Game 76: Amid scattered showers, Yanks look to salvage Reds finale

Abreu's coincidental slump
Fans will pay for new stadium

Much like they did in 1976, the Reds have come to New York to steamroll over the Yankees. The only difference is that the 2008 Reds — 35-41 in the NL Central — ain’t exactly your Big Red Machine.

The Yanks today will look to salvage the finale game of this weekend’s three-game set before hitting the road for Pittsburgh and Queens. On the mound for the Yanks is Andy Pettitte. After getting shelled by the Royals, Pettitte has won his last two starts, allowing just one run over 15 innings and striking out 15. He’ll face Johnny Cueto, the 22-year-old righty is 5-7 with a 5.19 ERA.

The Yanks are going with the same lineup as yesterday. Someday, they’ll have to give the slumping Bobby Abreu a day off. Game time’s at 1:05 p.m. No more baseball after this until Tuesday night.

Damon LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Giambi 1B
Posada C
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF

Pettitte P

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Abreu's coincidental slump
Fans will pay for new stadium
  • batty

    Booyah – let’s get it done!

  • batty

    “The fleet footed Giambi steals a base” – Thanks for the laugh John!

  • Manimal

    Alright, Brett Gardner needs to come up soon because melky looks disgusting with his aweful plate discipline.

    • Old Ranger

      Thank you! May of us have been wishing for the call-up. He is a left handed bat, but if he can do the job…who cares! 27/08?

  • DeMarcus

    melky isn’t getting the ball out of the infield lately–ridiculous

  • pete

    so was that 7 game winning streak just a sham? For some reason i thought we had maybe started to break out.

  • http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    David Price to be promoted to Double-A.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      I’m sure the Rays’ FO bumped him up because they were scared that facing the Tampa Yanks would destroy his confidence. Yeah, that’s it.

  • Chip

    Man, this is getting embarrassing. We’re getting dominated by three guys who have pretty much no major league experience

    • http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      Yeah, I’ll take talent over Major League experience any day.

      • Chip

        I miss the Yankees that would destroy young pitching by just taking pitch after pitch and wearing them down

        • whozat

          When they come out and throw strikes, that just gets you behind in the count.

          They do wonderfully against guys who throw hard without a lot of control. They do badly against guys that pound the zone, seemingly regardless of how good their stuff is.

  • A.D.

    This was a series primed for the Yanks to play poorly, 3 young starters we’ve never seen before. If only we could have faced Arroyo & Harang

  • A.D.

    I’ve probably never been this excited for a regular season sac fly

    • Chip

      My thoughts exactly. Now if only Melky can get one out of the infield

      • A.D.

        Nope, not even in play

  • Chip

    Well that’s no surprise. I’m even starting to think Melky needs to get sent down just to get his head on straight and I’ve been one of his biggest supporters

    • A.D.

      Cano’s arm almost made up for that stumble

      • A.D.

        Didn’t mean to post that there, agree with you Melky is just waving at the ball, in some type of terrible slump on top of his free fall from the beginning of the season

  • Chip

    Another fundamental baseball mistake, can’t score the man from third with one out

  • Ben NC

    I’ve had enough. Melky out. Gardner in.

    Force those guys to work for a job! My goodness.

    I’m calm now.

  • A.D.

    We need the rain now, get this game rained out and get the win, then it would be rain for player of the game

    • Chip

      I’m all up for that

  • Brian

    Don’t you think that even if Cabrera continues to struggle in the short-term, they’ll just make Johnny CF, put in Matsui, and give Melky some days off? They’ll do that before making any sudden moves with Gardner, despite what many of us would like to see.

    • Chip

      No way, that turns a good defensive outfield into a bad defensive outfield. Also, the last time Matsui had to play left, he almost ended up on the DL and missed a few games

    • Ben NC

      I agree that sounds like a typical Yankees move, but what more does Gardner need to do at Triple-A? He’s hot now. I trust Cashman knows what’s best in this situation.

      • Chip

        Right now he’s actually in a bit of a slump which could cause Christian (who’s hot right now) to get the call

        • Ben NC

          Gotcha. I saw where Gardner went 3-for-4 yesterday, and I know his speed is always deadly. Good to know.

    • A.D.

      Only thing is Matsui has had some issues with the knees & has taken to the DH so I don’t know if they want Matsui playing the OF that regularly.

