Jan
28

Musings on Adam Dunn

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As baseball rapidly approaches the two-week mark until Spring Training, a few potential impact players remain unsigned. One of them is a 29-year-old with a career OBP/SLG of .381/.518 who has hit 40 or more home runs five seasons running.

Among some Yankee fans, signing Adam Dunn would cap off what has been an excellent off-season. Today, Buster Olney chimed in:

Dunn might draw interest from the Yankees, a team for which he is perfectly suited, if they could shed the contracts of two of Xavier Nady, Hideki Matsui and Nick Swisher. Abreu, Dunn and Varitek can go someplace and bust it for one year, and if they have strong seasons, they can hope the economic troubles will have less bearing on the market next offseason than they have this winter.

If that argument — that Dunn should wait a year — sounds familiar, that’s because iYankees pontificated on it last week. With the Yankee outfield picture unsettled beyond 2009, Dunn could land himself a deal from the Bombers in about ten months’ time.

Of course, Dunn’s defense raises some eyebrows, but his bat is not in doubt. The Yanks could probably move one of Nady or Swisher if they’re willing to take a less-than-ideal return. They probably can’t move the less-than-healthy Hideki Matsui, and they probably don’t want to move both Swisher and Nady. An outfield of Damon-Melky/Gardner-Dunn doesn’t inspire much confidence.

But Adam Dunn is a tempting target for the Yanks, and until he signs, he’ll be on the periphery of Yankee interest. If the price is right, they just might pounce.

Categories : Hot Stove League

125 Comments»

  1. Benny Blanco from the Bronx says:

    .225 career risp. .214 career risp with 2 outs…. not good.

    • Steve H says:

      .225/.416/.474 with risp.

      .214/.440/.443 with risp, 2 outs.

      Remember, the goal of a batter is to not make outs. In these two situations, Dunn makes outs at and extremely low rate. This is a good thing.

      • Mike says:

        Dunn would be a great fit at DH in 09. He is not a RF and putting him in LF only means that Damon would most likely have to man RF….not a good idea.

        With ST only two weeks out, has anhyone brought up the idea of briningin ManRam for a similar one year deal…his market seems just about popped too. Who knows sign both and have one wicked bench if you cant move Nady/Swish/Matsui. Manny for 10mil and Dunn for 5mil. The extra 15 helps protects from injury and gives you one wicked benchplus a few trades can replenish the farm system.

    • History Teacher says:

      I’ve heard that Dunn doesn’t even enjoy playing the game of baseball. Does anyone know if there is any truth to that?

      Also… explain to me how we could dump Nady AND Matsui? Nady I can see going (although I like the way he plays the game), but who would take Matsui with a no-trade clause?

      FORGET DUNN, WE NEED NATE MCCLOUTH FOR CF! THAT KID IS AMAZING!

      • JCP says:

        sounds like a history teacher

        - a science teacher

      • Nick says:

        “FORGET DUNN, WE NEED NATE MCCLOUTH FOR CF! THAT KID IS AMAZING!”

        No we don’t and no he isn’t. McClouth had 1/2 a good season before falling off. His defense is also extremely overrated. We’d have to trade way too much to get a mediocre player. PASS.

    • Mick says:

      Dunn is the last thing the Yankees need. He can’t field, run or make contact with a baseball. That is a nightmare on a team with older players that will need to DH. He is not clutch. This is a real baseball team and not fantasy which you obdviously play to have written this blog. These types of players belong in beer league soft ball games.

  2. keith says:

    “An outfield of Damon-Melky/Gardner-Dunn doesn’t inspire much confidence.”

    Dunn may be below average in the OF, but Damon projects to be avg to above avg in left. So do Melky/Gardner. I’d say the ugliest thing about that OF is the CF bat.

  3. Dan W says:

    225/.416/.474 with risp.

    .214/.440/.443 with risp, 2 outs.

    Remember, the goal of a batter is to not make outs. In these two situations, Dunn makes outs at and extremely low rate. This is a good thing.

