Dec
03

Vegas, baby!

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We all know the Winter Meetings begin on Monday in Las Vegas. We know that there will be tons and tons of rumors floating about, as nearly every baseball executive and member of the media will be in attendance. We know that at least a few free agents will sign. We know that a trade or two will go down. We know that there will be a veritable smokescreen of false info spread around.

You know what else I know about the Winter Meetings?

RAB will be there, live, to bring you updates on the action.

As in everything we do, we’re doing it for you guys, the readers who pay attention to the stuff we write and engage in the discussions on our threads. Without you guys, there’s far less motivation to do this.

Yes, this is an open thread, so all topics are safe. However, if you want some direction, why not make some suggestions as to what you want to see from us. Most of you have seen Winter Meetings coverage from the past. What can we do to make it better? How can we approach it that would provide a better overall experience?

So have at it. I’d say play nice, but sometimes it’s more fun when you don’t.

Categories : Open Thread
  • http://liberalmusings.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

    So, if I get you correctly, one or all of you are going to be in Las Vegas to cover the Meetings?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.

      Mike and Joe are going with press passes. I’m stuck taking and studying for finals.

      • E-ROC

        Do u want to be a public defender or a state prosecutor, or something else?

        • whozat

          Consiglieri for the mob? Hm?

          • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

            Brian Cashman = Tom Hagen

            • Eric

              Does that make Joe Girardi Al Neri?

              • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

                Yes.

                Big George = Don Corleone
                Hank = Sonny
                Hal = Michael
                Jennifer Swindal = Connie
                Steve Swindal = Carlo Rizzi
                Joe Torre = Frank Pentangeli
                John Henry = Hyman Roth
                Theo Epstein = Johnny Ola
                Stick Michael = Clemenza
                Michael Kay = Johnny Fontaine

                • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

                  Who’s Luca Brasi?

                • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

                  Howie Spira?

                • steve (different one)

                  amazing.

                • Whitey14

                  Your best post ever my friend!

                • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

                  Whitey, I will now refer to John Henry as “Hyman Roth” going forward.

                • Whitey14

                  This is the business we’ve chosen!

      • http://liberalmusings.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

        Nice!

        And yes, finals suck…they’re coming up for me as well.

        • Eric

          Me three.

      • steve

        if you guys need an intern let me know ! i live in LA and always need an excuse to go to vegas ! heh

  • Marty Puccio

    I think we need to really look at Peavy if the Yanks haven’t already. The Braves probably won’t trade for him now that they got Javy, and I don’t know if the Cubs are truly interested. Jump in now, Cash. Might be able to get him at bargain price.

    And whoever posted the pro-Dunn entry here the other day: You sold me! Let’s go get him for 3/36.

    • whozat

      You are going to be disappointed in Jake Peavy if the Yankees trade for him. It will certainly cost them Jackson and Kennedy, if not Hughes and something else interesting, he WILL require some monetary compensation for waiving his no-trade — thus making his contract less enticing — AND he will not be the sub-3 ERA guy he is in the NL West. Pitchers park in the weakest division in baseball -> neutral park in the most potent division in baseball = dropoff.

      Will he be good? Almost certainly. But I don’t think he will put up the cy-young caliber numbers people are thinking they’ll get. Which will lead to booing. Which could be an issue for someone who already doesn’t really want to come to the AL or to NY.

    • Matt

      Forget Dunn, He sucks. We could get giambi cheaper, Cano is on fire and so is Melky, I say forget about any bats. Only bat I would consider getting is Baldelli. Use him as a part time dh role behond matsui and platoon some outfield positions. He will be good for that. I agree with Peavy being not so great in the AL East, plus his pitching style is scary.

      • Mike P

        Melky’s on fire and Dunn sucks? What do you base that on, batting average? Probably not OPS, home runs or consistency, I’m guessing.

      • Eric

        At least 40 homers for the last 5 years definitely sucks.
        At least 100 batted in 4 of the last 5 years definitely sucks.
        100 walks in 6/8 seasons in his career definitely sucks.
        A career .381 OBP definitely sucks.
        A career .301 EQA definitely sucks.
        A career .383 wOBA definitely sucks.
        A career OPS+ of 130 definitely sucks.

        Yeah Adam Dunn is awful. Don’t want his patient power hitting anywhere near my Yankees, not to mention his relative cheapness and youth. God, why would anyone ever want him?

        • Bryan

          Dunn doesn’t suck, he just has certain drawbacks. Don’t get me wrong, he is amazing at getting on base and spraying the ball just about everywhere. But, he plays very sub-par defense and strikes out a bit too much for my taste. That said he does grind out at bats and makes pitchers work. I would totally take Dunn if the money and years were right, but the only problem is out glut of DH-types on the team, so where would you to put him?

          • Eric

            He was actually just about average in the field by PMR and Baseball Prospectus’ system this year.

            • Bryan

              Whats his arm like?

              • Eric

                I don’t think it’s that great, but I could only find stuff on 2007 OF arm rankings from the Hardball Times.

              • Thomas

                Apparently his arm is bad, which is surprising since he was recruited in high school to be Texas’ quarterback.

          • Old Ranger

            Agree with what you write, conversely, I am more inclined to pass on him then you are. DH is where he belongs but, we have a very good DH (bad knees and all) in Matsui, what do we do with him? Matsui (when healthy) hits around .300 BA w/30HRs, 100 RBI…I am not an expert but, it seems to me it is much better to have him for DH this year (only) and then replace him with Posada (if needed) or someone else…there are always DHs’ out there.
            If they sign Dunn, so be it…they know more then I do, for sure. 27/09.

            • christopher

              but we have a DH with 2 reconstructed knees who cannt play the field.

              Dunn is not as bad a defender as people think and in a good lineup with guys in front of him who get on base and the best player in baseball behind him, I Really think the guy can break out into an all-star.

              It is not as if he is stuck as a DH. He can play an adequate RF in Yankee Stadium and a bit below average at first.

              Most importantly, Matsui will not be a yankee in 2010 and it is doubtful that damon will be.

            • christopher

              unless you are ounting japan -matusi has hit 30 homers a grand total of once and it was 31.

              I loved the guy when healthy but have no faith he can play even 100 games at DH.

              Dont forget he has had a ton of mileage on those knees. he was japans iron man before he came here

              • Old Ranger

                All you say is true, what I was getting at (and doing a bad job of, as usual) is; Matsui is on the team for one more year right, yes…use him until next year. Next year we drop Johnny and him, to be replaced with people that can actually play the good OF and hit (how about Crawford etc.).
                Saving money now, gives us money to use next year on FA OFs’. Who would you rather see in LF, Crawford or Dunn/Nady or Swisher? I would rather have Crawford LF, Nady/A-Jax RF and the guy that played there in Sept. for CF.
                Next years DH will be open for anyone we wish to place there, Miranda, Posada, Swisher maybe even Montero (I know, that’s pushing it). 27/09.

