Hal indicates Yankees will lean towards rentals at trade deadline

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This isn’t particularly surprising: Hal Steinbrenner indicated the Yankees will lean towards acquiring rental players at the trade deadline this year while talking to Ken Davidoff earlier this week.“I’m not afraid to spend money. I never am. You know that. So when July rolls around, the trade deadline rolls around, we’re going to see where we’re really deficient and we’ll do what we can,” added Hal.

Over the last few years the Yankees have looked for long-term solutions in the offseason and band-aids at midseason. The most notable exceptions are Martin Prado and Alfonso Soriano — Prado had two years left on his contract at the time of the trade last year and Soriano had one year left when he was acquired in 2013, though the Cubs ate a ton of money to facilitate the trade. Brandon McCarthy, Chase Headley, Stephen Drew, Ichiro Suzuki, Lance Berkman, Jerry Hairston Jr. … all rentals.

There’s an obsession with team control years nowadays — “oh wow, that hard-throwing reliever is under team control through 2018? great trade!” (what are the odds that guy is even MLB caliber in 2018?) — and I think rentals have gotten undervalued in a sense. They typically don’t cost as much to acquire, there’s no long-term risk, and the player has every reason to be at his best given his impending free agency. Rentals are often good bargains.

The Yankees have clear needs on the middle infield — second base moreso than shortstop, they aren’t giving up on Didi Gregorius yet — and every team could use pitching, so I expect those to be the areas of focus. Here’s the list of upcoming free agents. Potential trade targets — guys who have a realistic chance to become available — include Ben Zobrist, Mike Aviles, Daniel Murphy, Bartolo Colon, Johnny Cueto, Doug Fister, Dan Haren, and Scott Kazmir, among others.

I don’t think the Yankees would steer clear of non-rental players this summer if the opportunity to acquire a longer term solution presents itself. The Prado trade showed that last year. Cole Hamels is obviously going to be available, and I think the Padres would give Jedd Gyorko away at this point (78 OPS+ since signing his six-year extension!), but otherwise I’m not sure who else would be a fit. Give it a few weeks and the market will develop.

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  • The Original Drew

    Colon has been really good for the Mets. I wouldn’t count on him being available unless there is a Beltran for Wheeler trade to be had. It is fun to speculate who the Yankees could get but as Mike alluded to, I don’t think there is a clear picture of who they are just yet.

    • Sir Didi Nakamura

      Only way he’s available is if the Mets fall out of the race.

    • http://riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Colon actually got bombed the last two times out. That’s what makes me nervous about him. I feel like it could go at any moment.

      • 86w183

        And he wasn’t very good the time before that — six innings, four ER. Last three starts 15 1/3 innings, 17 ER (9.98 ERA). He may finally be done.

      • The Original Drew

        I don’t thinking anyone believed he was going to keep his ERA under 3 all season. I would need to see more than 2 bad starts to think that he is completely done, though stranger things have happened!

        • 86w183

          You’re probably right, but he seems like the kind who could just go all at once.

        • Some Asshole

          Colon has been done before, too, so who really knows what’s underneath all that fat.

      • Asher Dratel

        If he doesn’t get to hit, it also decreases his value by like, 75%, at least.

        • Mandy Stankiewicz

          ….his entertainment value.

          • Asher Dratel

            What else is there?!

          • NYCORNERSTONE

            watching him race mccann

  • HoopDreams

    I think there will be that one Cash ninja move that sneaks under the radar. I could def see them landing Zobrist. Seems like a yankee deadline move

    • Dalek Jeter

      Yeah, I said a few days ago in a game thread that I think if the Yankees feel Refs isn’t ready come the ASB they’ll target Zobrist for DeCarr or Mitchell.

      • Barzini

        Makes sense. I’d throw Warren in with that groupe too. They love to target these back-end guys who can have more success in their ballpark than most other places.

        • Dalek Jeter

          I still want Warren in the pen, but it’s hard to not take a good hard look at Warren for Zobrist.

          • Barzini

            I’m saying he is someone who the A’s would likely have interest in.

            • 86w183

              That’s too high of a price for Zobrist who is currently injured and has not been as good the last 2+ seasons. Warren has a 3.68 ERA in his last five starts. Bryan Mitchell would be more reasonable.

              • Barzini

                Hmm..I’d probably do that. ~120wrc MIF’ers are really nice to have. This is, of course, assuming his rehab assignment goes according to plan, and he comes back and hits a litte, etc.

              • Bertin Lefkovic

                What would be the total cost for Clippard, Kazmir, and Zobrist if I am willing to build a package around Carpenter, Pirela, and Warren? Or would that be enough?

