Oct
01
Cash: Joba will be a starter in 2009
ByLongtime RAB reader Jamal G. sends along this email:
Just listening in on WFAN, and Brian Cashman said Joba Chamberlain will be a starter for the entire 2009 season. So far, he says that CMW and Joba are the only pitchers guaranteed spots in the Major League rotation.
Booya. Cashman’s a genius.
Update: Here’s the link to the interview.
Thank Mo for blessing the Yankees with a genius as a GM!
aaaaaand you killed it.
hahaha talk about beating a dead pavano
wait, you just implied that pavano was a “horse”.
we all know that isn’t true.
Shame on all those people who were opposed to bring home the cash!
On the other side of the coin, if you were one of those in favor of keeping Joba in the pen . . . well you could always become a Mets fan.
Shame on them?
For wanting someone who didn’t have a hand in Pavano, Igawa, no position players in the system, etc??
Yea shame on them!
you.are.dumb.
This is the best news I’ve heard all day! That is until Boston loses game one later today……
with you all the way
They better lose
Sounds a lot like “Bubba Crosby is our centerfielder in 2006″
LEVERAGE, my friends, LEVERAGE! You can’t let agents know that you’re desperate to fill rotation spots!
That said, I really do hope he’s being serious about it.
That still leaves three open rotations spots. I don’t think making a commitment to starting Joba gives the Yankees more or less leverage than before. Everyone in the world knows he’s on an innings cap also.
This sounds a bit different, if only from a semantic standpoint. In 2005-2006, it was “we’re comfortable going into the season with Bubba Crosby as our CF.” As in, he’s not our first choice, but we’ll make due if we can’t find someone. This time, it’s Cashman saying Joba is guaranteed a spot in the rotation. Tough to go back on that.
How is it leverage to say you’re looking for THREE starters?
I guess if you compare it to saying you’re looking for four starters…
I know it sounds absurd, but think of it this way: Pettitte is very likely to come back, and Hughes is likely to be in the rotation. That leaves 1 open spot that COULD be occupied by Al Aceves in a pinch.
I know, all of this is extremely, extremely speculative, but Cashman is going to try his best to not make the rotation look vulnerable, and to not get locked down in a horrible contract simply because he wasn’t operating from a position of strength.
jorge’s going to be pissed…..
forget Jorge’s temper, what about Goose? Now that I’m scared of…
…on his hands.
ZING!
well played sir.
He did admit that his mind could get changed in the organizational meetings. But as of right now it’s expected that he’ll be a starter. He said the biggest offseason need is to fill in the rest of the rotation. He also said that he liked Girardi having the flexibility that two lefty’s in the pen brings. So i would think that means Marte’s option will be picked up. From the way he spoke, I got the feeling that either Abreu or Giambi will be back next year. But that’s just me reading into his comments.
“From the way he spoke, I got the feeling that either Abreu or Giambi will be back next year. But that’s just me reading into his comments.”
Can you elaborate? As in, what did he say specifically that gave you this idea.
He said explicitly that Giambi’s option won’t be picked up. Basically all he said was that they’ll try to retain them, but won’t be afraid to walk away if the price gets too high.
Thanks.
That was an interview worth listening to. He was feisty, man. Feisty.
Any link to confirm this?
The Fan will have a link up soon. They always put these interviews up on their site.
We added the link to the interview. Now if I could only figure out how to download it to my mp3 player.
http://all-streaming-media.com.....player.htm
dont know if that helps…
Found it.
http://www.wfan.com/pages/1192.....entId=1510
Thanks though.
Welcome back Cash!
To fill out the rotation he means a trade for peavy =] lol kill the farm for him but kevin towers did say noone was untouchable.. its a boatload tho
Look at what the D-Backs had to give up for Haren, then consider that Peavy’s a) younger, b) better, and c) signed to an unbelievably team friendly contract for the next 4 years.
Ooh, I’d love to see the Country Boy in Pinstripes! What a rotation it would be:
Peavy
Joba
Wang
Moose?
Hughes
Kennedy
With the bullpen we have, I like our chances.
how are we getting peavy and keeping hughes?
There’s no way. Hughes, Jackson, Wright, Gardner, Miranda, McAllister and Romine might do the trick. Again, look at what the D-Backs gave up for Haren.
Would you do it Mike ?
I don’t think so, that’s too much. Two guys that project to be rotation stalwarts, a potential AS CF, a stud C, and three guys that should be useful parts … that’s a ton.
With you there I’d rather wait a year or two to deal for him considering the price would go down… Its better for us to sign CC or Burnett than deal for Peavy right now considering it would demolish the farm most likely
Just because one team got a bounty for a player doesn’t mean another will to.
What incentive does San Diego have to deal Peavy? Peavy’s one of the top 5 pitchers in the league, he’s young, and he’s signed for the next 4 years for a ton less money than he’d get on the open market.
