Game 108: Those dreaded Angels


In all the hoopla surrounding the trade deadline, it’s easy to forget that the Yanks play a game tonight. We’re too busy celebrating the departure of Manny from the Red Sox or the arrival of Pudge to focus on the game, but it’s a doozy tonight.

For the first time this season, the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim arrive in New York. The Angels have long been a thorn in the Yanks’ side. The Yanks were just 55-61 against them during Joe Torre’s tenure. So I’m hoping they can get off on the right foot with Joe Girardi at the helm.

This, however, will be no small task. The Angels currently sport a 67-40 record, tops in the Majors by three games. They swept the Red Sox in Fenway Park this week, and the games weren’t really close. And, oh yeah, they also landed Mark Teixeira in a trade with the Braves. They are clearly the AL frontrunners right now, and this four-game set this weekend will impact the Yanks’ playoff hopes.

For the Yanks, Andy Pettitte takes the mound. The Angels are 19-7 against lefties this year. Gulp. The Angels counter with Jon Garland, 3-5 with a 4.26 ERA in his career against the Yanks. Starting this series — and Pudge’s Yankee career — out with a win would be huge for the Yanks.

Damon DH
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
A-Rod 3B
Giambi 1B
Cano 2B
Nady LF
I-Rod C
Cabrera CF

Game Notes: Pudge will wear number 12. Andy Phillips, Clay Bellinger and Tony Womack plan to complain about that. I wonder if any other team has two numbers with the same last name wearing consecutive numbers on their backs. Someone get the Elias Sports Bureau on the phone….Edwar Ramirez is facing a three-game suspension for throwing at Kevin Millar. He’ll appeal. Daniel Cabrera received a six-game time-out for throwing at A-Rod.

Categories : Game Threads


  1. Mike W. says:

    I like the look of the lineup with the new additions…

    • TurnTwo says:

      agreed. the new additions help balance and lengthen the lineup again.

      i’m kind of surprised Nady didnt slot right up in between Giambi and Cano, but cant really complain.

  2. steve says:

    agreed on the lineup … melky batting 9 … where he belongs

  3. zs190 says:

    Yeah, lineup definitely looks a lot better now that we replaced Gardner with Nady and Molina with Pudge.

    Our lineup looks good, and Andy has been pitching well.

    Hopefully we get a good game and maybe get a much needed road win.

  4. Jamal G. says:

    I-Rod looks so jumpy back there.

  5. Jamal G. says:

    If Victor Zambrano contributes even one win to the Yankees, Mets’ fans are going to want to break something.

  6. McCaff says:

    Victor Zambrano is so much better than Scott Kazmir….


  7. batty says:

    I don’t understand why we traded AG – he’s fast, great defensively though a work in progress. I’d rather see him in there as a late inning replacement vs Boot-it Betemit.

  8. Ivan says:

    That was uneventful inning.

  9. TurnTwo says:

    Heather looks like she’s ready to have some fun, no?

  10. gxpanos says:

    Jesus, Bobby. You weren’t even near the wall.

  11. Julien says:

    bobby, bobby, bobby… :|

  12. Greg says:

    andy is not locating not good against a lineup like the angels have

  13. Jake H says:

    Doesn’t seem to have his normal command.

  14. Mike A. says:

    So is anyone having issues getting the site to load with Firefox?

  15. TurnTwo says:

    great f’n pickoff. ill ditto paulie in the booth… ive never seen that work before.

  16. Jake H says:

    Andy’s used that move before this season. He picked Reyes of the Met’s off

  17. Greg says:

    The mobile version of this site is awesome. I don’t know what I would do if I didn’t have witty RAB commentaries while out with the in laws

    • Jamal G. says:

      Internet cards, FTW! Seriosuly, a lot of the time I’m never home around game time so if it wasn’t for this I wouldn’t have access to MLB.TV or RAB.

  18. Jamal G. says:

    How is Jon Garland for a comp to Ian Kennedy?

  19. E-ROC says:

    The strike thrower that is Garland…

  20. TurnTwo says:

    a situation of subtraction by subtraction? um…

    • Mike A. says:

      Don’t ask. Just be glad Manny’s in the NL.

      • TurnTwo says:

        couldnt be happier.

        question… dont you think the Pirates couldve gotten more if they packaged Jack Wilson with Manny to LA? werent the Dodgers looking for a SS?