          • http://mvn.com/milb-yankees Eric

            Dunn=Giambi without the injury concerns/steroid history

            • Steve H

              Younger and cheaper and with more position flexibility too.

            • Chris

              Dunn’s not as good as Giambi. With the Yankees, Giambi had 2 injury plagued seasons, 1 good season (2008) and 4 great seasons. Dunn’s best season was only slightly better than Giambi’s 2008, and worse than his 4 great seasons.

              Basically, Dunn is Giambi with a bunch more strikeouts.

              • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

                Well, Dunn’s probably not as good as Giambi because Giambi was all types of juiced up. Virtually nobody was as good as Giambi at his peak, because he had some help.

                Dunn’s still wicked good. Easily one of the top 20 bats in the league, right now, and he’s 28.

        • christopher

          but he doesn’t like the game

      • Steve H

        Here’s an idea. Instead of getting Dunn, let’s get a player who’s almost his extreme opposite (which all the Dunn haters should love). He can be had for low level prospects and the financial cost will be similar in terms of dollars and years. He’s much better runner and fielder, and hits for a much better average. In fact, he’s a career .300 hitter while Dunn, as has been pointed out, is a bad hitter because he has a career average of .247. So Dunn haters, who would you rather have, .300 hitting Juan Pierre, or .247 hitting Adam Dunn?

        • Eric

          I’m not sure if this is serious, but I’m going to treat it as if it is.

          I’ll take the .247 hitting Adam Dunn every day of the week and twice on Sundays. Why? Well, most of his hits go for extra bases. He also knows what a walk is.

          Career EQAs (this includes base running and is on the same scale as batting average):
          Adam Dunn: .301
          Juan Pierre: .256

          Runs Created per 27 outs:
          Adam Dunn: 7.3
          Juan Pierre: 4.8

          If anyone were to seriously suggest that Juan Pierre is better than ADam Dunn, he would have to be slapped in the face with a trout.

          • christopher

            pierre loves the game – have you ever seen him play – he is a fiesty guy, he bunts for hits and wears his hat slightly askew.

            Dunn hates baseball, he just works extremely hard, has improved on defense, and scares the hell out of pitchers, but he hates baseball.

            • Bryan

              Plus hes scrappy! You cant put a price on scrappyness.

              • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

                Juan Pierre is black. Black players are, by definition, not scrappy.

              • Thomas

                I believe the price is 6 years for $40.5M.

                • steve (different one)

                  well done.

          • Steve H

            Oh I am 100% not serious. The arguments that people make against Dunn are his batting average/defense/speed/ and some $$$. So I’m asking these people if they would rather have Pierre, as he is everything Dunn is not. You and I know that that’s a good thing, the “batting average” people probably don’t Of course, I don’t know if Pierre passes DonnieBaseballForTheHall’s “eye” test.

            • Eric

              Yeah I figured.

            • steve (different one)

              if it makes you feel better, i knew you were joking.

              • steve (different one)

                although i admit the idea of slapping someone with a trout is kindof funny.

                • Steve H

                  Totally agree. The next “Dunn Sucks” person gets a 7lb lake trout right across the face.

  • Chris

    I have been twice and truly it is an experience. You guys are going to love it, just don’t forget about your loyal readers!!! Don’t sweat it Ben, I promise there will be others.

  • Steve

    “Most of you have seen Winter Meetings coverage from the past. What can we do to make it better? How can we approach it that would provide a better overall experience?”

    Don’t tell us you’re going to be in Vegas.

    Bastards.

  • al

    “Most of you have seen Winter Meetings coverage from the past. What can we do to make it better? How can we approach it that would provide a better overall experience?”

    give us some reviews of the bunny ranch on the slow days..

    • Steve

      Here, see for yourself

      http://www.bunnyranch.com/

      Maya Love looks pretty good.

      Veronica Vavoom . . . . I dunno. Something tells me that’s not her birth name.

      • al

        im pretty sure theres no Vavoom’s in my phone book.. is that Dutch..

      • christopher

        couldnt go wrong with about 90 percent of them, but their are certainly some that remind you of the strippers you are at the cheap clubs at 11 AM on a Tuesday

        • al

          i dont know.. the last time i was there it was for a “viva las vegas” rockabilly weekend and i saw business cards for $100 for everything at every elevator stop sitting by the ashtrays.. i didnt partake i had my pick downstairs for free.. but it was tempting..

          • christopher

            only 100 dollars —- alot easier than paying for 100 dollars worth of drinks on a girl who you dont know whether she is “working” or not and then having no garuntees

            Defenitly know where i am going for my bachelor party

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          “Is there anyone here who hasn’t had a C-section?”

          • al

            yeah i think theyre all illegals..

            • al

              it will be better than anything you can find on clist..

  • http://jobatheheat jobatheheat

    Do you guys think CC will get any other offers? From who? I think the Yankees pretty much trumphed every one with our starting bid. Good job Cashman

  • Matt

    Forget Dunn, He sucks. We could get giambi cheaper, Cano is on fire and so is Melky, I say forget about any bats. Only bat I would consider getting is Baldelli. Use him as a part time dh role behond matsui and platoon some outfield positions. He will be good for that. I agree with Peavy being not so great in the AL East, plus his pitching style is scary..

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

      Is this sarcastic?

      Cano is on fire and so is Melky, I say forget about any bats.

      Is there a word for a phrase or sentence that seems to clearly indicate the sarcastic tone of the larger, overall piece? If not, there should be. A “sarcasticlause”, perhaps?

      • A.D.

        they are on fire… in the South American leagues… which is just like MLB, if MLB was the Mexican league

      • http://www.freewebs.com/ps3tf2/ Double-J

        Does sarcasticlause leave colons in your stocking?

    • pat

      Forget Dunn, He sucks

      Didnt make sense the first time you posted it either.

  • Eric

    Cashman is so money and he doesn’t even know it.

  • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

    Will you even be able to report on anything you see there? Or will you be on a gag order?
    After all, what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas, as they say.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Gag order? Only if the price is right. ;)

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

        Cotton McKnight: Looks like it’s gonna be a two-on-one, a ménage á trois of pain.
        Pepper Brooks: Usually you pay double for that kind of action, Cotton.

