Mar
15

Open Thread: A day off

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I despise off days during the baseball season, and the same goes for the exhibition season as well. The Yankees enjoyed their first scheduled off day of the spring today, which was a bit of a bummer for us fans. Even more of a bummer is that picture above, showing the demolition of the leftfield stands at the Old Stadium. And that picture is four days old. Imagine what the place looks like now.

Anyway, here’s your open thread for this Monday night. I want to remind you that we’re trying to clean up the comments, and keep them free of inside jokes and memes and harassing of non-regulars. Take the Curtis Granderson thread from earlier today, there’s over a hundred comments on it, but maybe 30 are about Granderson. Please clean it up (I’m looking at you, regular commentors) and stay on topic. Thanks.

Photo Credit: Bebeto Matthews, AP

Categories : Open Thread
  • bexarama

    :(

    I actually like days off during the regular season, because I can NOT go insane for one day and I can watch the games that don’t matter.

    Also, is anyone else having issues posting on Firefox?

    • Jose

      Not here.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

    There is a contestant on jeopardy who looks like he’s about my age….and wearing a vest under his suit.

    • JGS

      I don’t think I have ever worn a three piece suit

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

        Don’t bother starting now. They’re so 1950s.

        • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

          When appropriate I think three piece suits are very attractive on men. Look at Mad Men. Who doesn’t like the way Don Draper dresses?

        • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templeton_Peck Templeton “brendog” Peck

          i only rock the 3 piece. and make it look good.

          • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

            Pics or you never rocked it.

            • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templeton_Peck Templeton “brendog” Peck

              let’s see what i got. also, i do have a full beard, so i guess im a pocket watch away from the 50′s anyway

              • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templeton_Peck Templeton “brendog” Peck
                • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

                  Straight up pimp! I approve, especially of the soft gray & tie combo.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                  You look like a gangster!

                  /HenryHill’sMom’d

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                  And for the record, yes, I just quoted a movie. When I quote movies, however, it’s not off-topic, it’s ON-topic. I quote movies in the course of the actual conversation. I topically tie my movie quotes to the issues being discussed.

                • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

                  This is the one thread where we’re all safe without explanation. Unless, of course, we’re creating new threads repeatedly on the same topic.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                  I’m just saying that my movie quotes are on-topic even in off-topic threads. Go back and look at the movie quote I did in the aforementioned Granderson thread. You’ll find it both topical and innocuous.

                • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templeton_Peck Templeton “brendog” Peck

                  3 piece. fuck yes.

    • Andy In Sunny Daytona

      Is that a Doors Andy Warhol tie?

  • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

    How’s my team looking?
    10 team H2H league (18 categories, 10 hitting/8 pitching)

    C-Mauer
    1B-A-Gonz
    2B-Utley
    3B-Figgins
    SS-Zobrist
    CI-Berkman
    MI-F. Lopez (until Beckham is eligible)
    OF-Ichiro
    OF-Manny
    OF-Markakis
    OF-Ibanez
    UTIL-Nick the Stick
    BN-Beckham
    BN-Willingham
    BN-B. Wood

    SP-Lee
    SP-Ubaldo
    RP-Soria
    RP-Street
    P-B. Anderson
    P-Wagner
    BN-Sheets
    BN-Strasburg

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

      Weak on pitching, but I like the hitting and it’s a good gamble on sheets.

      • Salty Buggah

        Yea, as long as he doesn’t pitch like he did today. 10 batters, none retired, 10 runs, 9 earned, 8 hits, 1 walk.

        I think he’ll end being a good gamble for the A’s, though.

        • JGS

          I feel like he would have gotten yanked sooner had it been a regular season game

        • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

          Yeah, my draft was last night, and he pulled that today….

          19th round though, so definitely worth it.

      • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

        I go weak on pitching somewhat intentionally because the league is (stupidly) set up with more hitting categories. That and there’s still a ton of solid pitchers on waivers, Danks, Liriano, Porcello, Harang, Joba, Price, etc. A few of those guys will break out, I’ll just have to pick them up early. I’m tempted to dump Strasburg for Price, but not until I know what Strasburg is doing. It’s NL East vs. AL East, so all things being equal, I prefer Strasburg.

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

    RIP, Capt. Clarence Oveur. I hope you enjoy your big gladiator movie in the sky.

    http://www.startribune.com/ent.....c:_Yyc:aUU

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

      Surely you can’t be serious

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

        I am serious.

        And don’t call me Shirley.

    • JGS

      Good night, Mr. Phelps

    • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

      Do we have clearance, Clarence?

  • Jose

    I just have a comment on the off-topic comments. I would go as far as saying only 15 or so comments in that thread had any value for the topic at hand. Please RAB regulars can we have threads again where 90% is on topic rather then 90% meme content?

    • WIlliam

      This is an open thread, what are you talking about? We can post anything we ant here, that’s the point of an open thread.

      • Jose

        I was talking about the Curtis Granderson thread that was mentioned in the post up top. Hence why I said “that post” and not “this post”.