        • Mike A. says:

          I don’t know, I thought the Pirates got a pretty decent haul considering. Bryan Morris is pretty good pitching prospect (Z-Mac caliber), and LaRoche is a stud. Moss and Hansen aren’t much more than servicable, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Moss turns into the next David Murphy with regular at-bats.

          I think the Sox gave up too much for Bay. It seems like the other teams knew they were desperate to get rid of Manny, so they took them to the cleaners.

  21. Dave P. says:

    Alright Sidney, the joke is up. Whadya do with Andy?

  22. Steve says:

    Yeah, don’t think Bay will strike the fear into the Yanks (especially Moose) that Manny did. Have a feeling Ortiz will start walking a lot more. It’s been a good week, even with the Orioles series mixed in.

  23. Jamal G. says:

    Nady has an alright arm.

  24. Ryan says:

    come on pudge

  25. TurnTwo says:

    who knew Teixeira could steal a base?

  26. Joey H says:


  27. Jamal G. says:

    Yeah, you knew that was coming. Andy’s game just did not have a good feel from the first inning on.

    • Joey H says:

      its funny how you can tell with ALL of his starts. when he has a fast first inning its just going to be easy for him

  28. Jake H says:

    No command = hit hard

  29. Greg says:

    Andy just doesn’t have it going tonight

  30. A.D. says:

    not good

  31. batty says:

    This is going to be a really long four game series…

  32. Jake H says:

    Come on Cano you should make that play

  33. Joey H says:

    looking like its gonna be a night for danny boy geise?

  34. Ivan says:

    Pettitte command is off completely. Just stop the bleeding.

  35. A.D. says:

    looks like Britton could get some immediate action

  36. Jamal G. says:

    Why is “forcing the action” looked upon as a good thing? Someone on the internet had a theory (can’t remember who), they said that the reason “baseball people” are so fond of bunts, hit-and-run plays, squeezes and such is the fact that those are things in baseball that you can control. So when people see it they get excited because baseball is largely a game that you can not necessarily control.

    • A.D. says:

      i really just think of it as a strategy for a fast team that doesn’t walk or have much pop, basically the opposite of monyball

    • Mike A. says:

      Hit & running and all that stuff has it’s place. You’re going to need to be able to do that kind of stuff to beat good pitching in the playoffs. Now, building an entire offense based on that smallball philosophy? Eek.

  37. A.D. says:

    This is like Andy against KC

  38. Ivan says:

    Boy Pettitte really doesn’t have it.

  39. Joe says:


  40. McCaff says:

    i blame farnsworth

  41. Joey H says:

    two things i think this can be put on. pudge. and the weather. i think pudge and andy couldnt get on the same page early on in the game, and if andy is like me the hot weather really pissed him off , so i guess hes just a bit off tonight because of those two reasons

    • TurnTwo says:

      i wont blame pudge for Andy not having his control. just one of those games.

      • A.D. says:

        Yeah its not like pettite got hit around on strange pitch choices, he wasn’t throwing strikes

      • Joey H says:

        no i know you cant be perfect every time. but im positive that them not getting into an early rhythm which is VERY important for andy to do contributed to his lack of success this evening

  42. Jamal G. says:

    I really hate fans sometimes.

  43. Ivan says:

    Pettitte control was just bad and never seem confortable. Maybe not being acclimated to Pudge was a factor. I will say this, when Pettitte throws a stinker like this, he usually comes back hard.

    • Joey H says:

      yeah well when you have ponson and rasner pitching against the team with the best record in baseball, you kinda need andy to win this one, just a tad bit.

  44. A.D. says:

    forcing the action

    Making Garland work…defensively

  45. A.D. says:

    well we can only hope for the famed 2nd time around to do something

  46. Ivan says:

    Well Garland isn’t great, so your gonna get ya share of hits.

  47. A.D. says:

    Really suprised TB didn’t make a move today

    • Joey H says:

      yeah and im really happy they didnt. that team as is will not finish in the top two in the al east.

    • Mike A. says:

      I’m shocked Minaya didn’t make a move. Yeah he inquired on Ayala, but so what. (Anyone surprised he looked into one of his guys from the Nats again?)

      They need an OF, a SP, and a RP or two, but instead … Fernando Tatis!

