Teixeira, Yanks take another series

Game 121 Spillover Thread
Yanks fill us in on obvious Joba plan

At one point during the Yanks’ 3-2 win over the A’s on Wednesday night, I found myself becoming fairly irate at Joe Girardi. Alfredo Aceves had just danced his way through the sixth inning, giving up a solo home run to Jack Cust, and with the Yanks up 3-1, it was a perfect time to get Phil Hughes in the game for two innings.

Girardi, however, had other plans. Aceves came back out for his third inning of work, and he got the first two outs on strike outs. Three straight singles brought the A’s to within a run. Out went Aceves and in came a different Phil. Mr. Coke retired Ryan Sweeney, and the Yanks held that 3-2.

In the eighth, Hughes made his appearance. That sacred eighth inning apparently is the only one Hughes, three months’ removed from his job as a starting pitcher, can handle. Unsurprisingly, Hughes was a little rusty. He hadn’t pitched since August 14, and he had thrown just 5.2 innings this entire month. With a day off tomorrow, he should have gone multiple innings. Instead, he went walk, single, double play, fly out. A whopping 18 pitches later, Hughes was out of the 8th and out of the game. Mariano Rivera recorded the final three outs, and all was right in the world.

As gripes go, mine concerning Hughes is rather minor. The Yanks are 31 games over .500 with the best record in baseball. The worst outcome this weekend would leave the team with a 3.5-game lead in the AL East while the best could extend them to 10.5. They are in the driver’s seat. But still, I can’t help but worry about Hughes’ future. He’s a starting pitcher, and he should be given the innings this year that will allow him to excel next. The Yankees have different plans, and I’ll just have to live with that.

Meanwhile, as to the rest of the game, it was another quick affair. This one took two hours and 39 minutes. It started with Chad Gaudin, and he was OK. He made it through just 4.1 innings due to both his pitch count and his inability to stay out of trouble. While he gave up just one hit, he walked five and struck out five. He left the game with the bases loaded following a Robbie Cano error.

Offensively, this one was about the top of the lineup and Mark Teixiera. Johnny Damon, Derek Jeter and Mark Teixeira went a combined 5 for 12 with three runs scored. Teixeira hit a two-run shot in the fourth and was responsible for all three of the Yankee RBIs. The rest of the lineup went 1 for 20 with a walk.

With their win, the Yanks wrapped up a very successful 5-2 West Coast trip. They’re 14-4 on the month of August. They’re en route to Boston with a two-game winning streak under their belts and a rosy outlook indeed for their day off.

Game 121 Spillover Thread
Yanks fill us in on obvious Joba plan
  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    Technically the road trip isn’t over, but 5-2 on the dreaded Water Closet is nothing to complain about.

    • http://www.facebook.com/dougchu Doug

      what you did there
      I see it

    • Makavelli

      Clever…so if that’s the west coast…then what shall we call boston? lol

      • Jack

        Big pile of poo?

    • Bryan

      Does Joe Girardi forget that he has Brian Bruney out in the pen or does he not fully trust him because the 7th inning seemed like a perfect spot for him. He hadn’t pitched since Friday and he’s had 4 straight scoreless outings covering 5 IP. Instead he pushes Aceves out for a 3rd inning and needed Coke to get out of the innning. He’s starting to turn into Joe Torre the way he manages the bullpen and only sticking with who he trusts.

  • http://www.richardiurilli.com/ Richard Iurilli

    I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’l sign up for 5-2 on a west coast trip every time.

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

      +42

    • Salty Buggah

      Me too.

  • BigBlueAL

    Im surprised Girardi let Hughes face Cust. At least Hughes as been promoted from his ROOGY role.

  • acb

    i thought for sure girardi was gonna go for Mo for a 4 out save

  • http://www.facebook.com/dougchu Doug
    • Salty Buggah

      I wanna be doing that after the Bahston series

      • PinstripesForeverDougie

        Ditto, Salty!

        /the Universe’d

  • jim p

    Hughes. Very inexplicable. They say in public they plan to make him a starter. So how’s he get innings next year, if he doesn’t get them this year?

