World Series Game Four Spillover Thread VII

Categories : Game Threads, Playoffs


  1. Brazilian Yankee says:

    Now do your thing Mo.

    The offense really saved Joba and Girardi tonight.

  2. Reggie C. says:


  3. Salty Buggah says:

    Damon with a single and 2 SBs, Teixeira gets on with HBP, and ARod singled in the go-ahead run. (h/t Murti)


    Seriously, no matter what, A-Rod is a “True Yankee” now and no one can EVER deny that

  4. ansky says:

    HIP HIP!!!! someone on here posted earlier that the Yanks would win 7-4….that dude is the maaaaaan!!!

  5. claybeez says:

    Nice job Po, another bonehead running mistake!

  6. Ghost of Scott Brosius says:

    Give this man a plaque in Monument Park.

  7. Justin says:

    Did ARod just earn his stripes?

  8. Mike Pop says:

    Why are the Yankees going to win the World Series?

    Cause we are the balls.

  9. Esteban says:

    The Centaur strikes again

  10. Riddering says:

    This team is all that and a bag of chips.

  11. JobaWockeeZ says:

    It’s not a homer but maybe he’s Mr. November.

  12. baka nakamura says:

    unreal. my wife broke out the defibulator and i live!

  13. DontChaKnow says:

    Kate Hudson owes ARod her back door for that one.

  14. Dave G says:

    3 more outs.

  15. Joe D. says:

    From thread number zero:

    Prediction Time:

    Sabathia 6-2/3 IP, 2 ER, 4 H, 3 BB, 8 K. 108 Pitches. Win.

    Blanton 5-1/3 IP, 6 R (5 ER), 9 H, 2 BB, 3 K. 85 Pitches. Loss.

    Final Score: 7-4, Yanks.

    Mo knows. Oh yes, Mo knows.

  16. AndrewYF says:

    There have been so many awesome moments in this postseason.

  17. DreDog says:

    This team is too good. They are invincible.

  18. Doug says:

    Foolish Phillies, you can’t ice Mo by making home come out to U2.

  19. Accent Shallow says:

    Joba is in line for the most undeserved win ever.

  20. slappy white says:

    I really think Jorge let them throw him out so we could get this over with and I could get some sleep….THANKS JORGE

  21. PsiFighter37 says:

    We got this baby. Tomorrow, time to tee off on Cliff Lee.

  22. Pasqua says:

    That inning was either going to be remembered as the re-birth of Lidge (and the “choke” of A-Rod) or the arrival of A-Rod (and the death of Lidge).

    It was sooooo the arrival.

  23. JGS says:

    Joba will get the win

    that’s just wrong

  24. rbizzler says:


    That was a serious inning. I love how there were no shots of Manuel guffawing in the dugout. And Joe Buck sounded so sad…

  25. Yanks 4 Life says:

    I hope Leche is ok.
    Any word?

  26. crapula says:

    Arod puts the “no to you phillies” in november.

  27. JoeFromBayRidge says:

    Whoever predicted this game 2 or 3 threads ago was ridiculously close thus far….

  28. We shouldn’t have gotten so worked up about Manuel’s comments about Rivera. He’s just so used to watching Lidge that he thinks all closers are garbage. Poor Uncle Charlie.

  29. Bob Stone says:

    It just doesn’t get any more exciting than this. The only thing better than this fantastic level of competition is to see the Yanks win #27.

    You just can’t ask for better baseball than this.

  30. mike c says:


  31. E-ROC says:

    Looks like the Phillies will test Charlie Manuel’s theory.

  32. Evil Empire says:

    THAT’S HOW WE ALWAYS FUCKING DO IT. Who’s surprised? Who doubted that shit was going to happen? I didn’t.

  33. claybeez says:

    2 to go.

  34. Mike Pop says:

    3-1 here we come!

  35. Klemy says:

    Jimmy Rollins: “I meant Yankees in 5.”

  36. mustang says:

    Anyone who jumped off the bandwagon after game 1…. PLEASE STAY OFF.