    I disagree….the goal with RISP is to get the runner in.

    Also look up Adam Dunn’s Sac Fly totals…..amazing

    • Steve H says:

      So if Adam Dunn gets on base, doesn’t that give the team an opportunity to score more runs? What about the guy hitting behind him? If he gets on base, it’s also better for the team. The more people that get on base, the more runs you’re going to score.

  4. Pat Kelly says:

    If the Yankees were somehow able to get rid of 1 of Swisher or nady and then Matsui to boot. You would see Manny in the Bronx faster than you can say Murderers Row Part 2

    • Jay CT says:

      Nah, I disagree. I think the whole Manny idea is the fans only saying it. Years, attitude, money, all do not fit into what the Yankees are thinking.

  5. The Ghost of Darrell Rasner says:

    I thought the Three True Outcomes guys typically declined rapidly as they aged. I could take a 1 year deal, but I don’t know about long term.

  6. Mike Pop says:

    Best thing would probably be if he signs a 1 year deal and then we make a run at him in 2010. Of course we will get him if we really want him.

  7. Phil in LA says:

    Dunn would be a monster hitting 5th in the Yankee line-up. I’ve been on this bandwagon for a few years.

  8. No Maas put it perfectly: Dump Matsui for chump change (i.e. pick up his salary) and sign Dunn cheap. Better production, better health. Done deal.

    • Mike Pop says:

      Gauranteed responses to this:

      Why wouldn’t the team trading for Matsui just sign Dunn.

      Noone wants Matsui!!!

      • The Ghost of Darrell Rasner says:

        Because to some other team, in this situation, Matsui would be cheaper since the Yanks would be picking up salary.

        • Jay CT says:

          I still honestly think that there may be some publicity derived team that would take Matsui. If Matsui agreed, and the Yankees ate some contract, I could see a small-mid market team taking him on for a year because of the foreign seas press, and also because he is a gamble that has upside, not like Griffey who is Dunn (see what I did there?)

      • Bruno says:

        Plus Dunn’s a FA, if he doesn’t want to sign there he won’t. Same goes for Matsui of corse (NTC).

      • I agree that a team in a vacuum would just sign Dunn, but I would think that Matsui would be a profitable addition to any team on the west coast that has a large Japanese-American population. (Seattle – San Fran – Oakland – LA)

        After all, he is Godzilla.

    • Ams223 says:

      Don’t you mean dunn deal

  9. Short Porch says:

    Trade Nady for a decent back up catcher. Sign Dunn. He and Swisher, with Damon as well, and a (hopefully healthy) Posada will just wear out pitchers. P/PA for the team would be outstanding.

    • Steve H says:

      Nady for a decent backup catcher? Really? I’m not the biggest Nady fan in the world, but come on, if they move him he will bring way more than a backup catcher.

    • Ben K. says:

      They traded Jose Tabata and a potential top-10 prospect pitcher to the Pirates for Nady. They’re not going to give him up for *just* a “decent back up catcher.”

      • Ben, who/what they traded for Nady then should have no bearing for who/what they trade Nady for now.

        And the trade was not Nady for Tabata straight up, that’s disingenuous.

        • Jay CT says:

          I agree, but Nady was still a big part of that deal. And it does matter what they gave up for him. They obviously thought quite highly of him, and he really did nothing to sway that opinion. So why dump him for a bag of balls now, unless you have to for financial reasons, in which they still wouldn’t sign Dunn cause of the same financial reasons.

          • Jay CT says:

            To clarify, normally I agree it doesn’t matter who you gave up. I just think in this case, it does. Kind of like how I feel no team is going to give up too much more then what Cashman did to get Swisher, since he has not improved his stats since last season in the time the Yankees have had him.

            • Dealing Swisher within the same offseason that he was acquired is a bad comp for dealing for Nady midseason vs. dealing Nady away 2 weeks before spring training of the subsequent season.

              Not enough time has past nor enough scene-altering events have transpired to change the variables enough. And you’re dealing with two different realtimes: In-season realtime vs. offseason realtime.