    Doesn’t make sense. Can’t conceive of any hidden plan they might have, unless it’s to groom him to set-up/replace Mo down the road. Or unless his arm is a little hinky.

    • Drew

      I think your asking, “how is he going to get innings next year?”
      Uh, he will throw a ball while starting games and consequently, he will “get innings.”

    • Chris

      As they’ve shown with Joba, they look at career high for innings when determining an innings limit (I’m sure that there is some adjustment applied the longer in the past that high water mark was). The only way that Hughes would have significantly increased his innings limit for 2010 is if he were never moved to the bullpen at all. Now that he’s in the pen, it doesn’t matter how many innings he throws before the end of the year, because he’ll have the same innings limit next year no matter what.

      • jim p

        Thanks. That would explain their logic, if they go by career.

        But I thought that V effect business is a year to year calculation, isn’t it?

        • Chris

          No, it’s generally based off career innings.

  • crawdaddie

    Winter ball for Hughes.

    • A.D.

      hoping that’s in the plan for him

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        Whether he does or does not pitch winter ball, though, it would be nice to see him get more than one inning at a time, simply to prevent him from not pitching enough THIS YEAR and getting rusty.

  • Drew

    Man, 5-2. In Seattle I got greedy but, all things considered, 5-2 is mad good.

    Off days suck but if that’s what it takes to get back on east coast time, I’ll take it. Can’t wait for Boston. Hopefully AP keeps the shit goin’.

  • EB

    This obsession will hughes’ innings has got to stop. He has thrown 146 IP in the past. 110 IP or so this year with half coming out of the pen is a similar load when you consider all innings are not created equal. I dont see how they would shut down Phil at 150-160 IP next year, its absurd, the Verducci rule only makes mention of career highs. Usually love your analysis but im getting tired of people using the Verducci rule to suggest 30 IP progression every year, randomly invalidating the very premise of Verdduci’s argument, CAREER HIGHS, whether that be 1,2 or 7 years ago.

    • mustang

      “This obsession will hughes’ innings has got to stop.”

      The obsession with Hughes ( as a starter this year) has got to stop.

      LOL

    • Jeffrey

      Thats true. I think innings out of the bullpen are more important and more valuable. They have shown he has what it takes to pitch in high pressure situations. For him to have a great curveball right out of the pen most times has impressed me when it takes many other starters like Burnett a couple innings to get control of theirs or sometimes they don’t.

      • jsbrendog

        I think innings out of the bullpen are more important and more valuable.

        oh man.

      • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

        How come a one run game in the 8th is more high stress than a one run game in the 5th? The game is much more secure come the later innings.

        • Chris

          Because in the 5th inning, your team is more likely to score runs before the end of the game. Basically, the difference between the best and worst outcomes in the 5th inning is smaller than the difference between the best and worst outcomes in the 8th inning.

          • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

            But at the same time, in the 8th, the opposing team has fewer at bats in which to score.

            • Chris

              True, so each of those at bats is more important.

      • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

        I think innings out of the bullpen are more important and more valuable.

        ::head explodes::

        • Chris

          That’s actually true. Innings out of the pen are more important and more valuable. That’s the whole idea behind leverage index.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            And leverage index is probably the single most dubious and argued about sabermetric stat.

            You know how we have bitch sessions constantly around here about the validity of UZR? LI makes UZR look like the First Amendment to the Constitution: unquestionably settled law.

            • Jeffrey

              I don’t know enough about LI, but I do know it can in no way quantify the psychological effects of a team knowing they are down by 3 or more runs late in a game. Knowing you only have 6 or 9 out to tie or win the game makes it tough. The Yankees have the advantage when a team has to face Hughes and Mo in the 8th and 9th.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                Which means that pitching in the 8th inning is more pressure packed than pitching in the 5th inning.

                What it does NOT mean is that pitching in the 8th is more “valuable” or “important” than pitching in the 5th. The two innings are equally valuable and important for victory. One inning may be harder, but harder and more important are not the same thing.