  37. Jake H says:

    Lidge’s confidence must be shot now too.

  38. theriverdog says:

    seriously, why would some of you ever give up on this team?

  39. Joe D. says:

    Exit light. Enter night. Take my hand, Jimmy Rollins. You’re off to Never-Never land.

  40. Doug says:

    Is it not the height of irony that a fat guy’s last name is “Stairs”

  41. ansky says:

    Once again Joe Buck sounds like his dog just died. One more out.

  42. PsiFighter37 says:

    J-Roll sure has Mo figured out, doesn’t he.

  43. cjc says:

    1 more for 3-1 come on Mo

  44. Esteban says:

    Rollins has figured out how to pop-up against Mo

  45. Yanks 4 Life says:

    Is that the best you got Jimmy?

  46. Jay says:

    Boy Rollins hit the shit out of that one!

  47. JMK aka The Overshare says:

    Alright. Hawaii 5-No is the last batter. RIP Phillies.

  48. paulc says:

    girardi has done fine tonight. joba just left a pitch down the middle. offense came thru…

    • Ghost of Scott Brosius says:

      Disagree. But thank Mo these are the Yankees, and they don’t need competent managing to win.

      • Keanu Reeves says:

        What are you claiming Girardi did wrong?

        • Ghost of Scott Brosius says:

          Only one thing. Mariano should be in for 6 outs there. I did not see that home run coming, and I was hoping Joba would get it done. But he should not have been in, with a one run lead, for any of those hitters. Mariano Rivera is possibly the greatest pitcher ever, and he should be in. The only reason not to use him for more than 3 outs is that you’re leaving some in the tank for tomorrow. This is wrong. This was the pivotal game, the game we needed to win, to win this series. Managing this game with even the slightest consideration for tomorrow’s game, based on the circumstances in this series in terms of the games and the pitching matchups (adv. yanks today, adv. phils tomorrow), was completely wrong.

  49. Ghost of Scott Brosius says:

    Rollins really smacking the ball

  50. JGS says:

    now it’s official

    of the 8 playoff teams, 7 closers now have blown saves

    Mo = deity

  51. Alan says:

    1 out away. Praise be to Mo.

  52. The Only Yankee Fan in Nebraska says:

    Joe Buck sounded like his favorite dog died when he said “take a commanding 3-1 lead”

  53. yankees=warriors says:

    Watch and learn, Lidge, watch and learn.

  54. Yanks 4 Life says:

    Pedro Feliz just saw his statue next to Rocky disappear before his eyes.

  55. Reggie C. says:


    Your win over my G-Men has not gone unpunished!

  56. cjc says:

    well we know headcase Lidge is shot for the rest of the series

  57. AdamParker says:

    lmao… ESPN headline:

    A-Rod again…

  58. Mike Pop says:

    boo-ya baby!

    A.J. v Lee tomorrow? Could be a L but I am so confident.

  59. Opus says:

    “By the way, Brad Lidge told me Tuesday at Media Day that the Phils believed they could pitch effectively to Alex. So far he’s been right. Of course, we haven’t seen Lidge in a game yet.” – Kim Jones in the chat from the other day

  60. JMK aka The Overshare says:

    The Yankees win!

  61. AdamParker says:

    Ball game over! Yankees win!! THHHHHEEEEE Yankees Win!!!

  62. mustang says:

    Thus ended the lesson.

  63. Bushido216 says:

    I can’t wait to see the Philly papers tomorrow… screenshots please!

  64. MikeD says:

    So many sad faces with their ugly red hats. Makes me feel good.

  65. SS says:


  66. Evil Empire says:

    You can’t fuck with us. Mo is the best ever.

  67. Alan says:

    WOO! One win away, boys. Don’t bother letting it come back to the stadium, we can wait to see you until the parade.

  68. NYFan50 says:

    Well that was a great game.

  69. Riddering says:

    We have deities on the Yankees.

    The Phillies try their best but they just can’t steal our fire.

