Report: Angels on the verge of landing Kazmir
ByMLB.com’s Lyle Spencer is reporting that the Angels are on the verge of acquiring Scott Kazmir for two minor leaguers. Pitcher Alexander Torres and third baseman Matthew Sweeney would head to Tampa. Kazmir is under contract through the 2011 season. He’ll make $8 million next and $12 million in 2011, and the Angels will hold a $13.5 million option or a $2 million buyout for the 2012 season. Reportedly, Kazmir will work out of the pen for the Angels.
This trade confuses me. The Rays are just three games out in the Wild Card and are under no impression to throw in the towel or make this trade now. Perhaps, they are wary of Kazmir’s elbow. Jon Heyman claims it’s about the money. No matter what, though, the October picture could be radically altered by this acquisition. The Angels have long had the Yanks’ number, and this move gives them another left-handed weapon for their pitching staff.
Mo, please dont let this happen
thanks,
Dela G
trade for him yourself cash! make it happen!11!111!1!!
+1
Also, doesn’t this make our chances of acquiring Carl Crawford after this year much tougher?
think it might be easier. basically admitting here they can’t compete short-term
Yet, according to the BP Playoff Odds, they’re not out of it yet. I’m sure Tampa’s SABR-minded front office is well aware of that fact. Something else must be going on here.
I’m listening to Mad Dog radio and the guest host has been talking about how Kazmir’s work ethic to get back on the field this year was less than stellar. I don’t know how he knows this or if he is credible, but it could be some sort of reasoning. They are taking an opportunity to get rid of a player they don’t want.
Which is ridiculous. They’re not WS champs this year, but they’re right up in competition again next year.
He has a 5.92 ERA, although he DOES have ace-like potential.
With his 3.92 career ERA.
considering hes a sub 6 inning pitcher, he will never be an ‘ace’
has pitched MUCH better of late
what’s the word on the prospects? legit guys?
Torres is pretty good, I’ve never heard of Sweeney, but his numbers look nice.
read that neither are surefire guys
i’m actually surprised it took this long…
This seems crazy. Are the Rays going to plug Sonnanstine or Davis into the rotation?
They’re not getting a whole lot back in return. Is this a pure salary dump? Why not wait until the offseason when there would likely be a much better market? Why not hold onto Kazmir and make a run at the Wild Card this year? He has seemed to turn it around lately.
yea, it doesnt quite make sense. couldnt they get something better than that for kazmir during the offseason? there not really out of it, and hes significantly better than Sonnanstine or davis.
It’s gotta be because they think Davis is close.
I guess, but I’ve read some so-so reports on Davis lately.
Plus, wouldn’t you figure that they could get just as much, if not more, for him in the offseason?
maybe, but hes been better than he was earlier so maybe they’re protecting against him blowing up again or more elbow soreness and risk getting less back.
Why did no one make a claim on him? If I’m the Orioles and I need pitching like whoa, I definitely take the chance here. Or if I’m the Twins, needing pitching due to crazy injuries, I drop a claim.
Eh, Cano made it through waivers, and in terms of talent, ability, and affordability, he’s definitely >>>>>>>>> Kazmir.
I think there’s really just not a lot of teams that can take on money. If you’re the Orioles, sure, you need him, but you probably can’t afford him, and he may be money down the drain since you’re not going to be good until his contract is up anyway.
Exactly. By the time the O’s are going to be a 85+ win team Kazmir is going to need a new contract. Teams usually trade off 11m pitchers when they suck, not add them
Kazmir isn’t that good, otherwise Tampa wouldn’t have gotten him for Victor “Wild Thing” Zambrano.
IETC
Will Carroll reporting Kazmir to work out of pen for Angels…
a $10M set-up man?
B.J. Ryan II?
but at least he started as a closer. maybe fuentes is hurt. he has been hit around recently. actually more like very wild.
What? for August: 8G, 7IP, 5 h, 2ER, 1BB, 2K
didn’t have #s handy, but heard on BBTN (I think) that he’s been shaky. Then last nite (maybe the nite before), he hit 2 batters in a row before getting out of a jam
BBTN, that explains it
So they let K-Rod go to the Mets for a gazillion bucks and acquire Kazmir to be a high-priced reliever?
And: In a case of contrafactual history, if the infamous Kazmir-Zambrano trade is never made, would K-Rod then have signed with the Rays?
Per Heyman:
The Los Angeles Angels are closing in on a deal for Tampa Bay Rays lefthander Scott Kazmir, SI.com has confirmed.