      • HoopDreams

        If that’s the case, I pull the trigger. It wouldn’t necessarily block Ref either as he can play everywhere

        • Dalek Jeter

          One of the reasons I like him so much. Late in games (if Ells is still injured) you can put Drew at 2nd and move Zobrist out to RF as a defensive replacement.

          • HoopDreams

            I have this vibe that Ells is gonna be gone for awhile, which of course sucks

            • Dalek Jeter

              Me too…there still hasn’t been any test results made available to the public…which isn’t all that comforting.

              • HoopDreams

                Zobrist can play CF right?

                • Dalek Jeter

                  SLADE HEATHCOTT COME ON DOWN!

                  Seriously though, if he had an MRI and it came back clean or only showing some deep bruising or something they’d put it out there right away right? My guess is he sprained something in the knee, MCL, ACL or Meniscus and is gonna be out at least a month.

                  • HoopDreams

                    Of course, I’d love to see Slade get a legit shot for awhile too. I haven’t heard really anything about Ells, like you said its been quite. I think all they released was a sprain

                • Some Asshole

                  Zobrist can play quarterback or cornerback.

                  http://img.gamefaqs.net/box/0/4/4/56044_front.jpg

            • Some Asshole

              Maybe not for long, but I foresee a recurrence or two. Leg injury on a leg guy? Ruh roh.

          • Bertin Lefkovic

            If the Yankees acquired Zobrist, is there a point this season where it would make sense to send Gregorius to AAA and bring up Refsnyder, mixing and matching between Drew, Refsnyder, and Zobrist at 2B and SS? Hard to imagine too many situations where it would make sense to replace Beltran in RF with Zobrist rather than Young in late-inning situations. Obviously, it would be great to have that option, but I would imagine using Zobrist mostly at 2B and at SS on days that Refsnyder started over Drew.

            • Dalek Jeter

              I’m of the mind that if the Yankees trade for Zobrist it’s because they don’t think Refsnyder is ready defensively and therefore won’t be called up. I think everybody should get comfortable with the idea of Didi Gregorius starting 120 games at SS, minimum.

              • Bertin Lefkovic

                Would it be a terrible idea to send Gregorius down, bring up Refsnyder, and give both a month for the former to get his bat and glove back on track and the latter to prove that he is ready for the show? By the time Zobrist is off the DL and a trade can be made, the Yankees will know much more than they do right now about both.

                • Dalek Jeter

                  By all accounts Didi’s defensive yips from earlier in the season have all but faded. He’s been very good out there, at least from what I’ve seen. It’s all about the bat…and it’s hard to figure out ML pitching facing a bunch of triple/quad A guys in Scranton.

                  • Bertin Lefkovic

                    You’re probably right, but maybe it would help him get his confidence back (or it could destroy it altogether).

            • http://shhhorsie.com Cheval Anonyme

              Does Didi even have options? I could be wrong, but I think he’s out.

              • Bertin Lefkovic

                Good point. I don’t know.

    • Preston

      I’d do the trade early. And I’d also try to make it a package deal with Kazmir (can’t ever have enough pitching). The A’s have the worst record in baseball. Beane is an aggressive and creative GM, he knows he can ask more if you get 100 games of them rather than 60. The great thing about Zobrist is he fits whatever hole emerges. Switch hitter that can play 1b, 2b, 3b, OF and even fake SS if need be, that fills any hole that arises. So getting him sooner than later would help.

      • HoopDreams

        I suck at this. So for BOTH Kaz and Zobrist. What would it be? Mitchell, maybe a Warren? That would be tough though as I like Warren a lot.

        • Preston

          No, I think it’s going to cost something you don’t want to give up. Not Judge/Severino. But something in the next group. Jagielo, Bird, Sanchez, then maybe Mitchell and a reliever.

          • Barzini

            You didn’t think they could land him for a VIdal Nuno?

            I have yet to stop laughing at that trade.

          • levendis

            So you’re saying something like Sanchez, Mitchell, and Ramirez would get Kazmir AND Zobrist? I feel like the As would ask and definitely land a better package.

            • HoopDreams

              Probably an ML reliever like a Shreve. Which would clear the way for Lindgren

              • levendis

                I would do that probably. I’m just not sure what Kazmir would demand on the market. Hes pitched well the past couple of years… but hes Scott Kazmir

            • Preston

              Zobrist and Escobar were just traded for Daniel Robertson (BAs 66th ranked prospect) John Jaso, and Boog Powell. I think Escobar is more valuable than Jaso, and Powell is a fringey prospect. So one top prospect is what a full season of Zobrist gets. I don’t see how half a season lands a top 100 guy. So I think a player in the next level would be the centerpiece. There might be more than a reliever needed to sweeten the deal.
              Kazmir I view the same as the half year of McCarthy. So team control of a useful 5th-6th starter. Mitchell certainly has a higher ceiling than Nuno (although also a lower floor). That was my thinking.