  • christopher

    what is plan B if they miss out on the three big pitchers? Personally, I think if CC walks they are screwed. Please keep us up to date on any team making him an offer

    and what exactly is the approach this team is taking this offseason. early on comments from hank and cash made it appear they would be super-aggressive. As i see it now it seems they are interested only in CC and burnett under the right circumstances.

    do they have any plans to upgrade the offense. I would make a three year offer to Dunn at about 13 million ( a somehat disounted rate) and i think he and his agent jump on it, if not they may be able to wait him out.

    do they get deeper into peavy discussions now that the braves seem out of it as do the cubs?

    finally, do they have any interest in Manny? Sure he is expensive but when you consider the loss of both the damon and matsui contract next year (replaced with AJAX and Gardner at MLB minimun) the deal makes sense if they are willing to tough it out for one year. works out even better if they get peavy as his salry this year is rather low.

    Any interest in Sheets Randy, Penny, or Freddie Garcia — the price of each dropping as you go down the list. Sheets like Dunn is another guy I think they can have quick at a discount if they pounce on him.

    Basically, I want to know the chances they walk away with 2 pitchers and 2 hitters, 3 pitchers and no hitters, 3 pitchers 1 hitter, or 2 pitchers and 1 hitter. Where are they drawing the line finacially.

    • Mike P

      Sounds like you’re mistaking RAB for the mind reading fly on the wall in Cashman’s office.

      • christopher

        they asked for suggestions on topics – just giving them some thoughts

  • christopher

    I cannot for the life of me understand why the people who love hughes, do not like peavy. Peavy is the best case scenario for what hughes could be. If the yankees can get him, why on earth would you not want him especially with the inflation of ACE salaries. look at the contracts and their progression from moose, to hampton, to zito, to santana and soon to be to CC.

    • whozat

      “I cannot for the life of me understand why the people who love hughes, do not like peavy. ”

      You see everything in black and white.

      I don’t “not like” Peavy. I think that he’s a very good pitcher, but that he won’t be Cy-Young caliber in the AL East. I don’t think Hughes will be in the near future either — if ever. However, I love Hughes because I think he can be very good too…and be a staple in the Yankee rotation for the next ten years, probably for less money than it will take to have Peavy for the next four years. The money it would take to pay Peavy could be spent on, say, Dunn or Tex.

      • christopher

        you say i see everything in black and white and here you saying Hughes can be a staple in the rotation for ten years with little to no evidence to support that.

        I am not saying he will not, but Peavy regardless of where he pitched has won a Cy Young, is in his prime, and has established himself as one of the games top pitchers. To assume his numbers may increase is a perfectly valid assuption, but to assume he will not be cy young caliber is a much larger assumption than “Hughes being very good and a staple for ten years”

        and in fact I believe that aquring peavy would make it more likely that the yankees would acquire a big bat because his salary next season is 8 million – much less than the cost of burnett, lowe oreven sheets.

        now i understand that his salary escalates, but as it does the team loses Damon’s 13 million and Matsui’s 13 million.

        Peavy allows them flexibility for 2009 while being better than any starter available not named Sabathia. The roster flexibility going further comes form the loss of the inflated contracts of Damon and Matsui.

        So, in essence, I am saying that aquiring peavy makes it more likely the team can get a slugger on a short term deal (like Dunn or Manny) than adding burnett would.

        and just so you know I would like to keep Hughes and I am in the minority because I do not want Tex. He is great, but there are many good young firstbasemen out there and I don’t want to be locked into a 8, 9, 0r 10 year deal again for a firstbaseman

    • Eric

      Because it would cost money and prospects, Peavy pitches in a pitcher’s park in a pitcher’s division in a pitcher’s league.

      He also has some injury history and his delivery is a time bomb.

      Phil Hughes is young, cost controlled, and has incredible upside. The practice of trading away great prospects for veterans is what got the Yankees into the precarious situation that they’re in now.

      • http://mvn.com/milb-yankees Eric

        What great prospects did the Yankees trade away? And no, I’m not arguing with myself.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          It’s not that they traded great prospects, it’s that they signed so many older free agents to huge deals that they didn’t have any first round picks for a long time. Plus whatever early picks they had, they were spending them on low-ceiling, cheap college guys.

        • Eric

          Perhaps great wasn’t the right word. And perhaps trade wasn’t the right transaction.

          I meant the consistent targeting of veterans as opposed to developing players has put the Yankees in a hole.

          Alright, so how are we going to settle this? I say a rumble.

          Zip guns? Knives? Rubber hoses?

          …garbage?

        • A.D.

          Great would be strong, Ledee, Westbrook, Claussen, Al Leiter, Eric Milton, Christian Guzman …. None of these guys are going to the HOF, and for the most part the trades made them better, its basically they ignored the farm.

      • christopher

        Again, I am not advocating trading Hughes and yes it will cost prospects, but with the current rate of inflation among Ace starters, Peavy would be a relative bargain. Something that would be nice to have on the team.

        I would love to get him and hold Hughes, but I will not refuse Peavy based on the 27th best prospect in baseball. that makes no sense to me

        • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

          What if the 27th best prospect in baseball plays a position that you desperately need, and there are no other reasonable alternatives availiable in free agency or trade to replace him if you trade him away, while Peavy plays a position of relative strength, and there are several other alternatives at his position that you can acquire through free agency without having to give away any of your valuable prospects?

          What then?

          • christopher

            is there a garuntee that AJax will be great centerfielder?

            Peavy is a great pitcher and the last time I checked the 2009 yanks have only 2 starters and three guys who can play center.

            I am not advocating trading the farm and when peaby initially became available I wanted no part because of the pricetag, but Towers has now painted himself in a corner and I feel the Yankees can get an accptable deal for peavy.

            If you want to argue against peavy – argue that he will never ast beyond the sixth inning – dont argue that he will become a bad or even average pitcher in the AL East

            • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

              is there a garuntee that AJax will be great centerfielder?

              Nope. Good likelihood he’ll be at least and acceptable ML centerfielder, though. We’ll likely need an acceptable CF more than we’ll need Peavy, especially if we have CC, Wang, and Joba at the top of our rotation. I’d rather have three good pitchers and one acceptable centerfielder than 4 good pitchers and no acceptable centerfielder.

              Peavy is a great pitcher and the last time I checked the 2009 yanks have only 2 starters and three guys who can play center.

              That’s half true. Peavy is good, yes, and we only have two starters, yes, but we have lots of decent options in free agency that cost nothing but money, and lots of young arms with tons of upside. We have three guys who can play center, but none of them are that great. Jackson has a damn good chance to be better than all of them.

