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Yanks on Kikuchi’s U.S. itinerary

By Benjamin Kabak

yuseikikuchi Yusei Kikuchi is The Next Big Thing to come out of Japan. An 18-year-old prep star, Kikuchi could join Junichi Tazawa as a Japanese player who skips the Nippon Professional Baseball league to come straight to the Majors, and although the Yankees are going to be preoccupied with the Angels over the next 10 days, the team, according to reports, is going to meet with Kikuchi next week.

Via MLBTR, NPB Tracker reports on Kikuchi’s recruitment schedule. This week, he will meet with Japanese teams as his hometown league attempts to convince him not to jump the puddle for the Majors. After meeting with the NPB reps, Kikuchi will meet with the Giants, Mets, Dodgers, Yankees, Rangers, Mariners and Indians.

If Kikuchi leaves Japan, he will be the second big-name pitcher to head straight to the States in two years, and the NPB could be facing a severe young talent drain as more kids look to Major League Baseball for a more international stage and a quicker payday. Patrick Newman at NBP Tracker wonders if the Nippon leagues will look to collude with Kikuchi to ensure that he is drafted by the team of his choice and stays in Japan.

With Kikuchi coverage ramping up, Newman also published a scouting report on the young left-hander. He seems to be a smart kid with a good head on his shoulders, and he throws between 87-96 mph. Generally, his fastball sits low in the zone at around 90. Keep in mind that he is also just 18 and will probably add a bit of velocity as he fills out.

It will be interesting to see how the Kikuchi sweepstakes shake down. As young undrafted kids look across the Pacific, international baseball could be gearing up for a sea change, and the Majors may soon enjoy a stream of young talent from Japan. After the Yanks opted against going after Tazawa last year on the grounds of honoring the NPB draft, it’s intriguing to see them in the mix on Kikuchi. Perhaps they think higher of him than they did of Tazawa.

Feel free to use this as a discussion on the merits of international poaching of young players or use it as your regularly scheduled open thread. Oh, and today is Joe Girardi’s birthday. So a happy 45th to the Yanks’ skipper. You know the drill; play nice.

Posted on Wednesday, October 14th, 2009 at 7:00 pm in Open Thread.

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So everything was going uphill for me–I started my new website (check link), etc. Then I lost my history textbook before last Tuesday’s test and my Odyssey before tomorrow’s inclass essay. FML!!!

Your new blog is now bookmarked. I expect to see great stuff on there, bro. Huzzah, and godspeed. I got your back.

Lol thanks! But it’s a really static website with updates on different calls to action, not a blog. Much to my chagrin I discovered that blogging takes way to much time.

Esteban says:

Progress Americana seems (to me) to be too similar in name to the Center for American Progress.

Drew says:

I thought the same thing when I found AmericaFTW.

 

You know, I hadn’t thought about that. Meh, hopefully we’ll be able to establish our own identity that’ll enable us to be separate and distinct from theirs, of which I am not a fan.

 
 
 
 
 
mustang says:

“Ben
14/10/2009 at 10:19 am Permalink
If he does decide to come over he will be hyped enough that the bidding for him will reach a nice high level. My question is thing…”

Wondering if this was you who comment on the link from MLBTR describing the kid. The writing seems the same.

Was not me. I haven’t commented on MLBTR in a while.

 
 
Johan Iz My Brohan says:

I like this kid more than Tazawa, come to the Yankees Kikuchi!

Drew says:

Poor Tazawa. Talk about being rushed through the minors.

JGS says:

still had more innings than Joba

Drew says:

Innings? Tazawa spent about half a season in America before he got blown up in the Bigs.

whozat says:

did he throw more than Joba’s 88 innings in the minors?

Drew says:
andrew says:

Poor Tazawa Joba. Talk about being rushed through the minors.

fixed

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mustang says:

From what I read it seems like it would be a good investment.

 
Tom Zig says:

Those Joe Morgan ESPN Chats are just full face palms.

 
MikeD says:

…or perhaps the Yankees are annoyed they honored the agreement only to have the Red Sox, Rangers and others ignore it, so this time they plan to participate.

 
JSquared says:

Sounds like he can be a solid pitcher. I would have to think signing Kikuchi or Chapman is the thing to do. I don’t really see any big name pitchers coming up on free agency this year or next year.