  • Chip

    Reasons we need more left-handed starting pitchers. The lefties of the Reds are just looking pathetic against Andy

  • Chip

    This is why we need more left-handed starting pitchers. Andy is just dominating the left-handed pitchers. RAIN!!!!!!! YAY!!!!!! If nothing else, a long delay gets Cueto out of there

    • Chip

      And I mean he’s dominating the left-handed batters of course

  • BigBlueAL

    For those of us who are watching thru Extra Innings and therefore cant watch YES thru the rain delay, if you can keep us posted if you hear a re-start time. Hopefully it just gets rained out and we get the win!!!!

    • Chip

      Looking at the radar, it doesn’t seem to be enough to rain out the entire game as it’s just a small line of storms. Just a guess though

      • A.D.

        Nancy Newman (who scares me) said it’s not expected to rain out the game, or be all that long

  • http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    For those of you who are clamoring for Brett Gardner you need to take a few things into account. One would be Brett Gardner’s adjustment period. He’s not going to come up and pull a Jay Bruce or even more than likely equal Melky Cabrera’s production as it stands. We’ve seen what Melky Cabrera can do when things are clicking for him, we’ve seen it in April and the beginning of June. Brett Gardner at his best can not begin to dream of slugging the way Melky can when Melky is on point.

    Brett Gardner has struck-out 61 times in 256-ABs in Triple-A, that is good for 24% of his ABs. His 61-Ks also rank as the 17th most in the International League. Although he has a nice 61/48 K/BB ratio, his BBs will decrease and his Ks will increase when he hits the Major League level. He already strikes-out too much as is, now couple that with Major League pitchers not having to worry about him placing one in the seats and you have a combination of a speedy hitter with no power, a below average OBP% and does not make a lot of contact. That is not a great combination that you would want especially seeing as how he gives you less defensive abilities in the OF. Gardner would give you better range in CF than Cabrera (which isn’t a big deal because Cabrera’s range in CF seeing as how he has the third-highest Zone Rating, per ESPN, amongst American League CF) but his arm in comparison to Cabrera’s would give him an overall less defensive rating in CF than Cabrera. I know the most popular guy in town is always the second-string QB but in this case becareful what you wish for, be very careful.

    • Chip

      I completely agree with you. Just a few counter-points.

      1. If Gardner can hit a ball deep in the outfield, I don’t care if he can’t hit a homerun. We just saw Melky strike out with a man on third with one out.

      2. Gardner might strike out a lot but at least he knows the difference between a strike and a ball. Melky has lost all semblance of plate vison. He swings at everything outside of the zone and then gets a called strike three right down the middle.

      3. Gardner takes pitches. Opposing pitchers can get through the Cano-Melky part of our lineup on four pitches all day long. We can’t be giving them a break like that.

      4. He puts pressure on the defense. There is no routine ground ball when he’s running and you had better turn a quick double play in order to get him on the back end.

      5. Nobody is saying get rid of Melky. Just let him go down without the pressure and figure out why he’s in this slump. Let him regain that magic he had at the beginning of the season.

      6. Speed kills. Even if he’s just on the bench, it’s a great late-inning weapon to have him for a pinch-runner. Plus, every ball in the gap has a chance to be a triple (9 triples against 10 doubles this season) and can you imagine an outfield defense of Damon, Gardner and Melky if we gave Abreu a day off?

      Like I said before, he’s not going to come up and be Jay Bruce but what if he comes up and is Jacoby Ellsbury for a few weeks? Maybe the Yankees catch him on a hot streak while the league tries to figure him out while Melky figures out what he needs to do to get back to the April Melky

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        I’ll add that I don’t think Gardner’s adjustment period would be very long. He’s just a guy that slaps the ball around the field and runs it out. Guys like that, the Ellsbury’s, Reyes’, Furcal’s and Ichiro’s of the world tend to slide right in and produce. I’m not saying he’ll be as good as those guys, just making a point.

        • BigBlueAL

          No offense, but dont compare Gardner’s power to either of those guys, especially Reyes, Furcal and even Ichiro.

      • whozat

        “We just saw Melky strike out with a man on third with one out.”

        “Gardner might strike out a lot”

        What makes you think that he’ll manage to avoid these strikeouts in key situations?

        Gardner takes pitches in minor league ball, but what on earth makes you think that big league pitchers won’t come right at him? He’s a singles hitter. They know he can’t hurt them. It’s not like he’s going to see lots of balls. They’ll pound the zone and make him swing. And he strikes out a lot. That’s a bad recipe for someone who can’t really drive the ball that much.