              • christopher

                if you think peavy is “good” not “great” than there is no point in us arguing the point. we’ll have to agree to disagree

                • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

                  No, I think Peavy is great. I don’t know that he’ll continue to be great, but I think he’s great. If he was a free agent, I’d be all for going all out for him. If we didn’t have to give up Jackson, I’d be all for going all out for him.

                  I just think that, while Peavy is wicked good, Jackson ultimately is probably more valuable to our team, because long-term wise, we’re pitching-rich and outfielder-poor, and all things considered, ace pitchers hit the market more frequently than good centerfielders.

                  There will be another Peavy. Hell, there was Santana last year, there’s Sabathia this year. Jackson could be a Granderson, and Granderson isn’t hitting the market soon at all.

                • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

                  Getting Peavy is a WANT. Having a centerfielder of the future is a NEED.

                  That’s all.

          • christopher

            also remember that the yankees are dealing with a budget this season and his 2009 salary makes him extremely attractive and worth giving up some prospects

    • A.D.

      People don’t like what the Yanks will have to give up to get Peavy, not the physical player

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

      I cannot for the life of me understand why the people who love hughes, do not like peavy.

      We already have Hughes. We don’t need to give up anything to get him.
      We don’t currently have Peavy. We’d have to give up prospects, and money, to get him.

    • steve (different one)

      because for every Hughes you develop and keep, you get to sign a CC Sabathia.

      simple as that.

      star FA players make $15-20M these days. if your payroll is between 150-200M, you can only sign 10-12 star free agents.

      the other half of your roster has to be young, internally developed cost controlled talent.

      you NEED Hughes, Cano, Joba, Kennedy, etc. to allow you to have A-Rod, Sabathia, Jeter, etc.

      that doesn’t mean you should never trade prospects for veterans, when the right deal comes, you pull the trigger. but in general, the closer those prospects are to the majors, the harder you need to think about trading those guys.

      • christopher

        you are absolutly correct, but a major point I am making is that it is rare to be able to trade for a relatively young proven major league Ace who is below his market value.

        prospects are absolutly needed to allow for the signing of a CC. My major point is I would rather give up 75 cents on the dollar for peavy and pay him 16 million AAV than to sign AJ Burnett for 16 million or Lowe for 14 million.

        and again he offers roster flexibility for this season when we need it because we have two overpaid outfielders/DHs in Matsui and Damon.

        • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

          a major point I am making is that it is rare to be able to trade for a relatively young proven major league Ace who is below his market value.

          It’s also rare to have a young, cost controlled defensive plus centerfielder with a bat that’s not a liability. Good centerfielders are a rare commodity, like aces. We shouldn’t be in the habit of giving them away.

        • steve (different one)

          i’m not saying they shouldn’t trade for Peavy. i’d love to have Peavy.

          but…Cashman has been down this road with SD numerous times and he keeps hitting the same dead end: Peavy won’t come to NY.

          the annoying thing? i bet Cashman could work out a VERY nice trade for Peavy because San Diego simply can’t find anyone else to trade with.

          • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

            I am SO MISERABLE RIGHT NOW, San Diego!!! It’s so damn HOT! MILK WAS A BAD CHOICE!!!

            • steve (different one)

              that is one of the best lines.

              • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

                Brian Fantana: Don’t get me wrong, I love the ladies. I mean they rev my engines, but they DON’T belong in the newsroom.
                Champ Kind: It is anchorMAN, not anchorLADY. And that is a scientific FACT!!!
                Brick Tamland: I DON’T KNOW WHAT WE’RE YELLING ABOUT!!!
                Brian Fantana: You’re with us, Ron, what do you think?
                Ron Burgundy: She… Sh… It’s TERRIBLE! SHE HAS BEAUTIFUL EYES, AND HER HAIR SMELLS LIKE CINNAMON!!!
                Brick Tamland: LOUD NOISES!!!!

  • pat

    They pretty much hand out press passes willy nilly nowadays eh?

    • Mike P

      That’s right. Want one? Although you might just have to start one of the most popular team blogs in Baseball.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Hey man, we had to kiss some serious ass to get those things, and Joe had to do some stuff he’s not too proud of. They didn’t even give him the video tape after they promised it to him!

      • Steve

        Edited by RAB: That word’s too strong. Sorry. Call him a fanny bandit or a silly nanny or something.

      • pat

        Mike who do you approach about getting press passes? The yankees org? Did you have to do like a powerpoint presentation showing how much you guys rock?

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          You have to ask Joe, he tackled that part. I know we had to make an extremely compelling case as too why we should get them. Keith Law also hooked it up, he gave us some pointers and stuff.

          • http://liberalmusings.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

            well, you guys are the premier yankees blog…you’ve gotten shout-outs on espn insider blogs…the whole blogosphere knows who you guys are…seems pretty compelling to me.

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

              Yeah, I know we played it like we weren’t a blog, rather like we were a small, upstart independent baseball reporting agency or something like that. When you say “blog” the dinosaurs freak out.

              I can’t wait to ask my first press conference question.

              “Hi Cash, Mike A., River Ave. Blues. Oliver Perez? WTF??? Thanks.”

              • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

                Joe: Hello?
                BBWA Official: You had a question about the winter meetings, sir?
                Joe: Yeah, we were interested in obtaining two press passes.
                BBWA Official: Two press passes… Is this a blog?
                Joe: SHIT, IT’S MURRAY CHASS!!!! WE’VE BEEN MADE!!! ABORT, ABORT!!!

              • Steve

                I guess “Vandalay Industries” was taken, huh?

          • pat

            No shit, wow thats pretty frickin sweet.

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

        Hey man, we had to kiss some serious ass to get those things, and Joe had to do some stuff he’s not too proud of.

        Sponge bath for Peter Abraham FTW!

        • http://liberalmusings.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

          Oh Jesus that’s just frickin’ gross….

  • http://jobatheheat jobatheheat

    Do you guys see any upside in aquiring Baldelli. What are the yankees even talking to him for?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      As a 4th OFer/platoon DH against tough lefties, yeah, there’s a ton of upside. He can’t play everyday, but he can still hit the snot out of the ball.

      It’s not like it’ll take a long term, big money deal either.

      • http://jobatheheat jobatheheat

        Maybe as a bench player. Build our bench.

    • E-ROC

      A Gardner/Rocco Baldelli would be a nice platoon CF.

      • Eric

        Yeah it would, but there’s pretty much no way Rocco could even do a platoon at this point.

        • Steve H

          Yeah, even playing 9 innings is really a a struggle for him. I’d love to see them sign him to a hugely incentive laden long term deal, just in case Dr’s can fix what’s wrong with him.

