Midday rumor round-up: Pedro, Papelbon

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Yesterday afternoon, we examined the news that the Yanks plan to watch Pedro pitch today. The team could always use another arm, and I said yesterday, it doesn’t hurt to kick the tires.

Ken Davidoff and Steve Zipay have a little bit more info on the Yanks’ interesting the former Met hurler. While Pedro wants a prorated $5-million deal, the team would sign Pedro only to a Minor League contract. Odds are slim that the Yanks’ one-time arch-nemesis — and prodigal son — lands in the Bronx.

In other rumor news that’s making its way across the Yankees’ corner of the Internet, when asked about being a free agent, Jonathan Papelbon, a shrewd businessman, did not rule out the Yanks. Speaking on Sirius XM’s MLB Home Plate channel, he expounded on his thoughts on pitching in pinstripes:

“Oh, of course. I mean, I think if we can’t come to an agreement on terms here in a Red Sox uniform, I mean, I think that’s pretty much the writing on the wall. If they can’t come to terms with you they’re letting you know that, ‘Hey you know what? We can go somewhere else.’ And I think it’s the same way on the other side, ‘Hey if ya’ll can’t come to an agreement with me then I can go somewhere else.’ Not only in the Bronx, but anywhere. I think anywhere is a possibility.You always have to keep that in the back of your mind because you can’t just be one-sided and think that, ‘Oh I’m going to be in a Red Sox uniform my entire career.’ Because nowadays that is very, very rare and hopefully we can because there’s no question I would love to stay in a Boston Red Sox uniform but I have to do what’s best for me and play in an atmosphere where I’m wanted and play on a team where I’m wanted and that’s all I can really say about that, you know?”

For Papelbon, as it is with hundreds of other MLB players, it’s all about the money. For him to say he would never pitch in the Bronx is to give up a prime bargaining chip. I doubt though that Yankee fans would ever have to stomach the sight of Papelbon dancing some dumb jig in his Yankee skivvies.

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  • Jobamania

    I, for one, would like to see the yankees pick up pedro. We all know the money isn’t a problem. We need the starting depth and at worse he can pitch out of the pen. Plus, another player with an edge and experience is never a bad thing.

    • whozat

      Have you seen Pedro pitch in the last couple seasons? He’s a shadow of who he used to be. He’d be a complete waste of space on this team.

      • pat

        Even Angel Berroa thinks Pedro would be a waste of space. And he knows a thing or two about being a waste of space.

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

    Pedro really isn’t a downgrade from Brett Tomko, right? I mean, I highly doubt that.

    • whozat

      At 5mm pro-rated over the rest of the season he is.

    • Ed

      He’s asking for 12.5x the money Tomko makes though. He’s not 12.5x better than him.

      Also, if you expect Marte to return this season, or Melancon to get promoted, you shouldn’t be asking if Pedro is better than Tomko, but if he is better than the next guy up the depth chart.

  • Muel

    If papelbon had a lobotomy, with little effect on his pitching performance, i would have no problem with him in a mop-up role if he wanted to sign with the yanks in a couple years

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Benjamin Kabak

      From an on-field perspective, that’s sort of short-sighted. His career numbers — K/9 IP over 10 and an ERA+ of 254 — I would take in a heartbeat.

      • Muel

        you’re not accounting for the inevitable drop in performance from said lobotomy. plus, his peripherals aren’t as stellar this year. alright i’m reaching

  • pat

    pedro might be interchangeable with bombko but thats all moot as he is merely a placeholder for mount melancon.

    • Stormrider6

      “…mount melancon”

      I enjoy this nickname. Let’s hope he earns it.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Papelbon’s just trying to set himself up to get more money from the Sox in the future.

    • JP

      The length of the deal often seems to be the issue with these guys. How many years do you think Papelbon will want?

  • Arlok789

    I don’t want Papeldouche on the Yankees. His douchebag + level of 254,000,000 would offset any and all of his pitching peripherals.

  • jake

    ” I doubt though that Yankee fans would ever have to stomach the sight of Papelbon dancing some dumb jig in his Yankee skivvies.”

    We stomach joba act like an idiot on the mound. Joba seems a few iq points from being retarded. Don’t see much difference.

    • http://farm1.static.flickr.com/153/413671602_daded72a81_m.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

      The difference is that we haven’t watched Joba come up with the Sox and do anything in a Sox uniform for years before becoming a Yankee.

      One could also argue that Joba and Papelbon reside at different points on the idiocy scale, but that’s besides the point.

