Saturday Night Open Thread


Remember when the Yankees were 0-8 against the Red Sox? That seems like a lifetime ago, doesn’t it? It’s good to see them beat Boston in every way possible too – slug fests, pitching duels, extra innings, you name it. The magic number is down to a Murcerian one with a week left in the season, and life is good.

Here’s your open thread for the night. The Mets are down in Miami, and you’ve also got the Cards and Rockies on MLB Network. Plus there’s a ton of college football games spread around the various networks. Anything goes, just follow the guidelines and be nice to each other.

Categories : Open Thread


  1. Accent Shallow says:

    What a fantastically pitched game.

    CC is great, Hughes is inhuman, and Mo is Mo.

  2. The Artist says:

    I hope I’m wrong about this, but I have a feeling Bloomberg will pull an Ed Koch and not want to have a parade if the Yanks win, citing budget concerns.

  3. Ban Bud says:

    When was the last time the Yankees acquired a big-money front of the rotation pitcher and had him absolutely live up to every expectation in his first year like Sabathia has? Catfish Hunter?

  4. The Artist says:

    LoHud has the exact same Magic Number pic as RAB, as they have for the past few days. Somebody is either leaking the pics to PA or he’s an avid reader of this blog.

    This is an obvious conspiracy.

  5. Eddy Southwick says:

    why does girardi hate Eric Hinske?

  6. crapulent says:

    I want CC to throw a perfecto in the playoffs. Hallucinate much?

  7. Tank the Frank says:

    I just can’t see CC having a bad game in the playoffs at this rate. The one thing his postseason starts all have in common are walks. 25 postseason innings, 22 walks.

    That’s just so contrary to the CC Sabathia we’re seeing now; totally in command and under control. He could have been a little too amped up in his first few playoff starts, and probably didn’t have enough gas left in the tank anyway. Different story this season. I can’t wait to see him start Game 1.

  8. J says:

    In Damon’s postgame interview he pronounced his first baseman’s name as “Tex-Era” instead of “Tesh-Era”. Am I missing something or did he just pull a boner there?

  9. J says:

    Sure of course. Just wanted to make sure I wasn’t mispronouncing the second coming of donnie baseball.

  10. Bob Stone says:

    Another great aspect of the win today is that the BoSox won’t be the first team to hold a celebration in the new Yankee Stadium.

  11. crapulent says:

    We smashed the can’t beat the Angels in Anaheim notion.
    We smashed the can’t beat the Red Sox (anywhere)
    Now it’s time to smash CC sucks in the playoff and Arod does nothing in October.

    Next year we’re take care of that Nationals thing.

  12. Tank the Frank says:

    You know… we may very well be playing the Twinkies in the playoffs. Nothing about them scares me – especially w/o Morneau – but for the fact that they are really hot right now. I don’t want to go into the playoffs to face a redhot team that we swept the season series from. That just spells bad news.

  13. JobaWockeeZ says:

    I never got to finish a complete Yankee game vs the Red Sox when they won. I’ve seen every game completely when they lsot 8 in a row and only saw a few innings each game they win due to real life stuff.

    So I hope tomorrow, when I can actually watch the game they win and be 9-9 against the Sox after 0-8.

    • Bob Stone says:

      That would be sweet, but not surprising. I was at confidence level 10 when the Yanks were down 8-0 that they would come close to a tie in the season series. It happens every year. Their records against each other over the six years are almost dead even.

  14. ds says:

    Molina is basically a guaranteed out. How many scoring drives is he going to blow before the Yankees replace him with a better offense option. I know his defense is good, but it doesn’t justify the missed opportunities.

  15. I posted this on twitter earlier this evening. It’s pretty interesting.

    Player A: .326/.376/.493/.869, 122OPS+, 17HR/83RBI/322TB.
    Player B: .321/.351/.515/.866, 125OPS+, 23HR/79RBI/318TB.

    Can you guess who these players are?

  16. Sean Serritella says:

    Hey, I posted at Peter Abraham’s site a lot but he’s leaving and I know it won’t be the same. Do you mind if I come here and post my thoughts on things you talk about? It seems you have a lot of people commenting and I like that.