      • http://www.baseballbrewery.blogspot.com HolyGhostClaw

        PWNED!!

  • Salty Buggah

    Ronan Tynan = Idiot

    http://www.boston.com/news/loc.....s_a_voice/

    So it seems like what he said was taken out of context but I don’t think a respected organization like Yankees could have afforded to keep him. But it is funny how he moved to Boston and says it’s an honor to wear a Sox jersey.

    Also, the author of that article is trying his best to make the Yankees look really bad (with statements like “Showing far more class than the Yankees,” etc.)

    • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

      I’m wondering why it took him 6 months to change his story though? When it first came out, what he said was different, and he confirmed that he said whatever the email said. There is a huge difference between what was reported then, and what he is saying now. Why did he take so long to clear the air?

      • Salty Buggah

        You know, I wondered that too when I read that article. I may be wrong but I thought he admitted to saying something anti-Semitic.

    • bexarama

      this morning I read that and was like “OH MY GOD HE’S DEFINITELY GOING TO SING AT FENWAY!” Which is why I cannot be expected to do anything before like 10 AM.

      My favorite part, though, was this:
      The Red Sox are playing the Yankees on Opening Day at Fenway, which is really Opening Night, April 4. How sweet would it be for the Yankees front office to sit there and watch Ronan Tynan walk to the microphone on his artificial legs and unleash that voice in Fenway Park?
      Oh sh-t. First we lost the PECOTA projections. Now we’re gonna have Ronan Tynan singing at Fenway Park. How can the Yankee organization even compete???

    • http://iheartrerun.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/rerun.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

      Somehow I think the Yankees will get over the Sox taking their seventh inning singer sloppy seconds… A guy who was let go because he made what were, at the very least, insensitive and stupid remarks, no less. So ridiculous. That’s embarrassing for the Sox, not the Yanks.

  • Slu

    “I want to remind you that we’re trying to clean up the comments, and keep them free of inside jokes and memes and harassing of non-regulars.”

    This is the greatest news in the history of this site. Seriously. I hope it actually works. It would be nice to be able to read opinions about Yankee topics from a wider variety of people.

    It is supposed to fun to talk about baseball and many times these things come down to opinion. Some of you think your opinions are fact and need to lighten up a bit on the criticism of other posters whom you disagree with. It takes some of the fun out of it.

    And enough of the movie quotes…

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

      My Ides of March FOUR ROUND mock draft:

      Round 1
      1. Rams - QB Sam Bradford , Oklahoma
      2. Lions - DT Ndamukong Suh, Nebraska
      3. Buccaneers - DT Gerald McCoy , Oklahoma
      4. Redskins - T Russell Okung, Oklahoma State
      5. Chiefs - S Eric Berry, Tennessee
      6. Seahawks - QB Jimmy Clausen, Notre Dame
      7. Browns - CB Joe Haden, Florida
      8. Raiders - T Anthony Davis, Rutgers
      9. Bills - T Bruce Campbell, Maryland
      10. Jaguars - S Taylor Mays, USC
      11. Broncos (from CHI) - WR Dez Bryant, Oklahoma State
      12. Dolphins - EgRsh Jason Pierre-Paul, South Florida
      13. 49′ers - T Trent Williams, Oklahoma
      14. Seahawks (from DEN) - EgRsh Derrick Morgan, Georgia Tech
      15. Giants - ILB Rolando McClain, Alabama
      16. Titans - DT Brian Price, UCLA
      17. 49′ers (from CAR) - RB C.J. Spiller, Clemson
      18. Steelers - G Mike Iupati, Idaho
      19. Falcons - OLB Sergio Kindle, Texas
      20. Texans - CB Kyle Wilson, Boise State
      21. Bengals - S Earl Thomas, Texas
      22. Patriots - EgRsh Brandon Graham, Michigan
      23. Packers - T Bryan Bulaga, Iowa
      24. Eagles - DE Carlos Dunlap, Florida
      25. Ravens - TE Jermaine Gresham, Oklahoma
      26. Cardinals - EgRsh Jerry Hughes, TCU
      27. Cowboys - DT Dan Williams, Tennessee
      28. Chargers - RB Ryan Mathews, Fresno State
      29. Jets - WR Arrelious Benn, Illinois
      30. Vikings - CB Devin McCourty, Rutgers
      31. Colts - DT Jared Odrick, Penn State
      32. Saints - DE Everson Griffen, USC