  48. A.D. says:

    AG got traded, interesting

  49. Charles says:

    Hoping for a comeback.

    • Jamal G. says:

      I will be hoping for a comeback as I watch “Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind” on my PS3, not really in the mood to sit through a blowout tonight.

      • Charles says:

        Hey, I’ve watched that. Really good movie.

      • TurnTwo says:

        i just watched the Royal Tennebaums for the first time. strange humor, very dry, but great movie.

        also saw “The Devil Came on Horseback” which was a documentary on the crisis in Darfur. very informative.

  50. A.D. says:

    Kontos’s line today might be why pitt wanted him

    8in 1H 0BB 13K

  51. Mike A. says:

    Hot hot hot Bobby.

  52. Charles says:

    Bobby HR!

  53. Charles says:

    Nice double for A-Rod.

  54. McCaff says:

    Vlad is one ugly person.

  55. Charles says:

    Z-Mac thru 6. 6ip, 1h, 0r, 0er, 2bb, 5ks.

  56. Mike A. says:

    Nice job by Pettitte gutting out a few more innings to save the pen.

  57. Joe says:

    that double play hurts really badly now

  58. Charles says:

    Ugh, I just hate it when a batter GIDP and then the next batter gets a hit.

  59. Mike A. says:

    Man, the Angels are really good. Like REALLY good. Very good pitching (Garland’s their #5), a diverse offense that can beat you on the bases or over the fence, and that defense catches everything put in play.

    And as I write that, the Yankees hit back-to-back triples.

  60. TurnTwo says:

    we should be excited for back to back triples right?

    if they can get this to 3 runs with 4 innings to go, thats not bad.

  61. TurnTwo says:

    btw, when i look at the minor league scoreboards, and i see Igawa throw like 6 innings of 1 run ball, am i the only one who gets really, really angry?

  62. A.D. says:

    Z-Mac, Kontos, Igawa, Braboy…god starts by the farm

  63. A.D. says:

    Loosing 4 out of 5 with Ponson going tomorrow…yikes

  64. Mike A. says:

    Ladies and gents, we have a Chris Britton signing.

  65. Joe says:

    It’s hard to not be envious of this Angels team.

    • TurnTwo says:

      my uncle has season tickets out there about 15 rows up from the IF/OF grass on the 3B side. very envious of that.

      • Joe says:

        I saw a couple of games there last year. One was the game where they got pounded for 23 runs, it was pretty ugly.

  66. Charles says:

    I know the minors focuses more on development but a look at the records of Yankee affiliates shows:

    SWB – 68-45
    Trenton – 66-44
    Tampa – 54-52
    Charleston – 63-44
    SI Yanks – 25-17
    GCL Yanks – 17-19

    Aside from the GCL Yanks, all have winning records. It’s really great to impart a winning attitude into all those youngsters.

  67. A.D. says:

    Gotta love Britton’s gut

  68. Charles says:

    Wow! Is that Chris Britton pitching?

  69. zzzzz says:

    oh vlad.

    • TurnTwo says:

      just think, he could be in the last year of his contract with the yankees this year, right?

      sigh, again.

  70. Joey says:

    ouch, just came home and it doesn’t look too good at the moment

  71. A.D. says:

    We can now only hope the yanks score some runs in the 8th or 9th so that they can win tomorrow

  72. Mike A. says:

    Why can’t Cano catch anything lately?

  73. Joe says:

    Man, Hudson and Mulder really have had a rough go since leaving Oakland

    • A.D. says:

      Hudson? Aside from TJS as of this week he’s been just fine as a Brave…Zito on the other hand

      • Joe says:

        I meant to include Zito as well, but I think Zitos downfall could be seen, though I don’t think it could have been anticipated to be this bad

      • TurnTwo says:

        before the whole TJ thing, i actually thought he was a pretty good trade option for the Braves if they were sellers at the deadline. oh well.

  74. A.D. says:

    Any word on Alby’s health?

  75. Mike A. says:

    X(BH) Nady in the house. He’s been mashin’ yo.

  76. A.D. says:

    X(BH) strikes again

    • TurnTwo says:

      not for nothing, but at what point do you think about moving X(BH) (and maybe Cano) in the lineup and drop Abreu and Giambi?

