Feb
14

Valentine’s Day Open Thread

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Sorry for the tardiness. Enjoy.

Categories : Open Thread
  • Jake H

    wow long post.

  • http://liberalmusings.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

    I <3 RAB. Will you be my Valentine?

  • Jake

    Happy Single’s Awareness Day.

  • http://liberalmusings.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

    On a more serious note: http://tinyurl.com/agkmfp

    Wow

    • Raf

      ha thats nuts.

    • Jake H

      I saw that. How the history of the organization would have been.

    • Steve H

      Like an idiot, I decided to go to the comments section. I only got to the 4th one before I stopped.

      Statsney February 14th, 2009 at 4:05 pm

      Thats a good story. But let me ask you who is prodding Brian Cashman for not having Joba Chamberlain in the bullpen? Joba is much more important as a set-up guy than a 5th starter. YOU GOT TO SHORTEN THE GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Oh those Lohudians.

  • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

    Dunk Contest tonight!!!

    • http://liberalmusings.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

      What time?

      • John

        im hoping my boy JR Smith wins. Its starting soon

        • Drew

          my boy played him oin west orange b4 he went pro.

      • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

        Well it starts at 830 but there is also the 3 point competition and such before the dunk contest.

  • Paulie
    • http://liberalmusings.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

      Because he sucks. K:BB :: 1:1, I think

      • http://liberalmusings.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

        Oh wait, that was 07. Anyway, he has shoddy control, has terrible K rates, missed 08, and is 29.

        • Jay CT

          Didn’t he throw like 8 walks in 1 inning or some crazy spring training line last year?

          • Paulie

            That explains it.

  • Jake H

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....in-sa.html

    young pitcher locked up for awhile.

  • Jay CT

    TheLastClown, I just wanted to get back to you because I’ve been busy and didn’t get to carry on a conversation about the Leyritz incident. Figured I could throw this out in the open forum instead.

    I hear what you are saying that my comments were harsh, but I stand by them. The fact is, she WAS hit. Maybe she wouldn’t have been hit had she not been drunk. Maybe Leyritz wouldn’t have hit her if he hadn’t been. When you are in my line of work, and any DUI/DWI incidents that have a child in the car has a follow up from DCF (Department of Children and Families), so it does kind of fall into my line of work. I am very anti-drunk driving for numerous reasons. I hate sounding like the nerd in the group or what have you, but seeing what I see on a daily basis alters you. In this situation, for every “what if” you can give, I could give another. I would be just as adament if she hit him. Its WRONG. Being drunk and driving a 1 ton piece of equipment is a selfish act. I know most do it at least once in their life, and I am not saying that people shouldn’t be forgiven; however, I have a problem with that for two reasons. 1- The victim does not have the chance to now forgive him, as he took that ability from her. 2- He showed how sorry he was for this poor judgement call by violating his probation.

    I know that sometimes I let what I do run into my opinion, and I apologize. Seeing the damage that is caused from stupid accidents like this that are so easily avoided just really gets to me.

    • Bryan V

      Leyritz should be punished for what he did, intentional or not. But he deserves a second chance. Just like my brother who get arrested and fined after his first (and hopefully only) DUI last summer.

      • Jay CT

        I agree your brother deserves a second chance. If there isn’t a death, I believe a person should get a fine. Second time should get a short jail time. But if your brother killed someone, why would you not put him in jail? If he kills someone, it was his choice to drink. His choice to drive. It should be no choice; he should be put away.

        • http://goldenrule.mlblogs.com/ Bryan V

          In cases in which somebody loses their life, or suffers any kind of major injury, yes…jail time should be handed down.

          This relates to what La Russa has said in regards to a zero-tolerance policy for PEDs in baseball. And it’s funny, because the first comment on that story on ESPN.com talked about La Russa’s DUI/DWI (not sure which it actually was).

          I guess I kind of got confused between the two conversations…sorry.

          • Jay CT

            I think we are on the same page. I am not saying people need to be angels. I just know that it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to ask a friend to drive you home.

            • http://goldenrule.mlblogs.com/ Bryan V

              You’re right….not at all.