      • JP

        Papelbon is idiot AND psycho. Joba is probably just idiot. Papelbon is the type of guy I could picture holing up in the Texas Tower with an AK-47.

    • JP

      We stomach joba act like an idiot on the mound. Joba seems a few iq points from being retarded. Don’t see much difference.

      Tears in my eyes, laughing so hard….I’ve been wondering when someone was going to say this.

  • Anyone

    I wonder how Red Sox fans like this?

    • http://farm1.static.flickr.com/153/413671602_daded72a81_m.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

      They probably couldn’t care less. Papelbon would be a moron to say otherwise (that he wouldn’t listen to offers from the Yankees). Not to mention the fact that he won’t be on the market for years, so it’s not like this is a pressing issue.

      • Ed

        It’s not a pressing issue, but, maybe he wanted to get the thought in the minds of the Yankees front office while Rivera is looking bad (for him). Get them thinking about Papelbon as Mo’s replacement.

        • http://farm1.static.flickr.com/153/413671602_daded72a81_m.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

          I think it’s more likely he wanted to get the thought into the minds of the Sox front office.

          • Ed

            That’s the main reason you’d say something like that, but the timing is odd for that. Even if the thought did scare the front office, they’re not going to offer him a new contract now. Saying it in the offseason might help a little with his next contract.

      • Zach

        Why does it keep coming up? I think this is the second or third time he’s opening talked about contract/free agency, i mean lets ask joba if he would sign with the redsox in what 4 years?

        • Ed

          He’s all about getting record contracts. He may be saying it just because he likes to think out loud, or it might be a way to try to pressure Boston to offer him a long term deal.

  • Sweet Dick Willie

    For Papelbon, as it is with hundreds of other MLB players vitrually all professional athletes, it’s all about the money.


  • JP

    Pedro: He’s dreaming if he thinks he’s getting 5.5M anywhere, but obviously you don’t open the bidding with your lowest acceptable offer. In the end, he may get picked up for chump change.

    Papelbon: In the old days, George would have been all over this guy wooing him to NY. Papelbon seems just unstable enough to snap and leave Boston over some minor thing in the contract, and end up in NY. I swear, that long, rambling statement, the psycho on-field demeanor, the wild look in his eye, I think he’s the closest thing to a modern Ty Cobb when it comes to psychopathology that we have had in baseball in years.

    • jsbrendog

      ty cobb stabbed a guy. what has papelbon done. pussy.

    • King of Fruitless Hypotheticals

      i hardly think he deserve to be compared to Ty Cobb.

      come back to me when he stabs a guy.

    • Jersey

      Also, I hear Cobb was a better dancer.

    • JP

      You guys are right–the other aspect of the comparison that’s way off is that Cobb was very smart. Died a very wealthy man, from investments, etc., which he did mostly on his own. Papelbon’s apparent intelligence level suggests he’s from the shallow end of the gene pool.

  • JimT

    Papelbon has it stuck in his head that relief pitchers and closers in particular are underpaid for thier contributions. He wants to raise the bar, for himself to be sure, but for the benifit of those who follow. So, he is on something of a mission.

    I’ve met the guy and can tell you he is niether stupid or inarticulate. He is actually, very approachable, well spoken and charming. But he is also impulsive, a bit unfilterd (by design)and quick to say what is on his mind. You may not care for his approach, but he is no dummy.

    These comments are being recieved by The Nation like the tree that falls in the forest with noone there to hear. He isn’t a FA until after the 2010 season. So its really early to start posturing.

    Also, as much as I would love to see Pedro back pitching in the American League it would really, really suck to see him in Yankee Pinstripes. I didn’t feel the same about Clemens for some reason.

    • JP

      How did you meet him? ARe you in the business and you got to talk to him personally, or did you meet him at a fan event or something?

  • DisplacedYanksFan

    You’d be crazy not to want Papelpants in pin stripes. Hell! I would put Wally the Green Monster in pin stripes if it meant winning another world series!

  • donttradecano

    Pass on both.

  • Whitey14

    I’d hate to see Papelbon leave, but you don’t really think the Sox are going to pay him Rivera-like money, long term, when they’re already busy grooming replacements do you? If his goal is to set a record for Closer’s salaries throughout his career, he’ll be doing it someplace other than Boston. He’d be a natural successor to Rivera and the timing seems pretty good too.

    Investing Starter dollars in a Closer, is as close to ridiculous as anything I can think of, especially for an overvalued statistic like Saves, which any of us should be able to get a dozen of just by pitching to contact with a three run lead facing the 7-8-9 hitters of most teams.