Yeah, there’s a few this year, but most of them are injury prone. I think if Kikuchi or Chapman only take 2+ years in the minors, which seems like a decent amount of time, either one that we sign should be ready to be in the bigs soon there after.

JSquared says:

Any Big Name pitchers that the Yankees would want to add*

 
 
Accent Shallow says:

As much as I’d like the Yankees to sign the best amateur talent, I also wouldn’t like to see NPB wither and die. Unfortunately, I’m not sure I see a way to keep the NPB viable if its best amateurs continually defect.

Johan Iz My Brohan says:

Yeah, I can understand an Ichiro/Matsui/etc move to the MLB, but if I lived in Japan, I would be pissed to see the Tazawas, Darvishs, and Kikuchis and the like go over to the US.

andrew says:

I’m not so sure about that. I know baseball isn’t soccer, but I think most Americans are proud when one of our soccer players goes over to Europe and is successful. Didn’t Ichiro become a bigger star in Japan once he came to the US? I don’t know, i’m just wondering.

 
 
 
Jersey says:

“and the NPB could be facing a severe young talent drain as more kids look to Major League Baseball”

Let’s say there’s a continuing influx of Japanese players. For each Japanese player that takes up a slot in MLB, there’s one less slot in MLB for non-Japanese players. I wonder if we’d see a corresponding influx of foreign (including American) players in the NPB? Could be interesting to look at, if someone had the time to put together the data.

 

The Yankee fan in me is happy that my team has the ability to procure top flight talent like Kikuchi and Aroldis Chapman thanks to my team’s financial wherewithal.

The baseball fan in me wants to see some sort of international draft so that the Pirates, Royals, Nationals, and Orioles can get these quality young players, because they need them badly and baseball needs those teams to not suck anymore.

mustang says:
 
Drew says:

Eh. Not many Cubano’s in Pittsburgh.

Seriously, an international draft will do nothing to make Mr. Nutting pay players. Young players don’t make you win. They help you draw hype and then tear you down when you trade them for some cash and more young players.

 
JSquared says:

Agreed. International Draft is a way to go, but how do you rank who goes first, If Nationals get first pick in the Regular Draft, do they also get first pick in the international draft?

Drew says:

Sure. The Yanks can just buy more free agents when they turn 28ish.

 
 
Tom Zig says:

Dayton Moore will still screw things up

 
mustang says:

But Yankee Fan in me always wins this fight. Its up to MLB to change the rules until then Pillage & Plunder.

 
Accent Shallow says:

Semi agree. Expanding the draft to Puerto Rico has been cited as a negative, as now less MLB talent is coming out of there.

(Why? Because teams pulled their academies out, so players have to develop through other avenues.)

While a fair distribution of amateur talent is a good thing, I worry that capping amateur bonuses could lead to more talent going to other sports. In the US, that’d be football/basketball, elsewhere, it may mean soccer or basketball. Or something else entirely.

Tom Zig says:

Jai Alai? Caber tossing?

Johan Iz My Brohan says:

If I ever got the chance to play Jai Alai, I would sooo take that over Baseball, it’s just sooo badass.

 
 
thurdonpaul says:
 
 
 

The human being in me wants to see these (generally poor) kids get whatever the market will bear for their services. I’m not putting the interests of billionaire owners or the misplaced, unreachable concept of ‘competitive balance’ ahead of letting the little guy make a few bucks. I have that right, I’m not going to argue somebody else shouldn’t.

The industries we all work in are not very analogous to professional sports in many, many, many ways. Competitive balance may be meaningless in law, government, industry, etc. but it’s very important in pro sports leagues.

I’m all for letting athletes earn whatever the market will bear when the time is right, but the NBA/NFL/MLB need to ensure some form of competitive balance, and drafts are a large boon in that regard.

Ivan says:

Can you imagine in 03 when Lebron was eligible to get drafted under Baseball rules?

He wouldn’t be a Cav period.

 
Esteban says:

Yea, because the Yankees and Red Sox sign every single international free agent. You know, like Miguel Sano, who signed with the Yankees Red Sox Twins. Wait, huh, what happened? When’s the last time the Yankees or Red Sox or whoever in the top 5 in payroll signed the best/most expensive Latin American IFA?