        • Jeffrey

          We know Hughes can start. Now we know Hughes can pitch well out of the bullpen. So then we know he can be successful in any situation as a starter. At that point its a matter of effectively mixing pitches.

          • whozat

            Which, as a reliever, he is not learning to do. He is also not learning to command his lesser secondary pitches, which he will need to really be a good starter.

            He is also not pitching very much, limiting his endurance going forward.

            If he’s going to be in the pen, he should be used as a “relief ace”, coming in whenever the game is on the line and throwing 40-50 pitches. Instead, Joe has used him as a setup guy, always trying to make sure he’s available tomorrow as well as today, and thus only using him sparingly for an inning here or there.

  • PinstripesForeverDougie

    I got feeling we’ll spilt the first two and have an epic rubber game on dreaded Sunday Night Baseball with CC and Beckett going at it. Possible Cy Young implications could be altered with that start. It’s interesting does anyone else think CC has a chance at the cy young? With Halliday and Greinke falling off considerably, CC only has Verlander and Beckett standing between him and the award. Personally, I think the favorite is Verlander and it will be if we can mess up Beckett again for the 2nd time this year.

    Oh, and I think we will win 2 out of three to ensure a comfortable 8 game lead in the loss column.

    • Jersey

      Considering the front-runners all have 8-9 starts still to go, anything could happen. IMO, the guys with a real shot still include (in no order):

      CC
      Verlander
      Beckett
      Halladay
      Greinke
      Felix

      Any one of these guys puts together a dominant stretch run, and I think it could be theirs. Of course, the voters include several idiots, so what do I know.

      • Bo

        Greinke wont get enough W’s. Same with Hernandez. This award will go down to Beckett, Verlander and Sabathia.

        • Chris

          Greinke and Hernandez are clearly the two best pitchers this year. I hope the voters don’t screw this up and give it to Beckett or Sabathia.

          • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

            They will.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              They’ll probably give it to Washburn.

          • Jersey

            I agree. I think I’d group them:

            Greinke + Hernandez

            Verlander + Halladay

            Sabathia + Beckett + Jackson

            Everybody else

            I think it would be tough to argue if any of those top four were to win it.

            • Andy In Sunny Daytona

              I’m going to blow your mind.

              MO.

              BOOM, that just happened.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                Hmm… no.

                • Andy In Sunny Daytona

                  Yeah…..I know.

  • http://www.kelts.tk Tony Kelts

    The Yankees magic number is now 36. A sweep in fenway knocks it down to 30. The Yankees need to bring brooms to boston. Go Yankees !!!

  • LiveFromNewYork

    I read somewhere that they are being careful with Hughes, still learning how to treat the SP-reliever-SP phenoms. I think it’s about injury. My understanding is that they have a plan and have pretty much figured out how to execute it. I don’t think it’s being left up to Girardi from game to game or inning to inning. I think it’s an organizational decision.

    They might be making decisions behind the scenes to see how far Ace can go…maybe answer the best way to use him as well by experimenting a bit…he starts putting people on…does he recover or blow up? Then there’s Bruney, Robertson, Coke. How to use everyone enough but not too much.

    Do I think they completely know what they’re doing? No. Bullpen management is an art form and when you have young, talented starting pitchers in there it complicates matters. Do I hope they know what they’re doing? Yes.

    I try to avoid nitpicking most BP decisions (unless you’re Joe Torre bringing in Scott Proctor for the 112th game in a row). But I do hope to Mo they know what they’re doing.

    • Jeffrey

      It seem like they have it mostly figured out and have done a pretty good job this year. Its easy to go from starter to reliever, but to have a guy go back to starting from relieving during a season is asking a lot like they did with Aceves. Also could be why Joba had issues last year. That’s why they have to handle Gaudin carefully even though he has started most of the year.

      The start of the year was tricky within the bullpen, then Bruney got hurt, but they got past that and settled the pen. It will be interesting to see who emerges down the stretch and if there are any surprises among September call ups.

      • jsbrendog

        there won’t be any surprises at least with who is called up because you can only call up people on the 40 man roster and we know who is on that

        • Chris

          They could (theoretically) add AJax or someone else. Wang and Nady will be moved to the 60day DL on August 31 to give some flexibility on the post season roster.