        I really don’t think that Melky would take being sent back to AAA as a nice breather to get his swing back without pressure. And Gardner wouldn’t actually provide much of an upgrade, if any.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          The way he’s been playing the last month and a half, Melky doesn’t deserve to feel comfortable with his job. It’s gotten to the point where they have to starting considering bringing Gardner up, because they can’t let Melky strikeout on pitches over his head with men on base all season.

          No one’s saying Gardner is a guaranteed upgrade, but you have to give it a shot at some point.

        • Chip

          He might strike out a lot but I’m fine with a strikeout with nobody on. If Gardner strikes out with a man on third with one out, I’ll be upset with him just as much. And if I’m a guy just coming up, I love when pitchers come right at me. The guy is going to get pitches to hit right away just for the fact nobody has a scouting report on him and therefore pitchers don’t know where he’s vulnerable. That might not last long but he could give us a spark for a few weeks.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Someone give a shout when the game starts back up, I’m going to hit the PS3. Thanks.

  • A.D.

    Players coming back out

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Thanks.

    • A.D.

      actually theyre still working on the field

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Man, they have to face three lefties in Pittsburgh? Son of a bitch…

    • http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      God forbid Gorzelanny and Duke are on their games, yikes!

      • A.D.

        At least they’ve seen some these guys

      • Chip

        With our luck, we’ll get shut out

  • http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    BTW, Metal Gear Solid 4 is fucking amazing, that is the only way to describe it, fucking amazing. Keep in mind that I haven’t even played it online yet.

  • http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Is there anything more ironic than David Ortiz wearing a shirt that says “I LOVE BLACK PEOPLE” in Boston, Massachusetts? LoL.

    • LiveFromNewYork

      Yes Boston Massachusetts does not.

  • http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    The rule should be that once the pitcher or batter steps foot on on the pitching rubber or the batter’s box, respectively, the batter has to stay in that box and whichever hand the glove is on (when talking about the pitcher) it can not be moved once the pitcher toes the rubber.

    • http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      And if they want to stall and not do anything then the batter should be forced to move or it is an automatic called strike.

  • Manimal

    Its about time the reds DON’T rob the yanks of hits that should have lead to runs.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Edwar Ramirez just blew a fastball by Corey Patterson. Corey Patterson doesn’t belong in the Major Leagues.

    • Will

      Two innings for Edwar today?

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        Doubt it with the off day tomorrow. I bet Girardi runs Farns and Mo out there.

    • Will

      …orrrrrrrr not.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Ah, always a good time when Michael Kay philosophizes. Yankee fans dislike Kyle Farnsworth because he’s not Mariano Rivera, not because he gives up a ton of homers or blows leads or anything like that. It’s because we’re spoiled and we expect everyone to be like Mo.

    Get off your fucking high horse Kay.

    • http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      Farnsworth might have been the wrong example to use but I agree with that 100%. Relievers are the Yankees are judged on a unfair standard to casual fans. It will be the same for Carmen Angelini and Jesus Montero if they reach the majors replacing Derek jeter and Jorge Posada.

  • http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Honestly, who isn’t a bit happy that Ken Griffey J. just jacked one?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      I’m much happier than Joel Piniero is shutting down Boston in Fenway.

  • LiveFromNewYork

    WHAT THE HELL IS THIS?

  • http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    David Robertson, come on down!

  • LiveFromNewYork

    Please be hurt.

    • http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      Come on now, you can’t be serious.

      • LiveFromNewYork

        Farnsworth? He might have jammed a finger. Nothing serious but I’m sick of him and could use time off from him. He didn’t look like he was in excruciating pain. I could use less of him.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          Don’t wish for someone to get hurt. It’s just wrong, not matter how much you dislike him.

          • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

            Except Curt Schilling. Fuck him.

            • LiveFromNewYork

              Now see I disagree. I didn’t WISH for someone to be hurt.
              I don’t WISH pain on anyone…not Farnsworth and not Schilling.

              But if he’s hurt, I say THANK YOU. Farnsworth is not suffering. I wouldn’t wish terrible pain on anyone but if Farns is hurt, I won’t shed a tear.

              • http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

                I see your point and I agree with you because when I saw Jason Varitek fuck up his knee in 2006 I was like “Heh, owned” but he might be more seriously hurt than what meets the eye.

  • batty

    Dumb question – why did the crowd give him a standing ovation after he was saying all that shit about the stadium? Was it mocking?

    Good news – Farnsworth is now out!

  • Smitt Dog

    Is it bad that Im hoping Farns is hurt?

    • http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      Yes.

    • batty

      Whatever it takes for Joe to stop using him…

      • Smitt Dog

        agreed. I would have hoped common sense would have this result, but if a comebacker gets the job done….