              • Dalek Jeter

                You also have to take into account the 75 name tool of Boog Powell though. I don’t know that the Yankees have even a fringy prospect with such a name tool.

                • Preston

                  Is there a way we can get Yeicok Calderon back?

              • levendis

                I think Kazmir is viewed as being more valuable than McCarthy simply because his results have been better even though McCarthy’s stuff was better.

        • Bertin Lefkovic

          Carpenter, Pirela, and Warren for Clippard, Kazmir, and Zobrist is probably the opening offer. It might take more than that. Not sure how much more.

  • jjyank

    Outside of a long term piece they might try to snag (like a Didi or Eovaldi type) I see them pretty much sticking with rentals. Makes sense to me. I don’t think the franchise is in a position to let top prospects go for risky veterans. If some of those prospects come up and have an impact in the next couple years, the bigger splashes make sense to compliment the core, but I don’t think the team is there yet.

  • The Original Drew

    If the Yankees didn’t have so much dead(ish) weight on the team already I don’t think that they would be so conservative when it comes to acquiring pieces. I think they really want to stick clear of long term contracts unless it is someone like Hamels that makes too much sense.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Edit…no he didn’t hint slade might start tonight, I got confused..never mind. Since it’s really hard to actually delete comments: What are the odds that The Mets would make Murphy available to the Yankees…and even if he did, would the Yankees want Murphy when they basically have their own potential Murphy in Scranton?

    • Mandy Stankiewicz

      Murph isn’t exactly setting the world on fire this year, I don’t think you give up anything of value for that guy–if the Mets blow it and its a salary dump, sure. But a no glove, .245 2B with marginal power isn’t going to move the needle in the Bronx. I’m not in the “Refs, now” camp, but I’d prefer giving him a shot to adding murph.

      • Barzini

        I think I’d be more inclined to put Pirela out there. Murphy really doesn’t do it. He’s a league average hitter at best at this point and the defense has always been ugly.

  • Stuart Phillips

    Iets. Face it ,he doesn’t want to spend. !!!

    • jjyank

      stuart p?

      • Mandy Stankiewicz

        The use of punctuation says yes.

        • dkidd

          an impressive amount of incorrect punctuation for only 8 words

          • Some Asshole

            Needs a semicolon, though.

            • Dalek Jeter

              and more ellipses.

              • The Great Gonzo

                An ill-timed ‘lol’ would cement it.

                • Dalek Jeter

                  Also something about a parade and a undeserved raise or bonus.

                  • jjyank

                    this was a punch and judy comment…lol…

                    …..
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                    .
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                    ….
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              • jjyank

                And parades…

              • Mandy Stankiewicz

                The ellipse was stuart’s trademark, every single comment was like the last sentence of an RL Stein book you’ve read in 6th grade:
                “Throw tex a parade if he can even walk….”

                …WHAT HAPPENS NEXT, STUART???

            • I am Brett Godner

              Never ever use a semicolon. Kurt Vonnegut says so.

              • Some Asshole

                Eh…Vonnegut can kiss my ass. I love semicolons!

                • I am Brett Godner

                  You shut your whore mouth. KV rules.

                  “Here is a lesson in creative writing. First rule: Do not use semicolons. They are transvestite hermaphrodites representing absolutely nothing. All they do is show you’ve been to college.”

                  ? Kurt Vonnegut

                  • Looser Trader FotD™

                    Whoever wrote this doesn’t know the first thing about Kurt Vonnegut!

                    • I am Brett Godner

                      Kurt Vonnegut wrote that. Granted it was at the very end of his life so maybe he forgot a lot about himself by that point, but its hard to say that even then he didn’t know the first thing about Kurt Vonnegut. In fact he was very close to being the only one who knew the very last thing about Kurt Vonnegut at that point.

                    • Looser Trader FotD™

                      Yes, true.

                      Also, it was a Back To School reference.

                    • I am Brett Godner

                      Haha. Totally missed that at the time. It’s been years

                  • Barzini

                    Fuck that.

  • MTU

    Ian Desmond.

    • Dalek Jeter

      Why? For both sides, why is that a good trade?

      • MTU

        We can use a SS who can hit.

