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Donald Fehr resigned.. Maybe the other 102 names on the list are going to be publicized somehow and he’s gettin outta dodge before the sh*t hits the fan.
Its actually around 90-ish. Some of these geniuses actually failed the test twice. Yes, they were notified in advance.
lol that made my day
+1
If those were the guys dumb enough to fail a PED test they knew was coming, figure at least double that were using and stopped, and double it again for thew guys who dabbled in it at one time or another.
From the late 90′s to 2005, it was at least half the game at one time or another. Some guys more than others, and the top performers I’ll bet it was 75-90% continuously using.
Agreed. Those numbers may be low.
Hahaha, awesome. I kinda hope the list is just Sammy Sosa then Arod’s name 103 times.
http://nomaas.org/steroidlist.html
The MSM keeps reporting that we know 2 names on the list, but aren’t there actually 3 names that we know:
A-Rod
Sammy Sosa
Barry Bonds
The whole reason the list was not destroyed was because it was subpoenaed as part of Bonds’ perjury/obstruction of justice case. Maybe I’m wrong, but that would mean that his name is on the list. If he’s not on the list, then the government would not have pushed to have the evidence allowed at trial and the list could have been destroyed (of course, the defense could have pushed to have it included as evidence he was clean, but that didn’t happen).
I’m editing what I’ve written (so far) of my novel. Reading size 10 font is HARD.
What’s it about?
Baseball.
It follows a fictional team through the course of one season though the pov of their catcher.
Does the fictional catcher wear a C on his chest?
And fight with his mask on?
No, def fights with the mask off.
Does he pee on his hands?
Probably.
Do the pitchers smell the ball when he throws it back to them?
Not literally.
Transformers. They’re more than meets the eye. It’s a romantic comedy.
Great googily moogily. Mrs. Andrews is looking especially yummy tonight.
Dude you beat me to it… I don’t care what tommysmithvonlovesdudes says, she is an angel. And she wears sundresses. I love sundresses.
I never said she was an ugly hosebeast. I said she’s solidly above average.
I just took issue with some people saying that she was some sort of SidelineCommentBabe Hall of Famer.
She’s Jim Rice, tops.
Eh agree to disagree, I’d say shes the best looking out of the bunch.
Who else is in the bunch, out of curiosity?
I’d say we’re currently in a major drought of quality SidelineBabeage. It’s like the post-Jordan NBA era; sure, Allen Iverson might be the best player in the league, but what does that really mean?
Pam Oliver, suzy kolber, rachel nichols, bernstein, jeanie zelasko.. yeah it’s a pretty weak crop unless you start incorporating the team specific reporters like homewreckin heidi watney. Nevertheless IMHO, EA is easily the best plus she has the added bonus of being good at her job and being respected by other women… did I mention the sundresses?
Okay. I’ll stick by my Iverson comp.
Erin Andrews is the best, prettiest sideline reporter in the game today, and that’s more of an indictment of how weak the game is today than it is praise for her talents.
Better than Lisa Salters?
Better than Lisa Salters?
Yeah. Salters is meh.
Lisa Salters? you’re bringing a knife to gunfight son.
Ooooh, i found an active girl who blows Andrews away:
Molly Sullivan. Covers football for Fox Sports Net.
This Molly Sullivan of yours… does not blow EA away.
She does not have the comparable so-called “t-shirt cannons”, if you will.
Meh, she looks like any blonde bimbo you find crawling the streets of Miami. Too harsh looking, EA is soft and pretty, that sullivan chick looks like she’s shank you for coke. Plus her voice is mad annoying.
Joe Namath would have to disagree. He puts Suzy Kolber at the top of his list.
lol at “shank you for coke”
Is she feared?
Not like Bernie Williams, no.
So a true Hall of Famer then?
God I love it when you bring up Hall of Famer Jim Rice
+1 to your love of sundresses.
+2
And a tip of the hat to you, gentlemen.
Beltran to the DL, Mets are definately screwed now
As I said on Twitter, it’s not an injury bug. It’s a black death-meets cholera-meets syphilis-meets typhoid pandemic.
Tatis is hitting cleanup tonight…
That’s bad, unless it’s 1999.
/checks google
Holy Crap!
Prime candidate to show up on “the list”?
I would think so, thats a pretty ridiculous season to have. He used to have alot of conditioning problems back in the day so really knows. Kinda sucks that every single person who ever was able to put it together for a season or two before falling off is now automatically associated with roids…
The problem I have with it is that there would have been absolutely no reason for him to stop using in 1999-2001 when his dropoff occurred. The people that I really question are the ones that fell off a cliff between 2003 and 2005.
did we win that protest that Girardi submitted?
Not sure, but I doubt it. Those things are never upheld.
George Brett says Hello.
Most of them are related to a missed call (i.e. a player was out, but called safe). Those are never upheld, but if there was a mis-application of the rule there is a chance it would be.
My problem with this specific situation is that there is no penalty for the Marlins. Let’s say we had a similar situation and we pinch hit Damon for the pitcher and put the new pitcher in the place of Gardner. Then come out for defense with Gardner in center. That’s a HUGE defensive advantage over having to put Damon out there. If the only penalty is that Gardner has to come out (which would have been the case anyway), then why not do this every time? Maybe you get 1 pitch, maybe you don’t, but there seems to be a slight upside with apparently no downside.
