Valentine’s Day Open Thread


Sorry for the tardiness. Enjoy.

Categories : Open Thread


  1. Jake H says:

    wow long post.

  2. I <3 RAB. Will you be my Valentine?

  3. Jake says:

    Happy Single’s Awareness Day.

  4. Manimal says:

    Dunk Contest tonight!!!

  5. Jay CT says:

    TheLastClown, I just wanted to get back to you because I’ve been busy and didn’t get to carry on a conversation about the Leyritz incident. Figured I could throw this out in the open forum instead.

    I hear what you are saying that my comments were harsh, but I stand by them. The fact is, she WAS hit. Maybe she wouldn’t have been hit had she not been drunk. Maybe Leyritz wouldn’t have hit her if he hadn’t been. When you are in my line of work, and any DUI/DWI incidents that have a child in the car has a follow up from DCF (Department of Children and Families), so it does kind of fall into my line of work. I am very anti-drunk driving for numerous reasons. I hate sounding like the nerd in the group or what have you, but seeing what I see on a daily basis alters you. In this situation, for every “what if” you can give, I could give another. I would be just as adament if she hit him. Its WRONG. Being drunk and driving a 1 ton piece of equipment is a selfish act. I know most do it at least once in their life, and I am not saying that people shouldn’t be forgiven; however, I have a problem with that for two reasons. 1- The victim does not have the chance to now forgive him, as he took that ability from her. 2- He showed how sorry he was for this poor judgement call by violating his probation.

    I know that sometimes I let what I do run into my opinion, and I apologize. Seeing the damage that is caused from stupid accidents like this that are so easily avoided just really gets to me.

    • Bryan V says:

      Leyritz should be punished for what he did, intentional or not. But he deserves a second chance. Just like my brother who get arrested and fined after his first (and hopefully only) DUI last summer.

      • Jay CT says:

        I agree your brother deserves a second chance. If there isn’t a death, I believe a person should get a fine. Second time should get a short jail time. But if your brother killed someone, why would you not put him in jail? If he kills someone, it was his choice to drink. His choice to drive. It should be no choice; he should be put away.

        • Bryan V says:

          In cases in which somebody loses their life, or suffers any kind of major injury, yes…jail time should be handed down.

          This relates to what La Russa has said in regards to a zero-tolerance policy for PEDs in baseball. And it’s funny, because the first comment on that story on ESPN.com talked about La Russa’s DUI/DWI (not sure which it actually was).

          I guess I kind of got confused between the two conversations…sorry.

    • TheLastClown says:

      Hey brother, no worries. We don’t really have a difference of opinion. I regard all drunk driving injuries/deaths as irresponsible, senseless, and highly avoidable.

      You said yourself: “I would be just as adamant if she hit him”

      So, then, if she hit him, you would have said “Good. Fuck her. She deserves to go to jail. Disgusting.”

      All I was trying to say is that the coin flips both ways, but you obviously understand that.

      It saddens me to see incidents like this, I find them pathetic. I’m just not one to jump in the judgment chair and condemn people. Not saying you are, simply saying I’m not.

      • Jay CT says:

        I hear what you are saying. I try really hard to not judge until they are guilty, but I do admit I have a hard time not falling into the judgement portion before a person is guilty because once you start the car, if you were drinking, you are rolling the dice in my eyes. I have also had to testify quite a few times in child abuse hearings in regards to unfit parents and taking their rights away. We just got through removing a baby who was just born Thursday from her cocaine addicted mother. She lost her rights after her third child; she continues to have them, we continue to take them, five so far.

  6. John says:

    This picture is the microcosm of failure


  7. Manimal says:

    Should the yanks be worried about Ken Griffey Jr being targeted by the Braves? Does that mean they have moved on from Nady/Swisher?

    • Bryan V says:

      Looks that way.

      They don’t need a ton more run production, as they were only like 46 runs behind the Mets and Phillies last season. And since neither of those teams improved their offenses, the Braves didn’t need to go out and get a Dunn or Abreu. If healthy, Griffey will be enough of an upgrade. Especially being a bit cheaper than either of those other two.

      • Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

        Yeah, well it seems they weren’t willing to give up much for either of them. Talks really never went anywhere.

        I don’t think Griffey’s the answer to anything though, he’s shot. He’s 39, spent most of the past decade on the DL and while he’s been healthy for the past 2 seasons he hasn’t done much. 18 HR’s .249/.353/.424 (777 OPS) last year. Plus his range is way down in the OF at this point.

    • Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

      Either way, its fine by me. Trading either of those guys would have had to be worthwhile, and I never saw a rumor that mentioned any prospects that got me excited. Gorkys just doesn’t do it for me.

      I know Girardi’s a big fan of Swisher. He’s an upbeat presence in the clubhouse and a rah-rah guy on the bench, and Joe loves guys like that.

  8. Manimal says:

    I called Derrick Rose and Daequan Cook winning their competitions. I just made 10 bucks off my brother lol.

  9. Bob Michaels says:

    “Love is a Many Splendored Thing”

  10. Manimal says:

    Lebron is entering next year into the dunk contest, that 12 foot dunk was sick.

  11. VO says:

    DAMN 5 9″ slam dunk champ

  12. wasn’t it valentine’s day when the Yankees first got Arod?

    • Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

      Good memory, just 2 days later.

      “February 16, 2004: Traded by the Texas Rangers with cash to the New York Yankees for a player to be named later and Alfonso Soriano. The New York Yankees sent Joaquin Arias (April 23, 2004) to the Texas Rangers to complete the trade. “

      • Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

        Clemens was also picked up right after the Yanks got to Spring Training, I remember hearing about Wells walking out of Tampa crying.

        “February 18, 1999: Traded by the Toronto Blue Jays to the New York Yankees for Homer Bush, Graeme Lloyd, and David Wells. “

  13. whozat says:

    Hey, did anyone else read this satirical article of satirical hilarity that is filled with satire?


    h/t Shysterball

  14. Mike Pop says:

    Bruney takes it personal that Reynolds says the Yankees have problems bridging the gap to Mo according to Rosenthal. Pettitte says Arod is his teammate and he still loves him. Man it’s a slow time right now.

    • whozat says:

      Did Reynolds watch baseball last season? Does he think that losing Farnsworth has made the situation worse? Because…they were rocking Krazy Kyle for a while, then they traded him, picked up a hard-throwing lefty with a lengthy track record of success, and didn’t even need him to throw the 8th. And they had one of the better pens in baseball.

      And having starters that throw into the 7th or 8th regularly instead of limping through 5 or needing to get bailed out in the 6th every other start will make HUGE strides in making bullpen issues irrelevant.

      And I know that everyone who reads this comment knows this. BUT WHY DON’T COMMENTATORS SAY IT?!?!?!?! When Reynolds/Morgan/Kay says shit like this, why aren’t Leiter and Cone out there refuting them?

      • Mike Pop says:

        I just want someone to ask them this question:

        What is more valuable, 140 innings of 3.40 ball or 60 innings of 2.30 ball? Simple answer, right? Why doesn’t ANYONE ask them this on live television is what I want to know.

        • whozat says:

          Because they’ll argue that 60 innings of 2.30 ERA ball is better because he can “impact more games”

          Sure, if you understand advanced stats, the answer is obvious. But if you don’t…the “impact more games” answer feels plausible, if your team has had shitty pitching for years. You’ve seen so many leads slip away that the 8th inning FEELS so important.

          You don’t bother to reason it out and realize that better starters mean that the team winds up in fewer “close and late” situations, and your better bullpen arms are fresher when they DO come up.

          People tend to believe what feels true at first blush, because they’re lazy and often stupid.

          • Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

            It can also depend on the makeup of your roster. If the Yanks didn’t have anyone who could build the bridge to Mo, than they have a better argument to make. That was a problem in recent years for the Yanks, but not last year.

            The Yankee bullpen was solid last year, Girardi did a great job handling it, and there’s more help on the way from the minors. Even the ‘relief ace’ argument loses steam when you realize their bullpen is fine without him.

            Torre was big on ‘shortening games’. The Championship teams of the late 90′s were deadly from the 7th inning on. Even last year’s Phillies team was another team that played a 7 inning game. So the Torre disciples all want Joba in the pen to recreate this.