      Round 2
      33. Rams - OLB Sean Weatherspoon, Missouri
      34. Lions - RB Jahvid Best, California
      35. Buccaneers - WR Golden Tate, Notre Dame
      36. Chiefs - T Charles Brown, USC
      37. Redskins - C Maurkice Pouncey, Florida
      38. Browns - EgRsh Ricky Sapp, Clemson
      39. Raiders - CB/S Chris Cook, Virginia
      40. Seahawks - DT Cam Thomas, North Carolina
      41. Bills - WR Demaryius Thomas, Georgia Tech
      42. Buccaneers (from CHI) - CB Kareem Jackson, Alabama
      43. Dolphins - DT Terrence Cody, Alabama
      44. Patriots (from JAX) - G Vladimir Ducasse, Umass
      45. Broncos - CB Patrick Robinson, Florida State
      46. Giants - DT Tyson Alualu, California
      47. Patriots (from TEN) - WR Dezmon Briscoe, Kansas
      48. Panthers - DT Lamarr Houston, Texas
      49. 49′ers - CB Perrish Cox, Oklahoma State
      50. Chiefs (from ATL) - ILB Brandon Spikes, Florida
      51. Texans - RB Jonathan Dwyer, Georgia Tech
      52. Steelers - OLB Thaddeus Gibson, Ohio State
      53. Patriots - TE Rob Gronkowski, Arizona
      54. Bengals - TE Anthony McCoy, USC
      55. Eagles - OLB Navorro Bowman, Penn State
      56. Packers - RB Dexter McCluster, Mississippi
      57. Ravens - CB Donovan Warren, Michigan
      58. Cardinals - T Rodger Saffold, Indiana
      59. Cowboys - S Nate Allen, South Florida
      60. Chargers - S Chad Jones, LSU
      61. Jets - EgRsh Brandon Lang, Troy
      62. Vikings - G Jon Asamoah, Illinois
      63. Colts - T Selvish Capers, West Virginia
      64. Saints - OLB Daryl Washington, TCU

      Round 3
      65. Rams - WR Damian Williams, USC
      66. Lions - T Edwin Veldheer, Hillsdale
      67. Buccaneers - DE Alex Carrington, Arkansas State
      Redskins (pick forfeited)
      68. Chiefs - EgRsh Nawa’akoa Misi, Utah
      69. Raiders - DE Corey Wooton, Northwestern
      70. Eagles (from SEA) - ILB Patrick Angerer, Iowa
      71. Browns - OLB Eric Norwood, South Carolina
      72. Bills - QB Colt McCoy, Texas
      73. Dolphins - WR Mike Williams, Syracuse
      74. Jaguars - QB Tony Pike, Cincinnati
      75. Bears - G Zane Beadles, Utah
      76. Giants - EgRsh Greg Hardy, Mississippi
      77. Titans - WR Brandon LaFell, LSU
      78. Panthers - WR Mardy Gilyard, Cincinnati
      79. 49′ers - EgRsh Jason Worilds, Virginia Tech
      80. Broncos - TE Aaron Hernandez, Florida
      81. Texans - QB Tim Tebow, Florida
      82. Steelers - CB Amari Spievey, Iowa
      83. Falcons - DT Arthur Jones, Syracuse
      84. Bengals - EgRsh Jermaine Cunningham, Florida
      85. Browns (from NE via OAK??) - QB Dan LeFevour, Central Michigan
      86. Packers - CB Dominique Franks, Oklahoma
      87. Eagles - RB Montario Hardesty, Tennessee
      88. Cardinals (from BAL) - ILB Sean Lee, Penn State
      89. Cardinals - CB Javier Arenas, Alabama
      90. Cowboys - WR Eric Decker, Minnesota
      91. Chargers - DT Al Woods, LSU
      92. Browns (from NYJ) - WR Taylor Price, Ohio
      93. Vikings - DT Vince Oghobaase, Duke
      94. Colts - G Mike Johnson, Alabama
      95. Saints - S Larry Asante, Nebraska

      Round 4
      96. Rams - DT Michael Neal, Purdue
      97. Lions - S Reshad Jones, Georgia
      98. Buccaneers - T Adam Ulatoski, Texas
      99. Chiefs - CB Jerome Murphy, South Florida
      100. Redskins - RB Joe McKnight, USC
      101. Seahawks - T Tony Washington, Abilene Christian
      102. Browns - S Myron Rolle, Florida State
      103. Raiders - DT Earl Mitchell, Arizona
      104. Bills - EgRsh Lindsey Witten, Connecticut
      105. Jaguars - G John Jerry, Mississippi
      106. Bears - WR David Reed, Utah
      107. Dolphins - CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, Indiana (PA)
      108. Titans - EgRsh O’Brien Schofield, Wisconsin
      109. Panthers - T Kyle Calloway, Iowa
      110. 49′ers - G Chris Scott, Tennessee
      111. Broncos - ILB Roddrick Muckelroy, Texas
      112. Giants - T Sam Young, Notre Dame
      113. Steelers - RB Ben Tate, Auburn
      114. Falcons - EgRsh Austen Lane, Murray State
      115. Texans - DT Brandon Deaderick, Alabama
      116. Patriots - DT Geno Atkins, Georgia
      117. Bengals - RB Anthony Dixon, Mississippi State
      118. Eagles - C Justin Walton, Baylor
      119. Packers - EgRsh George Selvie, South Florida
      120. Cardinals (from BAL) - WR Jordan Shipley, Texas
      121. Jets (from AZ) - CB Brandon Ghee, Wake Forest
      122. Cowboys - T Kevin Haslam, Rutgers
      123. Chargers - CB Trevard Lindley, Kentucky
      124. Eagles (from NYJ) - CB Myron Lewis, Vanderbilt
      125. Vikings - QB Jarrett Brown, West Virginia
      126. Colts - OLB Dexter Davis, Arizona State
      127. Saints - DT D’Anthony Smith, Louisiana Tech

      • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

        I just love seeing all those Pats picks in the 1st 2 rounds. What do you think of Odrick, I’ve seen him possibly linked to the Pats? Sounds like solid piece, nothing special, but a good fit as a 3-4 end.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

          Odrick reminds me of Ty Warren.

