Game 75: Missing Wang


So today’s the big day for Dan Giese, and we’ll see what life is like without Chien-Ming Wang for the Yankees.

The Yankees are starting the post-Wang’s Injury Era with 31-year-old Dan Giese. He is making his first Major League start. In 7.3 innings in long relief this year for the Bombers, Giese has allowed six hits and one run while walking one and striking out four. On the other side of the ball, the Reds are tossing Daryl Thompson, a 22-year-old righty with just 18 innings of AAA experience.

How about a win?

Game time is 1:05 p.m, and I’ll be enjoying this one from section 6 in the Tier Reserve.

Damon LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Giambi 1B
Posada C
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF

Giese P

Categories : Game Threads


  1. Craig says:

    What are the expectations for Giese today? I would think 5 IP and anything less than 4 runs would be fantastic.

    • whozat says:

      I’d sign up for that.

      I am, as ever, concerned that the Yankees won’t get to this guy unless he has a hard time throwing strikes. It seems like, with guys they’ve not seen before, the pitcher just has to lay it in there and they’ll happily get behind in the count and then get themselves out all day. I can understand taking pitches the first time through the order, but when it comes around again, you’ve GOTTA hit these chumps.

      • dave says:

        I am really getting frustrated with this offense which is scoring 2 or less runs in over 30 % of their games.

        There inability to hit with men in scoring posion is disgraceful. Bases loaded no outs and do not score. How many games are they going to keep losing before someone puts a fire under them.

  2. BillyBall says:

    A little off this subject but I just went to the Yankee home page and read about the all star balloting. It appears that the Red Sox are just about leading in every category. A real joke seeing that it is the last year of the old ballpark and the last All Star game. It is a joke that you are able to vote 25 times and than use a fictitious name while keeping the same e-mail and continue to vote. I voted 25 times and left it at that but why should we have the entire Sox team start first and represent the American League on our Home Field. You realize in Boston they are eating this up.
    It is my opinion that this website that has more than 1000 loyal viewers needs to step up and promote voting for Yankees more so than they have been doing with a small posting. I hope everyone takes the time to vote. We have until July 2nd. Believe me it will put a nice dent in the voting if all the loyal RAB bloggers voted!

    • Mike A. says:

      We really should do that. Not necessarily vote for all Yankees like those morons in Boston, but vote for the players that actually deserve it.

  3. Mike A. says:

    Nice clean inning by Miami Giese.

  4. Mike A. says:

    The only player in baseball that breaks more bats than Johnny Damon is Mariano Rivera. This is getting ridiculous.

  5. A.D. says:

    Jeter grounding into DP is getting rediculous

  6. TurnTwo says:

    between the yankees game and stanford’s cws game, would seem to be a busy afternoon of baseball ahead.

  7. A.D. says:

    Cano called him off to up his fielding % after last nights error

  8. TurnTwo says:

    why, why, why are they playing the double header on friday against the mets? awful decision.

    • Mike A. says:

      FOX has the Saturday game at 4pm, and ESPN has the Sunday game at 8pm. MLB can’t screw around with their TV deals.

      • TurnTwo says:

        they couldnt play that first game at 1pm on Sunday?

        not that i blame them, cash rules everything around me (word to the Wu), but it sucks most of us will have to follow the game on our computers rather than get to watch it on TV.

        • Mike A. says:

          They could play the game at 1pm on Sunday, but it couldn’t be televised by YES or SNY or MY9 or whatever. ESPN has exclusive broadcast rights. It’s retarded, I know. I’ll be watching on Gamecast from the office as well.

  9. TurnTwo says:

    wow, babe’s grandson is pretty jacked for an older dude.

  10. TurnTwo says:

    wow, Votto looks exactly like the 1B the yankees need.

    bad play by Thompson, though.

    gotta make it hurt, now.

    • Chip says:

      I’d take him no question about it

    • Mike A. says:

      Yeah seriously, Votto’s a stud. He was originally a catcher, but moved to first base in the minors. He took off once Cincy got rid of that retarded “no batter can swing until they take a strike” requirement they had in the minors. He’s even got a perfect Roll Call name, “Jo-ey Vot-to, clap clap clapclapclap.”

      The Reds just drafted Yonder, who’s clearly a better player than Votto. Maybe the Yanks can swing a deal for him in the future.

      • TurnTwo says:

        ha! you know i thought the same thing about Votto, and of course my mets-fan friend goes “oh, of course, because every great young player will obviously be given to the yankees for nothing. you just expect to get whoever you want.”

        he’s such a bitter, bitter man.

  11. TurnTwo says:

    that was just a digusting display of an attempt at offense.

  12. Jersey says:

    Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. The 8 and 9 slots are where rallies go to die.

  13. Mike A. says:

    Melky striking out on balls over his head is really starting to bug me.

  14. Jersey says:

    On the bright side, Thompson has thrown 47 pitches through two innings.

  15. BillyBall says:

    Robbie C-A-N-O. I don’t know!

