Jun
22

Game 76: Amid scattered showers, Yanks look to salvage Reds finale

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Much like they did in 1976, the Reds have come to New York to steamroll over the Yankees. The only difference is that the 2008 Reds — 35-41 in the NL Central — ain’t exactly your Big Red Machine.

The Yanks today will look to salvage the finale game of this weekend’s three-game set before hitting the road for Pittsburgh and Queens. On the mound for the Yanks is Andy Pettitte. After getting shelled by the Royals, Pettitte has won his last two starts, allowing just one run over 15 innings and striking out 15. He’ll face Johnny Cueto, the 22-year-old righty is 5-7 with a 5.19 ERA.

The Yanks are going with the same lineup as yesterday. Someday, they’ll have to give the slumping Bobby Abreu a day off. Game time’s at 1:05 p.m. No more baseball after this until Tuesday night.

Damon LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Giambi 1B
Posada C
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF

Pettitte P

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116 Comments»

  1. batty says:

    Booyah – let’s get it done!

  2. batty says:

    “The fleet footed Giambi steals a base” – Thanks for the laugh John!

  3. Manimal says:

    Alright, Brett Gardner needs to come up soon because melky looks disgusting with his aweful plate discipline.

    • Old Ranger says:

      Thank you! May of us have been wishing for the call-up. He is a left handed bat, but if he can do the job…who cares! 27/08?

  4. DeMarcus says:

    melky isn’t getting the ball out of the infield lately–ridiculous

  5. pete says:

    so was that 7 game winning streak just a sham? For some reason i thought we had maybe started to break out.

    • Mike A. says:

      I’m sure the Rays’ FO bumped him up because they were scared that facing the Tampa Yanks would destroy his confidence. Yeah, that’s it.

  6. Chip says:

    Man, this is getting embarrassing. We’re getting dominated by three guys who have pretty much no major league experience

    • Jamal G. says:

      Yeah, I’ll take talent over Major League experience any day.

      • Chip says:

        I miss the Yankees that would destroy young pitching by just taking pitch after pitch and wearing them down

        • whozat says:

          When they come out and throw strikes, that just gets you behind in the count.

          They do wonderfully against guys who throw hard without a lot of control. They do badly against guys that pound the zone, seemingly regardless of how good their stuff is.

  7. A.D. says:

    This was a series primed for the Yanks to play poorly, 3 young starters we’ve never seen before. If only we could have faced Arroyo & Harang

  8. A.D. says:

    I’ve probably never been this excited for a regular season sac fly

  9. Chip says:

    Well that’s no surprise. I’m even starting to think Melky needs to get sent down just to get his head on straight and I’ve been one of his biggest supporters

    • A.D. says:

      Cano’s arm almost made up for that stumble

      • A.D. says:

        Didn’t mean to post that there, agree with you Melky is just waving at the ball, in some type of terrible slump on top of his free fall from the beginning of the season

  10. Chip says:

    Another fundamental baseball mistake, can’t score the man from third with one out

  11. Ben NC says:

    I’ve had enough. Melky out. Gardner in.

    Force those guys to work for a job! My goodness.

    I’m calm now.

  12. A.D. says:

    We need the rain now, get this game rained out and get the win, then it would be rain for player of the game

  13. Brian says:

    Don’t you think that even if Cabrera continues to struggle in the short-term, they’ll just make Johnny CF, put in Matsui, and give Melky some days off? They’ll do that before making any sudden moves with Gardner, despite what many of us would like to see.

    • Chip says:

      No way, that turns a good defensive outfield into a bad defensive outfield. Also, the last time Matsui had to play left, he almost ended up on the DL and missed a few games

    • Ben NC says:

      I agree that sounds like a typical Yankees move, but what more does Gardner need to do at Triple-A? He’s hot now. I trust Cashman knows what’s best in this situation.

      • Chip says:

        Right now he’s actually in a bit of a slump which could cause Christian (who’s hot right now) to get the call

        • Ben NC says:

          Gotcha. I saw where Gardner went 3-for-4 yesterday, and I know his speed is always deadly. Good to know.

    • A.D. says:

      Only thing is Matsui has had some issues with the knees & has taken to the DH so I don’t know if they want Matsui playing the OF that regularly.

