Jul
14

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Anyone know if there’s a way to watch a replay/archived version of Joba’s start on CN8? Thanks in advance…

Triple-A Scranton (7-3 win over Louisville)
Brett Gardner: 2 for 4, 3 R, 1 RBI, 2 BB, 1 SB – on base 8 times in 3 games with Scranton
Justin Christian: 1 for 5, 1 R, 1 RBI, 1 BB, 1 K, 1 SB – threw a runner out at the plate
Kevin Reese: 3 for 4, 1 R, 1 RBI
Shelley Duncan: 0 for 1, 4 BB, 1 SB – getting the Bonds treatment…how does a guy get walked 4 times and not come around to score even once?
Angel Chavez: 3 for 5, 1 R
Eric Duncan & Chris Basak: both 1 for 5 – Duncan K’ed twice and was caught stealing…Basak K’ed once
Andy Cannizaro & Raul Chavez: both 2 for 5, 1 R, 1 K – Cannizaro made a throwing error
Ross Ohlendorf: 5 IP, 8 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, 1 HB
Ben Kozlowski: 2 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 3 K

Double-A Trenton (6-2 win over New Hampshire)
Colin Curtis & Alberto Gonzalez: both 1 for 3, 1 R, 1 BB
Cody Ehlers: 1 for 4, 1 R, 1 HR, 3 RBI – only 34 RBI so far this year after 106 last year
Noah Hall & Matt Carson: both 1 for 4, 1 R – Carson K’ed twice
Bronson Sardinha: 2 for 4, 1 R, 1 HR, 3 RBI, 1 SB – 2 homers & 7 RBI in 3 games with Trenton
Joba Chamberlain: 7 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 9 K, 7-5 GB/FB – 57 K in 34.2 IP with Trenton
Gerardo Casadiego: 0.1 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 0 BB, 0 K
Scott Patterson: 1.2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 4 K – in other news, Kyle Farnsworth coughed up another homer tonight

High-A Tampa (8-0 win over St. Lucie)
Austin Jackson: 1 for 4, 2 R, 1 RBI
Jose Tabata: 2 for 4, 2 R, 1 RBI, 1 SB – 103 hits in 79 games
Edwar Gonzalez: 3 for 3, 1 R, 1 3B, 1 BB, 1 SB
Chris Malec: 3 for 4, 2 RBI
Marcos Vechionacci: 0 for 4 – 2 for his last 32 with 7 K
Kevin Russo: 2 for 3, 2 R, 1 HR, 1 RBI, 1 BB
Phil Coke: 9 IP, 8 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 5 K, 13-9 GB/FB – I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure this is the first 9 inning complete game in the minors for the Yanks this year

Low-A Charleston was washed out. No word on a makeup date.

Short Season Staten Island (4-2 win over Vermont)
Justin Snyder: 1 for 2, 1 R, 1 RBI, 1 BB, 1 HBP – threw a runner out at second while playing CF
Luis Nunez: 1 for 4, 1 R, 1 2B, 1 RBI
Damon Sublett & Jose Gil: combined 0 for 7 – Sublett got plunked…Gil K’ed
Austin Krum: 2 for 3, 1 R, 1 BB, 1 SB
Braedyn Pruitt: 1 for 3, 1 BB – returning from injury
Ryan Pope: 3 IP, 3 H, 0 $, 0 ER, 2 BB, 0 K – surprise 3rd rounder makes his pro debut after signing for $229,500, which I’m pretty sure is below slot…
Nick Chigges: 4 IP, 6 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, 1 WP – 34 K in 25.2 IP

Rookie GCL Yanks (5-0 win over GCL Tigers)
Abe Almonte: 1 for 3, 1 R, 1 BB, 1 K, 1 E (fielding) - 7 for his last 20
Zoilo Almonte: 1 for 4, 1 RBI
Ryan Wehrle & Brandon Laird: combined 0 for 7 – Wehrle walked, K’ed and was caught stealing
Kelvin Castro: 3 for 4, 1 R, 2 2B – 9 hits (including 4 doubles & a triple) in his last 6 games
Gerardo Rodriguez: 1 for 3, 1 R, 1 2B, 1 RBI, 1 BB, 1 K
Ben Blumenthal: 2 for 4, 1 2B, 1 K
Tim Dennehy: 5 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 2 K, 10-2 GB/FB – 40-9 GB/FB ratio
Manny Barreda: 4 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 4 K, 5-2 GB/FB – 23 K in 17.1 IP

Categories : Down on the Farm
  • ShawnT

    Thanks for the cn8 link, gr8 to finnaly see Jobba the Hutt pitch, and cheers to the great pitching talent out of school of art and design

  • Joe

    Mike, Joba’s numbers are pretty mind boggling. How close is the relationship between the numbers pitchers put up in the minors related to the numbers pitchers put up in the majors? Obviously the talent in the major’s is better than the talent in the minor’s, but Joba is destroying the competition. I look throughout the Yankees system and it seems like there is a guy on each team putting up pretty good numbers each night. I find it difficult to believe that the yankees suddenly have this many good pitchers in their system. Is it possible that the yankees have assembled this much talent this quickly, in what is maybe two years of focus on the farm system? Sorry for the length, but Joba is insane right now.

