Yankees acquire Chad Gaudin
ByVia the YES broadcast (Carig confirms), the Yanks acquired Chad Gaudin from the Padres for a player to be named later. Gaudin figures to compete with Sergio Mitre for the fifth starter spot, if not assume it outright. He had a 5.13 ERA in 20 games (19 starts) with San Diego, but his FIP is a much prettier 3.68. Amazingly, Gaudin is only 26 and still has another year of team control left. The PTBNL might be fairly significant (as in not lower level filler).
I’ve been a Gaudin fan since he was with Oakland, so I approve.
Update (10:17pm): Joel Sherman says the Yanks owe Gaudin $650,000 the rest of the year, but tack on another $260,000 to the league for luxury tax.
Update (10:38pm): T-Kep says the plan is for Gaudin to work out of the bullpen, but you have to assume the clock is ticking on Mitre.
nice. the guy’s not great, but he’ll give us more depth and he might be better than mitre
He’s gonna have to shave that squirrel off his chin now: http://waiversharks.com/ramble.....gaudin.jpg
Yeah, nice to have either as #5 or long man. Good pickup.
I don’t if Kay said it on the broadcast, its not official to me until I see it posted on RAB.
Solid pickup, I guess.
Can’t complain.
I would think he goes right into the rotation.
Doubt it, just some competition for Mitre.
mitri isn’t exactly competition
not bad…more shit to throw at the wall
he’s actually got good stuff and he’s only 26, around a 9 k/9 and a hit per inning. he walks too many guys though
yea but still (and dont let facts get in the way
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Mitre is a goner. It was fun while it lasted.
not really…
Yeah, not at all. Yet.
Chad Gaudin’s *tRA is 4.53 this year. Yovani Gallardo and Clayton Kershaw are each at 4.46; Randy Wolf and Jair Jurrjens are at 4.56 and 4.57, respectively.
what the hell is tRA? so this is a good thing, right?
http://www.statcorner.com/glossary.html
Take it how you will, but I’m showing that his numbers are relative to some of the better National League pitchers this year.
like that and the FIP
Cashman is the new Theo
his FIP is sitting pretty at 3.68
I don’t particularly like the numbers, but I think this will end up being a great move.
he has either been really solid to excellent or awful in looking at his outings. the era is inflated cause he has given up 5 or more runs in 6 outings.
according to the Elias rankings Gaudin is type B as a RP though i dont think he is FA eligible.
3.68 FIP, 19.3 LD%, 1.5 WAR
Certainly helps with the limiting of Joba’s innings.
Bingo!
I like him better than Bronson Arroya
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Fatcessa’s pronunciation
how significant are we talking?? Mcallister significant?
could we be sending nova back to SD?
That’d be a ridiculous overpay.
This guy isn’t Tim Hudson , who would be worthy rental for a playoff run.
i would really hope not. i like nova a lot, he’s just hit a bump in the road
i didnt say i would like it, but it would classify as significant unlike these igawa fantasies people are throwing out there.
those igawa fantasies were supposed to be jokes, i assume you know
for some of you, i know, others not so sure. lol.
the funny thing about that is that today Cash said that a lot of NL teams liked Igawa.
Maybe Igawa is the PTBNL … (we can only wish).
Can’t be.
No no no, not THAT significant. Maybe someone like Mike Dunn or Wilkins DeLaRosa.
would igawa get it done?
San Deigo actually claimed Igawa from waivers a couple years ago. haha
god i wish we let them have him
that’s pretty significant to me…
how about Igawa?
i wouldnt mind dunn but wilkins does seem a little much.
yea but Dunn has a chance to be better than Cokie
Except for the fact that Girardi has a man-crush on Coke.
not if cant learn to stop walking people, but he does strike out plenty as well.
thats why I said “chance.” He’d be up here right now if he stopped walking everyone.
Yeah … let S. D. have Igawa as the PTBNL.
)I remember a couple of years backs when it was suggested San Diego might be the only ML environment in which Igawa could succeed, because it’s so hard to hit HRs there. Sadly, I don’t think Kei could keep the ball in Petco either.)
Just kidding of course. S. D. is not taking Kei Igawa for Gaudin. Mike’s probably right; likely they’ll choose someone like DeLaRosa or Dunn.
I’m worried this is a stupid question and I’m just not thinking of something… But why would Dunn or WDLR be a PTBNL? Why wouldn’t they just make the deal if it’s one of those guys and announce who it actually is, instead of PTBNL?
not necessarily. it could be the yanks offered them a choice among a couple and they havent decided yet.
Yeah. I just usually think “DL” or “post-draft eligibility” when I see “PTBNL.” To make the deal and say “well you just decide later on, no rush” just seems funky to me so I look for other reasons. But yeah, probably no big reason for it.
well think of the derosa deal where they got something up front and picked a player from the list to complete it. here the padres save the money now and get a player later. with any luck its just an edwar/albie type, but doubtful.
Yeah… I get the concept, thanks.
It could be something like: if he sucks, you get to pick from these three players. If he’s good, you get to pick from these three.
do we hope he sucks so he costs less? j/k.
Yeah… Again, that has just always seemed weird to me. Just seems strange to make a deal in which the package going to one party is contingent on the performance, post-transaction, of the package going to the other party. I’ll just have to get over it I guess. My therapist will hear about this.