MLB.com first reported news of the impending trade. The Rays reportedly will get two prospects from the Angels, pitcher Alexander Torres and third baseman Matthew Sweeney.
The Rays want to save the money on Kazmir’s contract and could replace him in the rotation with prospect Wade Davis or Andy Sonnanstine.
Kazmir is 8-7 this season with a 5.92 ERA in 20 starts. He’s on the books for $12 million.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....index.html
I figured they’d either trade Kaz or CC. They would have owed $35M + to Kaz, CC, Burrell and Pena next year with big arb raises to Upton, Garza, Bartlett and Zobrist. Its essentially a salary dump.
So it’s money. Everything else I’ve already reported.
damn being in the same division as them. we could use him.
he is def >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mitre/gaudin/penny
and would be a serviceable 5th nxt yr or something
yeah but you dont pay 11m to a serviceable 5th starter who doesnt go 6IP
Yes, but we could literally have like 20 Mitres, Gaudins, and Pennys for what the Angels are going to have to pay Scott Kazmir over the next two years.
Isn’t that the Red Sox strategy of having TEH DEPTH!!!
This is not good news. Not good news at all.
‘3:43pm: Marc Topkin reports that Kazmir remains in the Rays clubhouse. He hasn’t been told anything about a trade and actually thought the writers who asked him about it were kidding.’
-MLBTR
wow that sucks
3:43pm (MLBTR time aka central time): Marc Topkin reports that Kazmir remains in the Rays clubhouse. He hasn’t been told anything about a trade and actually thought the writers who asked him about it were kidding.
Maybe it’s not that close
Just chalk up another reason why I don’t wanna see the Angels in the playoffs.
Jorge Arangure of ESPN says that the deal is done.
CC > Lackey
Burnett > Santana
Pettitte > Kazmir
I’ll take my chances regardless of whether Kazmir is traded or not.
Santana isnt their #2. Weaver would be starting game 2, but hes been horrible in July/August after a great start
Good call. I’ll still take my chances.
Although Santana is coming around after a horrible 1st half. Essentially his spring training was the 1st half of the year. He could be dangerous come playoff time.
Although he did shut out TB, his last 3 starts were against Bal, Tor, Oak. Tor has an average offense, Bal lower, and Oak is just horrible. So I still want to see more
Correct. The only team that scares me is Detroit because there pitching could really kill you in a short series.
i ain’t scurred.
i hope we face the angels cause we will sweep them.
not only will we sweep them but it will give me a reason to say
“Chqwned”
one last time.
i think yo ure rubbing of fon me…quit it! thats nasty! go rub it on something else…
Well…mlb.com dropped the link..
Brent Gambill reports via twitter “Got word the Rays Scott Kazmir trade to the Angels report is inaccurate. No deal is imminent.”
Done deal: Angels acquired LHP Scott Kazmir from the Rays for 3B Matt Sweeney and P Alex Torres.
MLB.com says the deal fell through.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb
lol…
Now Joel Sherman reporting deal is done and Kazmir is indeed an Angel.
I’m assuming Brent Gambill is not Sherman’s unnamed source.
I’d seriously consider making a deal, provided that we only have to give up marginal prospects…
2010 Rotation
CC
AJ
Kaz
Joba
Phil
That’s pretty awesome!!!
Except the Yanks wouldn’t have a chance to put in a claim even if the deal didn’t go through…
i guess this means the Rays have freed up money to extend Crawford at leas another season. thats what i glean anyways…
If its gone thru indeed, Angels just got better.
btw. KAZMIR > coke
Yeah but he is owed way more than Coke is owed over the next couple of years.
Zito might be >>>>> than Coke/Mitre/Gaudin, that doesn’t mean he’s a good pickup.
How does Kazmir clear waivers? Why didn’t we get him?
have you seen his salary?
he is making too much for the next 3 years to be worth it
Kazmir has been bad this season. They aren’t really losing anything this year (based on what he has contributed) and the money can be used elsewhere in the future.
damn nice move by the angels…
Now reports out of Tampa say deal is getting done. Just a matter of time.
This is completely appropriate. He kills the Yankees, the Angels kill the Yankees. Perhaps this will serve as a reverse jinx?
Why do I have a feeling that if the Yankees wouldve tried y
to trade for him, we wouldve had to have given up someone like Ajax or mcallister at the least. And for victor Martinez we wouldve had to have given up Jesus? Whether or not Tampa is in our division or not.