I have a question about the off-topic note. Is it acceptable to post some slightly off-topic things in game threads? Or do game threads have to be completely about that Yankees game on that specific day?
Also, it would be nice if people didn’t always tell people to go to other blogs when they disagree with them. People seem to always tell people to go to “LoHud” or describe comments as “LoHuddish”. There is no need to attack the quality of another blog in addition to a poster.
There is no need to attack the quality of another blog in addition to a poster.
What if the blog in question has a long track record of being hopelessly swamped by troglodyte morons?
Good point, I draw the line at Homo ergaster and later. Homo georgicus and earlier are fair game.
When we say Go To LoHud we’re not attacking the blog itself, but instead some of the rather moronic things people have said there.
I guess all I’m saying is if someone says something really dumb, why waste the time to describe them as a type of poster that belongs on another blog?
Sometimes we suffer from Ecclesiastes syndrome: there is nothing new under the sun.
We’ve had all the same arguments as other Yankees blogs, about the Santana non-trade, Joba’s proper role, etc etc.
Showing up and posting a long-winded rant about those or similar topics, or about how Girardi should be fired because he made a minor strategic error aren’t going to be received kindly.
Maybe we should be nicer, as Mike says above, but that doesn’t mean rehashing settled arguments.
Ecclesiastes syndrome? You are my new hero for using the less common term for writer’s block.
Vanity of vanities, all is vanity.
The LoHud link is sort of code over here for saying “You’re too emotional/irrational/uninformed/clueless to argue with” and tells them to go somewhere where they’ll fit in.
You’re right, its not nice. But I think I can speak for most of the regulars around here in saying we don’t want this place to turn into LoHud. Many of us are LoHud/messageboard refugees. Even PA has his reservations, and has kicked around the registration idea from time to time.
LoHuddish is the quality the the comments. Pete Abe is a good reporter and despite me disagreeing with him on some topics, he does a fine job keeping his blog up. However it has more than its fair share of idiotic commenters.
Tommie i wanted your take on the latest Knick news/rumors?
1. Jeffries and Hughes to Washington
2. Frank isola saying the Knicks feel confident they can trade up to grab Rubio.
1. I doubt that happens. What does that accomplish for the Wizards, and who else is involved in the deal?
2. I have no desire at all to move up OR take Ricky Rubio. I’m confident that three of the four players we’re linked to at #8 will end up being better than Rubio (Brandon Jennings, Stephen Curry, Jrue Holliday).
I’d take all three of those far more athletic, far better scoring, and light-years better defending guards over Rubio straight up. The only projected Knicks pick at #8 I’d take Rubio over is Jordan Hill, who looks decidedly average IMO.
I want Jennings.
Jennings over Curry?
No, Curry over Jennings, but it looks like Curry won’t be there, and Jennings will.
Agreed, would you try to trade up for Curry though? I think I might. This is such a key draft for us.
No. I’m not trading up, because whom/what do we really have to trade up with? We can’t give up Chandler or Gallinari, and nothing else we have would really entice anyone.
Furthermore, the difference between Curry and Jennings is small. Not big enough to warrant giving up valuable pieces in a trade up.
What is the exact deal with sign and trades? I know Lee and/or Nate can’t be packaged in a deal until July 9, but I’ve read lots of rumors and stories saying there could be a deal agreed to in advance. The logistics seem confusing though.
Dunno, NBA logistics are retarded.
I’d imagine if we could work out a deal to use Nate or David in a sign and trade for a pick, we’d just tell the team in question to pick whomever we want to pick. I was all over the rumored Detroit’s #15 and Amir Johnson for Lee in a sign and trade, but it looks like Dumars isn’t moving the pick after all.
I’ll take Jennings because he keeps it real.
Don’t ya think ur slighting Rubio a little? It’s not like Stephen Curry is all world defensive player. Jennigs is not really a pure PG. Holliday would be my choice though.
Ricky Rubio’s comp is Steve Nash.
That’s not necessarily a compliment. Rubio is only 18 so he could change, but all reports are that he’s a HORRIBLE, TERRIBLE, ATROCIOUSLY HORRENDOUS defensive player. That, plus the fact that he can’t shoot and isn’t a good finisher, makes me think that Nash (who’s already a very, very overrated player) is probably an unrealistic comp since he just won’t be that good offensively, thus making his defensive traveshamockery more problematic, so his real comp is probably more Jason Williams.
Meaning that Rubio will probably be a decent NBA player because he does have a great passing gift, but he’s far from a lock to be a superstar.
I’ll take Brandon Jennings’s ability to get anywhere he wants on the floor, like Rajon Rondo/Tony Parker and his defensive intensity over Rubio’s wildcard.
Understanable. personally I want Holliday. Not a huge Curry fan. To me he’s really an undersize, not so athletic combo guard, who will struggle against longer and bigger wing players.
Jennings might have the highest ceiling, but the lowest floor, and his game reminds me of Marbury, which is great and bad at the same time.
Holliday has the best package of the pgs.
PS: I agree Nash was overrated. Think about it, he has more MVP’s than Shaq and Kobe, talk about a travesty.
Supposedly Jennings matured while playing over in Europe and improved his game alot, problem is his minutes were so erratic NBA scouts didnt really get a good look.