  70. Salty Buggah says:

    Whoops! I guess he (and the rest of the Phasn’t figured out Mo yet…

    WIN! Hell YEA!!!!!!

  71. Accent Shallow says:

    Wow. Infuckingcredible. I love this team.

    And that was the moment Phillies fans have been dreading since June, right?

    Also, I almost hope Lee does his job tomorrow, because I fear for their safety if they win the Series here.

  72. cjc says:

    ah the look of defeat on thier faces sooooooooooooo worth it

  73. Bob Stone says:

    Abso-F&**kin-lutely great. This team is awesome.

  74. E-ROC says:

    8 pitch save. Uh, Charlie Manuel, I don’t think your Phillies can hit Mariano Rivera.

  75. Holy shit what a fucking game! Joe Buck sounds heartbroken. Poor wittle guy. Artie Lange must be loving it.

  76. yankees=warriors says:

    I even believe they’ll get to Lee tomorrow.
    Go AJ~

  77. Joe D. says:






    He’s not here, so had to help out.

  78. Souter Fell says:

    I can almost smell it

  79. charlespoet says:

    Start spreadin’ the news and chillin’ the champagne… 27 is now my favorite number.

  80. ansky says:

    Fuck yeah!!!!

    Charlie Manuel: “we can hit Mariano Rivera”

    immediately after that statement locuts devoured his crops and his liquour turned to blood.

    Moral of the story?…NEVER insult God.

  81. DontChaKnow says:

    1 More baby!!

  82. claybeez says:

    Hell, f’ing yeah! Man, that was some game. Some rollercoaster. Some, Never Say Die!

  83. baka nakamura says:

    hope those philly fans go back and read rollins’ remarks about how they got rivera figured out. fuck off punk!

  84. The Only Yankee Fan in Nebraska says:


    I’ve got a good feeling.

  85. BigBlueAL says:

    Lets see what bullshit ass excuses Manuel and the rest of the Phillies will have now!!

  86. Alex S says:

    if they win the WS tomo when is the victory parade? Wednesday?

  87. Jersey says:

    That’s what, 13 pitches for six outs in the last 24 hours? This Mo guy is gonna have a bright future in baseball.

  88. Marcus says:

    Jimmy Rollins, any comments on your prediction for the Series?

  89. mike c says:


  90. trueblue says:

    I’m glad Mo was able to over come the Phil’s figuring him out. Whewwwwww…

  91. Souter Fell says:

    can joe sound more depressed

  92. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Jimmy Rollins you do mean the Yanks will close it out on your home?

  93. Mike Pop says:

    a-rod was pissed they hit him so many times.

    made them pay.

  94. Yankeefan91 Arod fan says:

    1 more Yanksssss

  95. Evil Empire says:

    “The tenacious at bat of Johnny Damon” … well put, Alex.

    • pete says:

      i LOVE listening to a-rod talk. you can tell he learns new words every couple weeks and tries to drop them into conversation as much as possible

  96. Klemy says:

    “You’re one win away from stop getting drilled.”
    “I hope so.”

  97. Hova says:

    Can we give the MVP award to Brad Lidge? Its so much fun seeing him fail. Love it.

  98. Will says:

    Is Fox finally gonna give Johnny some love?

  99. TLVP says:

    mvp so far?

    Burnett? Mo?

  100. Will says:

    Rosenthal: You’re one win away from not being drilled anymore.
    Confused A-Rod: …Let’s hope so.

    • Yanks21 says:

      Yea..thought AROD answer that perfect..

      The team needs to get his back and hit the ball…only way they are going to get back at the phillies (like they did in the 9th :) )

  101. Dela G says:

    a-rod = god

  102. Yanks21 says:

    Johnny… thanks for everything tonight!

    You really kept your head up after that tough first serious..and you carried us this game!

  103. Count Crapulent says boo to you sir says:

    Phillies in 5? Not so much.
    Phillies in 6? Not so much.

  104. vin says:


    This team is like a Boa Constrictor. Relentless.