  14. Chip says:

    Reasons we need more left-handed starting pitchers. The lefties of the Reds are just looking pathetic against Andy

  15. Chip says:

    This is why we need more left-handed starting pitchers. Andy is just dominating the left-handed pitchers. RAIN!!!!!!! YAY!!!!!! If nothing else, a long delay gets Cueto out of there

  16. BigBlueAL says:

    For those of us who are watching thru Extra Innings and therefore cant watch YES thru the rain delay, if you can keep us posted if you hear a re-start time. Hopefully it just gets rained out and we get the win!!!!

    • Chip says:

      Looking at the radar, it doesn’t seem to be enough to rain out the entire game as it’s just a small line of storms. Just a guess though

  17. Jamal G. says:

    For those of you who are clamoring for Brett Gardner you need to take a few things into account. One would be Brett Gardner’s adjustment period. He’s not going to come up and pull a Jay Bruce or even more than likely equal Melky Cabrera’s production as it stands. We’ve seen what Melky Cabrera can do when things are clicking for him, we’ve seen it in April and the beginning of June. Brett Gardner at his best can not begin to dream of slugging the way Melky can when Melky is on point.

    Brett Gardner has struck-out 61 times in 256-ABs in Triple-A, that is good for 24% of his ABs. His 61-Ks also rank as the 17th most in the International League. Although he has a nice 61/48 K/BB ratio, his BBs will decrease and his Ks will increase when he hits the Major League level. He already strikes-out too much as is, now couple that with Major League pitchers not having to worry about him placing one in the seats and you have a combination of a speedy hitter with no power, a below average OBP% and does not make a lot of contact. That is not a great combination that you would want especially seeing as how he gives you less defensive abilities in the OF. Gardner would give you better range in CF than Cabrera (which isn’t a big deal because Cabrera’s range in CF seeing as how he has the third-highest Zone Rating, per ESPN, amongst American League CF) but his arm in comparison to Cabrera’s would give him an overall less defensive rating in CF than Cabrera. I know the most popular guy in town is always the second-string QB but in this case becareful what you wish for, be very careful.

    • Chip says:

      I completely agree with you. Just a few counter-points.

      1. If Gardner can hit a ball deep in the outfield, I don’t care if he can’t hit a homerun. We just saw Melky strike out with a man on third with one out.

      2. Gardner might strike out a lot but at least he knows the difference between a strike and a ball. Melky has lost all semblance of plate vison. He swings at everything outside of the zone and then gets a called strike three right down the middle.

      3. Gardner takes pitches. Opposing pitchers can get through the Cano-Melky part of our lineup on four pitches all day long. We can’t be giving them a break like that.

      4. He puts pressure on the defense. There is no routine ground ball when he’s running and you had better turn a quick double play in order to get him on the back end.

      5. Nobody is saying get rid of Melky. Just let him go down without the pressure and figure out why he’s in this slump. Let him regain that magic he had at the beginning of the season.

      6. Speed kills. Even if he’s just on the bench, it’s a great late-inning weapon to have him for a pinch-runner. Plus, every ball in the gap has a chance to be a triple (9 triples against 10 doubles this season) and can you imagine an outfield defense of Damon, Gardner and Melky if we gave Abreu a day off?

      Like I said before, he’s not going to come up and be Jay Bruce but what if he comes up and is Jacoby Ellsbury for a few weeks? Maybe the Yankees catch him on a hot streak while the league tries to figure him out while Melky figures out what he needs to do to get back to the April Melky

      • Mike A. says:

        I’ll add that I don’t think Gardner’s adjustment period would be very long. He’s just a guy that slaps the ball around the field and runs it out. Guys like that, the Ellsbury’s, Reyes’, Furcal’s and Ichiro’s of the world tend to slide right in and produce. I’m not saying he’ll be as good as those guys, just making a point.

        • BigBlueAL says:

          No offense, but dont compare Gardner’s power to either of those guys, especially Reyes, Furcal and even Ichiro.

      • whozat says:

        “We just saw Melky strike out with a man on third with one out.”

        “Gardner might strike out a lot”

        What makes you think that he’ll manage to avoid these strikeouts in key situations?