Yup. Excepting Griffin, since he’s the Strasburg of the draft (there’s no way he’s slipping), my wish list is, in order:
1) Evans
2) Curry
3) Jennings
4) Holliday
5) Harden
6) Rubio
7) Thabeet
8) Flynn
9) Hill
10) Derozan
That’s not where I think they’re going, that’s whom I’d take for the Knicks at #8 in descending order of desirability.
Derozen is a sick dude with the skills. I don’t if he has that “it”.
Yeah, on talent, Derozan would be #5 on that list, but his massive bust potential pushes him way down the list.
1. Not sure who else is involved, but for some reason the wizards want to rebuild their team that went to the second round and miss jared jeffries.
2. Im 100% for Brandon Jennings. I would kill to have him running the point for this team. I dont see Walsh trading up unless he gets another pick somehow, or moves curry or jeffries contract.
My big board not counting big men would be:
1. Jennings
2. Curry
3. Lawson
4. Evans
5. Holiday
6. Rubio
U like Evans? Ewwww.
If I had the #1 pick in the draft, I’d take Blake Griffin.
If I had the #2 pick in the draft, I’d take Tyreke Evans. He’s legit. Super legit. Length, quickness, finishing ability… Evans is the second best player in this field.
I’ll take Earl Clarke before I take Evans. He takes poor shots, not a great ball handler. Clarke is long, athletic, quick, with a ton of skill at the SF position and be a pt foward, and play multiple positions.
C-L-A-R-K
I do love Clark as well, and he’s who I’d take at #15 if we do end up getting that pick from the Pistons. But Tyreke Evans is a WAY, WAY better player than Earl Clark. Not really that close.
I don’t know, mailny cuz im not a huge Evans fan. Personally I think Clarke can be a that pt foward on a championship team alla Lamar Odom. And while odom is an underachiever, he can play on my team anyday.
C-L-A-R-K
Sorry C-L-A-R-k.
Im off today.
And a poor outside shooter.
+1, although I don’t like to judge a guy like Rubio when I haven’t seen him. I think scouting reports on foreign players are often hyperbolic, both regarding the negative and positive.
Plus, from what ive read hes been impressive in workouts.
ESPNs Hollinger rater has Lawson as the #1 player in the draft, followed by Griffin and Evans.
He also rated Kevin Love, Joe Alexander, Mario Chalmers, George Hill, and Chris Douglas Roberts as better prospects than Derrick Rose last year, so…
Hollinger’s rankings aren’t exactly the bible.
The problem wit Hollinger, is that he tries to use sabmetrics in basketball like baseball. Two totally different sports and really sometimes don’t explain as much in basketball like Baseball.
Just to elaborate on Ivan’s point, basketball is much more of a team game than baseball, which makes it much more difficult to quantify an individual’s impact. Look at how hard it has been to distill a pitcher’s performance so as to evaluate him without mixing in the luck and fielding that altered the result- basketball is a team game all the time- you have that problem in every evaluation you do.
Hollinger is sort of a pioneer in statistical research of basketball. However, the problem with trusting his data is that pioneers are often wrong, or at least limited- they dont have a lot of people critiquing their work, so they keep making faulty assumptions and mistakes. Some of Bill James earliest stuff has since been ripped to shreds. Hollinger’s stuff is decent, but I wouldn’t use it to make any sort of serious judgements on players or teams.
From 2002 to 2007, 15 players were (a) among the first 10 collegians drafted and (b) excluded from the top 12 by the Draft Rater. In other words, these were the college players the Draft Rater thought were drafted too high. Of those 15, not one has played in an All-Star Game. The only two who have started a significant number of games in the long term have been Kirk Hinrich (who was 13th in the Draft Rater in 2003) and Charlie Villanueva.
• Carlos Boozer was the 26th collegian taken in 2002; Draft Rater had him second.
• Josh Howard was 17th in 2003; Draft Rater had him fifth.
• Danny Granger was the 13th collegian in 2005; Draft Rater had him third.
• Rajon Rondo was the 16th collegian taken in 2006, but Draft Rater had him second.
• Rodney Stuckey was the 14th collegian chosen in 2007; Draft Rater had him fifth.
for each bad pick theres a bunch of good picks.
Is house a new episode?
summer reruns
lame
Since there’s no Geico trivia question, I’ll ask tonight’s Final Jeopardy question.
Category: Presidents On Film
Answer: “Filmed signing a bill into law, in 1895 he became the first U.S. President to appear on moving film.”
I’m shocked that all three contestants got it wrong. I don’t expect most Americans to know who was president in 1895, but I do expect at least one of the three people smart enough to make it onto Jeopardy to know that. Shocking.
Grover Cleveland?
Either Grover Cleveland or Benjamin Harrison. I know McKinley was shot in 1901 but I don’t know how far into his term he was.
It was his second term.
I’m going to say McKinley, though I’m pretty sure he was elected for his first term in ’96. I just don’t know who came directly before him.
Off the top of my head, I guessed McKinley. Then I looked it up on wikipedia. Oh well.
Yeah, it was Cleveland. His non-consecutive terms were after the elections of 1884 and 1892, so he would have been in office for the second term from 1893-1897. McKinley was elected in 1896 and again in 1900 (before being assassinated.)
The three contestants answered 1) McKinley, 2) no answer given, and 3) Taft.