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn.....mons_peter
By organization (2009)
Padres $5.8 million
Athletics $5.0M
Yankees $4.8M
Mariners $4.6M
White Sox $4.1M
Reds $3.8M
Rangers $3.5M
Giants $3.4M
Red Sox $3.4M
Pirates $2.9M

The fact that wealthy teams do not always sign every single big ticket IFA does not mean that wealthy teams do not have an advantage when it comes to signing big ticket IFAs. They do.

Moreover, the IFA market as presently constituted is not specifically what I’m arguing against when calling for an international draft. It’s only one portion of it. All of what I’m attempting to do is have a comprehensive set of mechanisms for funneling the best young players to the worst teams (and allow them to afford to keep them) in the interest of competitive balance.

 
 
 
 
Ivan says:

Totally agree.

Would you agree on a Salary Cap.

You’re a heartless fuck. I knew there was something I liked about you.

 
 
27 this year says:

but an international draft including Japan would probably lead to the NPB dissolving and major issues between the MLB and Japan, ones that would be hard to resolve.

 
 
ROBTEN says:

Does this mark a shift in Japan-US baseball relations?

When Tazawa was available, Cashman said:

“I’m old school — there has been an understanding,” said Yankees GM Brian Cashman to the New York Times. “There’s been a reason that Japanese amateurs haven’t been signed in the past, so we consider him hands-off.”

Does this mean that the Yankees (and, generally speaking, MLB) no longer have an “understanding” with NPB?

ROBTEN says:

I am altering the deal. Pray I don’t alter it any further.

/Vader’d

Y’all got strawberry milk on that thing?

/R2D2′d

Scooter says:

“Our radar’s been jammed”
“Raspberry… only one man would dare give me the Raspberry. Lonestar!”
/Dark Helmet’d

What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?

/EmperorPalpatine’d

ROBTEN says:

Something, something, something, dark side…something, something something, complete

/Go for Papa Palpatine’d

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This deal is getting worse all the time!

/Lando’d

 
 
 
 
Rey22 says:

Did anyone see that mlb.com article with the position by position comparison on the Yanks and LAA? Talking about their 2B platoon, they just had to mention “Dustin Pedroia, widely regarded as the best AL 2B.” Aren’t they forgetting about a certain Robinson Cano?

Well, Pedroia’s better at going bald, being short, bitching to umps, and throwing his groundskeeper crew under the bus, maybe those were their primary criteria for judging who is “best”.

steve (different one) says:

how is this groundskeeper thing not a bigger story??

aside from being the single weakest excuse in the history of professional sports, it’s beyond obnoxious and the implications on Pedroia’s character are not very good.

Because it’s a story about groundskeepers. THAT’S why it’s not a bigger story.

Yeah, Pedroia’s an asshole, but he slandered a group of people that basically nobody gives a crap about.

steve (different one) says:

i guess so. i would have thought that the scrappy blue collar Red Sox who play for little more than the love of the game and meal money would stand in solidarity with their working class brethren. i was wrong.

 

You’re right, but he also slammed their beloved Fenway Park, which is akin to a cathedral in that town.

Did he slam the cathedral? Or did he slam the janitors of said cathedral?

“Worst infield in Baseball”

I guess you could take that both ways. Lousy field and/or poorly maintained.

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Jack says:

http://djpostl.files.wordpress.....ppysox.jpg

I’m late to the party, but I felt the need to post this.

 
 

It’s probably because he’s “lazy” or he’s “unclutch.”
Doesn’t help when a good portion of the fanbase believes in all that crap.

 
27 this year says:

I like how for all of them it says Edge: Yankees or Angels or even but for Jeter it says Edge: Jeter.

 
 
iYankees says:

I think the Sox have opened the floodgates for other teams with the Tazawa deal. Now, the Yankees are simply breaching an agreement that was breached before, so perhaps it’s not as bad the second time around. Maybe that’s why they chose not to pursue Tazawa—they didn’t want to be the first to ignore the previous gentleman’s agreement. Or, it could just be because Tazawa was 22 while Kikuchi is 18.

Drew says:

Good businessmen don’t burn bridges. Sure, Tazawa helped the Sox get knocked out of the playoffs in the ALDS this year, but it will have repercussions for Theo further down the road.