  16. Will says:

    Anybody got any ideas for a device or implant of some sort to prevent Robbie from swinging at the first pitch of every at-bat?

    Seriously, though, that was just painful to watch.

    • TurnTwo says:

      you would think Girardi would have had this talk with him, just like the “conversation” he had with melky about not sliding into 1B.

    • whozat says:

      I was actually noting back in the Houston series (didn’t watch much of the padres series) that he WAS taking some first pitches.

      Posada just did it too…this kid’s walked a bunch of guys, what’s with that? Posada should know better.

  17. TurnTwo says:

    Chien Ming Who??

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  19. TurnTwo says:

    ugh… just ugh.

  20. Jersey says:

    Yankees are bringing the A-game today! Watch out!

    • Mike A. says:

      They’re trying to give the kid a false sense of confidence by helping get out of no out rallies like this. They’re pounce later, you watch.

      Yeah, that’s it…

  21. Mike A. says:

    Jeremy Bleich on ESPN now.

  22. Will says:

    Well, on the plus side, at least the offense (for the most part, *cough cough*) is making Thompson really work, while Giese has been extremely efficient up to this point. Maybe the bullpen won’t have to work quite so hard today, which would certainly be a pleasant surprise.

  23. Mike A. says:

    Dan Giese in the house.

  24. TurnTwo says:

    Griffey still has that sweet swing, but he looks awful at the plate.

  25. daneptizl says:

    He should cheat.

  26. Mike A. says:

    Nice 1-2-3 inning for Bleich.

  27. pete says:

    can somebody pleaaase tell robbie to hold his hands still and keep his back elbow up? it’s like watching robert redford pretend to be good at hitting

  28. LiveFromNewYork says:

    What happened in the second? Arod got a double, Matsui was at first, no outs and then no score. I was listening to the radio and figured they’d score and then nothing.

  29. E-ROC says:

    Anxious much, Cabrera?

  30. E-ROC says:

    I don’t think Cabrera got cheated in that AB.

  31. E-ROC says:

    Don’t waste this start by Giese!

    • LiveFromNewYork says:

      This is the chance Giese has waited for for a long time. I think he’s got to be pretty happy with it and the Yankees have to be happy with him.

      • TurnTwo says:

        who knows if he can keep this up. but you gotta think this is the best moment of his professional life right now.

  32. LiveFromNewYork says:

    Giese looks good. Offense looks bad.

  33. Mike A. says:

    The Reds’ pitching coach is named Dick Pole? Hah.

  34. Mike A. says:

    Check out this Dan Giese character. Another horrible Cashman pickup.

  35. E-ROC says:

    62 pitches through 6 frames for Giese. WTF is going on with the Yanks offense?

  36. A.D. says:

    6ip 62 pitches, pretty economical

  37. Jersey says:

    Giese has thrown 43 of 62 pitches for strikes. Impressive.

  38. A.D. says:

    Classic Yankees against a rookie no one has seen before

  39. A.D. says:

    Defense could loose 2 in a row for us

  40. LiveFromNewYork says:

    Was that Cano again?

  41. Ivan says:

    great D by yanks.

  42. Ivan says:

    very interesting spot here for the yanks.

  43. Jersey says:

    give i’m another curve!

  44. Chip says:

    Well it’s good to see that we’re not the only ones who can’t get a runner in from third with less than 2 outs

  45. Ivan says:

    Why would you throw a fastball in that situation?

  46. Adam B. says:

    A-Rod deserves the blame here. I’m a big defender of him, but he should’ve just gone straight to second to try and get a DP rather than try and tag Griffey. Either that or run straight to third.

  47. E-ROC says:

    Hopefully, the Yanks can keep it at 2 runs.

  48. Ivan says:

    I mean Geise best pitch has beeen that breaking ball and it seem that Posada called for a fastball inside to a dead FB hitter who struggles with breaking pitches. That was a bad call there.

  49. Jersey says:

    That really sucks. A razor-thin line here between 0-2 and 2-0.

  50. E-ROC says:

    With the Yanks luck, I bet Corey Patterson hits a homerun.

  51. Chip says:

    Wow, why bring in Veras here when Giese was still cruising and only at 75 pitches?

  52. Ben K says:

    That was a fantastic 0-2 pitch. Way to pitch smart, Dan Giese.

    This HOUR is just icing on the cake

  53. E-ROC says:

    I’m all for throwing strikes, but don’t put the ball in the middle of the plate. And why throw a fastball to fastball hitters?

  54. Chip says:

    Well time for the offense to try to prevent him from being a hard luck loser

  55. Mark B says:

    Can’t see the game here in Chicago (thank you, Fox), but noticed Giradi’s move to take out Giese totally backfired….why take Giese out after so few pitches and bring in a guy (Veras) that I thought was our new 7th/8th inning guy when we have a lead?

  56. E-ROC says:

    The pitching change doesn’t bother me that much. The reliever still has to make his pitches and Veras gave Patterson a fat one.

  57. E-ROC says:

    Maybe a double here by Jeter?