          He’s never going to go to a Pro Bowl, he’s never going to be an elite, game changing DT, but you can plug him in as one of your two 4-3 DTs or one of your 3-4 DEs for 6-8 years and you’ll never notice him, in a good way. He won’t get beat at the point of attack, he’ll just quietly (and anonymously) hold up his man and let other players around him make plays.

          He’d be a solid pick, but I can’t see him falling all the way to #44. If the Colts don’t take him, the Seahawks will.

          • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

            I’ve seen speculation that they’d take him with their 1st pick. I keeping talking myself in and out of Graham. Everyone’s picking the Pats to take him, which means they likely won’t, they’ll pull a Mankins or Vollmer or some other guy that everyone else has rated much lower.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

              Meh, Odrick isn’t really enough of an impact player for you to take him at #22. I think the only way the Pats don’t go either Graham or Jerry Hughes at #22 is if they trade down for more picks, which is possible (and then take Odrick lower.)

      • donttradecano

        finally a mock i can agree with. Although Hardy concerns me a little bit. Loads of talent, but who knows if he has the motivation. Id go Hardy or Arenas there. They need a another corner and someone who could be a factor in the return game.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

          In order for McClain to fall to you, though, it all hinges on what the Jaguars do at #10. With the Kampman signing, they don’t really have any glaring holes, they just need help anywhere and can gamble a little on a high-upside BPA.

          I have them gambling on Mays, which sets up all the dominoes (Broncos/Dolphins/49′ers/Seahawks) to line up perfectly for McClain to fall to you, but if the Jags, say, take Dez Bryant or Jason Pierre-Paul there instead of Mays, than one of the Broncos or Dolphins will take McClain before the G-Men get a chance to.

          • Reggie C.

            You realize that the Broncos released their starter ILB Andra Davis 4 days ago. I think a McClain selection makes total sense at this point. Brandon Marshall hasn’t been traded yet so why not just grab the best LB in the draft.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

              I agree, McClain to the Broncos is a great fit. I think if both McClain and Dez Bryant are on the board for them at 11 (which they are in my mock), they take Bryant, since they know Brandon Marshall probably isn’t long for the team one way or another. But they certainly could go the other way.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

    Geez, some of you are grumpy tonight.

    • Andy In Sunny Daytona

      Daddy yelled at us. haha

    • Jose

      Who’s grumpy?

    • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

      I’m in a great mood. It was cloudy and drizzling all day and then the clouds parted and the sun burst forth just in time for me to get out of work and enjoy it.

  • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

    If I’m not missing anything, LDT is a downgrade from Thomas Jones, right?

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

      It would seem that way.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

        Think of it this way:

        Thomas Jones duplicates what Shonn Greene does.
        LaDanian duplicates what Leon Washington does.

        Between Shonn and Leon, we’re more worried about Leon either A) not being healthy or B) leaving soon because he’s overpriced.

        We traded our Shonn insurance for Leon insurance. I think that’s a smart trade.

        • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

          I see LDT being Washington insurance as a 3rd round back, but he doesn’t have the breakaway ability that Leon has, either catching the ball or running. I can see where LT fits better with that regard, but in my mind, if Tomlinson is taking carries/catches from a healthy Washington, as a Pats fan, I’m happy.

        • Hughesus Christo

          LaDanian does what Leon Washington does? WTF? Methinsk you are a little too quick to defend whatever the Jets do. I’m reminded of you being excited about a Justin Fargas rumor.

          JUSTIN FARGAS

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

            LDT and Leon Washington, at this point in their careers, are both smallish, non-physical backs who do their damage in the flat as receivers or on screens. I fail to see how comparing them is something you can’t seem to grasp as logical.

            And yes, I was excited about Fargas. Behind our OL, he’d be solid. Behind our OL, every back would be solid, for that matter.

            • Hughesus Christo

              Tomlinson doesn’t go damage anywhere. They could draft a RB in the 5th/6th round and get someone of equal (probably greater) skill at this point.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                Tomlinson doesn’t do damage in San Diego because they abandoned the run and Marcus McNeil is the only OL they have who actually wins his point of attack. There’s a reason the Chargers run game sucked last year while the Jets run game was dominant, and it had nothing to do with any of the runningbacks on either team.

                LDT will put up a solid season in Green and White. Well worth the money. He’s perfect for this team.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                They could draft a RB in the 5th/6th round and get someone of equal (probably greater) skill at this point.

                Signing LDT allows us to not have to draft someone in the 5th/6th round. We can now use that pick to upgrade the defense.