    • steve (different one)

      i’d love to sign him, but he has Boston written all over him.

      he’s from Rhode Island, loves the Sox, they need a 4th OFer, and he fits their goal of building an all white roster.

      he’ll sign with the Sox, mark it down.

      • christopher

        lived in RI for a year…he may as well be canadian

        It would be nice to drive up the price on him by showing interest just as the Sox seem to do to us year in and year out

        • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocco_Baldelli

          Rocco Daniel Baldelli (born September 25, 1981 in Woonsocket, Rhode Island) is a Major League Baseball outfielder who is currently a free agent. Baldelli is a New England area fan favorite and is known for his outstanding speed and throwing ability. In 2004, he was inducted into the Rhode Island Italian-American Hall of Fame. Rocco has played his whole career (until now) with the Tampa Bay Devil Rays (Rays).

          Rocco Baldelli attended the PEGASUS Gifted and Talented middle-school program at Lasalle Academy in Providence before switching to Bishop Hendricken in Warwick, Rhode Island, for high school. There he posted a 4.25 grade point average and often tutored other students in physics. He was also a three sport star, excelling at baseball, basketball, and volleyball and was selected in the first round of the 2000 amateur draft…

          That sounds he lived in Rhode Island for more than “a year”…

          • steve (different one)

            i thought that at first, but re-reading it i think christopher meant that HE (christopher) lived in RI for a year…

            also, is anyone here not named “steve” or “chris”?

            • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

              “lived in RI for a year…he may as well be canadian”

              That’s what made me think christopher was referring to Rocco and not himself.

            • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

              also, is anyone here not named “steve” or “chris”?

              Austrian Gay TV and Peter LaCock?

            • Whitey14

              I’ve kept it hidden all this time, because I don’t want you guys to hunt me down and pee on my Red Sox hat, but I confess my name is actually Christopher too. At work and at home I’m Christopher, but to all my friends, I’m Whitey, always have been.

              • steve (different one)

                i knew it!

          • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

            The Rhode Island Italian American Hall of Fame? That’s something that goes right to the top of the good ol’ resume.

          • christopher

            i meant i lived in RI –sorry for the confusion

  • Mike Pop

    I want to see pictures !!! Get those pics of Theo “Einstein” Epstein in compromising positions… You can be that guy !

  • A.D.

    Does anyone know what a subscription to baseball-reference gets the subscriber?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Access to the play index, which is fun. You could use to look for players who hit .300 with 25 HRs and less than 50 strikeouts in a season while playing at least 20 games at second base and 50 behind the plate, weird stuff like that.

      • A.D.

        excel output?

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          No, but you can drop it right into a spreadsheet very easily. Email Ben, he has one. I just bug him to look stuff up for me whenever I need it.

          • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

            DonnieBaseballHallofFame is grinding his teeth with rage right now at this convo…

            • pat

              I totally gavrilo princep-ed that whole conversation.

  • A.D.

    With the Giants apparently willing to part with Sanchez (for Jorge Cantu none the less), is there anyway the Yankees can match-up with them

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      No. Cantu’s a 30 HR guy, but he’s a terrible OBP guy. The deal makes sense for both teams really, but the Marlins are definitely getting the better end of the deal, assuming it goes down as reported.

      • http://liberalmusings.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

        Cantu > Jacobs?

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          Probably. He could at least play some semblance of defense.

          • A.D.

            and can play 2nd & 3rd if necessary

  • Bonos

    Re Dunn, I’m puzzled, where is it that he is going to play? Nady, Damon and Dunn. Boy, that’s an OF for the ages, who catches the ball. 150 to 200 SO’s, 236 avg to go with Swisher. What, we pine for another Giambi? With 40 HRs he barely squeaks into 100 RBI in the bandbox of Cincinnati. Think he’l do as well in the AL east? Isn’t it the idea to get better?

    • Eric

      He could either DH or play left, where he was average defensively this year.

      Yeah, he strikes out a lot, but he’s also had 100+ walks six times in an eight year career.

      He’s had at least 40 HRs for the last five years. Name one Yankee who’s done that lately.

      He played for the Reds. They’re a bad baseball team. If he had good hitters in front of him (like he would with Damon and Jeter), he’d probably drive in a lot more.

      Adam Dunn is an underrated player.

      • pat

        We could even put him in right which is a less challenging defensive position. Left in yankee stadium gets pretty cavernous which is why damon is better suited for left and dunn in right.

        • Bonos

          Okay, so what about Nady and Swisher? Nady and Dunn are slooow. Dunn is paper power.

          • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

            Nady in left, Swish in center, Dunn in right.

            Not as bad defensively as you think. None of them are Denard Span, no, but none of them are poor defenders.

          • steve (different one)

            can i ask you want this means? “paper” power?

            it’s the second time someone has used that word.

            he has 206 HRs in the last 5 seasons. what am i missing?

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

              Well, I could be wrong, but I believe paper power is an old, old wooden ship that was used during the Civil War era.

              • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

                Brian Fantana: That was one crazy party. I am hung over!
                Champ Kind: Tell me about it.. this morning, I woke up and I shit a squirrel. I mean it. Literally. Hell of it is, the damn thing is still alive!. So now, I’ve got this shit-covered-squirrel running around my office–don’t know what to name it.
                Brick Tamland: O, I’m sorry, Champ, I think I ate your chocolate squirrel.

                • steve (different one)

                  was that part cut from the original version? DVD only?

                • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

                  Yeah. In the movie, I think Champ says instead “Tell me about it… I woke up in some Japanese family’s rec room, and they would NOT stop screaming.”

          • pat

            Paper power counts for just as many runs as scissor power and rock power mind you.

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

            • steve (different one)

              i would think paper power > rock power, yet scissor power > paper power.

      • christopher

        RBIs and especially runs are also a product of the lineup around you. When you have 40 homers and only 100 RBI that is an idictment on the players hitting in front of you. Having an OBP of .400 and scoring 76 or so runs is also an indictment on your team. His OBP is near identical to Ryan Howards, but look at how many runs Howard scored

        • Steve H

          Ryan Howard is a great comparison in both runs and rbi. Look at the guys hitting both in front and behind Howard. Put Dunn in that spot with similar power and obp, and what do you know, he’s near the top of the league in runs and rbi. It’s like magic or something.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          Howard’s OBP was .339 last year, Dunn’s was .386. The number of runs a player scores is directly related to their OBP and how crappy the players batting behind them are. Howard had Pat Burrell behind him. Adam Dunn had Edwin Encarnacion/Mark Reynolds behind him.

      • Chris

        If the Yankees passed on Giambi, why would they now go after Dunn?