  105. Hugh Jassman says:

    Jimmy sure handled Mariano.

    Fucking jackass.

  106. Count Crapulent says boo to you sir says:

    Brad Lidge = true Yankee

  107. Hall and Nokes says:

    Should the Yanks be nice and let this go to six?

  108. Souter Fell says:

    Will Philly set itself on fire if the yanks beat them on their turf?

  109. Yanks 4 Life says:

    Stay classy RAB.
    Being here pitch by pitch with you guys makes the WS that much better.
    See you guys tomorrow night !

  110. MikeD says:

    It was worth the Joba HR because it makes the victory all the much sweeter for the Yankees, and bitter for the Phillies and their fans.

  111. Joker, The says:


  112. Salty Buggah says:

    Haha, A-Rod the hottest topic on Twitter right now.

  113. Tom Zig says:

    remember when the Phillies figured out Mariano Rivera?

    5 outs over 2 days and only 13 pitches thrown

  114. mustang says:

    Can you believe that ESPN is still showing coverage of the NFL?

    I mean come on !!!

  115. JMK aka The Overshare says:

    That asian girl on Fox 5 news has a nice rack.

  116. Count Crapulent says boo to you sir says:

    I officially have a case of the vapors.

  117. JFH says:

    clearly a victory for the phillies because mo had to come out and throw 8 pitches.

  118. bonestock94 says:

    Such fucking brilliance, I’m basically speechless.

  119. JMK aka The Overshare says:

    Damon was so fucking clutch today.

  120. scooter says:

    Just back from my cousin’s – watched the Giants lay a Giant egg… then this. Mo, I love this team.

    Damon unhinged Lidge… then Alex and Jorge come through in the biggest way. No way not to love this – but to quote Howie Rose from 1994, there’s one more hill to climb

  121. PaulF says:

    Joba gets the win. He didn’t deserve it but was anyone else actually really encouraged be what we saw from him? He was throwing gas and looked dominant except for that one pitch.

  122. Count Crapulent says boo to you sir says:

    go to YES for the postgame. Charlie Manuel up at the mike. Cranky bastard.

  123. JMK aka The Overshare says:

    Ozzie Guillen: Phillies in ten!

  124. Pasqua says:

    A moment of silence for Brad Lidge’s career. Again.

  125. Evil Empire says:

    I’m so glad Lidge was put in there … I knew he couldn’t contain the Yankees.

  126. The Only Yankee Fan in Nebraska says:

    Ozzie Guillen called it: Phillies in 10

  127. MikeD says:

    The angry, cranky manager of the Phillies now speaking.

  128. ansky says:

    Pedro is not so Feliz anymore.

  129. Souter Fell says:

    I got tuesday off (gotta love teacher’s schedule), if they win tomorrow night i am getting hammered!

  130. cjc says:

    wow Charlie Manuel is pissed

  131. Count Crapulent says boo to you sir says:

    Does Charlie Manuel have a cohesive thought or a cohesive sentence? He belongs in a home.

  132. Souter Fell says:

    He sounds like a vet describing how he watched his platoon die

  133. Reggie C. says:

    I love Bobby V. He makes sportscenter watchable.

  134. BigBlueAL says:

    I know its already a done deal but would you guys feel better with Gaudin in Game 5 and a rested AJ in Game 6?? Im still a bit worried if Yankees lose Game 5 about Pettitte on short rest in Game 6.

  135. Mike Pop says:

    Kay trying to bait A-Rod into saying something bad.

  136. Will says:

    On ESPN, Bobby V. really upset that the Phils blew it, and then Ravech complains about how many “time outs” they took, regarding the mound trips. Nice, guys. Nice.

    • I’ve never found Bobby V. to be a Yankees-hater, I think you have to give him a little more leeway. Do you guys disagree? I’ve always, post-Mets of course, thought Bobby V. was fine towards the Yankees.

    • Mike Pop says:

      Did Ravech really?