                Strategery FTW.

        • donttradecano

          i dont think its certain that shonn produces like TJ did

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

            Certain, no. Likely, yes.

  • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

    So I’m stuck in an airport in Palm Beach with my flight delayed three hours, and Mike has to go and post this picture. STAB ME IN THE HEART, WHY DON’T YOU, AXISA?

    • Kevin G.

      If you get back in time you can save Yankee Stadium! (probably not)

  • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

    I want this shirt. Go ahead–scorn me. I can take it.

    http://shirt.woot.com/Friends.aspx?k=11929

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

      The poem/song that accompanies that shirt joys me.

      • Jose

        Have you ever heard the original song? “Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey” has so many strange sound effects.

      • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

        I assume you’re familiar with this tune: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJvxEjGpIqU (NSFW)

    • Jose

      I didn’t even know Woot! had a shirt section.

    • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templeton_Peck Templeton “brendog” Peck

      i have a shirt.woot shirt that is lime green and says:

      “irony: (picture of an iron) the opposite of wrinkly.

      so i feel the dork.

      • Jose

        Awesome. You should look at Snorg Tees if you haven’t already. They have some funny ones.

      • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

        Heh, I like that one. This shirt is the dorkiest I own and it is dorky: http://store.dieselsweeties.co.....unch-shirt

        • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templeton_Peck Templeton “brendog” Peck

          that. is. awesome.

          you rock my world haha. the dorkiest one i have is by far the vitruvian voltron. gooel it.

          thinkgeek.com vitruvian voltron….amazing.

  • bonestock94

    What do you guys think of my team? I think I’m lacking in the OF/Util department. And don’t mind Ajax being utility or my SP rotation, I haven’t quite set the lineups yet. This is a 16 team league btw.

    C Víctor Martínez

    1B Lance Berkman

    2B Asdrubal Cabrera

    3B Ryan Zimmerman

    SS Hanley Ramírez

    CI Aramis Ramírez

    MI José López

    OF Adam Lind

    OF Nate McLouth

    OF Cody Ross

    OF Milton Bradley

    OF Brett Gardner

    Util Austin Jackson

    BN Desmond Jennings

    BN Jarrod Saltalamacchia

    BN Jake Fox

    SP Randy Wells

    SP Ben Sheets

    SP Ryan Rowland-Smith

    SP Joba Chamberlain

    RP José Valverde

    RP Neftali Feliz

    RP Leo Núñez

    RP Ian Kennedy

    BN Clay Buchholz

    BN Wade Davis

    BN Brian Matusz

    BN Andy Pettitte

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

      Here’s what I think of your team: It’s got too many unnecessary hard returns.

  • The Evil Empire

    Hey guys,

    So RAB, I’m starting my own business and I need some help reaching angel investors.
    Does any one here know someone who is willing to here me pitch for 5 minutes? I promise i wont disappoint! If so please shoot me an email: mannycruz@ymail.com

    Thanks guys.

    • Arch

      I sent you an email

  • bexarama

    Mitch Williams going on and on about how Joba should be in the pen. =/

    • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

      Mitch Williams has one good quality about him. He hates Curt Schilling. Other than that, I have no use for what comes out of his mouth.

      • bexarama

        I was in the middle of writing some really good comment in response to this, and then I had a blackout for like an hour, where I forgot what I was going to say. So… that.

        • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

          I’m sure I would have enjoyed it.

        • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templeton_Peck Templeton “brendog” Peck

          is it cause youre drunk? cause, you know…that happens on mondays

          • bexarama

            haha nah, college is over for me ;)

            I probably should clarify: the power went out because of the scary-ass weather the past couple of days.

    • Accent Shallow

      We’re getting to the point where I want Joba to stick in the rotation solely to shut these idiots up.

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

    Early winner of the Nate Robinson and Marcus Landry for Eddie House, Bill Walker, and J.R. Giddens trade: Knicks in a landslide.

    Walker does everything that Nate does, only better and more efficiently with less ballhandling. And Walker actually plays a little defense on occasion, plus he doesn’t have a gigantic “Post me up!” neon sign blinking over his head.

    Oh, and we got a legit 3-pt marksman in the deal, and saved money (and occupied roster spots with uber-cheap players for important 2010 bench spots).

    Beautiful trade for the Knicks. Beautiful.

    • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

      I always wanted Walker to get a chance. Without the injuries, he’s a top 10 pick. Sure he’s young and would make some mistakes, but they needed to get him minutes.

      That and they totally screwed up my not trading Ray Ray and Sheed if Larry Brown was really interested.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

        Agreed on all points.

        I’m still not sure why Ainge/Doc thought that dealing House and Walker for Nate would improve anything. You traded two solid bench players for one fringy bench player who is wildly inefficient.

        Bad Idea Jeans.

      • donttradecano

        surely playing walker would have been better than signing finley no?

        • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

          Yup.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

            I think you mean to say:

            “surely playing walker would have been better than signing the rapidly desiccating corpse of the undead michael finley no?”