          • Because:

            That deal then was made for different reasons, and by a different Yankees team with different priorities, than the deals we’d be making now for the team we’re constructing now.

            They thought quite highly of him AND MARTE then because they didn’t have Nick Swisher; Hideki and Posada were both injured; there were 3 or 4 holes in the lineup; they were looking for lefties in the bullpen; Melky was hitting .247/.302/.345, Brett Gardner was a washout at the time, they were chasing the Sox and Rays, etc. etc. etc.

            That deal was done to benefit the Yankees as of July 29, 2008. Any deal done now is done in reference to the Yankees of 2009 and beyond. The circumstances have changed, so the priorities have changed, so the valuation of players has changed.

            I’ll say again: What we gave up for Nady then should have no bearing on what we will accept for Nady in a trade now.

            • Mike Pop says:

              100% agree. But the Yankees should just not deal him to deal him, they should only deal him if it benefits the team.

              • I never said they should or would.

                Just want to smash to bits the idea that Jose Tabata matters at all to the 2009 fate of Xavier Nady the Sixth.

                Nady is a valuable asset that should not be given away willy-nilly. But Jose Tabata does not enter into the equation. That’s in the past, and Mark McGwire and I aren’t here to talk about the past.

                • Jay CT says:

                  Again, I still think that line of thinking gets you to where the Mets were when they dealt Kazmir for Zambrano. They wanted to catch the Braves. Other starters weren’t working, etc… Too many of these deals gets you into a massive hole. I am not saying this is the same thing as the Mets, but a backup catcher (which is where this all started) is just not the right value for Nady. It is a stupid move, and I do think you need to get back what you put into a deal, otherwise you are working from the red, and you wind up out of the picture, whether it be financially, in the game, in the minor league system, etc…

                • You’re not arguing with me here. I never said Nady should be traded for a backup catcher. I’m against trading Nady in general, I have yet to see a deal I’d do.

                  I’m just saying that whomever Tabata is and whatever he becomes and however much we valued him back in early 2008 has no bearing on how we value Nady now. They’re two different things. Saying that what we gave up for Nady shouldn’t factor into how we price and value Nady is not in any way equitable to dumb-ass Jim Duquette giving away valuable prospects for short term fixes.

                  Not the same concepts.

            • Jay CT says:

              Well we will just have to agree to disagree. All of your logic is very sound, however, I think things need to be weighed out in regards to a Nady trade. If you went out and bought a house for 600,000, and then another house came along that you liked better for the same 600,000, you wouldn’t just sell your first house for 150,000 saying “Last year, I really needed that house to put a roof over my head. Now, this other house is a better deal…” Giving up Nady for a backup catcher is doing just that. If you could deal Nady for another solid prospect, then fine. But Cashman is not in this to just take a loss, which is exactly what Nady would be in this market right now. Holding onto him would give 2 draft picks next year. nady can be very useful this year. Perhaps I am not saying it right, but I think each of these guys from a buisness point of view is an investment, and yes Marte came along and is great, but Nady was a huge key to that deal. It is a bad investment to sell that low on him.

      • Short Porch says:

        Remember, Marte came in the deal as well. Hey if you can get more, by all means. Throw in an outfield prospect.

        I just think Nady is way overrated. He had a career year, but his OPS with the Yanks was below 800 and his career OPS is 335.

        Give me a backup catcher who can hit like that so that if and when Jorge can’t manage, there’s a decent option. We may need a seat warmer to last to Montero. That is not cheap.

        Who has extra catchers? SF? Tex? Thought SF wanted Nady.

  10. Zach Sanders says:

    And pounce they should

  11. Short Porch says:

    And Tiexiera and A-Rod of course. Matsui can battle you too.

    Only Cano/Melky would evne be an issue, with Cano at 3.3 and Melky at 3.65, which is not bad at all. Gardner would do well in this category as well.

    We want the starter at 100 pitches by the 5th.