What do people know about Duscherer? Is he pitching in the minors again? I heard he missed a start a while back. Still interested in him.
Rather have Tim Hudson…
Ya, he wouldn’t come as cheap though.
Coming off surgery, at least we know Gaudin can go out there and pitch.
Not a bad pickup.
Hope the PTBNL is nobody.
nice, now we have cc, aj, joba, petitte, mitre, gaudin, and russ ortiz. If we get lincecum and greinke, then we’ll ALMOST have as much depth as the red sox
When you walk the #9 hitter (Nick Green) with an 8 run lead the game should be stopped and on a big screen should be a video of you driving back to AAA.
A PTBNL would be either 1) an injured player, 2) a recent draftee, or 3) a list of players, agreed that it will be one of them, but not known who yet, right?
agreed. doesnt have to be a recent draftee though. could be someone who was drafted last year but hasnt been signed for 12 months i believe.
Chris Garcia? Betances? Cervelli?
This guy was on the free agent scrap heap early in the season after getting released by the cubbies. I cant see the Yankees giving up anything significant. The Pads were prob happy to just save the $$$$ this year.
It can’t be too significant a player if the Yankees are paying the rest of what’s owed to him.
T-Kep says plan is for him to start in bullpen.
http://twitter.com/TylerKepner/status/3172957873
I can’t see him actually staying in the bullpen so that Mitre can continue to freckle the bowl in the rotation. I give it one more Mitre start and that’s it.
Good pickup though. Obviously, it depends on who they gave up, but Gaudin is no slouch.
PTBNL maybe Ivan Nova?
nooooo!!!!
wow gaudin wife is sexyyyy
link to photo?
http://www.wagrankings.com/syndal-gorden/
Apparently Gaudin and Swish are pretty tight.
Could Swisher lead to a Yankee renaissance? He has buddies everywhere? Remember that picture with him and CC?
I imagine Syndal is too.
I just love this pickup. Love it.
After looking at some of his stats, I think he is actually a pretty good pitcher. The only problem I see is lefties hit him hard, while he righties cannot hit him.
Gaudin “feels at home in Padres rotation”, oh wait…
i’m very excited for this pick up
Great pickup, no matter what they decide to do with him (bullpen or rotation) he is going to add depth which is something the yanks need…any idea on who the PTBNL is?
If anyone did, they’d have posted it.
hopefully we find out soooon.
This is better than Garland or anyone else. He may actually contribute cheaply and do so again in ‘10. Not like the other guys thought to be available.
wait, does this mean gaudin cleared waivers? if not, color me confused
They don’t announce who clears waivers since 100’s of players clear waivers. Complete 25 man rosters are put on waivers.
OK, I am not worried about the PTBNL. Pete Abe says this deal was in the works since befer the deadline. That means Cash couldn’t have gone nuts and sent anyone good (or good enough to freak me out).
Another Cashman scrub. You can throw all of the odd ball stats you want out there, but in the end he’s still 4-10 with a 5+ ERA, now with his 6th team at age 26.
SCRUB.
Yeah, I hate understanding why things are the way they are!
Is he going to be great? No. Is it possible that he will be better than Mitre? Yes. Could he soak up some innings down the stretch? Maybe. Did he cost much? No.
So why are you bitching?
Not bitching, just stating fact. He’s going to get clobbered, you’ll see.
You know, if you’d said “oh, his decent tRA is at least partially due to a significant drop in his HR/FB rate that is probably due to Petco, and could regress badly in Yankee Stadium,” I’d have agreed with you. But that’s an “odd ball stat” that actually “examines what’s going on” and allowed me to “make an informed prediction.”
I bet you would have lauded a Washburn acquisition, though, hm? Look at that sparkling ERA!
Not quite. Going back to last season when there were rumors that the Yanks might get Washburn, I wrote on my blog that I didn’t want him.
If this guy is so good, why has he been with now 7 teams in 7 seasons?
Why has he been traded for the likes of Kevin Cash and the great Josh Donaldson?
This guy is the 2009 version of Sid Ponson, Scott Erickson, Donovan Osborn, LaToya Hawkins and all of the other pitching losers Cashman has brought here.
That’s some great analysis!! way to get really in depth with underlying causes and considering all the things that can skew a pitchers ERA that are completely out of his control … also .. wins! great great great stat for analysing a pitcher, since its COMPLETELY within the pitcher’s control whether he gets a W or not
…look gaudin isn’t halladay, but he’s a better pitcher than traditional (deeply inferior) stats suggest
His girlfriend is hot! Good pick up for that alone!
That changes everything!
His numbers look bad on the surface but consider this
His FIP is only a 3.68, which is slightly better than CC (3.71) and Johan (3.77) and only slightly worse than Jair Jurjens (3.63).
*FIP stands for Fielder Independent Pitching and tries to scale a league-adjusted ERA by removing bad/great defense behind the pitcher.
Additionally, fangraphs caculates that his value thus far in 2009 has been $6.9 million. That is equal to Ryan Dempster and Mike Pelfrey and slightly below J.A. Happ ($7.0). Joba is valued thus far at $5.7 million
I’m not saying this means that he will be a great pitcher… but the Yankees are only responsible for the prorated portion of the league minimum salary for him. That’s great value.