Taft? Seriously? Taft came after Roosevelt. No returning champion should make that bad of a guess.
Really bad guess, especially considering that Taft was Roosevelt’s VP.
Really bad guess, especially considering that Taft was Roosevelt’s
VPSecretary of War.Fixed.
Charles Fairbanks was Roosevelt’s VP. As in Fairbanks, Alaska.
My bad.
Taft? That’s a terrible guess. He was a 20th century president and served on the Supreme Court in the 1920s.
Another intersting Taft side note: He was involved in one of the more interesting elections in U.S. history, the election of 1912. Taft, the Republican incumbent ran against Roosevelt, the Bull Moose Progressive Party nominee, and the eventual winner, Woodrow Wilson. Eugene Debbs, the Socialist also ran.
I know that Ben Harrison made the oldest known audio recording.
Thanks to RAB, I’ve now decided that the protagonist of my novel probably pees on his hands.
Thanks to
RABtommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside, I’ve now decided that the protagonist of my novel probably pees on his hands.Thanks to
RAB tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous UpsideJorge Posada and Moise Alou, I’ve now decided that the protagonist of my novel probably pees on his hands.Moises did it too?
Moises had Sammy Sosa do it for him.
Ugh.
Though when Sammy Sosa peed on his hands, his hands got stronger, more chiseled and grew 2 glove sizes as a result.
Its one thing to pee on your own hands…but to have another person do it? Jeez, some of these baseball players are weird fellows.
An urban legend has just been born.
Oof, you got me.
It wasn’t exactly a far fetched thing to say though.
The fact that it was that believable says a lot about baseball players and their bizarre superstitions.
Really, the ’2 glove sizes’ part should have given it away.
BTW-Solid piece of comedy right there, IIDSSM
I was replying to the “Sammy Sosa peed on Moises’ hands” part, I knew the 2 glove sizes was a joke.
and “IIDSSM” stands for…?
I hope Cervelli and Montero dont pee on their hands.
‘If I Do Say So Myself’.
Thanks
‘your honor, I never knowingly took steroids…now, this guy that peed on my hands…’
Probably?
You either pee on your hands or you don’t. Its like being pregnant.
Hey Ben, in your infinite subway knowledge do you know where the RCC is located?
The new one’s on 54th and 9th. More info here. From what I’ve heard and seen, the new one is about 10 times more awesome than the one in the new version of Pelham 1 2 3. See this post for more.
You’ve actually seen it? Thanks for the links btw.
Just pictures. Haven’t seen it in person. They’re secretive with that.
Someone please enlighten me on this one — what exactly is this hand peeing among catchers trope?
More John Henry (The new Hank Steinbrenner) Tweet trash:
During yesterday’s game:
Papi just hit one into the strongest wind I’ve seen here. Happy Fathers Day to all dads. Awful wet for a knuckler. 3 ahead of $400m offseason
He sure is VERY bitter.
If he wasn’t such a dick maybe tex would have signed in Boston.
According to many of the Boston beat writers, the initial meeting with Theo+Tex went great, but the follow up meeting with the owners was where things got off track.
I saw that too, but like HOW bad could have been for Tex to get that impression? Not saying the report isnt true, just curious what was actually said that turned Tex off
To be honest, I believe Tex when he said he wanted to be a Yankee all along. He’s a military brat, Girardi’s a drill sergeant and Hal attended Culver Military Academy.
I wonder if he would have had the same opinion if George were running the show. I expect that having Hal as the point man will help a lot – people love the money, but I can’t imaging the constant carping and PIs would endear people to being a Yankee.
Just saying he felt it was a good fit among comparable offers.
or maybe he showed him something that turned him off
It may have turned Tex off, but it did the job for Mr. J.H.
Hey, come on. Cut the poor guy some slack.
He only had 160 million to give to Tex, and it just wasn’t good enough.
*tears up*
hey he has a 100m pitcher with an ERA+ of 57 so his pockets are hurting
*sniff*
IT’S JUST NOT FAIR!!!
Who does he think he is????? MLB didnt want Mark Cuban in an ownership position as they felt it would demote the integrity of the game and this whole new Henry Twitter thing is very Cuban of him. I obviously hate his team, but thought he had more class…I hope someone from MLB contacts him about “tweeting” about other franchises
This is the one time I actually want Hank to talk, remember his red sox nation bullshit comment? classic
Henry is a bum.
Outside of LeBron, Who would u sign in 2010?
Wade, Amare or Bosh?
That dude on the lakers, I can’t remember is name Ariza? Something like that.
I think he was one the Knicks, Then Larry Brown fucked him over by relegating him to bench warmer.
Ariza is a classic role player type. If he is one of your best players, you are not going to win much, and he would not stand out on a team like the Knicks (the little things dont mean as much when the team does not defend).
That one.
hes the classic FA on a championship team and some team gives him 5yr/25m
Anyone else available?
Max contract to Wade with his injuries? no thanks
Amare is always whining about something, always wanting ball more, injuries also
Bosh isnt take over the game type player IMO, think hes a great #2 but not as a franchise player
Bosh. Wade is a classic short career guy, because he gets beat up too much. If you give him too long a deal, like he will want, you end up with an Iverson situation on your hand. Amare’s had microfracture surgery, that is bad for a big man. Bosh is a really good player, is only 25, and should be a nice fit in D’Antoni’s system. He also has a nicely developing back to basket game for the playoffs, when things slow down.