            • donttradecano

              i thought that was implied

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                I like stating the implied explicitly.

    • Nady Nation

      Bonus: Walker is only 23 and is scheduled to make $850,000 next year. Possible cheap, yet effective bench option.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

        Bonus #2: Walker is 6’6″. Nate Robinson: 5’9″.

  • Mike HC

    Anybody else watch Celebrity Apprentice last night and notice David Cone sitting in one of the restaurants?

    I’m not sure if it was him or just someone who looked like him. I was not watching that intently, just kinda caught a glimpse.

    • bexarama

      isn’t Darryl Strawberry on that show? Maybe he got Cone to be an extra or something

      • Mike HC

        yea, Darryl is on the show. I didn’t even put two and two together. It must have been Coney then.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

          I was disappointed in Selita Ebanks. She looked very average on the show, despite looking freaking-stunning elsewhere. Her new short haircut is meh. She should go buy a new $2,000 weave.

          • Mike HC

            Yea, I never heard of her before the show, but you are right on the money. She was definitely beautiful on the show, but nothing compared to the pictures I just looked at of her on the internet.

            And I’m not a fan of short hair on women in general. She was no exception.

            • Mike HC

              Of course, she is half naked on all of these internet pictures and was in a business suit which covered everything on Apprentice. That could be a factor.

      • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

        Next up: Coney on Dancing With the Stars. Man still needs a dance.

        • bexarama

          best commercial ever

          • http://enternight.mlblogs.com Ana

            Seconded. And that boogie in the men’s room isn’t gonna cut it

  • dan

    yanks should put hughes and chamberlin in the pen and use aceves as the fifth starter

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

      Okay, you’re attempting an argument that has tried and failed hundreds of times before, but I’ll give you a shot: Why?

      Convince me.

      • dan

        bc hughes and chamberlin have proven they can dominate out of the pen. and the fifth starter isnt as important as the other starters. Aceves has proven hes capable. I dont think the argument has ever failed. The reason they dont is because long term its better to have them as starters. I dont think many people would say the yankees would be worse this year with them in the pen.

        • dan

          plus i wasnt stating it as opinion. i was stating it as fact. haha just kidding!!!

          It would actually be harder to prove the opposite, since neither hughes or joba have been successful as a starter. its a lot easier to project their effectiveness as relievers.

          • Mike HC

            the same could be said for Aceves, unless I missed his run of starting pitching dominance last year.

        • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

          When arguing a subject matter that has been polarizing in the past, at least spell the name of the polarizing subject correctly.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

            Yeah, that would be a nice touch.

  • dan

    think about it. hughes and joba in the pen and aceves as fifth starter = yanks dominating pen and medicre fifth starter. joba or hughes in pen and the other one as fifth starter =above average pen and mediocre fifth starter

    • Mike HC

      They are all excellent pitchers, and all are expected to play a major role next year. So it would really not make that much of difference who is pitching in what role. So why not do what is best for the long term of the club and develop one of our young prospects while we can

      • dan

        I think for this year you can make an argument that boston has a better team then the yankees. I think moving them to the pen would give the yanks some edge. Boston is gunna be a lot better than people think. they got so much better defensively with cameron, scutaro and beltre. their starting pitching is better 1-3 too. although 1-4 i like the yanks better

        • Mike HC

          I agree that Boston is going to be better this year, but I don’t think they will be better than the Yankees. Of course, who knows? That is the beauty of actually playing the season out.

          I just don’t see why you would assume Aceves would out pitch one of Hughes and Joba as a starter. I don’t see it playing out that way. But you may be correct.

          I personally want Joba because I still think he is the best starter of the three, for this year. Not even thinking about long term.

          • Accent Shallow

            I personally want Joba because I still think he is the best starter of the three, for this year. Not even thinking about long term.

            This is something that bugs me — Joba wasn’t bad, but he still looked solid before throwing 46 awful innings at the end of the year. Neither Aceves nor Hughes have Joba’s track record, and as versatile as Aceves is, I’m not sure he outperforms what either one of them would put up in the rotation.

            • Accent Shallow

              Rephrase previous comment:

              “This is something that bugs me — Joba looked solid for most of the year, even if he did have his issues. He then fell apart at the end of the year, and people seemed to think that’s the guy he was all year, which couldn’t be further from the truth. This is a guy who had a mostly successful full season starting debut, and we’re talking about sticking him in the pen for a guy with the upside of a number four? What?”

              I like Aceves as much as the next guy, but how much better would he be than a 90 ERA+? 100? I’d bet Hughes or Joba could do that, and it’d be better for the long term outlook, as well.

              • pete

                this. oh, so much of this.

  • dan

    aceves has at least been a long reliever though…

    sorry drew, next time ill fix my spelling mistakes to make sure your happy.

    • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

      Use the reply button.

      It’s not about what makes me happy. It’s just hard to take an argument, even if it may be sound and entirely coherent, seriously when you misspell Chamberlain.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

      sorry drew, next time ill fix my spelling mistakes to make sure your happy.