  • http://riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Minor league numbers a decent predictor for ML success. I never take the numbers completely to heart (see Clippard, Tyler), but if you see a guy with a 100-10 K/BB ratio, or a guy with a 60-7 GB/FB ratio, you can get a pretty good idea of what kind of pitcher he is. However, it’s not often you see a guy with crappy minor league numbers go up to bigs and have success. It can be tricky, but just make sure you understand the process behind the performance; Joba is doing it with a hard fastball and a nasty breaking ball (very good chance to translate to the bigs), while Clip mostly did it with smoke and mirrors (not a good chance to carry over).

    It’s pretty amazing how the Yanks have picked up so much pitching depth in such a short time. But remember that the attrition rate for pitchers is pretty high, so even with all the guys tearing it up now, only a fraction will make it to the bigs and have an impact.

    I dunno about you all out there, but I’m really starting to fall in love with Scott Patterson (in a heterosexual way). The Indy ball refugee comes right over the top of his 6’7″ frame with a mid-high 90s fastball; it looks like it’s dropping right out of the sky. He may be 27, but they don’t check IDs out on the field.

  • Marc

    wheres the link to jobas game?

  • Stuart

    Great post Mike…

    any chance Myers goes bye bye???

    they need to add to the bench

  • http://www.replacementlevel.com Sean McNally

    Mike – When did the Attorney General get impeached to Double-A?

  • NYFan50

    Mike, you think there’s any chance Joba makes it to AAA by the end of the season? I’m thinking ahead to ’08 and wondering who our 5th starter is going to be. Assuming Pettitte picks up his option, it’s Wang, Hughes, Mussina (last year), Pettitte (last year) and…Igawa, it looks like. That rotation might look a whole lot better with Joba as the #5.

  • Mike R.

    I have a feeling that come spring 2008 we’re going to have a replay of what happened in spring training this year with the 5th starter role. Does everyone remeber the debate about will Hughes earn the 5th starter spot, Cashman stating that he wasn’t going to interrupt their development plan unless it was an emergency, etc.

    Just replace Hughes for Joba and recycle the stories.

  • Andrew

    Sean, Andy Cannizaro took his spot in Scranton. I think the next swap will most likely be Eric Duncan and Juan Miranda.

  • zack

    the 5th starter going in to net year will be between Igawa (if still around), Karstens, Rasner, Clippard, White etc (depending on who is still around). Remember, Joba needs to build up arm strength. While I dont agree with innings limits per se, for Joba, he hasnt pitched for very long and could use some caution. But, that being said, if he continues at this pace, by mid-season next year it will be hard to keep him in the minors…

  • C-Note

    off the subject, but it’s nice to see ABE almonte starting to do his thing it the GCL, heard such glowing reports of him for so long- Jose Reyes but with more power(but no glove)

    with Tabata, Action Jackson, Miranda, and to a certain extent Brett G, how long can the yankee system be labeled as having NO position players—it did produce Melky & Cano the last couple of years, right?

  • James

    I have no doubt that Joba will be up next year in May or June of next year. There’s no holding him back. And from what I saw on CN8 (sorry, I know of no link) last night, the numbers are completely legit. Hard #1 to all corners including blowing hitters away up high following the same pitch at the knees. The hard slider is very nice, esp to LHB – just drops off the table right under their hands. And he even had a slower breaking pitch that had the same angle and drop as the slider but with less speed.

    Good stuff!

  • James

    With Gardner breaking out, I wonder if Melky is expendable. Problem is, if Melky has even close to a .500 SLG for the rest of the season, you have to wonder if he could turn into an Abreu/Drew type RF.

  • Rick in Boston

    If anyone has a BaseballAmerica.com subscription, check out the mid-season organizational reports. The Yankees beat writer for it (George King of the Post) has Ian Kennedy as the top performing Yankees prospect so far.

    If Kennedy makes it to the show with Joba, then we could be looking at Wang/Hughes/Chamberlain/Kennedy…how many teams would like to have a Mike Mussina “clone” as a #4 starter?

  • http://jeteupthemiddle.blogspot.com Jeteupthemiddle

    So is Chamberlain gonna get the Hughes treatment this year, or will he be allowed to be promoted to AAA even though he started in Tampa since he is, you know, completely dominating it?

  • chris

    http://web.minorleaguebaseball...../video.jsp

    you have to pay but you can watch archieved footage change the date to 7/14 I believe they offer a monthly at $9.99

  • chris

    actually they have a daily for $3.95

  • James

    I’m betting Hughes treatment for Joba most especially because it’s his first year. Thought the organization guidelines were, by year:

    1st: 130 innings
    2nd: 165 innings
    3rd: 200 innings

    I remember reading that somewhere recently. Was it here?

    What’s weird though is that Kennedy is already over 100 innings. So if they stick to their guidelines with him, he only has 6 more starts, if that.