          • Jeffrey

            A-Jax would be perfect to add. Melky needs more time off and a little challenge in CF. Not to mention having speedy guys to come off the bench has its advantages.

        • Jeffrey

          I don’t think we really know what Anthony Claggett, Wilkin De La Rosa, Michael Dunn, Christian Garcia, or Mark Melancon are really capable of or which of these guys will get called up. The Yankees could still make roster moves to get people on the 40-man in order to call someone up. Zach Kroenke is not currently on the 40-man and I’d like to see what he can offer the team. I dont know if Wang is on the 60 day DL but the Yankees website says he is only on the 15. The same page says Kennedy isn’t even on the DL, he should be on the 60-day. That frees up 2 spots. Does Miranda really need to be on the 40-man roster. We have Tex, Swisher, Hinske, and Duncan who can play first. Might be nice to see Russo on the 40-man. The more guys who can give regulars days off down the stretch the better.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            I think Claggett and Cash are the two most likely guys to get whacked if we decide we want to add Nova, Z-Mac, AJax, or Kroenke to the 40 man to give one or two of them a cup of coffee.

            All four kids have shown enough to make us consider it, and those are the 4 kids most likely to get a 40-man spot in the winter anyway. The only other candidate is possibly Whelan.

            Claggett has flamed out pretty epically, and Cash is cannon fodder.

  • mustang

    “The Yankees have different plans, and I’ll just have to live with that.”

    WHEN?

  • Quikksand

    Yankees keep rolling! I love it.

    GO YANKEES!!!!!!!!!

  • Bob Stone

    Ben said in this post:

    “The worst outcome this weekend would leave the team with a 3.5-game lead in the AL East while the best could extend them to 10.5.”

    I think the correct numbers are 4 and 10.

    • The Lodge

      Boston v. Toronto tonight – I believe was factored into that statement

      • Tampa Yankee

        It’s nice to rebound these last two games and go into Boston on a high note.

        Given how Andy, AJ and CC pitched in the last Sox series and given that we do not face Lester taking 2 out 3 and possibly a sweep is not out of the realm of possibility. He have to jump on Penny and Tazawa early and often.

      • Bob Stone

        You’re right. My Bad. Sorry Ben for questioning your wisdom.

        • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

          I’ll forgive you. Eventually.

          • Bob Stone

            Thank you sir . . . I think. LOL

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            I’ll forgive you. Eventually.

            But first you have to walk uptown to the Bronx and get me the breastmilk of a Cambodian immigrant.

        • Klemy

          Don’t feel bad, I was thinking the same thing at first. It’s not our fault if Ben was a step ahead. I blame our parents…

  • http://twitter.com/Hopjake Jake H

    I would like to see Hughes pitch more. HE isn’t going to be a BP guy so they need to get his innings up. I do think that he will get some innings down the stretch plus playoffs.

  • The Lodge

    This graph is an awesome sight:
    http://www.pennant-race.com/american_league_eastern_division

    I’d like to see those top two lines diverge a little bit more over the weekend.

  • Kenny F

    This is your blog and you can write what you want. For the most part, I enjoy what I read. However, the Yankees are 31 games over .500, playing pretty dominant baseball, and complaining about the way Hughes is being used or the way the lineups are set up are, well, nit-picking. Hughes will be a starter for the Yankees, but not in 2009. Let’s all accept it and move on.

    • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

      Just wondering if you read this sentence that I wrote in this post:
      “As gripes go, mine concerning Hughes is rather minor.”

      I basically admitted what you already said.

      • Bo

        They’ll accept it in the playoffs when Hughes comes into every single close game and shuts the door.

    • Makavelli

      I don’t think the site would be as successful with thread’s like “the yankees are playing great and won another series tonight…have a good day” lol

      You need to nit-pick. That’s the whole point of blogs and message boards. The heirarchy of needs!!! Once you’ve established self actualization and satisfaction…that’s it! Always strive to be better!

      lol

      • Bob Stone

        ietcvm

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        Well said, Makavelli.