You’d need an amazing package to get San Diego to even consider talking to you.
Offhand, the only pitcher I can think of that comes close to Peavy in total value (ability + contract) is James Shields with his insanely team friendly contract. Can anyone think of any other player that would come close?
Off the top of my head, the only one I can think of besides Shields is Haren. His deal runs through 2012 with a dirt cheap 2013 option.
Maybe Oswalt? His deal isn’t as team friendly as Peavy/Shields/Haren, and he’s already starting to slip a little.
And so it is time to break open the books and go after the kind of pitcher they won’t get on the fa market (this on the fact that CC will not want to come to NY.) Peavy is a large order and while I’m not incline to give up Montero, Phil Hughes/Austin Jackson/ Zack Mcallister/ and a throw in like like Sublett or should be a reasonable thing.
I think we’d have to give up more
“(this on the fact that CC will not want to come to NY.)”
I just love it when idle speculation and the musings of bored, lazy, hack journalists get parroted and repeated ad infinitum until they become a facts and not simply just guesses, which is all that they are.
You guess that CC will not want to come to NY. But it’s not a fact. Far, far, far, far from it. And frankly, it’s not even an educated guess.
It’s just a recitation of an anti-Yankee talking point culled from the slanted agendas of numerous Post and Daily News blowhards.
I think it’s pretty safe to say that all else being equal, he would prefer to go to the west coast. Of course, all else is not equal, so it will be interesting to see how important that is to him.
And that’s my point. CC prefers the West Coast and the NL, all things being equal.
All we have to do is make our thing not equal to the other things. That shouldn’t be too hard.
My guess, if the Pads do that they want a big name prospects, so why we may have a large stable that could get it done, they want someone who is closer to being ready, like a LaPorta, Scherzer, Kershaw, etc. I feel like they need to get back a guy they could conceivably play in the majors for most of 2009
I’d think including Hughes in a deal would be enough to satisfy that part of the equation. There’s no reason for them not to take lower guys if they like them, as they’re already a last place team and are planning on cutting payroll (and likely getting worse in the process) for next season.
I wonder if Verlander and/or Magglio are available? Tigers need to cut payroll, and Verlander is about to get very expensive. Magglio costs $18 million for 2009, plus another $3 million to buy out his 2010 option.
Verlander hasn’t been the same since he threw his no-hitter last year.
Verlander and Rick Porcello are going to be the cornerstones of that franchise, along with Miguel Cabrera. Unless Verlander can inspire some Santana-esque offers (which he wont), I don’t see the Tigers dealing him.
To hear the part about Joba, put the Cursor Directly under the “O” in “season”
Just kidding, More like in between the O and N in season.
It’s actually a pretty good interview. i know most of you dont like Francessa; but he gets Cashman to open up about a few things in the 2nd half of the conversation.
Being terrible at analysis doesn’t mean you can’t be a decent reporter.
See 1. Pete Abraham
Abraham is pretty awful in his analysis on a daily basis.
Almost Bill Madden bad.
Sherman is the best in NY. And Francessa is really good too.
My head just exploded from that comment.
did it though? i am not surprised in the least.
Thought the interview was very enlightening. Cash really didn’t give anything away as to the direction he will go is winter, or for what (tampering) he is looking at right now. He left a lot of things up in the air as to retaining people or not.
Honestly think the only people that are assured of being back are; A-Rod, Jeter, Posada, Cano, Gardner (4th OF), CMW, Joba, Mo and BP. The other position players are up for grabs.
We know Jason is not a DH (bad #s), Matsui can DH, Johnny is a liability in the outfield as is Bobby, Molina is great defensively but not an everyday player. We have Brett, Miranda, A-jax(?), Justin, Melky, Cervelli, Cody all waiting in the wings for their chance along with a plethora of pitchers.
I think we will be fine, with a few changes here and there…welcome back Cash! Let’s get the winter games going, it should be exciting. 27/09.
So you think theres more of a chance they trade Nady or Molina than Cano?
I’m against moving Cano, but thats just silly.
Also, lol @ Gardner being on that list.
I never said anything about trading Nady or Molina. I said they weren’t assured of a position on the team. 27/09.
Jason is not a DH (bad #s)
really? .373 OBP/.502 slugging and 32 homers are bad numbers??
As a DH…look at the #s. 27/09.
The Giambi can’t hit as a DH idea is crap. The majority of his time as DH was due to not being at full health. If he was healthy, he played first.
Now, which do you really think contributed more to his performance – the letters next to his name on the lineup card or the injuries?
I like Joba as a starter as long as the Pen does its job.
Matsui is the DH
Brett in Center
Sign Burnett or Sabathia
Sign Texiera
Win the World Series in 2009