    • http://lastclownrab@gmail.com TheLastClown

      Hey brother, no worries. We don’t really have a difference of opinion. I regard all drunk driving injuries/deaths as irresponsible, senseless, and highly avoidable.

      You said yourself: “I would be just as adamant if she hit him”

      So, then, if she hit him, you would have said “Good. Fuck her. She deserves to go to jail. Disgusting.”

      All I was trying to say is that the coin flips both ways, but you obviously understand that.

      It saddens me to see incidents like this, I find them pathetic. I’m just not one to jump in the judgment chair and condemn people. Not saying you are, simply saying I’m not.

      • Jay CT

        I hear what you are saying. I try really hard to not judge until they are guilty, but I do admit I have a hard time not falling into the judgement portion before a person is guilty because once you start the car, if you were drinking, you are rolling the dice in my eyes. I have also had to testify quite a few times in child abuse hearings in regards to unfit parents and taking their rights away. We just got through removing a baby who was just born Thursday from her cocaine addicted mother. She lost her rights after her third child; she continues to have them, we continue to take them, five so far.

  • John

    This picture is the microcosm of failure

    http://graphics8.nytimes.com/i.....ng.600.jpg

    • http://goldenrule.mlblogs.com/ Bryan V

      Anytime Hank or George come into the office and say “I have an idea”, they should be shown that picture.

    • E-ROC

      Uh, Randy Johnson was pretty good.

      • http://goldenrule.mlblogs.com/ Bryan V

        His K rate dropped pretty far in New York, while his BAA went up quite a bit over his career average.

        Not saying he was bad. But he was not the pitcher the Yankees thought they were getting.

      • John

        not in pinstripes he wasnt…at least not as good as expected.

    • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

      I <3 Mike Mussina…

      F*** the other 3.

      • Mac

        Isn’t that Kevin Brown, not Moose?

        • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

          Oh shit! I can’t tell. It looks like both of them but Moose always wears those shades.

      • http://goldenrule.mlblogs.com/ Bryan V

        Moose isn’t in that photo. It’s Jaret Wright, Kevin Brown, Carl Pavano, and Randy Johnson.

        • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

          You got to admit though, Kevin Brown does look like Moose in that picture.

          • http://goldenrule.mlblogs.com/ Bryan V

            Yeah. I had to go back and find the NY Times story to make sure of the guys in that photo.

    • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

      Moose was a good Yankee, and with all the steroid guys getting outed it makes his record all the more HOF worthy. The BWAA is going to look favorably on the clean guys. When he retired, I thought he’d get in, but thought it might take 10-12 years. Now, I think he gets in pretty quickly.

  • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

    Should the yanks be worried about Ken Griffey Jr being targeted by the Braves? Does that mean they have moved on from Nady/Swisher?

    • http://goldenrule.mlblogs.com/ Bryan V

      Looks that way.

      They don’t need a ton more run production, as they were only like 46 runs behind the Mets and Phillies last season. And since neither of those teams improved their offenses, the Braves didn’t need to go out and get a Dunn or Abreu. If healthy, Griffey will be enough of an upgrade. Especially being a bit cheaper than either of those other two.

      • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

        Yeah, well it seems they weren’t willing to give up much for either of them. Talks really never went anywhere.

        I don’t think Griffey’s the answer to anything though, he’s shot. He’s 39, spent most of the past decade on the DL and while he’s been healthy for the past 2 seasons he hasn’t done much. 18 HR’s .249/.353/.424 (777 OPS) last year. Plus his range is way down in the OF at this point.

    • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

      Either way, its fine by me. Trading either of those guys would have had to be worthwhile, and I never saw a rumor that mentioned any prospects that got me excited. Gorkys just doesn’t do it for me.

      I know Girardi’s a big fan of Swisher. He’s an upbeat presence in the clubhouse and a rah-rah guy on the bench, and Joe loves guys like that.

  • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

    I called Derrick Rose and Daequan Cook winning their competitions. I just made 10 bucks off my brother lol.

    • http://goldenrule.mlblogs.com/ Bryan V

      Daequan Cook…BUCKEYE!