      • A.D. says:

        I’ve been a huge advocate of Cano in the 5 hole, obv hes not the .500 hot now, but I think a lot of protection for him would serve well.

        The put X in the 5 against the lefty lester.

  77. TurnTwo says:


  78. A.D. says:

    no high socks for pudge tonight? Though thats what he was wearing in detroit

  79. Mike A. says:

    Man, Vlad is barely mobile out there. He looks like a giraffe running.

  80. Stewman23 says:

    who’s this guy batting 9th for us?!

  81. A.D. says:

    why pudge why

  82. Mike A. says:

    Good grief. Safe by a mile.

  83. A.D. says:

    Significantly safe

  84. TurnTwo says:

    wow, that Pudge call wasnt close.

  85. Steve says:

    Still shouldn’t have gone, down 7

    • TurnTwo says:

      disagree. stay aggressive.

      • Steve says:

        But if he gets there safe (which he did) it’s 10-4. Even though the call was horrible, he still was called out, and instead of 1st and 3rd, one out, it’s man on 1st with two outs, down 7. Can’t give away any outs. Just like Melky shouldn’t have gone to 3rd on his triple.

      • Joe says:

        It’s not as if the Yankees really have anything to lose, at least this game isn’t close, that would hurt a whole lot more if it was.

  86. Dave P. says:

    how the fuck does he miss that call? as if the angels needed any help.

  87. A.D. says:

    I’ll take not getting a call tonight if we get it a day to win

  88. Jake H says:

    Home plate umpire has sucked all night long.

  89. PsiFighter37 says:

    Thanks for killing the rally, umps.

  90. Joe says:

    Wow that’s are really bad call

  91. McCaff says:

    this is ugly

  92. batty says:

    ..AAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnddddddddd that’s all folks. Have a good one, this is a bit too depressing to watch. Going to throw on What Dreams May Come to lift the ole spirits.

  93. Joe says:

    Why is Britton still pitching? Ramirez is about to be suspended for 3 games and threw one pitch the other day? Get him some work before he sits

    • TurnTwo says:

      Britton isnt long for the bullpen with Bruney about ready to go. use Britton tonight, and Edwar is ok thru the weekend, and by the time you use him, he sits early next week when Bruney comes up.

      • Joe says:

        I was more implying it seems like they don’t want to give the guy a chance to succeed. HIs numbers aren’t terrible, what did this guy do that they refuse give him a shot?

        • TurnTwo says:

          who Edwar? i would think Girardi has shown he isnt afraid to give him work, or put him in increasingly important situations.

          i think they just figured save the other arms in the pen for games that matter over the weekend.

          • Joe says:

            Given his impending conviction in the case of long skinny guy with loose control vs. fat guy who always seems to hit the Yankees, seems like he could use a few innings before he gets spanked.

  94. Marc says:

    What is the problem with Pudge wearing #12?

  95. Joey says:

    like I said, I missed most of the game, but how has Tex looked? Making a good impression for his potential team next year (by beating up on them)?

  96. Mike A. says:

    Uh oh, something ugly is going on in Minny. Turn on BBTN (ESPN2)

  97. Mike A. says:

    Wow, are they seriously playing this song during the Web Gems of the Month? They have no clue what it’s about…

  98. Old Ranger says:

    Tampa and LAA win ball games the way NYY did in ’96 thru 2000. Very good defence, pitching and hitting. By hitting, I don’t mean the HR ball, I mean everyone hitting .280 to .317 and RISP.
    No big star, just everyone being good at their job. How many times have you heard; Speed kills…well how many times must we get beaten (by LAA/TB) like a redheaded stepchild before it gets through to the Yanks and fans. You live by the big bat…you die by the faster bat!
    We now are getting the pitching in order. I think this winter we need to get some (one/two) younger ball players that can play like TBs’ OF. We don’t need guys that hit 30/40 HR’s/BA.260. We need guys that hit .290/.320 and RISP hitters…guys that have speed and good defence. Radical I know but, get rid of Matsui, Bobby, Jason and replace them with very good all round ball players. We would still have A-Rod, Jeter, Jorge, Nage…so, even if they dig into the AAA teams around MLB, there has to be 2-3 guys we could use. Hell, we started this year out with two rookie starting pitches, didn’t pan out…didn’t kill us either, did it? 27/08?

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