      It’s not just Drew. It’s everyone.

      Good spelling, capitalization, and punctuation is good courtesy.

  • dan

    drew, are you 50? its the internet…you dont use proper punctuation or the reply button when people are being tools

    • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

      I don’t think anyone was being a tool. You stated your opinion of the Huba debate and were asked why you felt that way.

      It never hurts to spell someone’s name correctly.

      btw, no I’m not fifty.

    • Mike HC

      I never heard of that rule. If you are dealing with tools, you should misspell words and not use the reply button? Interesting.

      • pete

        when in rome i guess….

    • pete

      you use proper punctuation and spelling and the reply button always, because it is good manners and good manners are worth maintaining at all times. People disagreeing with you does not make them tools. Grammatical laziness, however, when people are taking the time to address an argument despite the fact that they’ve addressed the EXACT SAME UNCHANGING POINTS countless times, does make someone a tool.

      And as for the actual debate, please, please, please respond directly to this point: what has Alfredo Aceves done to show you that he’s a better starter than Joba or Hughes? Aceves’s track record consists of pitching in independent Mexican leagues until he was 26, then coming stateside and putting up good but not drool-worthy MiL stats as a starter, and then succeeding out of the bullpen the next year. He also had three solid starts at the Major League level back in ’08, which demonstrates that he is not incapable of getting MLB hitters out, but shows nothing of his ability to succeed consistently as a starter.

      Joba Chamberlain’s track record, on the other hand, consists of obliterating the minors well beyond the degree to which Aceves succeeded as a starter at 3 levels and then dominating well beyond the level that Aceves did out of the ‘pen at the Major League level, all during his age 21 season. In his next season, he pitched exceptionally well again as a starter, and then had a stretch of 9 or so starts where, apart from average-y innings totals (generally around 5.2-6.0, which is normal for a young starter), he was truly dominant, pitching to the tune of a 2.63 ERA in the offensively unchallenged AL-East, and striking out more than a batter per inning while maintaining a FB velocity around 95 (touching 99 on occasion) and the same devastating movement and command on the slider, plus an effective curveball.

      Then, in early august, disaster struck when Chamberlain had to dive out of the way of a low throw to 2nd base from Pudge Rodriguez. Two pitches later it was clear that Joba’s shoulder was bugging him, and to the DL he went. The Yankees wisely decided not to push him back as a starter, and when he came back in september, he was in the ‘pen, visibly going easy on his shoulder, barely touching 92-93 on the gun.

      The next season, the yankees felt that the combination of prior shoulder injury and a need to bump up his innings totals, along with a revamped rotation that now included CC Sabathia and AJ Burnett to go along with Andy Pettitte and Chien-Ming Wang (pre-suckitude) and their usual dominant offense, that it was much more important for Joba to stay healthy all season than it was that he pitch to great results. Thus they discouraged him from trying to overpower hitters, hoping he’d learn how to pitch to contact somewhat and conserve himself in the process. First and foremost, however, they wanted him to stay healthy. He did that. Now, I think it’s a stretch to say that the training wheels are completely off – i don’t expect any 122 pitch outings from Joba this year, and i’d imagine they’ll look for ways to slow him down as he begins to surpass 170 innings, especially if he’s pushed himself past Pettitte for the Postseason rotation, but it’s certainly not unreasonable to expect this season to be a much better gauge of him as a starter than last.

      So let’s compare the two then, shall we? We have one pitcher who was successful as a starter in the minors, and successful as a reliever in the majors, but who lacks a quality out pitch and who did not pitch in the major leagues until age 26, which was probably not a fluke. Then we have another pitcher who was dominant as a starter in the minors, dominant in the bullpen in the majors, and had a stretch of dominance as a starter in the majors that was interrupted by an injury (and another, shorter stretch of dominance that was interrupted by innings limits). We’ve seen this pitcher throw two legitimate out pitches with command as a major league starter before, and we’ve seen him show flashes of two other quality pitches. Naturally, being a young starter, we can’t expect a great deal of consistency out of him. But we’ve seen flashes of what he’s capable of, and there is enough evidence to suggest that becoming a front line starter is within his reach.

      So is it possible that Aceves is a better starter than Chamberlain? Sure. But right now, based on all of the available evidence, it’s not likely. Chamberlain has performed at a higher level than Aceves every step of the way, in every role, and has better stuff, and is 3 years younger than Ace. I really think you’re buying a lot more into 10 innings of ST than you should be. IMO, if Joba doesn’t demonstrate enough ability as a starter in ST to be in the rotation, he belongs in Scranton, not the bullpen.

      /pete’d

      • bexarama

        HOLY MOTHER OF GOD!

        Good analysis though.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

        /pete’d

        Heh.

      • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

        This is the pete I know.

  • PaulF

    Is there any place on the internet that collects all MLB injury news in one place?

    • dan

      most the big sites will do it. espn, cbs sports, yahoo. especially when fantasy gets going

    • Kevin G.
      • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

        haha!! ietc

      • bexarama

        tcwa

        • bexarama

          also yaaaaay blackouts for like an hour :|

          • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templeton_Peck Templeton “brendog” Peck

            seriously..like, blackout on your keyboard?