  58. Mark B says:

    You would think Girardi would save Veras for games when we have a lead……

    • Chip says:

      Yeah, that was a Farsworth spot there IMO. Maybe he was warming to come in a protect the lead and Girardi figured I might as well use him since he’s warm?

      • Mike A. says:

        It was one of those “high leverage” situations everyone talks about. He used his best non-closing reliever in that situation like many believe is the best thing to do. Just didn’t work out this time.

  59. Jersey says:

    This offense is really unwatchable sometimes.

    • claybeez says:

      The way they can just be so utterly dominated, so often puzzles me. OK, truth – it pisses me off. To me it often feels like 2004 all over again. Maybe the numbers don’t back it up. They did score a lot of runs last year, but are they shutout or limited to 1 or 2 runs more than other teams that are in the upper echelon in scoring? Do those games come in bunches? Is it a 2004 hangover? Is it approach, pressing or age? Or is it just misperception?

  60. Chip says:

    Man, this just isn’t our weekend

  61. Mark B says:

    Just when you thought we were a playoff contender…..

  62. Chip says:

    Did Ohlendorf shoot Girardi’s dog or something? I can’t remember the last time he worked

    • Mark B says:

      My thoughts exactly….that was a perfect time to use Ohlendorf (and not Veras) Veras I thought pitched his way (prior to today) into the 8th inning set-up spot in front of Mo.

  63. E-ROC says:

    Billy Traber is a joke. Be gone, please!

    • TurnTwo says:

      i dont think you have to worry about this call. imo, his callup was more a tryout foir his 40 man spot than anything else.

  64. Chip says:

    I think Girardi heard me

  65. Mike A. says:

    Who else is out in the pen? Ohlendorf, Mo, Veras, Traber, Farns, Edwar…I’m missing someone, right?

  66. TurnTwo says:

    i was an Ohlendorf guy, but you wonder if at this point he’s better off working on a regular basis at Scranton and finally making one of those callups.

  67. Yankees=warriors says:

    Does anyone know how Britton is? Haven’t heard anything about him since he went on the DL.

  68. Mark B says:

    I think we’re looking at the soft underbelly that is the 2008 NY Yankees…

  69. Mark B says:

    Just when we thought Cano was showing signs of breaking out of his slump, he comes up short again……

  70. E-ROC says:

    Not the best day at the office for the Yanks. Getting shutout by the Reds no less.

  71. Mike A. says:

    Did David Cone just say a ML team will go thru 25-30 pitchers a season?

    • TurnTwo says:

      yes. i also heard something about “40″ but not sure what that was about.

      maybe he means between bullpen pieces and starters?

      • Mike A. says:

        I think he was referring to the 40 man roster. But 25-30 pitchers a season? Maybe he’s including the Jim Brower’s and Alex Graman’s of the world, the one and done guys.

  72. Mike A. says:

    Ah good, we’re going to get a look at both Burton and Affeldt this series, the two guys Steve Phillips says we should trade Phil Hughes for.

  73. Rich says:

    (It’s long past the) time to revamp the low end set up relievers and let Gardner at least compete with Melky.

    • Mark B says:

      Amen to that! Tomorrow would be nice….

    • TurnTwo says:

      ugh. Gardner is in the middle of like a 4-20+ slump in Scranton. now is exactly not the time to talk about making that switch.

      id be more in the camp of looking around the league for a veteran CF who maybe has a bad contract, or can play the 4th OF role.

      • Rich says:

        20 ABs don’t concern me. He brings speed on the bases and better range in the OF.

        Melky in 68 June ABs (before today):

        .221 .293 .294 .587

        94 ABs in May:

        .234 .270 .319 .589

        The time is now.

        • Mike A. says:

          I just stuck Melky’s stats in the MLE calculator. He’d hit .295-.370-.447 in AAA, which is a lower OPS than what Gardner has down there this season.

        • TurnTwo says:

          “speed on the bases and better range in the OF.”

          but less power, and a weaker arm.

          i’m as intrigued as most yanks fans about Brett Gardner, but this team is not winning or losing games based on Melky’s numbers.

          upgrade the bullpen, and hope that this team can hit better with runners in scoring position when it counts.

          • A.D. says:

            Yeah but Melk isn’t really hitting for power, and Gardner has a good arm, not as good as melky, but its way better than Damon or Matsui

  74. BigBlueAL says:

    Hey Mike have u checked the Hardball Times today??? Interesting analysis on Phil Hughes.

  75. claybeez says:

    I understand the Yankees will likely lose their 60+ this season. Still, do they have to do it so pathetically. I think I can handle losing. I just expect the team to battle and do the little things: patience, moving runners, sac flies, etc.

    • BigBlueAL says:

      Yeah these last 2 losses, along with the 2 to the Royals at home, really are tough to watch because they were against a couple of horrible teams who actually played and did the little things to win unlike the Yankees.

  76. Mike A. says:

    Good to see Dice-K is back and sucking.

    • BigBlueAL says:

      Forgot they were on Fox, believe it or not I have been watching Russia-Netherlands on ABC. Someone shoot me.

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