    • http://goldenrule.mlblogs.com/ Bryan V

      What did Cook win?

      • http://goldenrule.mlblogs.com/ Bryan V

        Nevermind. I didn’t realize he was in the 3-point contest

        • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

          yeah, he owned that last round.

  • Bob Michaels

    “Love is a Many Splendored Thing”

  • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

    Lebron is entering next year into the dunk contest, that 12 foot dunk was sick.

    • Raf

      lebron in the contest will be good.
      him and howard should just have a dunkoff with the rim height raising.

  • http://26ncounting.blogspot.com VO

    DAMN 5 9″ slam dunk champ

    • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

      Dwight Howard is one foot and two inches taller than Robinson. Thats crazy.

  • http://www.bronxbaseballdaily.com Rob Abruzzese

    wasn’t it valentine’s day when the Yankees first got Arod?

    • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

      Good memory, just 2 days later.

      “February 16, 2004: Traded by the Texas Rangers with cash to the New York Yankees for a player to be named later and Alfonso Soriano. The New York Yankees sent Joaquin Arias (April 23, 2004) to the Texas Rangers to complete the trade. “

      • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

        Clemens was also picked up right after the Yanks got to Spring Training, I remember hearing about Wells walking out of Tampa crying.

        “February 18, 1999: Traded by the Toronto Blue Jays to the New York Yankees for Homer Bush, Graeme Lloyd, and David Wells. “

  • whozat

    Hey, did anyone else read this satirical article of satirical hilarity that is filled with satire?

    http://theyankeesrepublic.blog.....lex-r.html

    h/t Shysterball

  • Mike Pop

    Bruney takes it personal that Reynolds says the Yankees have problems bridging the gap to Mo according to Rosenthal. Pettitte says Arod is his teammate and he still loves him. Man it’s a slow time right now.

    • whozat

      Did Reynolds watch baseball last season? Does he think that losing Farnsworth has made the situation worse? Because…they were rocking Krazy Kyle for a while, then they traded him, picked up a hard-throwing lefty with a lengthy track record of success, and didn’t even need him to throw the 8th. And they had one of the better pens in baseball.

      And having starters that throw into the 7th or 8th regularly instead of limping through 5 or needing to get bailed out in the 6th every other start will make HUGE strides in making bullpen issues irrelevant.

      And I know that everyone who reads this comment knows this. BUT WHY DON’T COMMENTATORS SAY IT?!?!?!?! When Reynolds/Morgan/Kay says shit like this, why aren’t Leiter and Cone out there refuting them?

      • Mike Pop

        I just want someone to ask them this question:

        What is more valuable, 140 innings of 3.40 ball or 60 innings of 2.30 ball? Simple answer, right? Why doesn’t ANYONE ask them this on live television is what I want to know.

        • whozat

          Because they’ll argue that 60 innings of 2.30 ERA ball is better because he can “impact more games”

          Sure, if you understand advanced stats, the answer is obvious. But if you don’t…the “impact more games” answer feels plausible, if your team has had shitty pitching for years. You’ve seen so many leads slip away that the 8th inning FEELS so important.

          You don’t bother to reason it out and realize that better starters mean that the team winds up in fewer “close and late” situations, and your better bullpen arms are fresher when they DO come up.

          People tend to believe what feels true at first blush, because they’re lazy and often stupid.

          • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

            It can also depend on the makeup of your roster. If the Yanks didn’t have anyone who could build the bridge to Mo, than they have a better argument to make. That was a problem in recent years for the Yanks, but not last year.

            The Yankee bullpen was solid last year, Girardi did a great job handling it, and there’s more help on the way from the minors. Even the ‘relief ace’ argument loses steam when you realize their bullpen is fine without him.

            Torre was big on ‘shortening games’. The Championship teams of the late 90′s were deadly from the 7th inning on. Even last year’s Phillies team was another team that played a 7 inning game. So the Torre disciples all want Joba in the pen to recreate this.

            What they seem to forget is they also had pitching staffs (Key, Cone, Wells, Pettitte, El Duque, Clemens) that GOT YOU to the 7th inning, and that has to come first. You have to have something for the bullpen to save, or its a unused weapon.