I’ll take Wade. He’s much better than AI was, and while u worry of the wreckless way he does play, he is however a better defender than AI ever was, and his jump shot has vastly improve.
Bosh really a Robin type. If he’s the second player on your team, great, u could win a championship. If he’s the #1 guy on your team, not as good.
I really doubt LeBron would help the Yankees much. I mean, he’s 6’9″, so he probably wouldn’t be a worthwhile hitter — too long of a swing, easily exploited.
As for pitching, I have no idea. I bet he’d be a hell of a center fielder, though.
Wade, Amare or Bosh?
Bosh – Option #1. You can’t coach size, and he’s still young and healthy.
Wade – Option #2. Better player than Bosh, but he’s a small and not a big, and you wonder when his body just up and quits on him. He’s like Iverson… the wall is there, and it will be hit. Those are inexorable truths. He’s a timebomb.
Amare – Ugh, no thank you. Pass. Do Not Touch. Radioactive. Under no circumstances. He’s so overrated, he makes Erin Andrews look appropriately rated.
You left out one of the most intriguing under the radar name: Joe Johnson. Don’t say you weren’t warned.
+1 Joe Johnson
+2. Let’s say the Knicks get a gift and unload Curry, and you can bring in 2 guys. Who would you go after, if you could get Lebron, and if you could not?
With Lebron, I would take Bosh. Without Lebron, I probably go Bosh and Wade, but I would think long about Johnson over Wade.
http://www.sportscity.com/nba/2010-nba-free-agents
thats the complete list to fill your team
Huh?
free agent list for 2010 just to see the pieces out there
Oh. Thanks!
Joe Johnson is terrific, is one more underrated players in the game.
I still think Wade is better than AI. Wade really improve his jumpshot where he doesn’t all the time play that reckless. And while Wade is shorter than the avg SG, he has a great wing span, and is built like a bull in the upper body which can absorb much punishment than AI can.
Again, Bosh is a great #2 player. Can win championships, but if he’s ur #1, I doubt u win championships with him as your best player.
Wade is better than Allen Iverson. The question is not about the peak. The question is about the valley, and the inevitability of it.
I understand that. I do think Wade will age better than AI. Plus, he had alot of his injuries earlier in his career which might be a good omen.
Plus, he had alot of his injuries earlier in his career which might be a good omen.
That doesn’t make sense.
http://images.jambase.com/fans.....dy/ron.jpg
I mean’t like hey he had his injuries in the past where he played that reckless style. Sorta like wit Reyes had earlier leg injuries in his career and until 09 he was healthy from 06-08. I can see Wade having those naging injuries earlier in his career and has his game progress and relies on more smarts and of course skill, he won’t be as injury prone. He played all 82 games I think in 09.
Nope. Still doesn’t make sense.
All NBA players have an odometer. Smaller guys who take a pounding and big guys who take a pounding hit the wall quicker. Wade’s older injuries count just as badly. At some point, he just won’t be able to jump anymore.
Bosh.
PG- Jennings/Curry/Holliday/Evans
SG- Chandler
SF- Lebron
PF- Gallinari
C- Bosh
Evans isn’t playing PG. He and LeBron would be sharing the 2 and 3 roles.
So hypothetically if they draft Evans, who plays PG in 2010?
TBA. We’ll worry about that in 2010.
I, for one, am very disappointed that Mike didn’t tell us to watch Jon and Kate Plus 8 tonight. Who’s with me?
No chance that show ends up with a divorce.
The L.A. Times’ gossip columnist disagrees with you.
Why do I even know this?
On a scale from 1-10, you’re dead to me.
IETC.
It’s not my fault my girlfriend watches this show. It’s part of the “You watch baseball 162 nights a year, let me watch my show” trade-off.
I know exactly what you’re talking about. I won’t say the wife “made me” watch CNN’s Showbiz Tonight on Saturday in order to watch the Jon and Kate coverage… but she appreciated it, and her appreciating me watching that helps me in the future.
It’s money in the bank. I’ll be spending it later.
American Idol all up in my feezy so pat can get drunk with his boys for sheezy.
Its like I’m Psychic.
Play ‘Mother Goose’ at Belmont this Sunday.
not until the money stops flowing in
My GF told me they filed for divorce this afternoon.
My wife and I will be watching. She knows it’s coming I mean who hasn’t seen the end in sight?
My brother’s wife, for one.
Denial is a powerful thing, my friend.
I saw this in an earlier thread, the draft recap thread I believe, about making cross racial comps. and I just thought I’d throw it out there that I said if all goes 10000% right for Brett Gardner, he’d be like Willie Randolph–average BA, good OBP, low SLG, good defense, good baserunning.
Cross-racial comps? What does race have to do with baseball player comparisons?
It came up in the draft-recap thread when someone said Mack’s swing looked to have a little Bonds/Griffey.
Stereotypes? I’d start a list, but I’m not in the “insult other races” type of mood tonight.
I’ll guess it was this meme:
White player-Gritty
Black Player-Athletic
for two guys with the same numbers.
Black players aren’t compared to white players, and vice versa. Simple.