    • gxpanos says:

      Nah, Bobby V just said, “I’m sorry, but it looked like the Phillies let it get out of control, they needed a mound visit to get everything under control before the A-Rod AB.” And the “I’m sorry” seemed to be an apology for criticizing the Phillies, if that makes sense. Bobby’s rough around the edges, but he’s actually been pretty unbiased by ESPN standards.

      • gxpanos says:

        Rough around the edges in the sense that he’s not that good on TV yet. He’s still a little uncomfortable. But youre right about Ravech, screw him.

        • You think? I think he’s pretty good on TV. He’s done it before, and he’s certainly not lacking for insight, confidence or personality.

          • gxpanos says:

            No way, he certainly has insight, and he’s the smartest guy on there. I just think he’s too…smiley? And he talks for longer than he needs, and the transition away from him is always weird as a result.

            Has he done TV before? Or do you mean as a manager? Because I think those are two very different beasts, press conferences as a manager and studio work.

            • I mean he’s done TV before, as a professional, not as a manger. He was definitely on ESPN at some point before this year, after his stint with the Mets. I think he was a Baseball Tonight guy at some point.

              He’s just smarter and more witty than everyone else on ESPN so he stands out and looks weird to you. It’s just that he’s actually good, and is surrounded by horrendous idiocy.

    • Jamie says:

      I would really like someone with a BRAIN to realize that they were doing that because they thought the Phillies were stealing pitches. Like its not that fucking hard to figure it out. . .

      Shit like that drives me nuts. Ravech is by far the biggest fucking red sox homer on that stupid station.

      • larryf says:

        Let’s see. We play 7 months to get here, they may be stealing signs and the announcers are upset about conferences on the mound? Idiots. I hope it upsets whoever is batting as well. When Eiland comes out to the mound-you can read his lips-need to cover up better. I read his lips and he said-hurry up I wanna Hoagie….

    • Riddering says:

      Maybe Lidge should have gotten a trip or five.

  137. ShuutoHeat says:

    So think the stadium is going to be open tomorrow?

  138. Henry Triana says:

    Jeeezzzzz…Charlie Manuel is red as hell.

  139. Z says:

    I have never seen Mo that fired up, EVER!

  140. Jay says:

    Manual is a sour-puss dickwad.

    “I’ve answered that like 10 times in the past two days. Maybe 25 times.” (Talking about Cliff Lee pitching on 3 days rest)

  141. steve (different one) says:

    hey, the yankees had a 3 run lead in the 9th, should Girardi have brought in Hughes?



  142. Doug says:

    Wow. John Kruk basically saying the Yankees out-teamworked the Phils.

  143. Esteban says:

    Sick Sleeveless shirt Johnny

  144. MattG says:

    That was 7 1/2 innings of boring baseball, followed by 1 1/2 innings of thrillation!

    I don’t think it’s all such a big deal, but with the Yankees now needing just one win, I wish they would give the ball to Gaudin tomorrow. Burnett on short rest is just not a good matchup vs Cliff Lee, but Burnett on an extra day’s rest, with Pettitte on regular rest available for setup work, vs Pedro, is very favorable.

    There is really only one way the Yankees don’t win this World Series: they have three bad starts in a row. Throwing the next 3 guys on 3 days rest is one way to court just such a disaster.

    • the 2004 Yankees says:

      hey dude, what’s up?

      • Evil Empire says:

        The 2009 Yankees are not the 2004 Yankees. The 2009 Yankees are going to win a 27th World Series.

        • steve (different one) says:

          that doesn’t mean you willingly concede a game.

          • Evil Empire says:

            Who’s talking about willingly conceding a game? I’m not. I go with the top 3 all on short rest, we’ll win one of those games.

          • MattG says:

            That’s not true. If you’re trailing by 2 in the 6th, do you bring in Mo to close the game? Of course not. At some point, you do concede, because you need to value the next game more than the current game. The question is when do you concede?