        • steve (different one)

          ??

          Giambi is 9 years older than Dunn.

        • Steve H

          Dunn will come cheaper, can play OF and 1B, is less of an injury risk, and is the most consistent power hitter in baseball.

          Any further explanation required?

    • A.D.

      I don’t think the AL east will change anything, if anything tougher lineups will cause pitchers to pitch to him instead of “not giving in”.

      It would be a bit of a log jam/ bad defense, but it’s something you get by with now, because he’s available now. And sets you up next year with more bargaining power when Nady, Dunn, and Matsui are all FA. You still have Dunn, Swish, AJax, Gardner… so you’re not forced to sign anyone

    • steve (different one)

      yes, we pine for another Giambi.

      but this one is 10 years younger, more athletic, and will cost less money.

      where do i sign up?

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

        J.P. Riccardi is rolling over in his maple-syrup-filled grave right now.

        • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

          Shit, I want to see us sign Dunn for no other reason that to watch him annihilate the Jays 19 times a year.

          That would be Hilarious.

          Michael Kay: IT IS HIGH, IT IS FAR, IT, IS, GONE!!!, SEE YA, A LONG BOMB FOR ADAM DUNN! That was a moonshot into the upper deck here at the Rogers Center, amazing! This guy really loves the game and has a passion for playing, look at the joy on Adam Dunn’s face!!! He plays the game the right way, and I’m sure I speak for all Yankee fans in saying that we are happy our General Manager brought this guy here!

          • E-ROC

            A DONKEY BOMB????!!!!!! or something lame.

            • steve (different one)

              seriously, i don’t think this argument has been made often enough: Dunn’s nickname is BIG DONKEY.

              how great would that be?

              go to BB-REF.com and type “Donkey”….guess what you get.

              • E-ROC

                Type in Puma and guess what you get. That’s some cool stuff.

                • steve (different one)

                  if you type in “Cougar” you should get A-Rod….

                • E-ROC

                  Now thats funny!

                • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

                  Okay…

                  This has some offensive language, but bear with me.

                  I remember reading some story about player nicknames, and the article (don’t remember who) mentioned that back in the day, when racism was more prevalent and more out in the open, a lot of dark/olive skinned white baseball players were nickamed “Nig” (like Nig Clarke, Nig Cuppy, Nig Lipscomb, etc) because they were darker than the average white person, “Nig” being short for Nigger.

                  If you type in “Nig” in the BR.com search box, it will take you to a page listing these, as well as other players, who had that nickname.

                  Now, type in “Nigger”. Seriously, do it. I promise, you won’t be offended.

                  WOW.

                • E-ROC

                  I guess that is what happens when you say bad things. You eat soap. I do not miss those days.

                • Thomas

                  If you type in grit, you get Bobby Grich.

                  If you type in clutch, you get Tommy Henrich aka The Clutch or Old Reliable.

                  Odd that neither were scrappy or bad.

                • steve (different one)

                  type “shit”

                • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

                  That’s awesome too.

                • pat

                  http://www.baseball-reference......pu01.shtml

                  Charles Alston “Pussy” Tebeau

          • Mike R.

            I can hear Sterling now. “IT IS HIGH, IT IS FAR, IT, IS, GONE!!! Stick a fork in it. That ball is Dunn. Adam Dunn!”

            • Mike Pop

              Heh

    • Steve H

      You do realize that RBI’s don’t have much to do with anything. Stick Dunn in Ryan Howards spot in the Phils lineup this year and he would have had 130+ RBI. Of Dunn’s 100 RBI, 40 of them were himself. Is it his fault the guys in front of him don’t get on base?

  • huuz

    Mike, Joe:

    if you talk to any Yankee’s brass, ask them if the team uses any of the services from ASMI biometrics.

    I read about this in this article regarding Tim Lincecum:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....707/2.html

    here is quote about what they do:

    “ASMI generates a report with 42 precise measurements, such as elbow, hip and torso rotational speeds, shoulder abduction (how many degrees the shoulder pulls away from its axis) and stride length. ASMI can find possible injury risks by comparing those numbers with the normative range for pitchers”

    it also mentions that ” About eight to 10 major league teams, including the Red Sox, Indians and A’s”

    but nothing about the Yanks.

    essentially this is quantitative scouting…something that is long overdue for a $6.5B industry.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      I will ask, that’s interesting.

    • Steve

      Rick Peterson is hooked up with 2 companies that do similar work

      http://www.nypost.com/seven/11.....htm?page=0

      and Dr James Andrews has been doing this frame by frame mechanical stuff for years.

  • Brooklyn Ed

    Add the Yankees to the list of teams interested in free-agent outfielder Rocco Baldelli. The Rays, Red Sox and Phillies also are pursuing Baldelli, who came back from a rare neuromuscular disease with the Rays last season. Baldelli, 26, could serve the Yankees as a right-handed hitting alternative to Hideki Matsui in the DH spot, and also play outfield against certain left-handed pitchers

    source

    ——

    Baldelli platooning with Matsui and possibly Gardner? At least some people’s wishes have been answered. Cashman sure have some interesting plans. I hope Baldelli does sign with the Yanks.

    • pat

      matsui’s obp and slg are better than baldellis against rhp and lhp

    • Steve H

      Matsui does just fine against lefties, with our DH/OF logjam as it is, Matsui is not the guy who needs a platoon partner. If he’s healthy, his bat needs to be in the lineup full time against all pitchers.

    • steve (different one)

      make it happen Cash!

      still think he’ll end up in Boston.

      • Reggie C.

        would rather see Baldelli a red sox than Tex …

        • steve (different one)

          true…

          • Brooklyn Ed

            probably Melky will be traded?

    • christopher

      like the article, but why would the yankees interest in dunn be predicated on them missing out on pitching targets. Earlier in the offseason I read that the yankees wanted to have a payroll in the 180-185 million dollar range.

      Could they not land 2 starters and Dunn.

      • steve (different one)

        ehh, there is nothing more there than the author speculating…

  • Manimal

    Come on Joe, Your in Vegas because you want to be there and The meetings is just your reason :D

    • Manimal

      didnt finish… lets try that again.

      Come on Joe, Your in Vegas because you want to be there and the meetings is just the reason your telling us. :D

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Good for Petr Prucha. About time he found the back of the net.

  • Steve

    Worst game show contestants ever.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

  • Dave

    Wow – the teams are fronting like they have no money to spend even on arbitration for quality players and they are staying in vegas for the meetings. I guess they have some money hidden away after all. Time to break the piggy bank and make an offer this off season is getting mind numbingly boring.

    • E-ROC

      The GMs are fans of Barabara Streisand and Tom Jones.