        • Preston

          Okay, but why are the Nationals trading him? I know Mets fans are excited, but the Nats have already made up all the early season ground they’d ceded. They have to be considered the favorites in that division again. And playoff bound teams don’t usually trade all-star players mid-season.

          • MTU

            I’d heard rumors in the the past that he won’t re-sign w the Nats and wants to test FA.
            They tried to extend him and failed.

            • Dalek Jeter

              That doesn’t mean they’re going to trade on of the better offensive SS during a year where they’re the best team on paper unless they’re getting an everyday SS back.

              • MTU

                You’re right. I don’t know.
                It was just a thought.
                Maybe a lousy one.
                I’ve posted a few of those before.
                :)

                • Robinson Tilapia

                  :)

            • jjyank

              I assume they’d still like to try to win a championship this year, regardless of what Desmond has said regarding free agency.

              • MTU

                Do they have other options in the Minors ?

                • Y’s Guy

                  Rendon is on the DL, but there is no schedule on when he’s coming back at this point.

                  • MTU

                    There you go.
                    Thanks for bailing me out.
                    Got to run.

                    • Y’s Guy

                      Coming into this year, Espinoza was considered the odd man out, but he’s hitting well of late. Until/unless Rendon gets back they aren’t going to move anyone, though.

                  • Dalek Jeter

                    Rendon’s a 2B/3B though. I guess they could move Yunel to SS after he comes back, but I think they want to put Yunel at 2B, and Rendon at 3B. I can’t think of any situation where they’d want to trade Desmond. They’re deep as any team in SP, their outfield is very good on both sides of the ball, I guess maybe back of the bullpen…but unless you’re getting a top flight closer plus a few prospects, I don’t see the sense of trading a good offensive SS for bullpen help.

                    • Y’s Guy

                      The plan as of the Yankee series was that Rendon would become the 2B when he comes back and they’re going to leave Escobar at 3B. However Escobar has 11 errors already, so that definitely can change. I’d expect that the guys who would be available would be Espinosa and Uggla once everyone’s back.

                    • The Great Gonzo

                      TRADE FOR TEH UGGLAZ!

                    • Bertin Lefkovic

                      Drew for Uggla? Would the offensive gain outweigh the defensive loss? Probably not.

            • Robinson Tilapia

              A non-contending team would look to trade him, then. A contending team wouldn’t.

              • Some Asshole

                Washington is gonna sell at any moment! Then, all their players will be ours….

            • The Great Gonzo

              “All In”

              What are the Nationals?

        • Dalek Jeter

          So can the team that currently has him, the team that’s already a virtual lock to make the playoffs (97.3%) and currently has the highest odds of going to the world series (19.3%) according to fangraphs.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          They can choose to continue to contend.

    • HoopDreams

      MT, I would sacrifice Desmond’s glove for his bat any day of the week. Tex at 1st would sure save him some errors I’m sure

      • MTU

        He’s a rental.

    • Chip

      Upton, Zimmermann and Desmond.

  • Dalek Jeter

    How long is Gyorko’s extension?

    • 86w183

      Four years after this one plus an option. $ 33 M guaranteed I think.

      • Dalek Jeter

        Geez…no thanks. He had a good rookie year, especially in terms of power, but it looks like the league adjusted to him and he never adjusted back…even his good rookie year was basically 2012 Drew with a bit less OBP and a bit more power. Do not want him clogging up a roster spot until 2020.

        • http://shhhorsie.com Cheval Anonyme

          He’s not even a good second baseman. He was a third-baseman throughout the minors. Only 20% more chances at 2B than Refs. Fewer errors, but worse range. More power, but worse on-base.

          • Y’s Guy

            They announced a couple of weeks ago that Rendon would come back at 2B.

        • The Great Gonzo

          What are you talking about? Signing all the youth to all the extensions is the only way to win!

          • Looser Trader FotD™

            All your youths are belong to us!

  • blake

    screw you Hal.

    • Austinmac

      Ditto.

    • Chip

      Just curious – what’s wrong with the plan?

      If the Yankees have another June/July where they give up nothing and get back quality players that they can then evaluate for half a season and decide whether to keep or jettison after the season like they did last year…sounds reasonable to me.

      • Some Asshole

        Nothing implied the “screw you, Hal” had anything to do with the potential trade market. It might just be an utterance, which, could be worthwhile to say in any context.

        • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

          The screw you is from the future.
          Blake is just ahead of his time.

