A look at Robinson Cano

The most valuable team in all the game
With WBC on tap, Bernie still wants to play

Derek Carty over at THT took a look into what 2009 might hold for the Yanks’ young second baseman. Granted, Carty’s article is focused on fantasy value, but it’s still nice to see someone believing that Cano’s due for a nice rebound next year. It’s a relatively short read, give it look.

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The most valuable team in all the game
With WBC on tap, Bernie still wants to play
  • http://www.blueseatblogs.com Dave

    Robbie Cano 2009 = Petr Prucha 2009

  • The Evil Empire

    I wanna learn how to play fantasy baseball, where do i learn? And where or which site do i sign up on?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Yahoo’s probably the easiest spot to learn. Most leagues are broken down into 10 categories, and you compete against a different opponent every week. Whoever leads the category at the end of the week, wins it. You compile a W-L record over the course of the season.

      The stats are usually BA, R, HR, RBI, SB, W, saves, K, ERA and WHIP. You have a lineup of a C, 1B, 2B, SS, 3 OF and UTIL (any player can player there), and like, 2 SP, 2 RP and 3 P (either SP or RP). You also get a bench.

      That’s a real quick and dirty explanation of a common league format.

      • The Evil Empire

        What do you mean against a different opponent every week? And is it a league? Are there 30 players (teams)? And don’t you have to set up a draft date or something?

        Thanks

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          There’s usually 10-12 teams in each league, and you play against a different one of those teams every week. You establish a draft date, and if someone can’t make it, they can prerank your players or have the computer autodraft for you.

      • Ed

        I’ll just add in that the traditional fantasy baseball setup is what’s called a rotisserie league.

        There are no matchups. You just set your lineup every day and accumulate stats. Everyone is ranked in each category tracked and earns points accordingly.

        In a ten team league, you get ten points for coming in first place in a category, and one point for coming in last. Each stat gets scored separately. Players are ranked based on their combined scores.

    • http://www.blueseatblogs.com Dave

      You are pretty much assembling a team that’s good for stat padding.

      ARod is a good place to start….

      • Mike Pop

        Cause clutchiness does not count!

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    Fantasy baseball for me usually amounts to drafting players and then letting them do whatever (I join free leagues).

    My entire roster is usually on the DL by the end of the year.

    • Barry

      you’re the person every fantasy player hates.

      • Jay CT

        Yeah and the reason the good players don’t play in public leagues. Why even waste your (or everyone elses) time?

  • Rafi

    Speaking of fantasy baseball, what’s the story with the RAB fantasy baseball league?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      I’m still trying to find the ideal place to host the league, but I’m leaning towards Yahoo. I’ll let you know once I get the thing set up, don’t worry.

      • Rafi

        The thing about Yahoo! is that while I hate it, I’m used to it. Personally, I like ESPN the most, even though they are really conducive to streaming.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          I have to dig around for a good spot to host a keeper league. I’ve been slacking off because Opening Day is still more than two months away, but I should get on it.

          I plan on checking out ESPN and CBS before making a final decision.

          • Jay CT

            Yahoo football keeper was new this year, but I liked it alot. The draft ran really smoothly. The thing with Yahoo is you have to pay for live results, whereas Fox and ESPN I know are free. I have never used an ESPN league, but we are switching our keeper football league to ESPN. Also, the cool thing on ESPN is you can do it auction style, which is even better. That way, every player has the same shot at everyone. It all depends on how you budget your money. The players are then kept with raises to their contracts each year.

            I think the keeper ESPN auction draft would be the best way to do it, but thats just my vote. Whichever way you decide, I will win the league.

            • Mike Pop

              Haha

        • Whozat

          I’ve been wanting to get google into this market, but larry and Sergey aren’t on board with us developing a sports-info-related product; they don’t see any real innovation to be done there.

          I wonder if I could throw together a statnerd fantasy site, though. Use wOBA, ld%, ppa, some kind of leverage-weighted measure of pitcher value…

      • The Evil Empire

        Count me in!

      • http://twitter.com/OldRanger Old Ranger

        I also, would like to sign up. I have never played before but, one has to start somewhere…besides, others can pad their stats when they are matched against me.

        • Barry

          it’s not stats, it’s wins. You want to win each “stat column” every week. So if there are 14 columns in a leagues frame then you could win 14 games in a week. I finished 3rd in a competitive league with 171-146-35 this year. You want to have everything on you’re team. Run scorers, base stealers, HR guys, RBI guys, W guys, S guys, ERA guys, K guys. Once you get deeper into it you learn to play and research match ups. Yahoo! is the best in my opinion because of their player-stat pages, they give good splits and such for fantasy.

