Dec
21

Non-Breaking News: Yanks looking to add a starter

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Via MLBTR, the Yanks are looking to add a starting pitcher this offseason, although this time Mike Puma of the Post has attached the completely arbitrary deadline of New Year’s to it. What’s going to happen if they don’t bring in another arm in 11 days, are they just going to stop trying? No, of course not. Since when is Brian Cashman someone that won’t wait and wait and wait to get something at the price he wants?

Anyway, Puma’s report also mentions that Cashman “is believed to have inquired about Carlos Zambrano,” which is as vague as a rumor could possible be. Thankfully the Cubs already shot it down, and Jason at IIATMS explained why Zambrano would be a bad idea, saving me the trouble. As we’ve been saying, Ben Sheets and/or Justin Duchscherer is the way to go.

78 Comments»

  1. MattG says:

    I find it funny that Sheets and Duchsherer are 1a and 1b. In my mind, Sheets is 1, and Duchsherer is only 2 in the fact that 2 has to follow 1.

    • aj says:

      Good point. Sheets has a longer history of being productive as a starter.

    • Zack says:

      if you go by just talent then yes. but if you factor in contract demands then they are closer

      • vin says:

        Yeah, and the potential that Duchscherer, Joba and Phil can compete for the final two spots, with the least deserving pitcher going to the pen. Sheets is a starter, and he would be guaranteed a spot in the rotation (if healthy).

        The J-Duch approach may be better for the development of the young pitchers, but not necessarily better for the team’s w/l record since Sheets is the better pitcher.

    • Andy in Sunny Daytona says:

      J-Douche is like #8, with #1-7 being Ben Sheets.

  2. Jersey says:

    If you take away the pure speculation, that MLBTR post is virtually content-free.

    • aj says:

      It could have just said, we heard the Yankees are looking for a starter. But we have no f*n idea who it could be.

    • JobaWockeeZ says:

      I looked for a quote to see how much people misread what he said but there was no quote so yeah it’s hugely speculation.

      • Zack says:

        Just like how people said Cashman said that he was embarassed by the payroll, except he never said that.
        Plus, are GMs even allowed to comment about wanting a player who under contract with another team?

        People just think Yankees need to react to the Lackey signing for some reason, so they go out and look at every pitcher with a big contract and find a way to link the Yankees to that player

    • sciorsci says:

      So is most of the internet. At least Tim is better than just about anyone else out there.

  3. steve s says:

    This is not a knock against Cashman but don’t agree with statement that he’s a guy who waits and waits until the price comes down (with CC and AJ being the prime examples of Cashman acting fast and perhaps even bidding against himself to make those signings).

    • crawdaddie says:

      AJ had a similar five year offer from Atlanta, but chose the Yankees. CC was interested in staying in California, but Cashman moved fast to prevent them from getting involved. His fast work with both pitchers allowed the Yankees to be ready when the Teixiera opportunity came upon them.

    • A.D. says:

      So its a combo, basically it seems there are clear priorities, last year it was starting pitching, this year getting Pettitte signed, in which Cash just looks to get it done and doesn’t want to wait. For the luxuries he appears to be the wait till the price comes down/ settles. Which is more the case with some of the trades & Tex.

      • A.D. says:

        Something that Ruben Amaro hasn’t done in Philly, jumping all over Ibanez & Polanco, and overpaying. While I’m fairly confident the Yanks got Tex & Burnett for as cheap as they could, perhaps CC a bit more then they could have, but they didn’t want to risk it.

  4. ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops says:

    Without looking at what Jason wrote at IIATMS, I’d take a guess:

    a) he costs a lot of money over the next several years,
    b) there are some injury concerns,
    c) his stats have gotten worse and
    d) it would cost some good prospects to get him.

  5. Neon Noodle says:

    The deadline isn’t arbitrary. Obviosuly they’ve already written the year 2009 on all contract proposals and there is no way in hell they’re gonna go through the trouble of making changes.

  6. A.D. says:

    However, Ken Davidoff of Newsday talked to “a person in the Yankees’ loop” who said Sheets is “not even on the board” currently.

    Interesting.

  7. JobaJr says:

    What would it take to pry Ted Lilly from the Cubs?

  8. Jordan - Undecided 2010 says:

    via MLBTR Twitter, Bruce Levine says the Cashman Zambrano inquiry is false.