  12. Matt says:

    Here’s to hoping he gets a one year deal somewhere, Matsui’s gone, bring Damon back for a year or two.

    Damon/Gardner/Swisher in the OF, AJax as the 4th OF to get some experience but not a “sink or swim” which could kill him, Dunn as the DH.

    Damon
    Jeter
    Rodriguez
    Tex
    Dunn
    Posada
    Swisher
    Cano
    Gardner

    BOOM

  13. GG says:

    Anyone think that since Andy is back in the fold Cashman continues his MVP season and rekindles the Mike Cameron talks for a reliable CF vet in Melky’s roster spot?

  14. Matt says:

    But, yeah, if they can somehow move Matsui, Dunn’d better be the DH come April.

    • Assuming Dunn even wants to be DH.

      (I’m just saying.)

      • Matt says:

        That’s true. But I think the Yankees would be able to give Dunn what he deserves, not what the market has dictated so far and I think that would be a big factor…that and the chance to stick it to JP Riccardi 19 times a year.

        Even if Matsui was moved and Dunn didn’t sign, I don’t think it would be awful for the Yankees. There could be a few things they could do (this is all going to sound nuts):

        1. This would allow Posada a chance to DH when he needs a day off behind the plate. Who would the regular DH be? Not sure, probably Nady. He’s a decent hitter but his glove isn’t anything special and I’d like him at the DH spot.

        2. Abreu could be brought back to DH? This, though, leaves Nady out as the fourth OF. I’m not totally uncomfortable with that, though. Also, doing a quick check, Bobby has a pretty pronounced platoon split–.951 vs RHP, .776 vs LHP–so maybe Nady (.770 vs. RHP, .854 vs. LHP) and Abreu could be used as a platoon DH.

  15. Macphisto says:

    I know Dunn hits 40+ HR’s consistently. But, he is another shift player that as soon as he loses his pop will be a low BA hitter killing rallies. Just like Giambi last year and likely what we will see from Ortiz this year. He will fall in love with the short porch and pull everything he can. I have seen enough of that for a while. I am looking forward to Damon/Gardner/Nady covering the OF this year.

    • A.D. says:

      He already pulls everything, he’s not advertised as a potential batting champion, like Big G was when we signed him

    • Matt says:

      “low BA hitter killing rallies.”

      But he can extend rallies by a) taking a ton of pitches and b) walking a lot. Low BA =/= “killing rallies.”

      “Just like Giambi last year”

      Except Giambi had a .376 OBP and .502 SLG. Giambi was very good for the Yankees last year.

      “I am looking forward to Damon/Gardner/Nady Swisher covering the OF this year.”

      Fixed.

      • Macphisto says:

        Yeah, but look at Giambi’s numbers in key situations. 2 outs risp: .216 Close and Late: .155 Runners on 1/2:.143 Hitting in the 5 spot: .212 He was not very good last year. He hurt the team, especially when he was batting fifth. And a lot of it had to do with the shift. He never broke it and it hurt.

    • Kevin G. says:

      But there not going to sign him to a long-term deal and he is only 29 so he is entering his prime. He probably won’t lose his power on the Yankees.

      • Matt says:

        That, too.

        Am I the only one who thinks Giambi was very under-appreciated in his time in the Bronx?

        • steve (different one) says:

          yes and no.

          he gave a pretty decent return on his crazy contract all things considered, and was great for a few of those seasons, but at the same time he completely gets a pass for 2004.

          A-Rod takes all the blame, but replace Olerud and Clark with Giambi, and the Yankees probably win the WS.

          but since the guy destroyed his health by injecting himself with banned substances, he collected $20M to not play yet gets a complete pass from the fans.

          all because why, he’s more “fun”? better personality?

          it’s kindof horseshit.

        • Macphisto says:

          He definitely contributed over the years and was solid in the playoffs early on. But, I think last year was not a good year, tho, for reasons mentioned above.