          • Jay CT

            Yahoo is always one year behind ESPN. ESPN does one thing, Yahoo copies it the next. The ESPN guys even laugh about it and call them the copycat league. Everything down to the personalities hired on Yahoo are cheap knock offs.

            Also, the league isn’t going to have many spots open, because most of the football league wanted to stay on board, but I know Joe and TJSC both said they didn’t want to play anymore.

            • Jay CT

              Also, if there are a bunch of new people to fantasy sports, its sometimes best for them all to form a league on their own to first see if they like it. Especially in baseball, there is a LOT of work, as it’s an everyday commitment. Also, when their are new people in the league, the experienced ones can usually find them and take advantage of them pretty quickly. Its not just knowing the players and what they will do, its knowing how to beat your opponents in the league by building the team in the right categories, and being able to make the right trades. Just a thought…

      • Ryan S.

        Yeah I’d love to have a spot on the RAB league if there’s room. Could you let us know how to sign up?

  • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

    I finally won a fantasy league last year. It was a ten team league and I won from the fifth seed, beating the four, one, and two seeds on the way to victory.

    The reason I won is because our draft was around the time when everyone thought Pujols was gonna need elbow surgery so no one grabbed him in the first round. My first two picks were Miggy Cabrera and King Albert.

    • Mike Pop

      That was enough to carry the whole team, heh.

  • Jake H

    Hopefully Robbie bounces back in a big way.

  • Brian Cashman is watching

    For those who have not seen it, Fangraphs estimated that Youkilis’s contract was about average for what a player with his qualifications would normally make.

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs.....-inks-deal

    Just want to try to put to bed some of the rumors that the Red Sox get good deals on their players.

  • http://twitter.com/OldRanger Old Ranger

    You people are saying that one should pick guys like A-Rod, King Albert, Manny, Johnny D, Posada, Padroia, Markakus and CC, AJ, Joba etc.,…HRs, Avg, RBIs, OBP. Stuff like that?
    I would have to work at it every day? If I would have to do that, I can’t join, I’ll be out of town a lot of the time.

    • Jay CT

      Yeah thats what I was saying. Everyday you have to go onto your team, and you need to make sure the players that are in your active lineup are actually playing games and do not have an off day. Also, you need to see if anyone is hurt, and needs to go on the DL, or come off the DL. You need to list the pitchers that are starting in the starting pitcher slots. People make trade offers, you need to sift through them. You also should look at your opponent, to see his strengths and weaknesses, and adjust your team accordingly by searching the waiver wire for a good pickup. After a few weeks, the novelty begins to wear off and people stop updating. Just ask Joseph P. in our football league this year…

      Some leagues, you can set your roster once a week. Every league I have ever played in that was highly competitve though was a daily roster change. You lose something when its done once a week- people do not pay as much attention. Plus, a winning team is not usually the one who picks ARod, but the one who grabs a Carlos Quintin or a Ryan Ludwick off the waiver wire to pair with your Pujols/ARod, etc…

  • gxpanos

    I have a question about BABIP. There was a commenter on this article and he said that the projection for Cano was high because Robbie had high BABIP’s his first three years.

    So, is there one scale of BABIP’s for all players? Like, is .350 lucky for everyone and .270 unlucky for everyone, or does each player have a range of BABIP’s (linked to his ld% or something)? So, like, a .350 BABIP for Eckstein is RIDICULOUSLY lucky while a .350 for Pujols is kind of lucky or not lucky ay all? Or do you just take a person’s most common BABIP and use that as a kind of baseline (this seems retarded, considering the fluctuations).

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      For the most part the BABIP scale is the same for everyone.

      The problem with BABIP is that it’s dependent on how many balls a player puts into play, so high strikeout guys like Adam Dunn and Ryan Howard will have flukier BABIP’s just because they have a smaller sample of balls put into play.

      • gxpanos

        Thanks!

      • The Fallen Phoenix

        BABIP for hitters is more stable for BABIP for pitchers, though, since there have been some sabermetric studies that show a pretty stable correlation between a hitter’s LD rate and his BABIP from year to year.

        So players with better LD rates generally have a higher BABIP, since those balls are better hit and tend to fall into play more often.

        Furthermore, LD rate for hitters seems a more a repeatable skill than, say, a lower (or higher) BABIP for pitchers (outside of fluctuations around GB/FB rates).

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