  • zack

    I think Hughes is a different case b/c he came out of high school, not college, so he was younger with less innings. Kennedy has three years of Pac-10 baseball innings. Although its not a ton, its enough to bump him up to at least 165 most likely. Joba is interesting b/c he hasn’t pitched for all that long…

  • James

    Good point Zack. Still Kennedy’s career high is 104 IP (with two in Staten Island). And Chamberlain is 118 in 2005.

  • Marc

    Mike,
    Tough (possibly) question for you… You’re Brian Cashman at the trade deadline… the braves come to you with an offer of Marquez and Kennedy, or Horne and Marquez for Saltalamacchia… woudl you do it.. an what pitchers aside from joba and Franchise would you part with to get a young catcher as good as salty?

  • http://riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Thanks for the heads up about milb.tv chris, even though I already knew Joba went 7 strong, my heart still skipped a beat when he took that liner off the foot in the 2nd. RAB fave Keith Law emailed me during the game with this: “I’m in Trenton. Joba 94-98 tonight. filthy.” Says it all right there.

    RE: Myers
    I’d love to see him go as much as the next guy, but I have a feeling we’re stuck with him. If your LOOGY can’t get lefties out, what’s the point in having him around???

    RE: Joba to AAA
    The performance warrants a promotion, but I think they’ll play it safe and keep him (and Kennedy) in Trenton the rest of the year. He’ll start next year in Scranton, and probably force his way to the bigs by June, July the latest.

  • http://riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    I’d pull the trigger on a Horne & Marquez for Salty deal. I like Alan Horne as much as the next guy, but I think Kennedy’s got a better chance to have a long, impactful career in the bigs (is impactful a word? oh well). John Scheurholz wouldn’t do either deal though.

    If you look around the baseball, the only good young (say 27 yrs old or younger) catchers are Mauer, Martin, McCann, Salty, Miguel Montero and Kurt Suzuki. I’d trade anybody in the organization if the deal was right – yes, Phil & Joba too – but those last 3 catchers (the first 3 are as untouchable as it gets) aren’t exactly franchise cornerstones (maybe Salty).

    Alan Horne is the best pitcher I’d be willing to give up in a realistic deal for a young catcher, and I wouldn’t consider dealing any more than 2 of the “B” arms for a catcher.

  • ShawnT

    YOu would trade hughes or joba for a catcher?

  • James

    What I don’t understand about all this pitching, I count 12 “prospects” in order of trading value:

    Joba
    Kennedy
    Clippard
    Horne
    DeSalvo
    Rasner
    Karstens
    Marquez
    White
    Coke
    Wright
    Ohlendorf

    Why the Yanks haven’t moved some of those, even by starting at the bottom of the list, is beyond me. There’s no chance all of them could find a place in the Bronx and their respective values are pretty high. There are C (Ianetta? Clement?)and 1B (Carter? Votto?) prospects out there that could be had for two from that list.

  • James

    Meanwhile Horne getting lit up – 3 HR in 3.1 IP even as 1 error means 3 of 5 R is unearned. I agree with Mike – he’s exactly the guy to trade first. And package him with a Rasner or DeSalvo or Karstens to get something decent back. Problem is: I’ve yet to see Cashman trade prospects for prospects.

  • Rick

    Stop The Press, Wil Nieves just had a hit.

  • ANTHONY FROM THE BRONX

    can the yanks redo there bullpen can anybody throw strikes
    henn cant be any worse then villone meyers
    britton cant be any worse then fransworth
    what happened to edwir one hit one run one hbp and he disappers

  • Rick in Boston

    Farnsworth’s got to go

    Is there anything Andy Phillips can do to make sure he doesn’t lose PT to Dougie when he gets healthy? Should Phillips find a way to re-break Dougie’s wrist?

  • The Scout

    I watched both Chamberlain and Patterson with interest last night. I share the enthusiasm for Chamberlain. Patterson reminded me of — sorry to say it — Kyle Farnsworth. Patterson’s fastball looked hard but straight; his breaking pitch was OK, but against major league competition I’m not sure. Of course, unlike Farnsworth, Patterson doesn’t seem to be a head case. And that may make all the difference.

  • dan

    i dont know why, but im kinda excited for ryan pope.

    I’d trade marquez and jason jones/brett smith (or even all 3) for salty in a second. does anyone see those 3 really amounting to much if they make it to the majors? okay maybe you do, but I dont…. look at their strikeouts and tell me that they will crack the yankees 2009 rotation: not happening. i wouldnt trade horne, but those 3 can go

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph P.

    James, the problem is that you’re talking about trading non-top-100 prospects for top 100 prospects. After you get past Horne on that last — and maybe even before you get to him — you don’t have high ceiling players. You can have a thousand of them, but it doesn’t make a difference. That is to say, you’re not going to be able to catch quality young players in a trade for quantity.

    Saltalamacchia was a top 30 prospect heading into the year, and he’s proven that he can hit at the major league level. So why would Schuerholtz trade him for a bunch of guys who couldn’t crack the top 30? Even if you said Horne and Kennedy, he wouldn’t do it, because Salty is more highly regarded. If he’s going to trade him, he’s going to get a projectable player, not a package of B prospects.