          • Mike Pop says:

            Last year was actually a pretty good year for him in my opinion. 07, now that sucked. I’m just glad we have a REAL 1B now after all these years. No more Andy Philips’, Craig Wilson’s, and Josh Phelps’.

  16. A.D. says:

    The issue is Dunn is most beneficial, and its more worth the Yankees time and energy to move multiple outfielders/eat Matsui’s contract if they can get Dunn for several year at todays value.

    Obviously he’s a better pure hitter than the 3, but when you toss in defense, and the money, it probably isn’t worth it to the front office.

    • But, like Abreu, his defensive liability is so great that he may not truly add value over a guy like Swisher or Nady… the only upgrade Dunn serves, IMO, is over Matsui as DH. So if we’re acquiring Dunn, it should be with the intention of DH’ing him for the duration of the contract and never putting him in the field.

      And if it’s strictly Dunn the DH and not Dunn the RF, now you’re starting to worry about where to play Jorge Posada in 2010 and 2011 (assuming we give Dunn a 3 year deal) if he can’t catch.

      • Bonos says:

        Excellent post, that’s what Tampa did with Burrell. However they did not have a Matsui who’s a power in his own right. They scoped Matsui’s knees, didn’t amputate them.

      • Ryan S. says:

        but if you could get Dunn for a reasonable price (let’s say in the 3 year/$30-36MM range), isn’t he worth the trouble? If Posada can’t catch in the next year or two then oh well, I hope he enjoys rehab and sitting on the bench. I don’t thinks concerns about the future of Jorge is worth blocking a play for Dunn – his bat for the next 5 or 6 years (let alone 3) will be more valuable than Posada’s will be for the remainder of his career.

        Sure, if we were a team like the Atlanta Braves or Kansas City Royals, and we needed to be extremely prudent with our money, Dunn may not make sense. But we’re the Yankees. We can eat contracts if it means making sure we field the best possible team at all times.

        • I don’t thinks concerns about the future of Jorge is worth blocking a play for Dunn – his bat for the next 5 or 6 years (let alone 3) will be more valuable than Posada’s will be for the remainder of his career.

          I’m not so sure about that. Adam Dunn has a career .383 wOBA. Jorge Posada has a career .370 wOBA. Again, we’re talking about marginal utility here. Yes, Dunn is an upgrade over Matsui the DH in 2009 and Posada the DH in 2010 and 2011, but is he enough of an upgrade to justify benching/cutting 13M Hideki Matsui in 2009 and 13.1M Jorge Posada in 2010 and 2011, in addition to the 5-10M AAV it will take to add him? Not so sure.

          Are you willing to bench 39.2M of Matsui/Posada for the upgrade in wOBA that Dunn provides over them? That’s a tall order. Don’t give me the “We’re the Yankees, we have no budget” line because we both know that isn’t true.

          Since he’s utterly atrocious in the field, you’re looking at a serious positional logjam problem here. Dunn is good, but he’s not Manny good where you can just say “Fuck it, let’s get him and figure out the details later”.

          • Ryan S. says:

            I guess it depends on how well you project an aging Jorge Posada and his surgically repaired arm to fare, or Matsui and his two surgically repaired knees are going to do. Keep in mind that Adam Dunn is in the prime of his career, and Posada is well past his, so its tough to expect them to put up career average numbers for the next 3 years.

            I agree, its not worth $39.2M for an increase of .013 in wOBA, that’s just retarded. I just think, even with both of their terrific 2007 campaigns not that far behind them, I have concerns about each – especially Posada. I do think Dunn is only going to be slightly better than Matsui, or Posada for that matter, in 2009. But I put a lot of value in the dependability and consistency of Adam Dunn – something that Jorge Posada isn’t going to give us for the remainder of his contract. Its a bit of a financial gamble, but at least your hedging your losses for either extreme regarding Posada (that being, either he’s worthy of catching for the next few years, or Posada loses his value at the plate from his injured shoulder).

      • A.D. says:

        If you look at value or runs over on the seasons we expect from Swish, hope from Nady, and a healthy Matsui has done, then its not a huge difference.