            What they seem to forget is they also had pitching staffs (Key, Cone, Wells, Pettitte, El Duque, Clemens) that GOT YOU to the 7th inning, and that has to come first. You have to have something for the bullpen to save, or its a unused weapon.

        • Evan says:

          On the Friday the 13th edition of “Hot Stove”, Reynolds suggested that the Rays put Price in the ‘pen. I just shook my head.

          • whozat says:

            At least he’s consistent. That sort of bothers me less than the guys who agitate for Joba to the pen, but salivate over other young starters.

  15. CJ says:

    I’m a sunday season ticket holder since 2004, has anyone heard when the partial plans will be sent out? or what kind of seats are going to left for us? I’ve heard alot dissapointing stories from the 41 game plan holders this past week. Just wondering if anyone heard anything.

  16. Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

    Hey Mike, where was Melvin Croussett on your Top 30 Prospect list?

  17. Mike Pop says:

    Fantasy Draft in 6 minutes, I so xcited!!

  18. Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

    Nice tidbit from LoHud

    “Rotation hints: Girardi has not set his rotation. But he said the Yankees want to keep their two left-handers – Sabathia and Andy Pettitte – apart. They also want to keep power pitchers Burnett and Joba Chamberlain from pitching on consecutive days.

    The idea is to give opponents different looks within the same series.

    The rotation, based on those qualifications, could be Sabathia followed by Chien-Ming Wang, Burnett, Pettitte and Chamberlain.”

    • Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

      And another

      “TAMPA, Fla. – The Yankees have said they hope Jorge Posada will be able to catch as many as 110 games this season.

      “That’s the number they’re putting,” Posada said yesterday, selecting his words carefully. “But I think if everything holds up and everything feels fine, I think it will be more than that. I want it to be more than that.” ”


      • Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

        and . . . another

        “Matsui mashes: Hideki Matsui took batting practice for the first time since his knee surgery in September and looked strong, mashing three consecutive pitches into the right-field stands at one point.

        “It felt good,” said Matsui, who had surgery on his left knee last year and on his right knee after the 2007 season.

        Matsui has been jogging and hopes to be running full-speed in a few weeks.”

    • Mike Pop says:

      Best rotation in the game.

      • Ryan S. says:

        Your damn right! And inning for inning, Joba is as good as anybody else on the staff, right up there with CC and Mo. Having Chamberlain and Sabathia pitch on consecutive days is going to be ridiculous.

  19. Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

    Great, great news.

    Bob Sheppard is on WFAN right now, saying his weight is back up to where his doctor wants it (145 lbs) and that he’s hopeful of a Opening Day return. He says he missed it terribly, and the only thing that will hold him back is his stamina.

  20. Jamal G. says:


    Still, even if Rivera is OK, the Yankees don’t have another obvious heir apparent to him. So doesn’t it seem logical to return Joba to the bullpen, where he can make the Yankees practically unbeatable in the late innings again while assuring them of a weapon to match Boston’s Jonathan Papelbon when time finally catches up with Rivera?

    You know, when I get my copy of Street Fighter IV in the mail on Tuesday, I am going to deliver a Hadouken especially for John Harper’s idiotic self.

  21. Ehren says:

    So the quote of the day comes from Carl Pavano (source, Buster Olney’s Daily Blog):

    “You want an offseason in which you can give your body a break.”

    Nice. I’m REALLY glad he was able to take it easy this offseason. I mean, the way he pushes himself to compete and never takes a break. 100% effort every hour of every day…Seriously, who better symbolizes the phrase, “It’s all about the championships”?

  22. RobC says:

    I told a Red Sox fan, Dr Ken Miller, that I would post on a Yankees blog that I enjoyed listening to a Sox fan talk for 90 minutes.
    OK it wasnt about baseball, although he did mention baseball a few times.
    Ken Miller is a biologist at Brown, author, and was a key witness in the Dover PA trial.

  23. Tom Zig says:

    As much as I hate the steroid talk, there is a good article on SI.com discussing how the Rangers’ Home Ball Park affected A-rod’s #s during 01-03


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