    • Steve H

      TSJC’s burrito, still not done.

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

        Urge to kill, rising…

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

      the teams are fronting like they have no money to spend even on arbitration for quality players and they are staying in vegas for the meetings.

      What, is Vegas on the moon? People making 5 figures go to Vegas all the time. Does it cost 140M over 6 years to go stay in a hotel in Vegas for three days now?

      • http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v621/134/99/513321182/n513321182_2118948_7574.jpg Nady Nation

        I got an email today from JetBlue offering round trip airfare and 2 nights at the Flamingo in the center of the strip for $248. Those type of deals seem affordable for MLB team executives.

  • http://thechuckknoblog.blogspot.com Charlie

    You guys are a great site. Coming from a fellow blogger, I am glad you are expanding and covering the winter meetings. I am so tired of Pete Abe and I hope you become the #1 online reader in Yankee up to date news.

    Charlie

    thechuckknoblog.blogspot.com

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=15305165&ref=profile Doug

      This dude also does some great legal commentary, check out how he lobs law bombs at the Chuck Knoblauch Law Blog

      • http://thechuckknoblog.blogspot.com Charlie

        What the hell does that mean?

  • Bonos

    Giambi didn’t get to 100 RBI and the Yankee front four all had high OBP. As I said Dunn is paper power. In a tight game, man on second, no outs, a walk pads the OBP and sets up a DP. Giambi anyone? Personally, I want the runner moved over. Hitting should be situational not stat padding or averaging 175 SOs a year. As Billy Martin said, score one, you need two to beat me. Three teams above us – Angels, Sox, Rays – no Dunns or Giambis in the field.

    • Steve H

      Ok, you said paper power yet never explained it. Your Giambi example sucks because #1 it was a one season sample size, and #2, he had 96 RBI in only 458 ab’s, which if RBI’s were a very important stat, would have been impressive. The fact that this is a large amount of RBI’s per at-bat proves that RBI’s are completely overrate. If Giambi, with the same exact performance had accumulated 600 ab’s last year, he would have had 125 RBI’s, which would have left you impressed I guess? Your case holds no water, the defense is wrong.

      • Thomas

        http://www.amazon.com/gp/produ.....038;sr=1-3

        Either that or it is like the power of cheese.

      • Steve H

        In fact, Jason Giambi’s RBI’s per at-bat in 2008 would place him 14th ALL TIME!! His RBI’s per at bat was better than his career average, of which he places 24th all time. As well all no, Giambi left quite a bit of runners on base this year. Had Dunn hit in his spot in the lineup with those obp guys in front of him, he would have had 130+ RBI’s.

        RBI=Useless counting stat.

      • A.D.

        Why I don’t agree with it, I like the term “Paper Power”

        • Steve H

          In what context are you going to use it? I agree, it has potential, just not the way it’s currently being used.

          • A.D.

            I dunno… but it will come.

            It could be used for prospects that just don’t translate.

            Andy Marte had paper power

            • Steve H

              Now that I can see. I think it definitely has to be a prospect that has been traded that doesn’t pan out. Such as, we turned prospect CJ Henry into Bobby Abreu, and the trade worked out great in the end, as Henry only had paper power. Much like paper money, it’s irrelevant until something is done with it.

              • Mike Pop

                Henry–ugh

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

      “paper power”
      “a walk pads the OBP and sets up a DP”
      “stat padding”

      DonnieBaseballHallofFame, is that you?

      • UWS

        No, it’s Joe Morgan.

    • pat

      Same scenario except bases are empty-. Adam dunn draws a walk. We pinch run justin christian. He easily steals 2nd and scores on a single or is sacrificed over to 3rd. Now u have an uber quick runner on 3rd one out.
      See this specific scenario game goes both ways.. ya dig?

    • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

      Dude, I see what you’re saying. However, the folks here – myself included – have not the brains to quite grasp your specific point of view. Might I suggest this following blog and its respective readers: http://yankees.lhblogs.com/

  • Conor

    Hey Everybody,
    My friend and I have started a new Yankees blog called 6 pound 8 ounce Baby Joba. We were wondering if you all could take a look, respond to some posts, and just check it out! Its our first attempt at a blog, so we would love some input and some hits!
    There is the link-
    http://6pound8ouncebabyjoba.blogspot.com/

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

      “6 pound 8 ounce Baby Joba” = Joey Jo-Jo Junior Shabadoo

    • UWS

      You might want to reconsider the color scheme: the dark blue on black background is extremely hard to read.

      • Conor

        any other advice?

      • A.D.

        agreed

        • Conor

          what would be a better font color?

          • UWS

            Try the ol’ black-on-white. Or, if you’re dead set on a dark background, do a light blue font.

          • A.D.

            white… white on the dark background

            • Conor

              i’ve just done that. thanks again for the advice. is the content ok? i just started today mind you. hahah

  • Conor

    what would be better?

  • nick blasioli

    river ave blues is the best web site for baseball news…when i read it here,,,i believe it..you guys are up to date and very informative…..i say keep up the good work as i for one will be reading the blogs…

  • Bonos

    People, I seem to have hit a sore spot, re Dunn. Here I’m questioning and I get this piling on. The guy is an oxymoron, a pylon OF. Where is this younger more athletic player. I say again 175 SO – sounds like a rally killer to me. By the way how was Giambi with men on base, I wonder what Dunn’s was. If Dunn is that valuable how come no interest last year and this year, management can’t all be dumb.

    • Steve H

      Ok, earlier you mentioned Giambi’s RBI’s. Ryan Howard has ranked 1st, 2nd, and 1st in the NL in RBi’s the last 3 years. He has also ranked 2nd, 1st, and 2nd in strikeouts. The correlation you are pointing to is simply not there.

      • Steve H

        That and, the 2 most certain ways of scoring runs are #1 Hitting home runs, and #2 getting on base. Adam Dunn is great at these two things. Do you know what’s really rally killing? Robinson Cano’s .305 OBP, regardless of his 65 strikeouts.

    • steve (different one)

      Dunn hit .241/.418/.511 with RISP.

      • Steve H

        Yes please.

    • christopher

      there is interest, but team’s are going to wait out the 2nd tier players believing they will get a discount later in the off-season. If the winter meetings are as slow as i thik they will be – i garuntee unmaed reps from the players union will cry collusion. It is for this reason that I think throwing an offer at him right away could work in their benefit as he may fear not finding the money later.

      not many teams have expressed interest in manny , sheets, or sabthia. odes that make them less thanndesireable.

