Suzyn Waldman’s dramatic moment, in hindsight

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Remember when Roger Clemens came back in 2007 and Suzyn Waldman flipped her lid? It was “of all the dramatic things she has ever said,” the Roger Clemens return seemed to take the cake. Well, she sure does look foolish now, huh? In fact, I was at that game and the 50,000 of us that stood and gave Clemens a standing ovation probably look equally foolish. Our reaction wasn’t immortalized in audio. Meanwhile, Bob Raissman of the Daily News caught up with Waldman in the aftermath of this week’s hearings. Waldman gives the typical canned answers, but lest we forget, it was indeed dramatic.

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  • nick blasioli

    i wouldnt pick on susan w…i happen to really like that woman…her commentary is top drawer…i cant wait to hear what she has to say about the off season of the yankees….

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.

      As I said, we all look foolish.

      But to answer another one of your points, I find Waldman and Sterling insufferable. I know that Yankee fans differ wildly on this view, but I’ll explore that before Opening Day. They are not very good at calling games.

      • Casper

        Agree with Ben… Throw Kay into that pile, too, as far as I’m concerned. But whatever, it’s just part of being a Yankees fan (dealing with the aspect of the organization that pushes pomp and hero-worship beyond comfortable levels). Part of being a Yankees-hater, too, of course.

      • usty

        I like Sterling when he doesn’t get caught up in himself…Postively Damonic, A-bomb for A-Rod, The Master Sheff, Giambino, Bam-Tino….all douche chill inducing. As for calling the regular game, I think he does a great job of conveying all that is going on on the field, and I do like his, “It is high, it is far, it is…GONE!” call for the actual homerun.

        Suzyn’s voice just grates on me though, I thought Sterling and Steiner were a great booth for games.

        I have XM and sometimes down in Trenton that 880 signal doesn’t come through quite so clear, so I get to hear the road announcers at times because XM only gives the home broadcast. All of those announcers have me dying to get back to hearing Sterling call the game. 2 horrible things I remember, the (No longer D) Rays announcers having a discussion while Tony Womack was up and the next thing I heard about the game was Jeter grounded out. No call on Womack’s at bat, nothing. They just missed it. Another time I was treated to the O’s broadcast in which they debated and seriously argued that Melvin Mora could be considered as good as A-Rod.

        Give me Sterling (minus stupid nicknames) every time.

  • LiveFromNewYork

    Sterling is truly insufferable and I really don’t think that many Yankee fans disagree with that.

    I think the disagreement comes over Waldman because she is very knowledgeable but is frequently annoying and occasionally over the top. Her voice can get grating after an hour of John Sterling’s “It’s goooooooooo…gonna stay in play….”

    I think I might have more tolerance for her if I wasn’t ready to throw the radio out the window over Sterling.

    I do think, however, that she knows her stuff and she doesn’t seem like a female talking head like so many other female sportscasters. She seems like someone who truly loves the game and knows it well.

    • Casper

      Feel like I’m piling on at this point, I realize there’s no need to just dog her for no reason… But to further this discussion… While she may be “knowledgeable” (some here probably consider that point very debatable at the least), I could do with a little more reasoned analysis/explanation and a little less “so I was having coffee with the Yoag last night (I call him the Yoag because one time he spilled yogurt on his chin while we were at a Starbuck’s in New Jersey for our weekly pow-wow), because, as you know, I’m Suzyn Waldman.”

      • LiveFromNewYork

        Her attempts at humor and her name dropping I could definitely do without. I think there is a decent broadcaster in there somehow. But I think if you scratch Kay or Sterling you just get more bonehead. I think that Waldman could be salvageable if she ever acknowledged the need to be salvaged, which I don’t think she would.

  • Steve

    I dont know why we all look foolish. Lets be honest Clemens’ return was rather dramatic so who cares what his actual results were (and we all knew that the guy wasnt going to pitch like he did in Houston). And the people who make fun of Waldman are the same guys who cant vote for Hillary. Women in a male dominated arena usually unfairly breed a lot of subconscious resentment.

    As for the steroid thing, I find the whole Mitchell report and the people behind it so reprehensible that in scheme of the the “greater of two evils”, I hope Clemens figures out a way to bring the whole thing down. I mean we all knew that steroids were prevalent in the sport and this thing is just a product of the media being on steroids. No one cared when Rodney Harrison got caught with HGH but now were getting a congressional investigation into spy gate. Its a joke.

    • Realist

      Very well said , Steve! I agree with what you said on all points :-)

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph P.

      “And the people who make fun of Waldman are the same guys who cant vote for Hillary.”

      Yes, if they’re sexist and misogynistic. I’m not going to get into a political debate here, because it’s not the place, but suffice it to say you can pick out both of their flaws without as much as mentioning their sex.

      • mg

        You know I can’t resist this.

        I think that there are fewer men who won’t vote for Hillary because of her gender than you might think. In fact, I think the very fact that she has been the candidate to beat this entire race speaks to the fact that those barriers have largely been overcome. I think Hillary has been largely judge on who she is and what she stands for, same as largely Waldman is judged by how she is as a baseball broadcaster.

        With Hillary, I think opposition is rooted as much in Americans wanting change rather than just a return to 8 years ago. Some haven’t forgotten NAFTA or Welfare Reform. Some simply think that there’s something distasteful about the Presidency being held two families for 20 years straight. I also think there’s a lot of truth to the idea that there are many on the right who will simply never vote for a Clinton but might for another candidate.

        It’s a shame to ignore these nuances. Though they are more complicated explanations than blaming sexism for dissatisfaction with either Waldman or Hillary, to immediately turn to sexism as the root cause is to imply that it is wrong to judge women on their merits as we would a man in their job. I think it’s enormously positive to see men and women judge the same. That’s equality truly manifested.