  • HoopDreams

    Murphy is as good as gone from.the Mets after this year. However I wonder if the Yankees would venture signing him if They feel Ref can’t cut it, but Ref is like…Murphy Jr in a sense. Again, this is like 5 months away

    • anon_coward

      he can hit ok, but his defense is pretty bad

      • http://shhhorsie.com Cheval Anonyme

        I really don’t understand the idea of picking up a “decent hit, bad defense” second-bagger. We are already home-growing those.

        • anon_coward

          Murphy is a Minaya guy and the way a die hard Mets fan explained it to me he was originally a 3rd baseman but was put at 2nd because he came on after David Wright. supposedly the Mets had drafted a bunch of 3rd basemen and put them in other positions. same with Duda. he bounced around until they got rid of Ike Davis even though 1st base was his natural position

          And the Mets aren’t letting him go because they are cheap,they have Dilson Herrera playing at the majors now with a lot more years of control and who is supposed to be better than Murph

  • NYCORNERSTONE

    LOL go into the clubhouse and break some chairs Halliary

  • The Original Drew

    A bit off topic but Yankees dot com has Chris Young as the Starting LF and CF on the depth chart. Maybe the Yankees need to trade for an OF now!

    • Some Asshole

      Nah, he’s got it. More interesting is that Heathcott is above Gardner in left.

  • brznks

    I may be missing something, but where in that quote does Hal say he’s leaning towards rentals?

    • Dalek Jeter

      Just the entire feel of the post article. He talks about being willing to add salary but wants to hold onto top prospects. The best way make the team better while maintaining your top prospects is by trading for players with expiring or shorter remaining contracts, as the prospect cost for those guys is usually lower. (See Martin Prado for Peter O’Brien. or Brandon McCarthy for Vidal Nuno)

      • HoopDreams

        I still can’t believe all McCarthy cost was a soft tossing 4A pitcher

        • Dalek Jeter

          Absolutely blows my mind. The Yankees got a solid mid rotation guy (who pitched well above that) and a starting ML player for a quad A pitcher and a catcher who can’t catch and who was having problems with minor league breaking balls. Amazing.

          • Some Asshole

            Remember all the butthurt when he signed with the Dodgers?

            • Asher Dratel

              I was pissed.

              • Some Asshole

                I could see lamenting the opportunity, but that contract….

                • Asher Dratel

                  I was pissed that the Yankees didn’t even talk to him. Bullet dodged, etc, but I will fully admit to being completely baffled at the decision when it was made.

                  • Looser Trader FotD™

                    Yeah. Extremely luck result. Baffling process.

            • Dalek Jeter

              Oh yes. And I was upset…but 4 years for McCarthy was always ridiculous. heck…anything over 2 was asking for trouble.

              • The Great Gonzo

                As it turns out, anything over 2 months was a ripoff…

              • Looser Trader FotD™

                Yeah. I was hoping 2 expecting 3. But 4??? Cr?-cr?

            • Looser Trader FotD™

              Still stings. He’s SO GOOD on the DL!!

        • Y’s Guy

          He was 3-10 with a 5.01 ERA with an injury history when the trade was made. Now he’s out for another 18 months.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    And here I thought they were about to assume the remainder of Clayton Kershaw’s contract. Silly fish.

    • captainmike

      stop wasting our time reading your stupid comments please

      • Some Asshole

        Piss off, little man. Go back to Wikipedia for your analysis.

        • HoopDreams

          Something something Solarte

          • Some Asshole

            I had a dream about holding up a department store and everybody there was Solarte.

            • HoopDreams

              Headley attempted to stop you, but he made an error

              • Some Asshole

                Genuine laughter. Luckily I’m hiding behind these felt cube walls.

                • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

                  We still have a clear shot at you.

                  • Some Asshole

                    Thank God for that.

            • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

              Malkovich, Malkovich….

        • Robinson Tilapia

          I’m on day one of a ten-day family vacation, and he’s sitting at home trying to rub off on someone he doesn’t like on the Internet with more friends. I win.

          • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

            How do you get to take monthly vacations?

          • Some Asshole

            God damn that sounds nice. Have fun.

      • http://shhhorsie.com Cheval Anonyme

        I’m taking up a collection to pay for your increased medications.

        • Some Asshole

          I’d want to know the possible side effects and the chances of said side effects before I chip in.

      • Sir Didi Nakamura

        Yeah stop wasting our time pretending to be the great King fish of the RAB sea. You’re just below the King, get your ego in check.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          This is what I get for acknowledging him at all.

          When you roll with pigs, you get dirty……or something.

      • Alkaline

        Lol

  • Some Asshole

    Why isn’t he trying to sign next year’s free agents today!? Hal is teh cheep. Going to the Redbox Baseball Player stand will cost in the long run if they forget to bring him back by 9 PM.