    I read your guidelines for posting as well.

  17. The Artist says:

    Who you guys like in the NL?

    As much as I’d like to face (and beat) Torre’s Dodgers in the WS, I think the Cards are built for October. Two big pitchers, good closer and the best 1-2 punch in the NL.

    Dodgers starting pitching is weak, Phillies have no closer, forget the Rockies.

  18. JMK says:

    From ESPN Boston: “The Red Sox were held to just two hits in a loss to CC Sabathia and the Yankees on Saturday, but Daisuke Matsuzaka looked ready for October, working out of jam after jam and giving up just one run in seven innings.”

    Yeah, Dice-K looks ready for October. Right.

    • whozat says:

      If it had gone the other way, they would have said that CC was beginning his post-season collapse early, as the Sox had him on the ropes all day and just hit into poor luck.

      • Sean Serritella says:

        You know what? I hope the Yankees aren’t peaking too early. I get confused with the way teams play some times. I remember in 2000, I think it was 2000, when they limped to the playoffs and played terribly down the stretch but dominated in the playoffs.

        Then one year they played great at the end of the year and lost in the playoffs.

    • Jersey says:

      ESPN Boston is the Fox News of sports journalism. Just no interest whatsoever in reality.

    • JobaWockeeZ says:

      Not as batshit insane as another doomsday Ken Rosenthal article today.

      The description was like if CC falls in game 1, we can predict the fall of the Yankees or some BS like that. And the article was a nonstory saying how nothing is guaranteed in the playoffs and how the Yankee teams of 2005, 2006, and 2007 and not much different than 2009.

      • Tank the Frank says:

        Great column. We have the best record in baseball for no reason at all, apparantly.

      • Tank the Frank says:

        So far, this is what I’ve seen from the MSM:

        Red Sox – 2nd place team, yet they have no holes or shortcomings whatsoever. Nevermind the fact that they have a losing record on the road, or are 16-2 vs BAL, 11-4 vs TOR, and only eight games over .500 against everyone else.

        Yankees – Best record in baseball. Nothing but articles about ways the Yankees can’t or won’t succeed in the playoffs.

        It seems to me the media’s job has been to over-exaggerate every loss, and then when we have the best record in baseball, write column after column about how the Yankees aren’t as good as they look.

      • Joe D. says:

        The dude is out of his skull. The ’09 Yankees have already surpassed the win total of any of those three Yankee teams and we still have games to play. (2005-95; 2006-97; 2007-94; 2009-99+). That alone indicates this year’s version is a notch better than the ’05-’07 editions.

        More importantly though with regards to the postseason, the “now” Yanks have a pitching staff better built for the postseason than they have in a while. Great K rate, uber-dominant set-up guy, and an unquestioned Game 1-style ace.

        As much as I loved me some wormkillin’ Chien-Ming Wang, post-peak Unit, and solid Moose, none of the three provided what CC does.

        As Mariano-Bridge, Tom Gordon was very good but ’06/’07′s Farnsworth/Proctor stylings were a long, long ways off from Mr. Hughes.

        A few wins in the reg season…I can understand Blowsenthal potentially tossing aside. But Sabathia/Hughes? That’s just sloppy.

        /Choir Preacher’d

      • Brandon says:

        “But if the Yankees go deep into the postseason, it might be due more to inferior first-round competition than actual superiority.”
        So in other words, the Yankees are superior…

  19. nathan says:

    Does RAB and PeteAbe hv any tieups

    the last few “magic number pics” hv been theexact same pictures..