        It’s wisdom like that that allowed you to write your masterpiece, “The Prince”.

        (Of course, that doesn’t excuse your horrible LP “The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory”, but I guess you can’t win ’em all…)

  • Makavelli

    We’ve won our games but they haven’t been with as much gusto as they have been. Which is great…
    But as bad as Boston looks…they always seem to be able to keep themselves into it. They beat the bag out of Halladay last night…and are now .500 against him in his career I believe…which is irrelevant but still pretty good.
    They’re on a 2 game win streak as well…against perhaps a better ball club. The day off does help us though.

    Personally, I feel the Penny game is our best one clearly. Burnett used to be lights out against the Red Sox until he put on Pinstripes. His last start against them was incredible but the 3 before that were utterly terrible. Tazawa is one of those new pitchers we may have trouble with for no reason and not be able to explain it. Sabathia and Beckett will be something else to top it all off. Beckett is coming off his worst start since facing the Yankees I believe at Fenway towards the beginning of the season.

    • Jeffrey

      Maybe the charge that A-rod put into Tazawa in the late innings of that marathon game will make him nervous enough. I expect the team to win 2-3, a sweep is only icing on the cake.

    • Klemy

      We hit Tazawa pretty hard a few times in those innings. He looked like a deer caught in the headlights for a bit. I’m hoping for that to occur again.

  • emac2

    what?

    You want the rusty guy to come into the game with runners on base because he needs more innings?

    I will admit I wanted him to come in to start the 7th but I would feel stupid complaining about Girardi’s use of the pen with the results he is getting.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      You want the rusty guy to come into the game with runners on base because he needs more innings?

      Yes. You know how you shake off rust? By pitching.

  • Hova

    Obviously Ace is not the same pitcher he was two months ago. Its possible he’s still going through shoulder fatigue and soreness, so I don’t understand why Hughes continues to get such little work.

    I would like to see Phil take some innings away from Ace for the rest of the regular season. That way it gives Aceves a chance to rest his shoulder some more and be ready to gun hitters down in the playoffs.

  • steve s

    It is nit-picking but Girardi needs to have a shorter leash on Aceves who seems to me to lose it very fast once he loses it (and pitching him more than 2 innings at a time seems to be problematic as well). Also, someone should let Gaudin know he needs to lose that attitude he showed when Girardi came to pull him in the 5th; to Girardi’s credit there was a shot of Girardi seemingly talking to him in the dugout about it afterwards. I did love the shots of Reggie’s reactions that YES focused on late in the game; it would have been funny to see the ump run him for arguing balls and strikes (even if he was in civilian clothes).

    • jsbrendog

      i agree. i thought gaudin did a great job and def earned himself another start. only 1 hit isn’t going to happen all the time but he averages a k per inning and will hopefully get hsi control down.but his attitude, at least how it seemed to joe schmoe (me) sitting ony my couch cursing 10 pm start times was out of line. he rolle dhis eyes and was like kinda being a douche nozzle.

      • Makavelli

        In all fairness, not only is Oakland a pitchers park…but Gaudin should be comfortable there since he started there and was successful there with Oakland a few years ago…

        He was shaky to me. The walks are what scare me. If you can’t be confident or have control of your stuff in a giant park in Oakland…how are you going to be in Yankee Stadium??

        Pettitte didn’t have confidence at the new Yankee Stadium at the beginning and suffered because of it…but quickly gained some and has been successful ever since he stopped thinking about it

        • jsbrendog

          i watched the first 6 innings so i saw him pitch for the duration and yes, he did look shaky. But at the same time his stuff had good movement and looked good and 1 hit 5 strikeouts is a confidence booster. he goes out and does nothign different except attack the zone mroe and work on hsi control. his start was very joba like when joba has an off day (i know he will never be as talented or anywhere near as good justs ayin, it did)

          Given the fact that he has had 3 appearances, 2 of them scoreless, and he has had success pitching in the al before, and he is only 26 and control can be learned.