            The critical time is now, because, as unlikely as it is (and I started this by saying I don’t think it matters a whole lot), once Burnett takes the mound you run the risk of all 3 of those guys pitching sub-standard baseball. And that’s the only way the Yankees lose this series.

        • MattG says:

          They are…but admit it now–there is some small chance that Burnett, Pettitte and CC all toss up stinkers against a really good hitting team. Now think, if Burnett pitches on 5 days rest instead of 3, with Pettitte behind him on 4 days if needed, against Pedro, in Yankee Stadium–how do they lose that game?

  145. Mike Pop says:

    Damon is jacked. Damn.

  146. gxpanos says:

    Ha, on ESPN Johnny just gave a pseudo shout-out to JoePos.

  147. Doug says:

    Johnny Damon has Rosenthal-itis; what an awkward interview he is.

  148. Sam P. says:

    Holy cow Gammons looks like he’s a skeleton. His nose is purple. Get him some hot tea, stat!

  149. Yanks21 says:

    If we are winning tomorrow.. Mo pitches 2 innings..

  150. Chili Davis says:

    Kruk and Gammons are pathetic in their refusal to give the Yankees credit. Bobby V. says the Phillies’ poor performance isn’t a coincidence, that the Yanks are making them play that way. Fuckin’ right, Bobby.

  151. mantlearod11 says:

    the twins didnt play their game the angels didnt paly their game now the phillies arent playing their game give some credit tho the yanks

  152. Tony says:

    Kruk’s tantrums please me.


    Mystique and Aura, bitches.

  153. aj says:

    Is Melky OK? Did anyone hear what happened?

  154. Mike Pop says:

    We. Got. This.

    Good night.

  155. Ghost of Scott Brosius says:

    Ravech: Lee’s going tomorrow, so there’s certainly enough to hang your hat on if you’re a phillies guy.

    What a joke.

  156. Reggie C. says:

    Christina. Park.


  157. Esteban says:

    Ravech and Kruk are painfully trying to make a case for the Phillies.

  158. Gammons: ‘The Phillies aren’t playing, in this series, the way they played all year.’

    (Implying that the Phillies are shitting the bed, discounting the value of the Yankees’ victories so far.)

    Kruk: ‘I agree. None of the teams the Yanks have faced – Twins, Angels, Phillies – have played their best against the Yankees… (dismissively) Is it just that the Yankees are that good?’

    (Again, discounting the value of the Yankees’ victories so far.)

    Bobby Fucking Valentine: ‘Yes.’

    Bobby Valentine… I have a man-crush on you. Baseball innovator and independent, master of disguise, inventor of the wrap-sandwich, and voice of reason amidst the collection of mouth-breathers on ESPN. You are the man.

  159. steve (different one) says:

    Mitch Williams: Lidge had 48 saves last year, you take away Carlos Ruiz from behind the plate, he might not have had 25 saves…

    now you know why Molina is catching tomorrow. this is how ballplayers think.

  160. Doug says:

    Goddamn, Bobby V is hurling motherfucking TRUTH BOMBS.

    <3 that man.

  161. Souter Fell says:

    is mo sick?

  162. Ghost of Scott Brosius says:

    I think part of it with the media is that they have to tout the losing team’s chances in order to ensure continued interest in what’s going on.

  163. mustang says:

    ESPN has hit ROCK BOTTOM.

    It’s not that Yankees are good it’s that everyone else is playing so bad.


    It tells you something when Bobby V is the only voice of reason

  164. aj says:

    Burnett becomes a yankee legend if he closes it out tonight!

  165. Check out this AP report:

    In what universe is the crowd’s A-Rod-steroids chant relevant in a short article about the Yanks and Phils getting warned about pitching inside after the Phils plunked A-Rod for the 2nd time in 2 games? Embarrassing (for the AP).

  166. Nady Nation says:

    Anyone hear if they’re opening the Stadium tomorrow night for Game 5? Would love to be there for a clincher.

  167. Tony says:

    AJ wants his WS MVP. This ends tomorrow.