  20. Nels says:

    Wow. This may be one of the most biased articles I’ve ever read. It’s a comparison between the Yanks and the Sox by position written by Lou Merloni,

    “Robinson Cano (.320, 23, 79) vs. Dustin Pedroia (.301, 13, 67)

    You would think that this is an easy decision. Even though I will go with Pedey here, you could make a case for Cano this year. I understand that Dustin is the reigning MVP and is having another “good” year, but have you been following what Cano is doing? He’s batting .320 and has 23 home runs. Those are numbers that you cannot ignore. As for Dustin, I’ve been watching him all year and even though he’s hitting .301, there has been “something” missing this year, and for the longest time I couldn’t figure it out. Then I went back and saw that last year he batted .368 late and close (a stat that represents plate appearances in the seventh inning or later with the team batting tied, ahead by one, or with the tying run on deck). Very impressive, and one of the reasons why he won the AL MVP. This year is a little different story. Pedey is hitting .224 late and close. I’m not getting on him, just stating a fact. If there is one hitter in this lineup who will show up in a big game, its Pedey. That’s why I give the edge to Dustin. Plus, I think that Cano is a dog, and not many second basemen turn a double play better than Dustin Pedroia.”

    So he’s basically saying that while Cano is better, he’s still going with Pedroia anyway?

    To me this is ridiculous:

    “Hideki Matsui (.278, 28, 88) vs. David Ortiz (.237, 26, 91)

    Normally, this wouldn’t even be up for debate, but some may say that this year Matsui has been better. I don’t agree. Big Papi has led all hitters in the AL in home runs since June with 26. I’m not saying that he’s the same hitter he was back in 2006 when he hit 56 homers, but he’s still better than Matsui. There’s this thing called “presence,” and Big Papi has it back. Pitchers fear him again. Did you see Angels closer Brian Fuentes pitch around Papi with two outs and a one-run lead in the ninth inning last week? It started a game-winning rally that included Fuentes fuming over a non-strike call to Nick Green. The reality is is that he should have blamed himself for throwing Papi a 2-0 slider only to follow that up with another one at 3-0. Fuentes wanted no part of David with the game on the line. That alone gives the edge to Ortiz.”

    Someone mentioned this the other night as well, but Ortiz’s OPS is more than 100 points lower than Matusi’s. And how many big hits has Matusi had late in games this year? I can think of his game two eighth inning game tying shots against the Jays, as walk as his walk off shot off the Os right off the top of my head, but obviously there are way more.

    One more thing before I close out this way too long post is just how clear it is that Lou Merloni has no idea what he’s talking about is this sentence:

    “Nick Swisher is having a great year. He is a legit home run threat, especially in cozy Yankee Stadium.”

    Anyone who knows anything knows that Swisher (besides that two HR game recently) cannot hit the ball out of the new YS.

    All right, I’m done.

    • steve (different one) says:

      yes, it’s ridiculous, but imagine if Paul O’Neill wrote the article. wouldn’t you excuse a little pro-Yankee bias?

      Lou Merloni wrote it, i’d take it with a grain of salt.

    • Jersey says:

      Lesson 1: avoid WEEI like the plague.

      Lesson 2: Fear makes people do, say, and write weird things.

    • JobaWockeeZ says:

      WHAT. THE. FUCK.
      “Nick Swisher is having a great year. He is a legit home run threat, especially in cozy Yankee Stadium.”

      This definitely overtakes “sucka got no juice” is terms of batshit insane.

      But this is more than batshit insane. This is extremely retarded, biased and completely batshit insane.

    • Sean Serritella says:

      I don’t understand this comment by Lou Merloni…
      “Plus, I think that Cano is a dog, and not many second basemen turn a double play better than Dustin Pedroia.”

      Have you seen how effortlessly Cano throws the double play? He’ll have his body going one way and then he casually flips the ball across his body for the DB. It’s pretty awesome to watch.

      • For Lack of a More Creative Name.. Alex says:

        Yea he is so smooth in everything he does; his swing, fielding of ground balls, turning of double plays. And he has an awesomely strong arm especially for a second baseman.

      • thurdonpaul says:

        yeah , robbie is incredible with some of those throws, ill be watchin and think, eh, he cant get this guy out, or make that throw and then BAFUCKINWAM he makes a ridiclously hard throw look incredibly easy

    • For Lack of a More Creative Name.. Alex says:

      Wow.. just.. wow. That is insane.

    • The Artist says:

      “I will go with Pedey here”

      After the issues his brother has had, you think he’d find another nickname. Sheesh.

    • Mike Pop says:

      I’m not saying that he’s the same hitter he was back in 2006 when he hit 56 homers, but he’s still better than Matsui.