That one. It was started by someone comparing DeAngelo Mack’s swing to Barry Bonds and Ken Griffey Jr, which doesn’t make much sense, IMO.
For the record, I’ve argued repeatedly for Brett Gardner’s comp to be Dave Roberts rather than Brett Butler.
We’re colorblind, TSJC.
While there’s exceptions to every rule, the overwhelming majority of people who say they’re “colorblind” are anything but.
And, being colorblind isn’t necessarily a good thing, you know.
Agreed. Not recognizing/acknowledging differences is wholly ignorant.
Are you even allowed to drive if you’re colorblind?
For the record, I’ve argued repeatedly for Brett Gardner’s comp to be Usain Bolt rather than Brett Butler.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLVY2pWA7-U
Fixed that for ya.
I’m amazed how many people who hate Girardi have suggested hiring Willie Randolf.
The Yanks didn’t think of Willie as a manager when he was here, why would they think more highly of him after the Met collapse(s)?
Because veterans hate Girardi, but Girardi needs to rest veterans and give Posada moer days off
MSM
Willie lost Reyes and some of the veterans on that team. Plus, he rode Reyes into the ground in 07 when he clearly needed a break.
But Manuel did the same thing in 08, had a similar collapse and nobody says boo.
Texas is teeing off
Fuckin A back to back to back jacks.
T Tucker homered to left.
B Belt grounded out to first.
R Moldenhauer homered to center.
C Rupp flied out to center.
K Keyes homered to left center.
Well then, somebody hasn’t been paying attention.. whoops/
i had to go check, they came fast though
Any of you ever listen to Vitamin String Quartet?
I think I’m in love.
No, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
RAB your the best. Hopefully we can move past this because this is the best Yankee community on the web.
I’d be willing to bet a small fortune that Pedro is on that list of 102. Any takers?
Alfonso Soriano.
You don’t have to be big to be a juicer. He’s got crazy power for such a wiry guy.
I can’t wait for the day until I see it. Nothing will give me more joy than to see Pedro’s name on it.
Why?
Because I lost respect for the man when he threw a 75 year old man to the ground. That’s why Ben.
Agreed.
http://archive.deseretnews.com.....early.html
Published: Friday, Feb. 15, 2002
FORT MYERS, Fla. — Pedro Martinez was a strange sight in the Boston Red Sox clubhouse Thursday — more muscular and, for a change, an early arrival at spring training
Credit an offseason program in his native Dominican Republic during which he lifted weights regularly for the first time. He said he took just seven days off and spent so much time in the gym that he sometimes didn’t get to his boat, where he listened to music, until 10 p.m
Standing bare-chested by his locker the day before pitchers and catchers were due to report, the difference in the 30-year-old Martinez was obvious Thursday.
His chest was beefier, his biceps more defined. He hopes the extra strength and conditioning will keep him off the disabled list for the first time in four seasons.
Martinez is only 5-foot-11 but he reported at about 190 pounds, 12 pounds heavier.
“When I saw my arms getting so big I was like, ‘Wow, it looks good,’ ” he said with a smile. “But I don’t know, is it going to be heavier to bring it up to throw the curveball?”
“I’m not a small man anymore,” he said. “Hopefully, I’ll keep most of the weight.”
Wow.
What are the odds he wasn’t working out with Presinal?
1,000,000,000,000,000 to 1?
Here’s the list of baseball players who took steroids:
Everbody.
[end of list]
Happy now?
If Alex (and even Barry as well) is kept out of the HOF, they should change the name of it to “HOF pre mid 1990′s”…Alex is an incredible talent who I wont bother to defend b/c we all probably have strong feelings already for him one way or another. Barry is one of the best players ever PRE ROIDS.
sorry that belonged under the next post
Except for any Red Sox players.
For Alex’s sake, he should hope that there are a bunch of HOF types that nobody thinks did it. Someone like John Smoltz, Tom Glavine or Bowie Kuhn.
Even better for Alex, if a guy who’s already inducted shows up on that list, then it makes it even harder to keep him out.
Yeah, I really hope someone who is already inducted is outed, not that I wish bad on them, but it’s reality. And maybe these clowns won’t again vote in a Jim Rice because he was “clean” Says who? Steroids were in sports throughout his whole career.
Oh, god, I so hope some already inducted Hall of Famers are on the list. That would be delicious irony.
Kirby Puckett. Yeah, I said it.
He’s a no doubt juicer.
All those domestic abuse charges? Roid rage.
I’ll go with the 4 HR’s in his first 1200+ at bats. Then he gets jacked and hits 31 next season.
My two favorites would be:
Joe Morgan
John Kruk
and even thought he never played…
Steve Phillips
I’d love to have someone that no one suspects announce during their induction speech that they used. I could just imagine the reactions as they sit down and no one says a thing…
If Alex (and even Barry as well) is kept out of the HOF, they should change the name of it to “HOF pre mid 1990’s”…Alex is an incredible talent who I wont bother to defend b/c we all probably have strong feelings already for him one way or another. Barry is one of the best players ever PRE ROIDS.
The only one currently in the HOF/possibly on that list could be Rickey, no?
Yeah, they started testing in 02, so it would have to be someone inducted after 07 on the first ballot. But who knows, maybe something comes out by another means.
BTW-I’m so disappointed in you people. BOWIE KUHN??? I give up.