        • Ryan S. says:

          Isn’t Dunn easily the surest thing out of the 4 of them though? I think consistency and durability counts for quite a bit.

          • Steve H says:

            Just read an article/blog on boston.com from a guy who wants the Sox to get Dunn, he makes some great points.

            http://www.boston.com/sports/t.....owell.html

            His career adjusted OPS of 130 is just four points lower than Teixeira’s. He’s hit at least 40 home runs in five straight seasons, and exactly 40 in the past four — how’s that for consistency? He’s the major league leader in home runs and walks over the past five years, and then there’s this: His career home run rate of one every 13.96 at-bats is fifth all time, trailing guys named McGwire, Ruth, Bonds, and Thome.

            This list of the five players most similar to Dunn at age 28 may also raise some eyebrows, if only because he isn’t often perceived as being in their stellar (if in certain cases star-crossed) company:

            1. Darryl Strawberry (brilliant in his youth)
            2. Jose Canseco (ditto)
            3. Harmon Killebrew (H of F)
            4. Rocky Colavito (better than Harvey Kuenn)
            5. Reggie Jackson (H of F)

  17. Rich says:

    This situation points to the problem with signing marginal aging players to contract that are too long. I hope the Yankees learn in the future that it’s better to let players like Matsui and Posada walk than to give them a extra year on their contract.

  18. jim says:

    Hal was on Michael Kay show yesterday. The two things that stood out to me were that he mentioned the budget and that they were able to sign Andy because they got creative. He also mentioned that signing Teixeira improves their defense.

    It does seem that Hal is super serious about the budget. It seems like they focus on the 5.5 figure for Andy as creative. I think this means they don’t need to move Nady or Swisher now. It also makes me think that had Andy taken the 10 million in the Fall , maybe the Yankees don’t get Teixiera.

    If this were to be true then Andy signing for 5.5 Million in the fashion he did enables the team to have Teixiera and Nady as well

    Also , the fact that the first thing Hal said about defense makes me think the Yankees are really focusing on that.

    I am curious as to what the total plus/minus fielding numbers are for the whole team as is.

    As it stands now, the Yankees have better pitching and fielding and are younger and have an opening day payroll less than last year.

  19. KW says:

    I dunno. He’s kind of like Bobby Abreu, good/great bat, horrific defense. Fangraphs has him at being worth 1.8 wins, which is about $8mm. That’s not far away from Bobby, who’s worth about $5mm. I mean, pick one or the other, or in my case, neither, but please don’t think that Dunn is a rockstar and Bobby is yesterday’s tater salad.

    http://www.fangraphs.com/stats.....osition=OF

    • but please don’t think that Dunn is a rockstar and Bobby is yesterday’s tater salad.

      Funny, that’s exactly what I plan on doing. Seriously. I have a little faith that Dunn can outproduce Posada and Matsui. I have zero faith that Bobby will outproduce Posada and Matsui. Zero.

      • KW says:

        Outproduce from what perspective? Offense? Home Runs? Walks? OPS? Defense? Speed? There’s a lot more to a player than quoting how many times Dunn’s hit 40 hrs and OPS’d over 900. Heck, Bobby was a perennial .300/.400/.500 player until two years ago. It’s inaccurate to just look at selective totals and demonstrate a player’s worth or ability. Fangraphs has done that and both players come out to be nearly a wash.

  20. Peter Lacock says:

    I think Adam Dunn is a shitty player. I wouldn’t even call him a player, he’s only a hitter and not a very good one. Take away his HR’s and he has nothing. His OBP is a product of the power. He does nothing else well and he’s a base clogger. I don’t want anyone on my team that can’t use a glove. I’m certain (and thankful) Brian Cashman will not even consider signing him unless he wants him on his fantasy team. It’s funny how so many get googly over a guys HR’s and ignore his other skills (or lack thereof) especially defense which, in case you want to become enlightened, is just as important. I guess, you know, chicks love the longball.

