Aug
28

Report: Angels on the verge of landing Kazmir

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MLB.com’s Lyle Spencer is reporting that the Angels are on the verge of acquiring Scott Kazmir for two minor leaguers. Pitcher Alexander Torres and third baseman Matthew Sweeney would head to Tampa. Kazmir is under contract through the 2011 season. He’ll make $8 million next and $12 million in 2011, and the Angels will hold a $13.5 million option or a $2 million buyout for the 2012 season. Reportedly, Kazmir will work out of the pen for the Angels.

This trade confuses me. The Rays are just three games out in the Wild Card and are under no impression to throw in the towel or make this trade now. Perhaps, they are wary of Kazmir’s elbow. Jon Heyman claims it’s about the money. No matter what, though, the October picture could be radically altered by this acquisition. The Angels have long had the Yanks’ number, and this move gives them another left-handed weapon for their pitching staff.

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  • Dela G

    Mo, please dont let this happen

    thanks,

    Dela G

  • jsbrendog

    trade for him yourself cash! make it happen!11!111!1!!

    • Mattingly’s Love Child

      +1

  • Senor A. Boy

    Also, doesn’t this make our chances of acquiring Carl Crawford after this year much tougher?

    • Doug

      think it might be easier. basically admitting here they can’t compete short-term

      • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

        Yet, according to the BP Playoff Odds, they’re not out of it yet. I’m sure Tampa’s SABR-minded front office is well aware of that fact. Something else must be going on here.

        • Jim Lane

          I’m listening to Mad Dog radio and the guest host has been talking about how Kazmir’s work ethic to get back on the field this year was less than stellar. I don’t know how he knows this or if he is credible, but it could be some sort of reasoning. They are taking an opportunity to get rid of a player they don’t want.

      • http://www.twitter.com/wahbjo01 Jordan

        Which is ridiculous. They’re not WS champs this year, but they’re right up in competition again next year.

  • JM

    He has a 5.92 ERA, although he DOES have ace-like potential.

    • JM

      With his 3.92 career ERA.

    • Zack

      considering hes a sub 6 inning pitcher, he will never be an ‘ace’

    • Doug

      has pitched MUCH better of late

  • Zack

    what’s the word on the prospects? legit guys?

    • Johan Iz My Brohan

      Torres is pretty good, I’ve never heard of Sweeney, but his numbers look nice.

    • Doug

      read that neither are surefire guys

  • Free Mike Vick

    i’m actually surprised it took this long…

  • Yankee1010

    This seems crazy. Are the Rays going to plug Sonnanstine or Davis into the rotation?

    They’re not getting a whole lot back in return. Is this a pure salary dump? Why not wait until the offseason when there would likely be a much better market? Why not hold onto Kazmir and make a run at the Wild Card this year? He has seemed to turn it around lately.

    • daniel aka bryce harper

      yea, it doesnt quite make sense. couldnt they get something better than that for kazmir during the offseason? there not really out of it, and hes significantly better than Sonnanstine or davis.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      It’s gotta be because they think Davis is close.

      • Yankee1010

        I guess, but I’ve read some so-so reports on Davis lately.

        Plus, wouldn’t you figure that they could get just as much, if not more, for him in the offseason?

        • Zack

          maybe, but hes been better than he was earlier so maybe they’re protecting against him blowing up again or more elbow soreness and risk getting less back.

  • Mattingly’s Love Child

    Why did no one make a claim on him? If I’m the Orioles and I need pitching like whoa, I definitely take the chance here. Or if I’m the Twins, needing pitching due to crazy injuries, I drop a claim.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Eh, Cano made it through waivers, and in terms of talent, ability, and affordability, he’s definitely >>>>>>>>> Kazmir.

      I think there’s really just not a lot of teams that can take on money. If you’re the Orioles, sure, you need him, but you probably can’t afford him, and he may be money down the drain since you’re not going to be good until his contract is up anyway.

      • Zack

        Exactly. By the time the O’s are going to be a 85+ win team Kazmir is going to need a new contract. Teams usually trade off 11m pitchers when they suck, not add them

  • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

    Kazmir isn’t that good, otherwise Tampa wouldn’t have gotten him for Victor “Wild Thing” Zambrano.

    • daniel aka bryce harper

      IETC

  • http://www.twitter.com/wahbjo01 Jordan

    Will Carroll reporting Kazmir to work out of pen for Angels…

    • Doug

      a $10M set-up man?

      • http://www.twitter.com/wahbjo01 Jordan

        B.J. Ryan II?

        • Doug

          but at least he started as a closer. maybe fuentes is hurt. he has been hit around recently. actually more like very wild.

          • Zack

            What? for August: 8G, 7IP, 5 h, 2ER, 1BB, 2K

            • Doug

              didn’t have #s handy, but heard on BBTN (I think) that he’s been shaky. Then last nite (maybe the nite before), he hit 2 batters in a row before getting out of a jam

              • Zack

                BBTN, that explains it

    • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

      So they let K-Rod go to the Mets for a gazillion bucks and acquire Kazmir to be a high-priced reliever?

      And: In a case of contrafactual history, if the infamous Kazmir-Zambrano trade is never made, would K-Rod then have signed with the Rays?

  • Tampa Yankee

    Per Heyman:

    The Los Angeles Angels are closing in on a deal for Tampa Bay Rays lefthander Scott Kazmir, SI.com has confirmed.

    MLB.com first reported news of the impending trade. The Rays reportedly will get two prospects from the Angels, pitcher Alexander Torres and third baseman Matthew Sweeney.