I read it and was puzzled. But I did laugh.
I assume all commissioners are on el jugo .
Landis invented steroids.
A-rod 3rd, Tex 4th anyone?
Meh.
Tex as #3: .971 OPS
Tex as #4: .902 OPS
A-rod as #3: .999 OPS
A-rod as #4: .955 OPS
Context.
I’d be alright w/it.
How about we catch routine fly balls and throw to the plate somewhere in the same zip code?
Wow, that dude’s quick.
I never understood why guys slid when they didn’t have to.
Like sliding head first into first base?
So people will say “I like that guy. He gets his uniform dirty.”
Well, he was drafted 23rd overall, so he must have impressed a few peeps.
They need to round up all of Travis Henry’s baby mama’s and all his illegitimate kids, put them in a house I’d watch that ish.
He didn’t celebrate father’s day yesterday, he’s celebrating father’s week. Can’t get it all done in one day.
Sabathia to make next start
http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=4720
Premature, lets see how the week shapes up
“Open Thread: An RAB PSA”
Oh no. I hate needles.
I read it too quick at first and thought it said “Open Thread: ARAB PSA”.
I was all, “What does Iraq have to do with all this?”
this comment section is nails tonight
lots of laughs
Yeah, where are all the comments about the Yankees sucking and that somebody should be fired or waived? I really, really miss that.
Ranger11 should be fired and Dela G should be waived.
There, now I feel better!
HAHA you can’t waive me…
I can do anything; I’m the chief of police.
Seconded. So, as the RAB threads return do the normal, so do the Yankees?
Well no game is on tonight, so no trolls come out to play today.
That’s offensive to trolls.
this comment section is nails tonight
Nails Krzyzewski?
Nolan Ryan anyone? Throwing high 90′s into his late 40′s, and leading the league in k’s 4 straight years starting at the age of 40?
Cal Ripken? 2600+ straight games?
Jim Rice? Fear came directly from his famous roid rage incidents in the clubhous.
Carlton Fisk? OPS+ starting at age 40:155, 136, 134. As a catcher.
Plenty of possibilities there.
Nolan Ryan anyone? Throwing high 90’s into his late 40’s, and leading the league in k’s 4 straight years starting at the age of 40?
See, this is what I never got. When Clemens was older and throwing hard, everyone made it seem as if there were no other way he could’ve done it but by ‘roids, yet no one dares say the same thing of Ryan.
What about Randy Johnson?
Steroids make you strong, not ugly.
But if there’s an ugly pill I bet he’s addicted to the motherfucker.
Like Elaine with the sponge, Unit bought up the world’s remaining supply of ugly pills.
He is the ugliest man I have ever seen, 2nd is Lemmy from Motorhead.
He was 6’2″ and 195 pounds.
No reason he shouldn’t have pitched 27 years throwing the ball 100+MPH and rarely get hurt.
This is what happens to people who make the link between Nolan Ryan and steroids:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUdFOKWC2ME
PS LOL @ Keith Olberman
mustache AND mullet, classic
HOW DARE YOU, MRS. LEBERSTEIN, HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!!!!
Hank Aaron?
His teammate Tom House was an admitted steroid user, and said several players on every team were using. Home runs per season starting at age 35: 44, 38, 47 (career high at age 37), 34, 40 (in 120 games). Certainly suspicious.
Frank Baker.
Had a more than 500% increase in homers from 1910 to 1911. Goes from 2 HR’s to league leader in one year? Juicer.
Allen Iverson=HOF?
Yes.
Agreed, I say first ballot.
“first ballot” is one of my hugest pet peeves in all of sports.
If he’s good, vote for him. If not, don’t. Don’t artificially not vote for someone you intend to vote for later because you care about whether someone is “first ballot” or not.
Agreed. Though I think 15th ballot is much worse. For 19 years (5+14) the writers decided Jim Rice wasn’t a HOF. Then, he was.
Meh, no matter which year Rice went in, it was a traveshamockery.
See, I agree with that but if (when?) Blyleven gets in, people will say the same thing and I want Blyleven in there badly.
That can be passed off as, “They finally opened their effing eyes!!” (and spreadsheets)
Very true, very true.
Sure, Bert Blyleven was nice and all, but he wasn’t a “big game pitcher” like Jack Morris.
Sincerely,
Idiots Everywhere
Haha. Blyleven’s post season numbers > Jack Morris’s.
DB HOF?
If Donnie Baseball ever gets elected, I will watch that induction ceremony with my own eyes.
and with Excel open.
I went to Scooter’s. Don’t remember the other guy. His speech was one ling story collection…everyone loved it.
Would love to go back.
I’ve been to three Inductions. Fun stuff.
I went to Yaz/Bench as my dad is Sox fan. Pretty good year to go though. Always had plans on going to Clemens’. Good thing I haven’t booked a room yet.
I plan on going to Mariano’s.
A LOCK
bandbox in omaha
the moneyball movie is in trouble. we may never get to see dmitri martin play paul depodesta
haha damn that pitcher is fast as hell too.
throws 88 without any training for pitching too
92
Crazy shit
As mentioned above, this has been a great chat. In fact, it’s a major improvement in a very short time. Does it need an asterisk?
hahah
I’ve been snorting powderized moose testicles for years now, FWIW.