  168. aj says:

    lmao whos talking??? arod

  169. JMK aka The Overshare says:

    I know everyone is discussing the analytical ineptitude of ESPN’s baseball talking heads (though not Bobby V), but you guys are masochists. Why do you willingly subject yourselves to obvious stupidity?

    Watch MLB Network. They’re not amazing, but they’re a heck of a lot better than ESPN.

    • crapula says:

      I agree. I think ESPN is unwatchable. I’m not a huge fan of MLB either but at least I can watch it.

    • BigBlueAL says:

      Thats what Im watching now. Granted guys like Harold Reynolds and Joe Magrane arent exactly geniuses but they do seem to be more neutral with their analysis.

      Unfortunately for them they have all ex-players and sometimes their lack of any knowledge and usage of sabermetrics really does make some of their analysis laughable.

    • Chris says:

      I don’t get MLB network, but I get ESPN.

      • JMK aka The Overshare says:

        That’s too bad. However, I should stress that you do have the internet and there are a ton of great sites that offer solid analysis. You already know of one.

        • After a big playoff win, if you’re watching the game on TV, you don’t cruise around to all the channels and check out the post-game shows to bask in the victory a bit? I rarely watch ESPN or any of the sports shows (other than games), but I definitely like checking out the post-game shows after the Yankees win in the playoffs.

          • JMK aka The Overshare says:

            I check out YES and every blue moon, MLB. Never ESPN, though. I definitely see the appeal to checking all of them out, but meh, I just can’t see anything of value in ESPN. I’ve completely boycotted them.

            Also, by the time these games are over, I’m usually in bed. Can only bask for so long until I realize that I have work early in the morning.

    • I never watch ESPN, but after everyone freaked out about Kruk last night I figured I’d check it out to see what’s going on over there.

      But dude… Look, I’m glad we have the MLB Network. It’s a cool thing to have, no doubt. But let’s not act like the guys on MLB Network are so much better. They’re all morons, too. They’re just not as offensively idiotic as Kruk, Gammons and the ESPN peanut gallery (excluding the great Bobby V. – Fairfield County represent – of course).

      • JMK aka The Overshare says:

        Agreed. MLB isn’t great by any stretch, but there are more analysts (with what seems to be a lesser degree of bias) and I think they have more of a stomach for advanced metrics. Ultimately, they’re still only the lesser of two evils. I generally prefer to just check out sites (and this one is great, for sure) for analysis. ESPN is solely for entertainment value.

        • JMK aka The Overshare says:

          Just as I type this they all lobby for Chad Gaudin to pitch the next game.

          Hmm…I don’t feel as confident in my previous post anymore.

          • Yeah… Obviously this is a matter of taste, so there’s no right or wrong answer… But I think you’re overestimating the MLBN crew a bit. Their whole panel are members of the baseball flat-earth society.

            • JMK aka The Overshare says:

              I might be overestimating them. There’s a very good chance of that. I think they just put a bit more thought into their analysis than ESPN. They discussed the weird strike zone tonight, the HBP on A-Rod, the individual match-ups and look beyond the pale of basic numbers far more often than ESPN. Again, they’re not very good, and I don’t want to make it sound like I’m putting forth that assertion.

              I’d bet the RAB crew along with you, TSJC, Moshe, Artist, Rebecca, Andy in Sunny, whozat, some of the Steves and Mikes and others I’ve forgotten, could put together a MUCH, MUCH better TV analysis. Unfortunately, my childish, feeble brain is attracted to all the bright colors on television and you guys (and gal) aren’t there.

  170. mustang says:

    ESPN back to the NFL and Brett Favre.

    It’s funny as shit.

  171. aj says:

    That was a great moment in the press conference, everyone laughing.

  172. BigBlueAL says:

    It really is some bullshit when basically everyone but Bobby V on ESPN talk about everything the Phillies did wrong and how they are still in the series.