      I am going to continue my dunn crusade as i think in the right line-up he is a perenial all star

      • Conor

        i totally agree

      • http://jobatheheat jobatheheat

        sign me up Dunn for 3yrs=36 mil

    • steve (different one)

      nah, this is a pretty mild “piling on” by RAB standards.

      you make some good points:
      1. where would he play
      2. what about his defense
      3. if he is so good, how come there was so little interest in him?

      but you also make some not so good points
      1. you imply that it is BAD to walk with a man on 2B. it isn’t.
      2. “paper power”? no, he has REAL LIFE power. tons of it.
      3. the RBI argument. that’s more a function of having crappy teammates

      here is the deal with Dunn: yes, there are better players who are more “well rounded”. Teixeira is better. but we don’t know if we can sign CC and Teixeira. it seems unlikely. but PERHAPS, they can get Dunn as a cheaper alternative. that’s all.

      • Bonos

        Baseball is all about situations and percentages, stats are valuable but by their nature is limited. A game winning RBI is not the same as a blowout and so on. Paper Power looks good on paper.

        • steve (different one)

          here, you might find this interesting:

          http://actasports.com/sows.php

          teams scored, on average, a half run more per inning when they had a man on 1st and 2nd and 0 outs vs. a man on 3B with 1 out.

          in other words, if you come up with a man on 2B and no outs, it is WAY more valuable to walk than it is to move the runner over.

          • Steve H

            on Paper

            • steve (different one)

              you are so wise. you’re like a miniature buddha covered with hair.

              • Steve H

                Like Michael Scott on the Office having his catch phrase of “that’s what she said”, I am considering my catch phrase to be “on paper” any time any extremely meaningful stat is mentioned.

        • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

          Baseball is all about situations and percentages, stats are valuable but by their nature is limited. A game winning RBI is not the same as a blowout and so on. Paper Power looks good on paper.

          Seriously, stop fucking with us. You’re DonnieBaseballHallofFame. Admit it.

  • http://jobatheheat jobatheheat

    Dunn= dh for when Matsui leaves. Also a decent fill in of

  • Bonos

    Look I hate players that play bat. The Yankees were crappy in the field last year and Dunn is more of the same. The team has to compete with Boston and Tampa. You guys all in the same choir? Why does a different point of view bother everyone that much. Now if someone said go for Hermida I’d be on board. Players like that should be a target.

    • Steve H

      Ok. You make a point, we reply. We make a counter point and you ignore. Please, try to bat down the RBI argument. RBI’s are a useless stat. Your rally killing argument was completely wrong as Dunn get’s on base 38% of the time. Dunn was average in the field last year.

      A different point of view is great, and can lead to constructive arguments, the problem is you don’t back up anything you write, so the conversation can’t carry on.

    • Mike Pop

      Correct me if Im wrong but I dont think Hermida was exactly top notch in the outfield either.. Dunn>Hermida because its only money and we dont lose anything.. plus it looks like it will cost less than 60 mill which is a giant plus

      • Steve H

        That and Dunn’s a better player. I like Hermida, but considering Bonos anti-strikeout stance, I want to see how he justifies Hermida

        Hermida had 138k’s last year vs 48 bb’s. So he clearly doesn’t work the count like Dunn, which is partly what lead’s to Dunn’s strikeouts. The more pitches you see, the more likely you are to strike out. Hermida’s strikeouts can not be justified.

        • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

          Here’s the likely thought process:

          Hermida’s name was mentioned in the Manny trade derby, meaning that Theo was targeting him as a potential acqusition. If Theo likes a player, it means he’s an awesomely awesome superstud destined for greatness, and we should want him too.

          Meanwhile, pie-chart stathead sabermatricians like Adam Dunn (because he’s a good player), and pie-chart stathead sabermatricians are always wrong (and dorks), because the game isn’t played on paper (although, it is analyzed on paper, but whatever), therefore, since he has good stats and statheads like him, he must suck and we shouldn’t want him, because great players don’t have good stats, and players with good stats are just “compilers” (unless they play for the Red Sox, in which case they’re awesome selfless scrappy team-firsters.)

      • Bonos

        No arb, it’s about the money. The New Yankees – and it’s about time.

  • Bonos

    Defensive stats, gotta love em. Dunn all of sudden became League average. Where was he before? I’m not a big fan of RBI myself, some RBI are more equal than others and stats are still developing. But I question the downer on stolen bases, an extreme example, Gardner on base. I’m not going to suggest LOHB to anyone. My point is that the Yankeees did not compete last year. This is the team that signed the Fat guy with Johnson on board and Dunn strikes me as more of the same or worse, all those SO.

    • Mike Pop

      This post does not make too much sense

    • Steve H

      So would you be against strikeout king Ryan Howard? You like strikeout king Jeremy Hermida, who doesn’t bring the obp and power to the table.

      Take a look at the top 10 batters in strikeouts year after year and you will see a ton of good and great players. Look at A-Rod. He struck out 120 times in his 2007 MVP season. He struck out 139 times during his 2005 MVP season. He struck out 126 times during his 2003 MVP season. These are big time strikeout totals.

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

      some RBI are more equal than others

      this is the textbook definition of nonsense.

      My point is that the Yankeees did not compete last year.

      Yes we did. We were racked by injuries and in the toughest division in baseball, with 4 outstanding teams, and we were in it until the last two weeks.

      • Bonos

        “this is the textbook definition of nonsense” A little over the top snark, no?

        Yep a blowout RBI and a go ahead are the same.

        Last year 30% of the games 3 runs or less. They wouldn’t adjust and continued to swing from the heels, runners left on third with less then two out. When the going gets tough, etc

  • Bonos

    Hermida SO 105 in 2007, 2008 down year, age 25

    2007 23 FLA NL 123 429 54 127 32 1 18 63 3 4 47 105 .296 .369 .501 125 215 1 3 2 4 10

    Comparing Dunn to A Rod – come on

    Howard – not a player, position bat.

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

      Here’s the top 100 list of career leaders in strikeouts:

      http://www.baseball-almanac.co.....trk1.shtml

      Compare the ratio of crappy players to good players.
      Good players strike out. A lot.

  • http://www.yanksblog.com Patrick

    Congrats guys. Have fun.

  • Mike Pop

    dude you need to chill.. Stop posting your shit all over

  • UWS

    OK, kiddo. We saw that you have a blog and that you posted on it regarding Adam Dunn. Three times. No need to spam *this* blog, Seriously.

  • Conor

    sorry just enthusiastic

  • Mike Pop

    Sorry if I came off as a dick its just that we know lol

  • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

    sorry just enthusiastic

    “Jimmy Key, what’s he, like 45?… I could hit him…