        • http://and-that-happened.blogspot.com Evan

          On the Friday the 13th edition of “Hot Stove”, Reynolds suggested that the Rays put Price in the ‘pen. I just shook my head.

          • whozat

            At least he’s consistent. That sort of bothers me less than the guys who agitate for Joba to the pen, but salivate over other young starters.

  • CJ

    I’m a sunday season ticket holder since 2004, has anyone heard when the partial plans will be sent out? or what kind of seats are going to left for us? I’ve heard alot dissapointing stories from the 41 game plan holders this past week. Just wondering if anyone heard anything.

  • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

    Hey Mike, where was Melvin Croussett on your Top 30 Prospect list?

  • Mike Pop

    Fantasy Draft in 6 minutes, I so xcited!!

  • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

    Nice tidbit from LoHud

    “Rotation hints: Girardi has not set his rotation. But he said the Yankees want to keep their two left-handers – Sabathia and Andy Pettitte – apart. They also want to keep power pitchers Burnett and Joba Chamberlain from pitching on consecutive days.

    The idea is to give opponents different looks within the same series.

    The rotation, based on those qualifications, could be Sabathia followed by Chien-Ming Wang, Burnett, Pettitte and Chamberlain.”

    • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

      And another

      “TAMPA, Fla. – The Yankees have said they hope Jorge Posada will be able to catch as many as 110 games this season.

      “That’s the number they’re putting,” Posada said yesterday, selecting his words carefully. “But I think if everything holds up and everything feels fine, I think it will be more than that. I want it to be more than that.” ”

      http://www.lohud.com/article/2.....8/SPORTS01

      • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

        and . . . another

        “Matsui mashes: Hideki Matsui took batting practice for the first time since his knee surgery in September and looked strong, mashing three consecutive pitches into the right-field stands at one point.

        “It felt good,” said Matsui, who had surgery on his left knee last year and on his right knee after the 2007 season.

        Matsui has been jogging and hopes to be running full-speed in a few weeks.”

        • A.D.

          Matsui with a healthy knee is huge

    • Mike Pop

      Best rotation in the game.

      • Ryan S.

        Your damn right! And inning for inning, Joba is as good as anybody else on the staff, right up there with CC and Mo. Having Chamberlain and Sabathia pitch on consecutive days is going to be ridiculous.

  • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

    Great, great news.

    Bob Sheppard is on WFAN right now, saying his weight is back up to where his doctor wants it (145 lbs) and that he’s hopeful of a Opening Day return. He says he missed it terribly, and the only thing that will hold him back is his stamina.

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....n_rel.html

    Still, even if Rivera is OK, the Yankees don’t have another obvious heir apparent to him. So doesn’t it seem logical to return Joba to the bullpen, where he can make the Yankees practically unbeatable in the late innings again while assuring them of a weapon to match Boston’s Jonathan Papelbon when time finally catches up with Rivera?

    You know, when I get my copy of Street Fighter IV in the mail on Tuesday, I am going to deliver a Hadouken especially for John Harper’s idiotic self.

  • Ehren

    So the quote of the day comes from Carl Pavano (source, Buster Olney’s Daily Blog):

    “You want an offseason in which you can give your body a break.”

    Nice. I’m REALLY glad he was able to take it easy this offseason. I mean, the way he pushes himself to compete and never takes a break. 100% effort every hour of every day…Seriously, who better symbolizes the phrase, “It’s all about the championships”?

  • RobC

    I told a Red Sox fan, Dr Ken Miller, that I would post on a Yankees blog that I enjoyed listening to a Sox fan talk for 90 minutes.
    OK it wasnt about baseball, although he did mention baseball a few times.
    Ken Miller is a biologist at Brown, author, and was a key witness in the Dover PA trial.
    http://www.millerandlevine.com/km/evol/

  • Tom Zig

    As much as I hate the steroid talk, there is a good article on SI.com discussing how the Rangers’ Home Ball Park affected A-rod’s #s during 01-03

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....index.html

    • Ryan S.

      Doesn’t all of this stuff just make A-Rod’s 2007 season all the more amazing?