          • jsbrendog

            i ended that fragment with a period without finishing my thought haha oops

            and control ca be learned i feel he has for now at least pitched himself into sustained status as one of the yanks starters for the rest of the year with the ptoential to pitch himself into a role with the team next year.

          • Tampa Yankee

            “justs ayin”

            Annnnnnd, everybody drink!

            • jsbrendog

              well played

          • Makavelli

            his start was very joba like when joba has an off day

            Definitely see that…well said.

        • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

          Pettitte is also not as good as he once was and was generally pitching against really good hitting teams in the new stadium at first. The stadium was a nice “mini-excuse” for Pettitte but the teams he was pitching against also factored into his getting slapped around at home.

    • Makavelli

      Aceves is fairly new to the majors and is cracking the top 10 for innings pitched for relievers this year already…

  • Bo

    Everyone that wants Hughes to start games in Sept and getting innings and glide back into the set up role should take heed of Aceves. Who hasnt been the same since his spot start. And now gets lit up like a pinball machine.

    • A.D.

      Yeah he has a ERA of 7.00 since that spot start, but its been an odd mixed bag of clunkers and good performances instead of general suckitude. Figure the ERA of ~2.00 was probably not maintainable, so hopefully just a bit of a rough patch.

      I would prefer them limiting Aceves to 2 inning stints max so he doesn’t get completely Torre’d by the playoffs, especially on days when the pen is fairly rested.

    • Makavelli

      The only difference is Hughes >>>>> Aceves

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        And the only other difference is none of us interested in putting Hughes in the rotation plan on just throwing him in there without stretching him out first.

        Aceves was spot-started with zero stretching period. That’s likely what caused his problem.

        We don’t plan on being that dumb with Aceves. So:

        Bo: 1
        Red Herring: 0

  • Tom T

    anyone else get the feeling that A-Rod isn’t in a slump, nor is he washed up, but his hip is preventing him from turning on anything and he’s going to suck for the rest of 2009?

    • Annie

      Yes, absolutely. He is definitely not playing at 100% this year and it shows.

  • Annie

    I have to ask, and pardon my ignorance: why is everyone talking about moving Hughes back to the starting rotation? He obviously excels as a reliever, at least from what we’ve seen, and not all great relief pitchers can be great starters. Why fix it if it ain’t broke?

    • Jersey

      Hoo boy.

      • jsbrendog

        just don’t.

        woo sah. deep breaths

    • pete

      he’s young and has shown that he can be effective as a starter, and could get much better

    • Tampa Yankee

      “not all great relief pitchers can be great starters”

      Yes, but all great starters can be great relievers, see Joba, see Feliz in Texas, these guys come up as RP because of innings limits and dominate w/ their stuff. Hughes is also more valuable as a SP then RP… its science.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      That Burnett guy has struggled sometimes in the rotation. Maybe we should move him to the bullpen.

    • Esteban

      I think at this point it’s not prudent to turn Hughes back into a starter. But people want him to be a starter, in general, because starters are MUCH more valuable than relievers and that Hughes has the ability to be an effective starter.

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

      not all great relief pitchers can be great starters

      Not to get all Francesa on everyone but Phil Hughes is a starting pitcher disguised as a reliever for ’09.

    • Annie

      OK, I’m totally willing to believe that the Yankees know what they’re doing with Hughes. I’m not fighting it… just curious. =)

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Why fix it if it ain’t broke?

      Because we have a larger problem: The starting rotation.

      If I have a wooden stool that is really comfortable, that’s awesome. But if my house needs a new wooden support beam to keep from collapsing, you’re damn straight I’m going to disassemble my awesome wooden stool to harvest the parts to repair my house.

  • jsbrendog

    can we get some love for gaudin? the dude’s only 26 and from what flaherty was saying eiland is helping him with keeping his hand above the ball and his slider last night had much more bite and he had 5 ks. He has good stuff and if he can get his control in line then he could be a very good 5th starter (or so it would seem)

    • Doug

      yeah, his stuff is very good. great movement. that’s why he’s got a K/9 over 9. just has to learn to harness it more.

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

      I really didn’t think he was that young. He debuted when he was 20 w/the Rays so he’s been around for a long time.