 
 

I like Kikuchi.

Hell, I like all kinds of kuchi.

JMK aka The Overshare says:

What about Kuchi Kuchi Ku?

/about to take out my Nuva Ring

 
 

Doing a livechat on the blog at 7.30 (3 minutes from now, yay for advance notice!)

So come and join or whatnot, because who doesn’t love blatant self promotion?

http://www.puristbleedspinstri.....eries.html

 
Salty Buggah says:

Kikuchi. Kiiicuuchi. I like saying this name.

Koomar, what is that, like, five “o”s or two “u”s?

 
Johan Iz My Brohan says:

Yusei “The Killa” Kikuchi!

 
Drew says:

Imagine the role call in The Stadium:

KEE-KOO-CHEE.. KEE-KOO-CHEE!

Ivan says:

Sounds like a name of a Japanes Porno movie.

 
 
 
 

Tonight’s useless observation gleaned from walking around the streets of Manhattan:

I’m glad I’m not gay, keeping a gay wardrobe looks expensive as shit.

Ivan says:

Well they Say Gay people are the best dress people.

 

Nah, the wardrobe thing wouldn’t bother me one bit. I’m just glad I’m not gay because I don’t like getting fucked in the ass.

Well, there’s that too. I was just commenting on the fact that I passed like three gay men on the street walking up 14th and all of them were dressed immaculately. I like being straight and thus not feeling the need to buy $100 jeans, $200 cashmere sweaters, $300 italian boots, and $400 Louis Vuitton glasses.

I love coochie for lots of reasons, but one nice one is that it’s not that expensive (in one way.) I have to buy nice clothes for my wife… but I can rock cheap shit and she’s happy.

Yeah, women are good like that. And for every one Gay guy who dresses up to the nines to go out clubbing there are probably nine that don’t buy fancy clothes, don’t go to shi-shi restaurants and don’t like clubs. Like any other group of people, most of them don’t fit the stereotype. Half my customers are Gay, and they’re just as diverse as any other group I can think of.

 
 
 
 
 
Ivan says:

Hey Tommie,

Whats your thoughts on the Jets getting Edwards?

I’m very aroused…

Seriously, though, Edwards for Stuckey (who is like a poor man’s Dennis Northcutt at best) and Trusnik (who is a poor man’s Larry Izzo) and two non first round picks is an absolute steal. Slam dunk of a trade.

My only concern is the fact that we’ve given away three picks in next April’s draft between this trade and the Lito Sheppard deal. The good news is, none of them is a first rounder and one of them is guaranteed to be a 5th rounder–no more, no less.

The second pick we sent to Cleveland is a third rounder that could escalate to a 2nd based on PT and junk, and based on how rapidly Braylon is being added into the offense, I’ll assume it does become a third rounder. The pick we sent to Philly for Lito is a 4th that can escalate to a 3rd or 2nd, but Lito’s already missed three games now; I doubt it becomes a 2nd; 3rd is more likely. So, it looks like we’ll have a 1st rounder, 4th rounder, 6th rounder and 7th rounder and that’s it.

We’re probably trading back this April. However, I’ll bet dollars to donuts we flip Kellen Clemens to someone for a 4th rounder (like what the Texans did with Sage Rosenfels last winter).

In fact, we may even trade Clemens to a team that desperately needs a quarterback… (looks in Cleveland’s direction)

Greg P says:

Not positive, but I think Clemens is unrestricted next year.

 
 
 
 
 

OK, we know that he’s Kikuchi, but is he Ki-KLUTCH-i?

 

Left-handed Japs scare me…

Yeah, because they’re all exactly the same…

(rolls eyes)

 

Hideki Irabu was righthanded, if that makes you feel any better.

 

Ehh I don’t like it when people say “Japs.”

I believe it’s a racial slur for them.

Prosecutor: Over Macho Grande?
Witness: No. I don’t think I’ll ever get over Macho Grande. Those wounds run… pretty deep.

 

Jack Woltz: Now you listen to me, you smooth-talking son-of-a-bitch, let me lay it on the line for you and your boss, whoever he is! Johnny Fontane will never get that movie! I don’t care how many dago guinea wop greaseball goombahs come out of the woodwork!
Tom Hagen: I’m German-Irish.
Jack Woltz: Well, let me tell you something, my kraut-mick friend, I’m gonna make so much trouble for you, you won’t know what hit you!