  21. kane says:

    Why the hell do people think Matsui is a horrendous player? Due to his health or defense? I can understand his defense but he’ll platoon with Damon, he won’t play LF every day. And plus the last injury he had was only the second injury of his career, he might get injured again but he’s still pretty good. He’s .295/.371/.478 lifetime that’s not terrible at all. .247/.381/.518 is Adam Dunn lifetime. Dunn is still pretty good, his OBP and slugging are better but his batting average is way lower. I don’t really mind but he got 40 homers last year. He might be better than matsui and some people make good points on why we should get rid of him but the general Yankee fan wants Manny on our team despite his attitude and treat Matsui like this “OMFG MATSUI SUCKS!!!! WTF GET HIM OUT OF TEH YANKEES! WE SHOULD GET MANNY AND DUNN AT THE SAME TIEM EVEN THO WE DON’T HAVE SPACE ON OUR 40 MAN!! IF WE GOT MANNY WE’LL HAVE A KILLER OFFENCE THAT WILL WIN EVERYTIME! MANNY MIGHT JUST DECIDE NOT TO PLAY BUT WHO CARES? MATSUI SUCKS GTFO GTFO GTFO” Spelling errors intentional.

    • Peter Lacock says:

      This Yankee fan doesn’t want Manny. Just another guy with no position. He’s much better than Dunn though. At least Manny will hit over .250.

    • Ryan S. says:

      I would hope I can count on my fingers how many times Matsui plays a corner outfield spot in 2009 – I have him pegged as the everyday DH in my mind and I bet he does a respectable job there this year. Still, I would be totally for getting Ramirez if Papa Hal and Momma Levine said we could. Manny is on a different tier than Matsui – I can understand arguments against Dunn when we have Matsui, but for Ramirez…

    • but the general Yankee fan wants Manny on our team despite his attitude and treat Matsui like this “OMFG MATSUI SUCKS!!!! WTF GET HIM OUT OF TEH YANKEES! WE SHOULD GET MANNY AND DUNN AT THE SAME TIEM EVEN THO WE DON’T HAVE SPACE ON OUR 40 MAN!! IF WE GOT MANNY WE’LL HAVE A KILLER OFFENCE THAT WILL WIN EVERYTIME! MANNY MIGHT JUST DECIDE NOT TO PLAY BUT WHO CARES? MATSUI SUCKS GTFO GTFO GTFO” Spelling errors intentional.

      That is not remotely what many of the people on this board have said regarding advocating for Manny or Dunn.

      Don’t equate us with LoHudders. Plenty of us have made reasoned, well-explained cases of why we may want to consider dumping Matsui for Dunn or Manny, both of whom represent clear upgrades without resorting to histrionics.

      • kane says:

        Which is why I said the general Yankee fan…I never ocne said this is based upon RiverAveBlues comments. I see this everywhere, people wanting to get rid of him giving little or no explanation…

        Yeah a lot of people are well reasoned but that’s not the majority of fans thaty I come into contact to.

  22. The Evil Empire says:

    In order to open room for Dunn we might have to shed Nady not Matsui. We can replace Nady with Dunn

  23. matt says:

    i think this article would sound exactly the same if you replaced dunn with sheets in it.

  24. jo says:

    damon
    jeter
    a-rod
    manny
    tex
    dunn
    matsui
    posada
    cano

    haha…

  25. [...] 28, 2009 by zellyanks91      Is Adam Dunn a possible candidate to land on the Yankees within the next few weeks? It’s possible, but unlikely. I like Dunn a lot. The guy is pretty much a lock for 40HR and [...]

  26. tank57 says:

    why would they have to get rid of 2 guys…nady is going to make 6.35 mil or so…trade him for some youth position players and sign dunn for nady’s money or a little more like 8 mil…

  27. JohnLane says:

    Hell to the no.

  28. sp23 says:

    trade nady n matsui for nate mcclouth n sign dunn

  29. [...] River Ave. Blues says Adam Dunn is a "tempting target" for the Yankees and should remain on their radar until he signs. [...]

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