  • whileaway

    If the Pirates fall out of contention ,I´d keep an eye on what they´re going to do with Mercer and Walker.

    • Barzini

      Not playing well now, but I personally think that is still arguably the best team in that division.

      • whileaway

        I had them as the WC team but I don´t think it´s happening. I don´t see the Cards or Cubs going away.

        • Y’s Guy

          I’m not sold on the Cubs yet, but the Bucs have spotted the Cards an 8.5G lead, I dont see them overtaking St.Louis.

    • The Original Drew

      It would never happen but I personally would like to see an AJ Burnett reunion!

  • Chip

    Just looking at the list of upcoming FA and thinking about the team’s needs and where other teams are in their respective years, expense in terms of players and here are some potential targets:

    SP
    Dan Haren
    Yovani Gallardo
    Mike Pelfrey
    Cory Luebke
    Mike Leake

    MINF
    Mike Aviles

    • Some Asshole

      Aviles intrigues me, but I don’t see a place for him if your pick of Drew/Ryan/Pirela/Refsnyder is on the team.

      • Chip

        I would think Aviles would replace Drew (and clearly Ryan). In fact you could probably include Drew in the swap for Aviles much like they did with Kelly Johnson.

    • Dalek Jeter

      Aviles gets a solid “Meh” from me. He’s a BUIF…we already have 3 of them under contract in Pirela, Drew, and Ryan. If we trade for MI help, get a starter plz.

      As for the starters…Leake, yes. The rest of them get a “meh.”

      • Chip

        Well I think you would Brian Roberts either or both of Drew and Ryan if you get Aviles (in fact you might be able to swap Drew as part of the deal like they did Kelly Johnson last year).

        Since I don’t believe the Yankees are going to make a move for a SS that means 2b. There are four “starting” 2b who are FA after this year:
        Zobrist
        Kendrick
        Asdrubal Cabrera
        Dan Murphy

        Zobrist is currently hurt, has been trending the wrong way for years now and Beane’s going to want a top player for him.

        Dodgers aren’t going to trade Kendrick

        Tampa’s not going to trade Cabrera to the Yankees

        Mets aren’t going to trade Murphy to anyone because Sandy makes trades almost as frequently Bartolo Colon hits home runs.

      • Some Asshole

        He’s a less horrible Ryan, which is the intriguing part. But Ryan has been sent to the witness protection program.

        • Austinmac

          He’ll play if it’s not too hot.

    • Preston

      I think Mike Leake makes a lot of sense. Although he’s had a drop in velocity in strikeouts in the early going this year. But if scouts think he’s fine, his GB tendancies fit the stadium nicely. And he’s only 27, so it might be a nice audition to see if you want to lock up a young starter through his prime years.

      • Chip

        Yes, and anyone who is able to keep the ball in Great American Launching Pad is worth taking a look at.

  • dkidd

    i hate every word that comes out of hal’s smug and punchable mouth, but sticking to rentals in order to keep first-tier prospects makes sense right now (assuming we can use his past comments to read between the lines of this latest quote)

  • Chip

    Well, Justin Upton, technically, would be a rental.

    Gardner, Jags and Brady Lail for Upton, Solarte and Andrew Cashner

    • Dalek Jeter

      Solarte alone will at least cost Severino.

      • Chip

        Come on now, I’m not part of the Solarte is Cooperstown Bound crowd – but he would be a substantial upgrade over Drew at 2b and plays more solid defense than Refsnyder.

        • Dalek Jeter

          I know, I was just joking about the Solarte love…in theory I would do that trade, especially if Ells was healthy. With Ells on the shelf though, I don’t want to trade Gardner.

        • Barzini

          Solarte has been SO BAD since the start of May. Unfortunately, that would still be an offensive upgrade over Drew.

          • Y’s Guy

            .231/.275/.277 in May.

            • Barzini

              And Drew is at 186/250/254…how I long for the 90s.

              • Looser Trader FotD™

                My kingdom for offense!

        • Austinmac

          Talk about a low bar.

          • Chip

            the bar is where it is, I’m just looking for improvements and Aviles would be one. Keep in mind that when the Yankees traded for guys like McCarthy and Prado they were looking for players who would represent upgrades from Vidal Nuno and Ichiro.

        • Preston

          He had a hot start to the year (again), but has been awful the past month (.233/.275/.277). And he’s an awful defender.

    • dkidd

      solarte returning to the yankees could lead to bigdan returning to this site
      it’s too big a risk

      • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

        Only if he’s still alive..

      • I am Brett Godner

        He’s still here.

        • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

          Can you prove it?