    When the Yankees won 4 out of 5 from 1996-2000 all everybody talked about was how good the Yankees were and how easy it was to root for this group of players etc. Now it seems everyone is so obsessed with the payroll and have embraced this Yankees as the Evil Empire bullshit it is really making the national media coverage of them a joke.

    Only the “stats” guys on ESPN like Neyer and Keith Law flat out just say they are the best team in baseball period and have predicted them to win every series this postseason (even though they do constantly rip Girardi as a manager).

    • Brandon says:

      Honestly its the natural progression of things. The yankees back then were what the red sox were the past few years. They were a team that hadn’t won in a while, and they came together and started dominating baseball. No one cared about payroll (or steroids for that matter) and now after having been on “top” for a long time the media is trying to downplay the yankees as much as possible.

      The yankees as all of us know on RAB are great for baseball because even if theyre talking crap about the yankees, theyre still talking about the yankees.

      I am a college student living in Boston. I am a DIEHARD yankees fan, have been my entire life. I know more than most everyone what its like to have to “defend” the yankees and their “spending habits”. Ive accepted that people just hate the yankees because they are the best. They have a great organization capable of spending the millions they do. The fan base is loyal which again contributes to them being able to spend like they do. You just gotta roll with the punches…people will eventually always hate the top dogs, and the yankees simply are the top dogs.

      • Bob Stone says:

        I empathize. I’ved lived in Boston for 19 years as a Yankee fan. It’s actually a LOT of fun if you have a thick skin. Granted . . . it was much more fun before 2004, but I’m a fan and defend my team to the MAX.

        Hang in there.

      • You’ve got the right attitude, I wish more people were able to put things into perspective like that. It’s especially cool coming from someone who’s relatively young. All the commenters around here who use arguments like ‘well you’re young so you’re part of a different generation and you’ve never seen the Yankees lose and I’m smarter than you because I’m older’ should take note, this kid just shamed you.

        (I did college up in Boston, it’s definitely an annoying experience as a Yankees fan. Getting out of NY gives you some good perspective on all the Yankees issues and hatred out there, though.)

    • mustang says:

      The whole thing is a joke. I’m not one of these guys who is into the homer thing like on YES or 880.
      but if your the world leader of sports you have to do better then Brett Favre and the world is playing bad vs. the Yankees.

  173. Esteban says:

    Was that ninth inning hit the biggest of A-Rod’s career?

  174. Brandon says:

    Jeter would be my MVP no?

  175. crapula says:

    I have been a Yankee fan all my life. Win or lose, I’m a Yankee fan. If they want to spend $30 Million on payroll or $500 million on payroll, I don’t care. I’m still a fan.

    But this is NYC. It’s the TOP market in the country and the media and fans here are BRUTAL. Not an easy place to play in. The Steinbrenners gave us all this year, players, a stadium etc. And I don’t care what anyone says about them. I love the Yankees and I thank the Steinbrenners.

    And this is New York bitches. Get used to it.

    • Bob Stone says:

      Everyone forgets the fact that the Orioles had the highest payroll in baseball in 1994 and the Yanks were running away with the division until the friggin strike happened. Spending lots of money, in and of itself, does NOT make for a World Series Champion.

  176. BigBlueAL says:

    Holy shit Harold Reynolds just made a great point. He says hold back AJ for Game 6 because in Game 5 they will have an offense with Molina, Gardner if Melky is injured and the P (Burnett).

    Im more worried about whoever starts Game 6 for the Yankees if necessary but I forgot about how bad the bottom of the Yankees lineup will look tomorrow especially if Melky is out.

  177. crapula says:

    Did someone here piss off TSJC? He’s been sending a few tweets but no rabbing? Who said what to him?

  178. mantlearod11 says:

    arod if he has a big game tomorrow

  179. mustang says:

    Those of you watching the MLB network or YES during the WS just missed live coverage of Brett Favre taking a shit on ESPN.

    good night ALL.

    PS The yankees will make it even hard for all the haters tomorrow.

  180. crapula says:

    Remember when we were 0-8 against Boston and everyone was jumping off the ledge?

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