        Gardner takes pitches in minor league ball, but what on earth makes you think that big league pitchers won’t come right at him? He’s a singles hitter. They know he can’t hurt them. It’s not like he’s going to see lots of balls. They’ll pound the zone and make him swing. And he strikes out a lot. That’s a bad recipe for someone who can’t really drive the ball that much.

        I really don’t think that Melky would take being sent back to AAA as a nice breather to get his swing back without pressure. And Gardner wouldn’t actually provide much of an upgrade, if any.

        • Mike A. says:

          The way he’s been playing the last month and a half, Melky doesn’t deserve to feel comfortable with his job. It’s gotten to the point where they have to starting considering bringing Gardner up, because they can’t let Melky strikeout on pitches over his head with men on base all season.

          No one’s saying Gardner is a guaranteed upgrade, but you have to give it a shot at some point.

        • Chip says:

          He might strike out a lot but I’m fine with a strikeout with nobody on. If Gardner strikes out with a man on third with one out, I’ll be upset with him just as much. And if I’m a guy just coming up, I love when pitchers come right at me. The guy is going to get pitches to hit right away just for the fact nobody has a scouting report on him and therefore pitchers don’t know where he’s vulnerable. That might not last long but he could give us a spark for a few weeks.

  18. Mike A. says:

    Someone give a shout when the game starts back up, I’m going to hit the PS3. Thanks.

  19. A.D. says:

    Players coming back out

  20. Mike A. says:

    Man, they have to face three lefties in Pittsburgh? Son of a bitch…

  21. Jamal G. says:

    BTW, Metal Gear Solid 4 is fucking amazing, that is the only way to describe it, fucking amazing. Keep in mind that I haven’t even played it online yet.

  22. Jamal G. says:

    Is there anything more ironic than David Ortiz wearing a shirt that says “I LOVE BLACK PEOPLE” in Boston, Massachusetts? LoL.

  23. Jamal G. says:

    The rule should be that once the pitcher or batter steps foot on on the pitching rubber or the batter’s box, respectively, the batter has to stay in that box and whichever hand the glove is on (when talking about the pitcher) it can not be moved once the pitcher toes the rubber.

  24. Manimal says:

    Its about time the reds DON’T rob the yanks of hits that should have lead to runs.

  25. Mike A. says:

    Edwar Ramirez just blew a fastball by Corey Patterson. Corey Patterson doesn’t belong in the Major Leagues.

  26. Mike A. says:

    Ah, always a good time when Michael Kay philosophizes. Yankee fans dislike Kyle Farnsworth because he’s not Mariano Rivera, not because he gives up a ton of homers or blows leads or anything like that. It’s because we’re spoiled and we expect everyone to be like Mo.

    Get off your fucking high horse Kay.

    • Jamal G. says:

      Farnsworth might have been the wrong example to use but I agree with that 100%. Relievers are the Yankees are judged on a unfair standard to casual fans. It will be the same for Carmen Angelini and Jesus Montero if they reach the majors replacing Derek jeter and Jorge Posada.

  27. Jamal G. says:

    Honestly, who isn’t a bit happy that Ken Griffey J. just jacked one?

  28. LiveFromNewYork says:

    WHAT THE HELL IS THIS?

  29. Jamal G. says:

    David Robertson, come on down!

  30. LiveFromNewYork says:

    Please be hurt.

    • Jamal G. says:

      Come on now, you can’t be serious.

      • LiveFromNewYork says:

        Farnsworth? He might have jammed a finger. Nothing serious but I’m sick of him and could use time off from him. He didn’t look like he was in excruciating pain. I could use less of him.

        • Mike A. says:

          Don’t wish for someone to get hurt. It’s just wrong, not matter how much you dislike him.

          • Mike A. says:

            Except Curt Schilling. Fuck him.

            • LiveFromNewYork says:

              Now see I disagree. I didn’t WISH for someone to be hurt.
              I don’t WISH pain on anyone…not Farnsworth and not Schilling.

              But if he’s hurt, I say THANK YOU. Farnsworth is not suffering. I wouldn’t wish terrible pain on anyone but if Farns is hurt, I won’t shed a tear.

              • Jamal G. says:

                I see your point and I agree with you because when I saw Jason Varitek fuck up his knee in 2006 I was like “Heh, owned” but he might be more seriously hurt than what meets the eye.