You think your pretty smart, don’t you, Trebek? What with your Dago mustache and greasy hair!

 
 
 

Is that you, Grandma?

 
 
Drew says:
Drew says:
 
 
Charlie says:

87-96 mph? that is a ridiculously huge velocity range.

 

That screams mechanical flaws to me, just like with Chapman.

If you straighten out the flaws/inconsistencies in his delivery, his control should improve as well. But that tells me he’s a project, again like Chapman.

27 this year says:

he is in high school. No high school guy in America isn’t a project

Milbarge: Maybe your dick’s not so dumb.
Fitz-Hume: … It got me through high school.

 
 
 
 

I dunno if anyone’s watching the Rangers, but holy schnikees what a shot by Gaborik.

I can’t find them. Are they on Versus, Spike, the Outdoor Life Network, or SyFy?

http://www.instantrimshot.com

 
Evan says:

Yup, that was pretty awesome. :D

 
 
Sean says:

am i the only one who thinks the yankees need to work on their outfield this offseason?

 
steve (different one) says:

as long as they don’t hire the Red Sox groundscrew to do it, they’ll be fine

 
 
Januz says:

There is a simple reason why the Yankees might go out and sign guys like Kikuchis and Chapman……….. they know a worldwide draft is coming, and the talent pool they had an advantage with (Because of money) will be severely limited. I fully expect between now and next August, the Yankees will really throw their resources into signing as many high levbel prospectss as possible.

Jack says:

There is a simple reason why the Yankees might go out and sign guys like Kikuchis and Chapman………..

The simple reason is that they have ridiculous upside. We haven’t heard or seen any evidence that an international draft is coming.

pat says:

Haha yeah, the whole having good young lefties in the farm system is reason enough to sign them.

 

But Januz has. Januz sees simple events of today and extrapolates out gigantic meaning to them far into the future.

Januz can see through time itself…

http://chrisbheath.files.wordp.....d-logo.jpg

Jack says:

Well, that changes everything.

 
 
Januz says:

There is some evidence of this: Bud Selig talked about it. So did Mark Teixeira (Who is high in the Players Association).

 
 
 

OK, so this afternoon we all found out what the pitching matchips will be for the Yanks-Angels. Yanks are going with a 3 man rotation and Angels 4. So as of now they are as follows (subject to change):

Game 1-Lackey vs Sabathia (Edge Yanks)
Game 2-Saunders vs Burnett (Edge Yanks)
Game 3-Pettitte vs Weaver (big edge Yanks)
Game 4-Sabathia vs Kazmir (Even, if Kaz is healthy)
Game 5-Burnett vs Lackey (Even)
Game 6-Saunders vs Pettitte (Edge Yanks)
Game 7-Weaver vs Sabathia (ginourmous edge Yanks)

I’m sorry, but if the Yanks win Game 1 this could be a quick series. IMO the Yanks have an edge in 5 of the 7 games, and that’s before we even discuss the bullpen, where it gets completely lopsided in favor of the Yanks. The Yanks have done well against Saunders in his career, plus he doesn’t have the profile of the type of pitcher who gives them trouble. He’s a nice, league average Lefty with decent stuff who hasn’t pitched in over 2 weeks. Weaver gets killed by the Yanks, his career ERA facing them is in the mid 6s. Kazmir has always given the Yanks trouble, but I’m wondering if he’s hurt. He usually pitches well against the Sox and got knocked around in Fenway on Sunday. There were reports he was hurt when he was traded, but the Angels went ahead and made the deal anyway. In any case, starting him at home instead of Yankee stadium raises and eyebrow for me.

Yanks in 5.

Jose says:

I still see the Yankees winning in 4. They are a winning machine that will not be stopped.

 
steve (different one) says:

JMO, but you are overrating Kazmir and underrating Weaver.

i also think those who think the series will be over quickly are underrating the Angels’ offense.

i think this is going to be a steel cage match.

i think this is going to be a steel cage match.

LITERALLY.

 
 
 
sly says:

No thanks, I am yet to recover from the nightmare called “IGAWA”.

 
X says:

i cant read that first sentence.

 
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