    • LiveFromNewYork

      No. He wasn’t terribly hurt. I don’t wish hurt on anyone. Not even Curt Schilling. I don’t wish pain. But Farnsworth to the DL? I could not be happier.

      • http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

        How the hell do you know if he is seriously injured or not? Initial reactions aren’t always the best marker.

        • LiveFromNewYork

          Calm down there Francis. I’ve seen hurt. Farnsy is a tough dude.

          • http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

            I’ve suffered serious injuries where the pain initially was almost non-existent, you can not always base the seriousness of an injury on the measure of pain or the person’s initial reaction.

            Who’s Francis?

            • LiveFromNewYork

              I wasn’t talking about the injury. I was talking about pain. I don’t mind if he’s injured. I don’t want to wish pain on anyone.

              “Calm down Francis” is a Boston expression that I think is pretty funny. It’s usually said when someone is being a bit girly.

              No offense, Jamal. I like you but you were getting righteous about Farnsy.

              • Andy in Sunny Daytona

                That’s from “Stripes”. And the quote is “Take it easy, Francis”, but people in Boston are idiots

  • LiveFromNewYork

    Farnsworth said oh no. Yankee fans say yeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssss

    • Old Ranger

      Real Yankee fans don’t want to see Fansy out. Only those that don’t see how much he is helping the team. Not everyone can be MO, Farnsy is OK, not great but OK.
      Cano and Melky are hurting the team much, much worse then any of our pitchers. 27/08?

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Pat Venditte just induced a fly out from a LHB, struck out a RHB looking, then struck out a LHB swinging to close out SI’s win. Awesome. Just awesome.

    • Sean O’Kane

      i hope he keeps this up, this summer is gonna be nothing but fun watching him develop

    • LiveFromNewYork

      Why do people say he’s not major material? I would love to see him in the Bronx.

  • pete

    i’m impressed with the fans giving griffey a standing o

    • LiveFromNewYork

      people at Yankee Stadium are increasingly not Yankee fans. Tourists. Business people. Annoying.

      It’s like all of NYC is being taken over by corporations and tourists.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        Word.

  • Ben NC

    Did you see the bench telling YES to cut the shot of Matsui entering the dugout? Hilarious. Sux for Matsui, don’t get me wrong, but Thompson and Co. are being a bit paranoid, yes?

  • pete

    patterson seems like the type of guy who would randomly hit a home run right here

  • http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Relievers who can’t throw strikes have to be the worst thing in all of baseball to watch, my God (Chris Perez vs. BOS).

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Bah, fucking Perez. I never understood how he got so much hype considering he’s consistently walked 6+ men per 9 IP during his career.

  • http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    PAPELBLOWN!

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      He’s better than Mo.

      Adam fucking Kennedy? Wow.

  • Smitt Dog

    Thank you Adam Kennedy.

  • Chip

    Come on Ankiel, put one out here

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Remember when Hideki Okajima was good?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Remember when Izzy was good?

    • nmc

      Yeah i remember that day.

  • Chip

    I’m glad I’m not a Sox fan right now. Back to back innings with the winning run on third and one out

  • TheLastClown

    Izzy Izzy Izzy…..made my blood boil & my skin crawl, but got the job done.

    Lets go CARDS in the 12th!!! The Sox bullpen is better than I like to admit….

  • Chip

    Very true, plus they don’t have a Hawkins or Farns in there bringing them down. It hink ours would be wonderful if we could find somebody to replace those two (did somebody say Cox and Robertson?)

    • pete

      even those guys are at least good for a while then bad for a while – ohlendorf has no control whatsoever

      • Chip

        He’s got good control, for about an inning and then falls apart

        • TheLastClown

          Why not Melancon? Im itching to see him come on up

        • Old Ranger

          That is one of the reasons he was to be used ONLY one inning. Sorry to say but, he has been used more then one inning to many times. 27/08?

  • Chip

    Ronnie V in to save the day!

    • TheLastClown

      Save the day? I hate it when these pitchers are messy, leaving their dirty Sox all over second base before they even have the decency to get an out!

      Great play just now though, nailed Dustin Pedouchebag @ 3rd

  • TheLastClown

    Crazy bashing Duncan brothers……gotta actually hit Tek to knock the ball loose, not just do a somersault over him….at least this Duncan actually gets on base though

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Awwww, Karstens just lost his perfecto with one out in the 6th.

  • TheLastClown

    GOD DAMN FUCKING PUKELOUS!

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