      • jsbrendog

        i think there should be a cashman appreciation thread. allow me to demonstrate:

        -I mean the guy didnt trade for santana because he had a plan.

        -plan came to fruition when he got cc.

        -He got burnett, who has been rather good (and much better than lowe, who some wanted instead).

        -He lobbied hard and convinced hal to sign tex when he fell into their lap

        -traded nothing for hinske and got the pirates to pay for him (and hinske has done more in the month or so he has been in pinstripes than he did all yr in pitt)

        -traded mostly nothing for jerry hairston jr, who has also hit well and fielded basically every position since he came over

        -while people may hate sergio mitre, this offseason he was just a garbage singing coming back form tj under suspension for supplements. if cashman hadnt made that garbage signing kei igawa would be pictching i the big leagues so hate mtire or not, the singing helped.

        -he traded nothing for chad gaudin who has come in and had 2 out of 3 good performances and shown via those he can start or relieve

        am i missing anything?

        • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

          Traded next to nothing for Nick Swisher.

        • Jeffrey

          It seems like Cashman and the scouting department are pretty good at finding the diamonds in the rough. Bruney was a good pick up. They are attempting a similar thing with Albaladejo (I just want him on the team to hear Francessa mess up his name). Maybe they can make a decent starter or reliever out of Gaudin.

        • Makavelli

          I don’t think it’s fair to base Cashman’s decisions on signing Burnett and Sabathia or Teixeira (for that matter) and say it was a good signing already…just as I wouldn’t think it would be fair to say they were bad decisions if they didn’t work out in the first year of their contracts.

          In order to figure out whether they were good moves…you would have to see the production through out the entire contract (as well as Pennants, World Series Titles, etc. won)…

          That being said, Carl Pavano was a very bad decision. lol

  • Makavelli

    To quote MLB Network yesterday:
    “The Yankees are the best all around team in baseball. They’re just too good. Their acquisitions in the off season have paid off handsomly…their rotation is one of the best in the game, their offense IS the best in the game…and the bullpen has solidified itself with Hughes as a bridge to the uber-warrior Mariano Rivera, whom anybody would still want closing out games for them.”

    Note: This is obviously not verbatim, I ad-libbed a little obviously lol

    • jsbrendog

      i was gonna say, statistically isn’t anaheim’s offense the best?

      • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

        Yanks are 2nd in BA and R, 1st in OBP/SLG/OPS/HR. Angels are 1st in runs and BA, second in OBP, 4th in SLG, 2nd in OPS.

        • jsbrendog

          word em up

          • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

            While we’re on the Angels–can their PYTHAG correction finally come? They played about 12 games over it last year and they’re seven games over it this year.

            • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

              I shouldn’t speak so loudly–the Yankees are six games over theirs.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                I believe the Angels are something like 700 billion games over their Pythag for the past decade, give or take a game or two.

                That team is the luckiest group of bastards around.

        • Makavelli

          Angels are also 26th in the majors in pitching ERA…

          • JohnnyC

            Yes, but Mike Sciosia is a genius! He’s won…oh, what…one championship…uhh…yeah.

          • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

            Well we are talking about the offense so…

            • EB

              Small-ball! Sciosia manufactures runs!

        • Zack

          but they lead the league in going 1st-to-3rd ;)

  • Jeffrey

    Aceves is a win stealer. Could Gaudin have gotten that final out in the 5th? Maybe, but we’ll never know. Aceves has 8 wins coming out of the bullpen, more than Hughes, Wang and Mitre combined.

    Aceves has been inconsistent lately, but he hasn’t really cost the Yankees any games. Yesterday it was a case of Gaudin gives up a hit or double the game is likely 3-3 then who knows what happens. Aceves gets the groundout, inning over. He gave up the 2 subsequent runs, one on a mistake. It doesn’t matter if he gave them up, he still got the job done when it mattered and ultimately helped the team win the game.

  • mryankee

    Aceves has sucked lately-why not have Aceves pitch the 6-DROB THE 7 Phil the 8th and mo the 9th-and by the way AROD sucks lately what a waste of money