  9. Is it possible the Cubs and Yankees are discussing other deals? The Cubs reportedly have interest in Melky/Gardner. Isn’t a reliever or back-end starter a possiblity?

    I think Zambrano would be an awful fit for the Yankees anyway.

  10. cheddar says:

    I think a lot of this depends on how serious the “budget” really is.

    If there is a budget, I think Sheets’ risk/reward is unfavorable because we wouldn’t be willing to add payroll with a decent replacement if he or another starter goes down for an extended period.

    If there isn’t a budget, though, he’s clearly the best option out there.

    • Evil Empire says:

      But here’s the thing; we do have a decent replacement: Phil Hughes.

      Plus, we won it all with CC/AJ/Andy fronting the rotation and Chad Gaudin ending up being in the #5 spot. The rotation is able to handle the risk/reward that Sheets provides, especially with what should be an improved campaign from Chamberlain.

      • Bo says:

        you cant expect the top 3 to do in the playoffs what they did last yr.

        they need to be backed up by some depth in case of injuries and performance.

        you dont survive on 3 starters. and u dont survive relying on young starters learning like joba and hughes. esp when one may be in the pen anyway

  11. Thomas says:

    The Nationals reportedly will sign Marquis (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....rquis.html), so there is one crappy FA starter the Yankees thankfully won’t sign.

    Now we need Joel Pineiro to sign with a non-Yankees team.

    • Salty Buggah says:

      I’m sure Cash isn’t dumb enough to sign Pineiro with his contract demands.

      • scooter says:

        Mediocre-to-bad pitcher has career year under tutelage of guru pitching coach right before becoming a free agent

        Kyle Lohse and Jaret Wright say “hi”

        4 years for Pineiro? I just don’t see it

        If Sheets is having his ‘audition’ in January, if Cashman wants a resolution by the end of the year, and if Garland is looking for 3 years (see http://www.metsblog.com/), then Duchsherer is the only choice

        If Sheets is Cashman’s #1 choice, then (like Damon) his agent has been given a deadline before the Yankees move on to Duchsherer.

      • Thomas says:

        I agree Cashman is unlikely to sign Pineiro. However, Pineiro has been “linked” (make of that what you will) and the faster he signs with another team, the sooner I will be very happy.

  12. bobmac says:

    Duchscherer first then Sheets.

  13. John NY says:

    What did Harden get from the Rangers? $7 Million with incentives? I find it hard to believe Sheets would ask for more guaranteed scratch than Harden. Harden pitched in 2009, Sheets didn’t.

    Cashman might not have him on the board because his price is too high. Again, waiting in the weeds.

    And last, why would Puma from the Post throw the Zambrano thing out there? Seems reckless to report that unless he got confused with another move that might be coming?

  14. Bo says:

    Why wouldnt they discuss Zambrano? Im sure Cashman discusses every player. Esp when hes probably had convos with the Cub GM about other players ie gardner/melky. I’ll go out on a limb and say the Cubs would be glad to pass off Zambranos contract on someone.

    • John NY says:

      Exactly Bo…

      Cash is always talking about other team’s players. No harm no foul in that. That’s why I think Puma from the Post wrote about Zambrano.

  15. Jobamania says:

    Well…….this sorta counts towards adding a starter:

    “The Yankees are working on another ‘big acquisition,’ from what I have been told by people close to their front office. I have no idea who it is, or if it’s close, but, for the Mets sake, I’m hoping it’s a trade. I can’t even imagine what will happen to the Mets if the Yankees sign either Bay or Holliday. Yikes. That could force St. Louis and Citi Field in to an absolute scramble for whomever the Yankees didn’t sign… and so, I wonder if that is what Bay and Holliday are holding out hope for.”
    http://www.metsblog.com/2009/1.....ng-bluffs/

  16. I’d still like to see both Joba and Hughes stay in the rotation to start the year. I know we need pitching depth but what if a guy like Sheets would start the year in the pen as a long innings guy. This way if something happens he could easily be switched into the rotation.

    For the time being, I think its more important to let Hughes and Joba continue to develop in the rotation. If that bombs, or there is an injury then we’d have the depth to put in another starter like Sheets or Duchscherer.

    I just think that for the letting the young starters develop should be more important than throwing a 1 year rental right into the rotation.

  17. Gaug says:

    If they sign a starter forget joba or Hughes starting

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