Prado.

    Everth Cabrera is the only SS to hit the market and he’s not worth bringing in.

    Kris Medlen is an interesting guy if you wanted to bring him in as a rehab project knowing you won’t see him this year.

    • blake

      I think they said he could maybe pitch sometime this year but he turned down an offer from the Braves that had like a 5 million dollar 2015 salary…..so to get him it’s gonna cost real money and a 40 man spot. I’d be ok with it but you have to know going it that it might be money out the window

      • Chip

        I don’t mind giving him $ this year so long as there are some very team friendly options on the back end of it.

        I would also like to see the Yankees make a deal for this kid Taylor Featherston out of the Rockies’ organization – he’s one of the guys BBA highlights as an interesting Rule 5 possibility. A SS with some power, not the greatest range in the world. Problem is he’s only played at AA so I would deal for him, put him on the 40 and then stash him in the minors.

        • FriarFlyer

          If they make him a Rule 5 doesn’t he have to stay on 25 man or be offered back?

          • Chip

            He would. I wouldn’t make him a Rule 5. I would try to trade for him separately and add him to the 40 in advance of the Rule 5 draft.

        • YakaTanaka

          So you think Featherston is worth a 40-man spot, but not Everth Cabrera?

          Serious question. I don’t know enough about either to hae a strong opinion. At first glance, though, the guy who is expected to be an adequate MLB SS in 2015 is a better use of the spot than the 24 year old in AA who isn’t considered an everyday SS and most seem to consider basically an borderline UTL prospect. Neither MLB.com nor minorleagueball even had Featherston as a top 20 prospect for the Rockies last year.

          • Chip

            I don’t know enough about Featherston either. Ideal scenario would be that he doesn’t get drafted and the Yankees can trade for him, stick him in the minors and not have to give up the pick. Honest answer is that there are probably a lot of guys like Featherston around baseball I just don’t know about them because they weren’t highlighted by Baseball America as being potentially available.

            To answer the question though – I would pick Featherston over Cabrera simply due to the off the field issues. If Cabrera were Troy Tulowitzki or even Erik Aybar I might feel differently, but to me he is a guy who had one good half of a season and then had to sit out the second half because he was busted for PED use.

            • YakaTanaka

              It was one half season of very good baseball, but he was a perfectly respectable starting SS the year before too and is projected to be one by Steamer next year as well. (If nothing else, that’s a lot more than Featherston has done and probably ever will.)

              Lot of MLB players use PEDs. I don’t see that as such a big deal. There’s some risk, but I think that was more bad luck in your dealer getting busted than anything.

              Resisting arrest or whatever is definitely a big red flag for me. Not necessarily a deal breaker, though.

  • TB

    Evereth Cabrera is actually interesting – until last season he was a quality player but obviously comes with baggage. I was surprised the Yankees tendered Esmil Rogers also. Not surprised at all at non tendering Huff and Heathcott

    • Y’s Guy

      Cabrera is playing next to David Wright in my crystal ball…

      • Chip

        They would be better off just letting Wilmer Flores play.

        Cabrera isn’t an upgrade from Tejada.

        • Y’s Guy

          I expect Flores to play 2B with Murphy elsewhere.

          • Chip

            That’s reasonable.

      • TB

        Y I think he is a great bounce back candidate and probably at a good price tag

    • Chip

      I think they really liked what Esmil did when he came over here (and why wouldn’t they – he pitched well) and this is a no-risk move. There are still plenty of guys on the roster who are obvious DFA candidates if they need more spots (which they will). And it gives them the option to offer one of their other relievers up in a trade.

      • TB

        I Highly doubt Rogers makes the team and if he does it means they added little to the bullpen.

  • Chip

    The interesting thing is that there are a lot of platoon guys who were non-tendered:

    Francisco
    Mayberry
    Gaby Sanchez

    As I said below – I have a distinct view of how Francisco would be a fit with the Yankees. You can play him at 3b against RHP and have him as a back-up to Tex.

    But those other two guys would also fit as bats off the bench.

    • FriarFlyer

      12 man pitching staffs and 4 player benches dont lend to a bat off the bench philosophy

      • Chip

        Sure they do.

        Bench could be Ryan, Young, Murphy, Mayberry – that’s a back up INF, OF, C and a guy in Mayberry who can play LF, RF, 1b.

        • TB

          No thanks we have Pirella for the bench who I much prefer

          • calripyankee

            Me too..

        • YakaTanaka

          Brendan Ryan is also your only backup IF there, which isn’t very pretty.

          I don’t know that any of those guys are good enough to lock yourself into, though.

    • YakaTanaka

      Francisco is definitely interesting, especially if they don’t add Headley.

      I don’t know that Matberry or especially Sanchez would fit on the roster. Some depth in spring training would he nice, but I have to imagine they’ll find clearer routes to playing time elsewhere.

  • Robert

    Good Luck to Slade, a victim to injuries. That leaves Ramon Flores and Tyler Austin as next hopes for a home grown outfielders before Judge and Cave.

    • YakaTanaka

      Good chance Slade will be back, no?

    • calripyankee

      T Dugas could get some play next year..

  • Mandy Stankiewicz

    Saw that Ogando was non-tendered. He was god-awful in 2014, but with his history he kinda smells like a Yankee-esque reclamation project. Does anyone know anything about the reds relief pitcher Partch? He’s young, didn’t play too much last year–injury? Just bad at pitching?