        • Whitey14

          I can’t vote for anybody, male or female, if they have poor family values.

          I don’t listen to the yankees broadcasters so I’ll reserve comment there except for when I hear the guy that says thhhhheeeee yyyyyyyankees win. I do hate that, but for obvious reasons.

          I’m tremendously biased but I think Remy and Orsillo do pretty well as does Castiglione on the radio. I’m guessing yankees fans would disagree?

          • mg

            You won’t get a lot of disagreement on Sterling from me. I just think we all ought to be judged primarily on how well we do what we do. In my case that makes it easier to vote for Obama than Hillary and it makes it nearly unbearable to listen to the Yankees on the radio. Not that Kay is much better on TV. We just can all be glad the Hawk doesn’t work for YES.

    • It’sMeSNITCHES!!!

      I think you bring up a valid point. Within those criticisms, there’s plenty of closeted and subconscious misogyny.

  • Geno

    Give me The Scooter over any of these windbags any day. He wasn’t perfect, and he knew it.

  • Realist

    Yes , that is true but he makes a good point….it’s difficult for a Woman in predominately “Male arenas”…there is nothing wrong with saying that and doesn’t necessarily mean everyone who laughed at her Clemen’s gushing is a sexist ;-)

  • Realist

    And Geno , I have to agree with you…Scooter , Bill White and Messer to name a few , would be my choice over any of today’s.

  • blah

    The morning sports talk show in San Francisco on KNBR was playing the Waldman clip repeatedly on the show while talking about the Clemens testimony. It was pretty funny.

  • Rich

    I’ll give Suzyn a pass on her paroxysm during the Clemens’s thing, but she’s not qualified to be a MLB broadcaster.

  • It’sMeSNITCHES!!!

    Mike & The Mad Dog did the same thing yesterday.

  • http://yankeesetc.blogspot.com/ Travis G.

    i miss Charlie Steiner. wtf happened to him?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph P.

      Doing Dodgers play-by-play on the radio.

  • steve (different one)

    just because Waldman is a woman doesn’t mean the complaint that her voice is absolutely horrible isn’t valid.

    she has a terrible, terrible voice.

    and in radio, that’s kindof important.

    than again, Sterling has a good voice, but he is pretty awful too.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph P.

      I think we’re getting to the essence of this issue: Many people plain don’t like announcers. I’m among them. So of course we’re going to be harder on our home town guys, because we hear them the most.

      • steve (different one)

        sure. but Kay is especially obnoxious and this opinion is *almost* universally held.

        as for Waldman, let’s just say that if i have to strip paint off of something, i just pull up that clip when Clemens showed up and play it next to the object.

  • http://pinstripealley.com Edwantsacracker

    That was a great game to be at. The crowd was really into it, the benches cleared from a brawl, it was Pinstripe Alley day….

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph P.

      Yes, Ed. But since you were sitting next to me, I’m fairly certain that you couldn’t see that it was Clemens at first, either.

      • mg

        hehehe, Yep. There was no way we could see the screen from those seats.

        BTW, any thoughts on an RAB day at the ballpark this year?

  • Rob_in_CT

    Waldman is flat out awful. I feel bad about my dislike, because a goodly chunk of her awfulness is in her voice – which is totally not her fault. But in radio, that matters. A lot. And her voice inflicts pain.

    Sterling… It is high! It is far! It’s… caught by the second baseman. Some of the calls are really bad. And his love for Miguel Cairo and his “best .237 average” oy. There are worse, though, amazingly enough. And he *does* have a good voice. I rail against what he says fairly often, but I can’t fault how he says it.

    Kay is awful. Windbag of the first order. The rest of the YES crew is pretty good, though.

  • Babe’s Ghost

    Ummm… Scooter was the ultimate windbag, who spent half the time talking about canolis and what he had or was going to eat for dinner. That said, he was the announcer of my childhood and I miss him terribly.

    It’s very fashionable to bash announcers. And while I can’t say that I love Waldman or Sterling, there’s something very comfortable about listening to them. Kind of like a mildly annoying aunt or uncle, that in spite of everything is part of the family. (Which is why I took it semi-personally when the classless Bosux fans had so much fun replaying her crying on the radio at the end of the season.)

    I think there’s probably a market for an alternative call… one geared toward the more sophisticated fan, but it’s probably too small to support a high quality broadcast talent. Maybe the RAB guys would like to try doing a live podcast from the stands. You could do it with a headset plugged into a cellphone dialled into someone’s computer. If it’s good the Yankee blog community could take turns carrying the torch. As long as you don’t sell commercials the urge to crush you will be small. Not that the Yanks would be too psyched about it, but I’m not exactly sure what they’d be able to do. After all there are people live blogging the games.

  • Babe’s Ghost

    Ummm… Scooter was the ultimate windbag, who spent half the time talking about canolis and what he had or was going to eat for dinner. That said, he was the announcer of my childhood and I miss him terribly.

    It’s very fashionable to bash announcers. And while I can’t say that I love Waldman or Sterling, there’s something very comfortable about listening to them. Kind of like a mildly annoying aunt or uncle, that in spite of everything is part of the family. (Which is why I took it semi-personally when the classless Bosux fans had so much fun replaying her crying on the radio at the end of the season.)

    I think there’s probably a market for an alternative call… one geared toward the more sophisticated fan, but it’s probably too small to support a high quality broadcast talent. Maybe the RAB guys would like to try doing a live podcast from the stands. You could do it with a headset plugged into a cellphone dialled into someone’s computer. If it’s good the Yankee blog community could take turns carrying the torch. As long as you don’t sell commercials the urge to crush you will be small. Not that the Yanks would be too psyched about it, but I’m not exactly sure what they’d be able to do. After all there are people live blogging the games.