I have a feeling comments can and will get alot funnier after our first RAB day at the stadium and we all meet. I know I for one, hold back on making alot of jokes because I feel like I don’t know people well enough and don’t want to offend anybody.
I take offense to that. Highly inappropriate!!!!
You’ve been holding back, pat?
This whole time, I thought crazy degenerate fucko pat was totally uncensored. The fact that this has been the censored version all along scares the living piss out of me.
I’m just glad I won’t be attending the meetup. I may see or hear things that just can’t be forgotten, courtesy of pat.
Did I miss something? Is there an actually scheduled meet up?
The specter of maybe having to hang out with me has scared Steve H into Pre-RSVP’ing No to the first inagural RAB party. I expect more to follow, starting with the womenfolk.
Bwahaha, it only gets
worsebetter from here on out big guy.Eric, to give you an idea of what everybody’s in for, I’ll just say this.
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Two posts, One cup.
HAHAHAHA
From Pete Abe;
“More Brett Gardner: The Little G is 15 of his last 43 and has his batting average up to .284 with a .358 OBP. Melky Cabrera is 12 of 62 since his shoulder injury in Texas. He is down to .282 with a .340 OBP. Melky has more power and should play his share. But Gardner could add the energy the Yankees have lacked lately and is a superior defender.”
Along with Cervelli and Robertson.
May I say “I told….” nah, forget it! Just being right is enough.
The “Kiddy Korp.” is in full swing, they will never be big time stars but, they could be very helpful for the Yanks.
“Kiddy Korp”: Gardner, Cervelli, Robertson, Phil, Pena and of course Joba.
and our new setup man, Phil Phranchise.
Temporary set up man! I hope….
To quote Winston Wolf, “Let’s not start sucking each other’s #$%& quite yet.
They’re both fringy starters. Whomever is hot plays. Right now, that’s Gardner. A month from now, it will probably flip-flop.
If anyone’s entitled to say I told you so, it was me with my advocacy for Mike Cameron, who’s 248/.356/.469 (117+) and superior CF defense (+5.3 UZR) trumps anything Gardner or Melky have given this year.
+1 on the Cameron bandwagon. He’s a poor man’s Torii Hunter, though surprisingly not as poor as one might suspect.
Except for the fact of both Melky and Brett are much younger and hopefully have room for improvement, whereas Cameron is older and not much room for improvement.
Cameron 36 yrs. old and numbers are from playing everyday, Brett/Melky haven’t been playing everyday, so the UZR numbers don’t apply.
Brett has numbers that stack up very well I should think, don’t you; .284/.358/.403?
With the difference in age and numbers, I would say Brett is the better player. Where do you get the “superior CF defence” how many errors has Cameron made this year, Brett doesn’t have any, and he covers much more ground.
Added note…Bretts UZR is 5.5.
Again, “superior CF defence”?
No disrespect but, I think Cash did the right thing in not going after Cameron. I think as Yankee fans we hope both Melky and Brett do as well (or better) the rest of the way.
Is that what happened to AXL haven’t seen him in a week?
Diet coke + mike francesa=AXL. AXL got caught up in acid rain and decomposed into Francesa and diet coke
Yeah, seriously, though, did he just give up? Get deported? Check into the hospital following a massive overdose of crystal meth?
He’ll be back….stupidity doesn’t take many nights off
Maybe he was arrested for being under the influence of stupidity
No i talk to him all the time he said he can’t comment any more. He’s assuming he was banned because someone made a personal attack at him so he had to defend himself.
He’s assuming he was banned because someone made a personal attack at him so he had to defend himself.
Meh, maybe people wouldn’t attack him personally if he didn’t constantly make himself the center of the conversation all the time with his “Oh, I was right, I called it, I’m the smart one, I’m persecuted” riff.
Couldn’t have happened to a better guy, he’s got a tired act. He gets what he deserves, I don’t like watching the guy comment, I think it’s embarrassing.
/bruney’d
IETC.
Wait I’m confused didn’t you just ask if that’s what happened to Axl?
Haha, I didn’t even see that. Good pickup
right meaning, was he banned for personal attacks or was he banned for having strong opinions that most dont agree with.
He earned himself a timeout with some over-the-top homophobic comments. It’s temporary though.
ahhhh i see.
It was going to be temporary until he attempted to flood our mail queue with spam. Now, he can consider it permanent.
Three homers at Citi tonight…bandbox.
Erin Andrews in rare form tonight. God, what I would do.
Tommie- cant find the comment about PG in 2010 if Evans is drafted, but i came to a conclusion that you may not need one. Wilson Chandler is working on his ball handling inorder to start at the 2 in 2009, so if he can improve enough you would have Evans, Lebron and Chandler ass ballhandlers thus negating the need for a true PG in the starting lineup.
But im getting ahead of myself.
Yes, you are.
We’ll need a PG, but frankly, if we have a core in 2010 of LeBron, Bosh, Chandler, Gallinari, and Evans, available PG’s will be bending over backwards to play for us. Chris Duhon would take the veteran minimum to keep caddying for those scorers.
I could average 15 assists a night with that lineup.
Haha I think Ass Ballhandlers will be my fantasy football team name, thanks dude.
Seems pretty tame for you pat.
I try to keep it real,
for the children.
Pat luh’ da kids.
This kid Ott has some dirty dirty movement on the FB.