    • calripyankee

      Ogando s pretty much the same player as E Rogers no??? With a little better track record..

      • Mandy Stankiewicz

        I forgot about Esmil, but Ogando can play the OF. (it just seems like the kinda’ guy the Yankees like)

        • ropeadope1

          Is he (Ogando) a good hitter?

    • Hiram

      Yeah, Ogando, Beachy or Medlen could be good aquisitions

    • blake

      yea I’d look in to him…..

    • Fernandito Andujar

      I think Ogando is worth a look. He had an awful year in 2014, but had four good to decent years despite flipping from the pen to the starting rotation. Depends if he wants to be a starter or reliever.

  • YakaTanaka

    Everth Cabrera is definitely interesting given the state of the Yankees SS situation. Could be worth bringing in even if it’s to compete with Brendan Ryan in spring (pending some due diligence, of course). A backup with some more upside than Ryan would be nice, especially since they currently have no starter and many of the starting options come with lots of risk.

    It’s like a straddle with derivatives. Rather than hoping someone works out and rolling with Ryan if they don’t, the Yankees might be better off hoping that one of two guys works out and rolling with Ryan as a third option.

    • Chip

      Not sure I would touch Cabrera – he had a terrible season last year, which coincidentally came the year after he was busted for PED use during his best season, and has had several off the field issues lately.

      Could he be an upgrade from Ryan – of course – pretty much anyone would be. But I just don’t think the juice is worth the squeeze on that one.

      • YakaTanaka

        I don’t think there’s much of any squeeze involved. Worst case it’s a roster spot, a couple mill, and some ST PAs. Good chance it’s a minor league deal and some ST PAs.

        I think that squeeze is definitely worth what may be one of the best backup SS in MLB.

    • Wicomico Pinstripes

      I don’t get the appeal in Cabrera at all. He had a nice 13′, but even that was just one good half. He slashed .291/.373/.396(124 wRC+) in 363 PA before the break then had a 61 wRC+ in 72 PA after the break before getting suspended. Prior to that his career slash was .240/.321/.327(83 wRC+) in 1137 PA. Everyone should know by now how awful he was last year.

      Both UZR and DRS have him as a bit below average at SS, but I haven’t seen him play enough to know if that passes the sniff test or not. Of course, he does provide value baserunning, but that looks like that’s about all he does well.

      • dickylarue

        I don’t get the appeal either. Lots of guys make an all star appearance only to never be heard from again. I think if he didn’t have an All Star game to his credit no one would even be mentioning him.

        That said, I’d get Smoak to come in for a look. Lefty power at 1b is important with Tex being made of glass. Unless Bird is literally one callup away, I’d like us to have a real alternative at 1b other than McCann…and don’t give me Arod. He hasn’t even taken the field yet and I have serious doubts he ever will.

        • Wicomico Pinstripes

          If he could play the OF, maybe. I’m not using a roster spot on a BU1B.

          • dickylarue

            I’d agree with you except we have a fragile 1b and when he inevitably goes down, we suck at replacing him. They need someone who can actually play the position while Tex is still under contract.

            • Havok9120

              If he wants to have a spot on the 40 man and chill in AAA, fine. But carrying a backup 1B on the 25 man waiting for Tex to go down is just poor roster management considering our other needs.

      • Havok9120

        I think a lot of the appeal comes from how cheap he would be and the (probably unfounded) belief that he’s got more upside than Drew.

        At the very least, the fact he could likely be had for fodder/depth prices and would allow the team to stash a guy better than Brendan Ryan away somewhere means he’ll kick up a lot of interest here.

        • YakaTanaka

          It has to do with having more upside than Brendan Ryan, not Stephen Drew.

      • YakaTanaka

        Is he worse than Brendan Ryan? I would say maybe, maybe not. Worth a roster spot through spring training to find out? Probably. Brendan Ryan’s total failure the last two years at the plate may be a small sample, or he may be totally incapable of even standing in an MLB batters box at this point.

        Steamer projects Cabrera for 1.3 fWAR in 2015. Ryan is projected for 0.1. A couple of mill for a WAR is good value.

        I made it extremely clear that I viewed him as a backup with a little upside. Please don’t strawman me by acting like I said I expect another 2013. Given some of the starting SS options, a good backup could he pretty important. There is a lot of health and performance risk out there.

    • Kemajic

      Ryan is signed; Yanks would have to eat about $2.5 MM to replace him. Cabrera may well spend the year in jail.

      • YakaTanaka

        That’s a sunk cost and shouldn’t be factored into the decision. You would take both to spring training and only replace Ryan if Cabrera appears to be a better option. May even get Cabrera on a minor league deal amd stick him in AAA to start the season.

        Cabrera’s deal wouldn’t be guaranteed, but unless he assaulted the cop with the weapon there’s little chance of getting the maximum (or any) jail time for a first time resisting charge.

  • Rick Myles

    Another example of why the value of these draft picks is way over stated. More than half these 1st-2nd round picks never make it to the majors and half of the half that do don’t amount to anything.

    • YakaTanaka

      That does not mean the picks don’t have a lot of have a good deal of value.

      • Fernandito Andujar

        I agree. You could further argue that the picks carry value since it is comes with the slot money assigned to that pick. If you can sign some good players in the first ten rounds for below slot values, then those picks/slot money becomes useful. Teams can take chances on post tenth round talented guys with that extra slot money.