  31. batty says:

    Dumb question – why did the crowd give him a standing ovation after he was saying all that shit about the stadium? Was it mocking?

    Good news – Farnsworth is now out!

  32. Smitt Dog says:

    Is it bad that Im hoping Farns is hurt?

    • batty says:

      Whatever it takes for Joe to stop using him…

      • Smitt Dog says:

        agreed. I would have hoped common sense would have this result, but if a comebacker gets the job done….

    • LiveFromNewYork says:

      No. He wasn’t terribly hurt. I don’t wish hurt on anyone. Not even Curt Schilling. I don’t wish pain. But Farnsworth to the DL? I could not be happier.

      • Jamal G. says:

        How the hell do you know if he is seriously injured or not? Initial reactions aren’t always the best marker.

        • LiveFromNewYork says:

          Calm down there Francis. I’ve seen hurt. Farnsy is a tough dude.

          • Jamal G. says:

            I’ve suffered serious injuries where the pain initially was almost non-existent, you can not always base the seriousness of an injury on the measure of pain or the person’s initial reaction.

            Who’s Francis?

            • LiveFromNewYork says:

              I wasn’t talking about the injury. I was talking about pain. I don’t mind if he’s injured. I don’t want to wish pain on anyone.

              “Calm down Francis” is a Boston expression that I think is pretty funny. It’s usually said when someone is being a bit girly.

              No offense, Jamal. I like you but you were getting righteous about Farnsy.

              • Andy in Sunny Daytona says:

                That’s from “Stripes”. And the quote is “Take it easy, Francis”, but people in Boston are idiots

  33. LiveFromNewYork says:

    Farnsworth said oh no. Yankee fans say yeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssss

    • Old Ranger says:

      Real Yankee fans don’t want to see Fansy out. Only those that don’t see how much he is helping the team. Not everyone can be MO, Farnsy is OK, not great but OK.
      Cano and Melky are hurting the team much, much worse then any of our pitchers. 27/08?

  34. Mike A. says:

    Pat Venditte just induced a fly out from a LHB, struck out a RHB looking, then struck out a LHB swinging to close out SI’s win. Awesome. Just awesome.

  35. pete says:

    i’m impressed with the fans giving griffey a standing o

  36. Ben NC says:

    Did you see the bench telling YES to cut the shot of Matsui entering the dugout? Hilarious. Sux for Matsui, don’t get me wrong, but Thompson and Co. are being a bit paranoid, yes?

  37. pete says:

    patterson seems like the type of guy who would randomly hit a home run right here

  38. Jamal G. says:

    Relievers who can’t throw strikes have to be the worst thing in all of baseball to watch, my God (Chris Perez vs. BOS).

  39. Smitt Dog says:

    Thank you Adam Kennedy.

  40. Chip says:

    Come on Ankiel, put one out here

  41. Mike A. says:

    Remember when Hideki Okajima was good?

  42. Chip says:

    I’m glad I’m not a Sox fan right now. Back to back innings with the winning run on third and one out

  43. TheLastClown says:

    Izzy Izzy Izzy…..made my blood boil & my skin crawl, but got the job done.

    Lets go CARDS in the 12th!!! The Sox bullpen is better than I like to admit….

  44. Chip says:

    Very true, plus they don’t have a Hawkins or Farns in there bringing them down. It hink ours would be wonderful if we could find somebody to replace those two (did somebody say Cox and Robertson?)

  45. Chip says:

    Ronnie V in to save the day!

    • TheLastClown says:

      Save the day? I hate it when these pitchers are messy, leaving their dirty Sox all over second base before they even have the decency to get an out!

      Great play just now though, nailed Dustin Pedouchebag @ 3rd

  46. TheLastClown says:

    Crazy bashing Duncan brothers……gotta actually hit Tek to knock the ball loose, not just do a somersault over him….at least this Duncan actually gets on base though

  47. Mike A. says:

    Awwww, Karstens just lost his perfecto with one out in the 6th.

  48. TheLastClown says:

    GOD DAMN FUCKING PUKELOUS!

  49. [...] a few other fans offered up different takes. As Old Ranger wrote: Real Yankee fans don’t want to see Fansy out. Only those that don’t see how much he is helping [...]

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