          • I am Brett Godner

            Nope, but I might be able to support it.

    • Centaur Hips

      The rest of that deal is just an excuse to trade Gardy for Upton.

      • Dalek Jeter

        no….yes.

      • Chip

        Yeah, not really – getting Andrew Cashner would be pretty friggin awesome.

  • megax

    Quick need fantasy help was offered Chris sale for cespedes , do I pull the trigger

    • Chip

      yes

      • Y’s Guy

        probably, depends on the rest of your roster.

        • Y’s Guy

          Cockroft has Sale at #30 and Cespedes at #58 on last weeks 5×5 rankings. I think Cespedes is a little high, too, because he’s inconsistent.

    • Deep Thoughts

      I don’t even do fantasy or rotisserie stuff and that is a no-brainer “Yes.” Unless we’re talking about soft-tossing LOOGY Ken Cespedes.

    • Dalek Jeter

      Unless your OF is Hanley, Trout, Harper, and Cespedes is on your bench and your rotation is like Kershaw, Felix, Sherzer, Kluber, and Pineda YES make that trade.

    • Some Asshole

      Heck, I’d throw in the Cespedes Family BBQ for Sale.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Caja China style.

      • Looser Trader FotD™

        Let’s not get crazy here Asshole

        • Some Asshole

          Them’s good eatin’, but it’s hard to pass up a Sale.

    • The Great Gonzo

      ALL DAY LONG

      • Some Asshole

        And twice on Tuesdays, which gets you two Chris Sales. It’s the Sale Sale.

        • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

          Did you say Sale? Call Hal ASAP.

    • Alkaline

      Yes I would in a heart beat

    • Robinson Tilapia

      You don’t need help. You need to click “yes.”

      • ropeadope1

        As do you.

  • Centaur Hips

    They put themselves in a tough spot at the deadline. Where do they upgrade? 2B despite Ref? SP despite Nova and Tanaka returning? They’re locked in at too many spots.

    • Y’s Guy

      I would have no problem with them bringing in a ‘rental’ at 2B, SS or SP. You can’t let blocking a ‘maybe’ prospect or a possible injury comeback from improving your team in the short term when you have a chance.

      • Centaur Hips

        I can see them bringing in a 2B since Ref isn’t a top prospect, but what’s out there? I can’t see any of the SPs they have besides Warren and Capuano being pushed out of the rotation so someone would have to be injured by the end of July to make a trade since they have 7 starters.

        • Y’s Guy

          You are making a pretty big assumption on Nova being both healthy and effective. I will believe that when I see it, not before. And you’re even adding on top of that the assumption that everybody else, including Tanaka will be healthy, not a good bet from where I’m standing. And finally, even if everyone is healthy, you are assuming that nothing better than Capuano would be available.

          • Centaur Hips

            Capuano probably wouldn’t be in the rotation if everyone’s healthy. Tanaka Pineda Eovaldi CC Nova. It’s likely that one of those guys is out by then though, yeah. Feels like the only way they could make a move barring something unexpected.

  • blake

    Jesse Sanchez @JesseSanchezMLB · May 20

    One international scout here in Panama told me Cuban OF prospect Eddy Julio Martinez reminded him of a young Andruw Jones.”He’s legit, man.”

    Sources tell me Yankees have shown interest but it’s uncertain if EJM will sign during current period or the next.

    The Yankees might have interest if he reminded them of an old Andruw Jones and they could get him for 1 million dollars on a one year deal.

    • Austinmac

      We always have interest, but not money.

      • blake

        Hal cares about compound interest.

        • Some Asshole

          But not compound Cubans.

          • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

            Yet there are Cubans somewhere in compounds.

        • ropeadope1

          At today’s rates, the compounding effect is nil. NIL I say!

    • Barzini

      “He’s legit, man.”

      Well that really says it all…

    • Chip

      In fairness to Hal, if he’s not available until after July 2 there’s not a damn thing he can do about it.

  • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

    Sure he can rent Prado again but what does that tell you?
    When we find a good piece like a Justice, we made sure we kept him.
    Somehow renting could become a merry-go-round.

  • bernbabybern

    Only upgrades I see are possibly Zobrist who will not be cheap, maybe a starter if someone is injured or Nova can’t go, or a middle reliever. Other than that, SS, but Hal is too cheap and very much not a risk taker for Tulo. He is going to hang his hat on Didi come hell or high water.

    • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

      Hal is too cheap? But McCann, Ellsbury, Tanaka something something…

      • Austinmac

        So you think he will go after an expensive player? I don’t.

        • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

          I mock . Mick mocks. There is a faction that believes he’s not cheap. I am not one of them. They will say he is just looking for value. A smart businessman unlike his father.

          He will never win as many as George won. He will be the 80’s George but he may make more money and be happy with that.

      • Tar

        I call and raise you a Drew, Roberts, and Stewie!

    • Bertin Lefkovic

      Why won’t Zobrist be cheap? He is coming off of an injury and only has a few months left on his deal. Considering the salary relief being offered to the As, I think that the Yankees could get Clippard, Kazmir, and Zobrist for Carpenter, Pirela, and Warren (maybe even Mitchell instead of Warren).

      • bernbabybern

        LOL

      • W.B. Mason Williams

        High fantasy

      • mrpappageorgio1 .

        While we’re at it, let’s trade Mason Williams for Mike Trout

        • Bertin Lefkovic

          Which of the three players that I am looking to get are even remotely as valuable as Mike Trout? If I am offering too little for these players, please tell me how much I should be expected to give up for them. The As are dumping salary and getting decent players in return. This offer seems right up Beane’s alley.

        • mrpappageorgio1 .

          Kazmir is going to be a hot commodity at the trade deadline, so competition for him will be fierce. Zobrist’s value is greater than his stat line given his defensive flexibility, which will also be in demand. Clippard is not going to be cheap, and you aren’t getting Clippard for Carpenter and his 5.28 ERA – he’s pitched himself out of any real value this year. Warren is a fringe big league starter/middle of the bullpen arm, and Pirela is a part time player. So you’re thinking a solid #2 starter, late inning reliever, and multiple + infield defensive position, above average bat FOR a reliever who can’t get anyone out at the moment, back-end of the rotation starter, and utility man? Hmmmm, tell me more about why this makes sense for Bean.

  • RetroRob

    No surprising at all. Trying to figure out the market is difficult. Headley, McCarthy, Prado and Drew, and later claiming Young, certainly weren’t being discussed last year, in many cases because they were underperforming and fans like to think a rental superstar is coming in, which rarely happens. Four out of the five from last year were productive. (I won’t bother pointing out the non-productive one). Expect a similar approach this year.

    • Some Asshole

      But we really want to know the non-productive one! Tell us the answer, teach. THE DRAMA!!!

      • ropeadope1

        Does he need to Drew you a picture?

    • bernbabybern

      I don’t think that success rate is sustainable though.

      • Preston

        Those trades were successes the day they were made. They traded Peter O’Brien, Vidal Nuno, Yangervis Solarte, Rafael DePaula and Kelly Johnson. Solarte is probably the most valuable piece there. And he’s something between solid bench piece or below average starting infielder. Buying low on rentals doesn’t have a lot of downside.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          And Solarte is fucking GOD or something.

          • SweetSpot

            Well if you read the damn blog more you would know that and wouldn’t be so surprised! His sweat is being sold as holy water, want to go halfsies?

        • bernbabybern

          Not much downside, but you’re not always going to get what they got.

      • RetroRob

        I’d be shocked if he pulled that off again.

    • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

      Just the fact that there hat many holes last year that needed patching is an indictment of how the team is being run. I can see a missing piece here and there but wholesale changes? Hal is looking to get younger b/c it’s cheaper. Winning is secondary.

  • gageagainstthemachine

    Asking an owner to speak specifically and unambiguously to issues like these is like asking a politician to do the same regarding their views on issues while on the campaign trail. Rhetoric reigns supreme in both instances.

  • SweetSpot

    Brian: “You tell them what you decided to do Hal. I just work here. Want a latte?”

    • Chip

      Until an owner decides to name himself General Manager there’s not a single one in the game who operates with total autonomy.

      For what it’s worth, I don’t think Cashman would want to look at long term guys via midseason trades.

      Long before Hal got here, Brian was using in-season trades for patches with a few exceptions (Bobby Abreu being the big one that jumps to mind). He’s often gone on record as saying that the prices for players during the season are insane and he’s not a fan of double paying for a player. That’s especially true now that there are fewer teams doing salary dump trades in the middle of the year.

  • UnKnown

    Hal can go Fuck himself

  • LazerTown

    I disagree Mike that Rentals are good bargains. The reason why team control is a big deal is because you end up spending way more in prospect value trying to patch up every year. How much do you think someone like Cueto would cost? Pineda cost Montero, AND after this year they still got him for another 2 years.

  • calripyankee

    Just make sure, no J Paredes type prospects for L Berkman type players.. Then again, getting out of NY and their love affair with old washed up, other team’s stars, was probably the best thing to ever happen to him.. At least he gets a chance to play..