      Nice research, Lou. Papi hit 54.

    • Mike Pop says:

      The reality is is that he should have blamed himself for throwing Papi a 2-0 slider only to follow that up with another one at 3-0. Fuentes wanted no part of David with the game on the line.

      That alone gives the edge to Ortiz.

      Now that’s funny.

    • Zack says:

      Merloni is a fucking joke, as long as he stays at WEEI and Comcast New England he’ll never be called out and the shit he spreads. So he’ll talk up and suck up to Red Sox fans, and players, and they’ll call it journalism.

  21. The Artist says:

    I swear, the Mets find new ways to screw up every day.

  22. What is a good website to learn how to play the guitard?

  23. GRGOYLDEF@ says:

    Courtesy of The Huffington Post….and it ain’t even close.

  24. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    Unfortunately, I missed what seemed to be an outstanding game. I traveled 2 hours north to Amherst, Massachusetts today and got home just in time to watch Phil Hughes.

    • Bob Stone says:

      you could have listened on the radio to John Sterling if you could stand it for part of the trip and then Red Sox announcers for the remainder of the journey.

      • Pasqua says:

        Three-and-a-half hours of, “You just can’t predict baseball” and variations thereof.

        • Bob Stone says:

          Yeah – I know. I travel from Connecticut to the Boston area at least once a week and spend countless hours listening to WFAN and WEEI (and its affiliates).

        • The Artist says:

          well, that’s just Baseball.

        • The Artist says:

          Baseball isn’t like the other sports, you know. You can’t out-physical the other team like you can in Basketball or Hockey.

          • Pasqua says:

            A couple of weeks ago he went on the “baseball isn’t like the other sports” riff and actually said that baseball is different because in the other sports, “the best teams INVARIABLY WIN!”

            It was so mind-blowingly ignorant, so disturbingly incorrect, that I turned the radio off for 5 minutes to cool off.

            • The Artist says:

              That was true about Football . . maybe 20 years ago. But there are no truly great Football teams anymore, not like the 70′s Steelers, 80′s 49ers or 90′s Cowboys. Since the salary cap and all the rule changes, you can’t build a great, dominant team anymore. Which is what the league wants.

              Even the Pats weren’t a great team by past standards, they were just extremely well coached. It’s one of the reasons I lost interest in Football. I hate parity. I want excellence in sports, not equality.

  25. Didn’t want to use Billy Martin for 1?

  26. Pasqua says:

    So, I’m guessing this passed me by somehow, but was there an online “lottery” for playoff tickets this year? I don’t remember seeing anything. Did the public onsale already (or, ever) take place?

  27. The Artist says:

    Teams That Clinch Early Lose Early, Too

    This doesn’t surprise me, with the short ALDS series a hot team goes in and takes the first game or two from a team that’s shaking off the rust, and before you know it the series is over.

  28. Z says:

    Anyone know where I can find video of the Gardner rundown? It’s not on MLB or ESPN.

  29. Gotta love Joe Torre–three lefties for three outs…

  30. Sean Serritella says:

    My favorite football team is the Dallas Cowboys. Are you sure I’m still allowed here? lol.

  31. Tony says:

    RAB – I love Mercer but I wish you could find a picture with Billy Martin also. Billy Martin was great.

  32. Jack says:

    I love Adrian Clayborn.

  33. Dela G says:

    great win

    great fucking win

    • scooter says:

      Yup…. great fucking win.

      CC has been unreal lately – and Girardi is making sure he’s not racking up big pitch counts

      Speaking of, Tony LaRussa just had Wainwright go 130 pitches tonight (through 8 innings). Cards’ magic number is one.

      I know the Rockies are leading the Wild Card chase, but why the heck would you do that to your #2 starter (behind Carpenter)?

      Cards just went in front 6-3 – so the Braves probably inch closer

  34. Tom Zig says:

    Some ESPN radio show host asked buster olney earlier today if the yanks might clinch too early…is it even possible to clinch too early with at most 6 games left in the season?

  35. Tom Zig says:

    Does anyone else think that the guy from the “I got ripped in 4 weeks” ad looks like Phil Hughes?

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