    The Rays want to save the money on Kazmir’s contract and could replace him in the rotation with prospect Wade Davis or Andy Sonnanstine.

    Kazmir is 8-7 this season with a 5.92 ERA in 20 starts. He’s on the books for $12 million.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....index.html

    • Tampa Yankee

      I figured they’d either trade Kaz or CC. They would have owed $35M + to Kaz, CC, Burrell and Pena next year with big arb raises to Upton, Garza, Bartlett and Zobrist. Its essentially a salary dump.

    • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

      So it’s money. Everything else I’ve already reported.

  • jsbrendog

    damn being in the same division as them. we could use him.

    he is def >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mitre/gaudin/penny

    and would be a serviceable 5th nxt yr or something

    • Zack

      yeah but you dont pay 11m to a serviceable 5th starter who doesnt go 6IP

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Yes, but we could literally have like 20 Mitres, Gaudins, and Pennys for what the Angels are going to have to pay Scott Kazmir over the next two years.

      • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

        Isn’t that the Red Sox strategy of having TEH DEPTH!!!

  • Mike HC

    This is not good news. Not good news at all.

  • Zack

    ’3:43pm: Marc Topkin reports that Kazmir remains in the Rays clubhouse. He hasn’t been told anything about a trade and actually thought the writers who asked him about it were kidding.’
    -MLBTR

    wow that sucks

  • GG

    3:43pm (MLBTR time aka central time): Marc Topkin reports that Kazmir remains in the Rays clubhouse. He hasn’t been told anything about a trade and actually thought the writers who asked him about it were kidding.

    Maybe it’s not that close

  • Quikksand

    Just chalk up another reason why I don’t wanna see the Angels in the playoffs.

  • http://twitter.com/Hopjake Jake H

    Jorge Arangure of ESPN says that the deal is done.

  • Jim Lane

    CC > Lackey
    Burnett > Santana
    Pettitte > Kazmir

    I’ll take my chances regardless of whether Kazmir is traded or not.

    • Zack

      Santana isnt their #2. Weaver would be starting game 2, but hes been horrible in July/August after a great start

      • Jim Lane

        Good call. I’ll still take my chances.

      • Jim Lane

        Although Santana is coming around after a horrible 1st half. Essentially his spring training was the 1st half of the year. He could be dangerous come playoff time.

        • Zack

          Although he did shut out TB, his last 3 starts were against Bal, Tor, Oak. Tor has an average offense, Bal lower, and Oak is just horrible. So I still want to see more

    • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

      Correct. The only team that scares me is Detroit because there pitching could really kill you in a short series.

  • jsbrendog

    i ain’t scurred.

    i hope we face the angels cause we will sweep them.

    not only will we sweep them but it will give me a reason to say

    “Chqwned”

    one last time.

    • King of Fruitless Hypotheticals

      i think yo ure rubbing of fon me…quit it! thats nasty! go rub it on something else…

  • Rey22

    Well…mlb.com dropped the link..

  • http://www.twitter.com/wahbjo01 Jordan

    Brent Gambill reports via twitter “Got word the Rays Scott Kazmir trade to the Angels report is inaccurate. No deal is imminent.”

  • Doug

    Done deal: Angels acquired LHP Scott Kazmir from the Rays for 3B Matt Sweeney and P Alex Torres.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    MLB.com says the deal fell through.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb

    • Free Mike Vick

      lol…

  • http://www.twitter.com/wahbjo01 Jordan

    Now Joel Sherman reporting deal is done and Kazmir is indeed an Angel.

  • http://www.twitter.com/wahbjo01 Jordan

    I’m assuming Brent Gambill is not Sherman’s unnamed source.

  • will

    I’d seriously consider making a deal, provided that we only have to give up marginal prospects…

    2010 Rotation

    CC
    AJ
    Kaz
    Joba
    Phil

    That’s pretty awesome!!!

    • JobaWockeeZ

      Except the Yanks wouldn’t have a chance to put in a claim even if the deal didn’t go through…

  • Reggie C.

    i guess this means the Rays have freed up money to extend Crawford at leas another season. thats what i glean anyways…

    If its gone thru indeed, Angels just got better.

    btw. KAZMIR > coke

    • Goldmember

      Yeah but he is owed way more than Coke is owed over the next couple of years.

      Zito might be >>>>> than Coke/Mitre/Gaudin, that doesn’t mean he’s a good pickup.

  • Dillon

    How does Kazmir clear waivers? Why didn’t we get him?

    • Dela G

      have you seen his salary?

      he is making too much for the next 3 years to be worth it

  • Tony

    Kazmir has been bad this season. They aren’t really losing anything this year (based on what he has contributed) and the money can be used elsewhere in the future.

  • j

    damn nice move by the angels…

  • http://www.twitter.com/wahbjo01 Jordan

    Now reports out of Tampa say deal is getting done. Just a matter of time.

  • Accent Shallow

    This is completely appropriate. He kills the Yankees, the Angels kill the Yankees. Perhaps this will serve as a reverse jinx?

  • Henry

    Why do I have a feeling that if the Yankees wouldve tried y
    to trade for him, we wouldve had to have given up someone like Ajax or mcallister at the least. And for victor Martinez we wouldve had to have given up Jesus? Whether or not Tampa is in our division or not.

  • http://www.twitter.com/wahbjo01 Jordan

    I submitted this tip in the tip box to the right about 15 min ago. I’m sure one of the guys will get it up soon for discussion.