  • Hangoverologist

    I did a fantasy draft on Saturday night. It’s on MLB.com. I’m doing it because I wanted to try my hand at it and the winner of the league gets 10,000 dollars.

    My lineup:

    C: Joe Mauer
    1B: Kendry Morales
    2B: Dan Uggla
    SS: Jason Bartlett
    3B: Adrian Beltre
    OF: Jason Bay
    OF: Chris Coghlan
    OF: Andrew McCutchen
    U: Ryan Ludwick

    Pitching staff:
    ChiSox

    Bench
    Stephen Drew
    Orlando Hudson
    Mark Teahen
    Mike Cameron
    Casey Kotchman
    Paul Konerko

    What do you guys think?

  • nycornerstone

    trade joba he looks washed up

    • Hangoverologist

      Not sure if serious.

    • Reggie C.

      Joba for Mo Jr. (Jenry Mejia) . Just kidding. I hope you were too.

    • whozat

      So…these are the people we’re reining in our behavior to accommodate? dan omg you old people are tools for asking me to punctuate ahahaha and this guy?

    • Accent Shallow

      If he looks washed up, wouldn’t the other teams scouts see that, too?

      Look, young pitchers will break your heart, and maybe the guy wearing number 62 in 2007 and 2008 is never coming back, but even Joba v.2009 could be (and was, for spurts) a very effective MLB starter. Maybe not an ace, but certainly a 2/3. Unless he’s suffered another shoulder injury, or someone’s gonna make a silly offer, I’d hang on to him.

  • bexarama

    El Duque spazzing out and running into Tony Womack was truly the greatest moment of the 2001 World Series.

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

    2010-2011 Knicks (2010 salaries and future money):

    Wilson Chandler: $2,130,481, 1 more year at 3.1M
    Danilo Gallinari: $3,304,560, 2 more years at 9.7M
    Sergio Rodriguez: $2,805,888 (expiring)
    JR Giddens: $1,100,640, 2 more years at 4.9M
    Toney Douglas: $1,071,000, 3 more years at 6.3M
    Bill Walker: $854,389, one more year at 900k
    +
    Eddy Curry: $11,276,863 (expiring)

    My new idea: We’d been trying all along to move Curry’s deal for an expiring contract to get further under the cap, but nobody would touch the deal (since they know he’s a basketball zero). Since we already have enough room under the cap for two max players, but the new problem is we only have a bench but no starters for LeBron+One to play with, why not instead try and use Eddy’s 2011 expiring contract to add a quality player or two THIS summer to fill out the team a little and give the FA max player imports some extra help?

    Who would want Curry? Ideally, a team that isn’t targeting this summer’s free agent market, but next summer’s market (In other words, teams that already are capped out (or close) for the 2010-2011 season and plan on sucking, but have other expiring money for next summer whom they’d love to add Curry’s dead weight to to make a larger splash).

    What would we want? Players who have no more than one or two years on their deals beyond Curry’s, so we’re not really detrimentally affecting our long-term cap considerations, but who can actually play basketball and provide value as part of a bench. Alternatively, someone who would be a legit third scoring option to play with the guys we have wouldn’t be that bad of a trade.

    Also, all these deals must be cap-neutral for the 2010-2011 season so we can make them and still sign two studs.

    So, ideas:

    1.) NYK trades Curry to SAC for G Beno Udrih, G/F Francisco Garcia, and F Joey Dorsey: Udrih is a decent combo guard, and Garcia is a turnover machine but a capable scorer. Dorsey provides rebounding and is dirt cheap. The problem is that both Udrih has 3 more years after this one and Garcia has 4 more; while they’re both making smaller AAVs than Curry and actually contribute basketball wise (making them slightly more re-tradable), the length of those future dollars is prohibitive.

    2.) NYK trades Curry to DET for F Charlie Villanueva and F/C Jason Maxiell: An upgraded version of the above deal. The Pistons are horribly capped out and would love to unload future money; Villanueva has 3 post-Curry years (in the 7-8M range per) and Maxiell has two post-Curry years at 5M each. Neither salary is horrible (they’re both overpaid, but not much) and they’d add nice size/length/post presence to the NYK bench. It’s a little too much money, but it’s not a horrible move.

    3.) NYK trades Curry to GSW for F Corey Maggette and F Kelenna Azubuike: I like this one. Maggette has two post-Curry years at 10M each, Azubuike expires after the year. Adding a slashing wing finisher of Maggette’s caliber to LeBron’s fast break would be a lovely weapon; his salary would be decently sized, but he’d be worth it as the 3rd/4th option, IMO. This makes more sense, though, if we don’t target Joe Johnson as LeBron’s wingman and instead go for Bosh or even Stoudamire.

    4.) NYK trades Curry to TOR for F Hedo Turkoglu and G Sonny Weems: See above. Same concept (turn Curry’s 11M into the third-scoring option for the two incoming max contract players), but less palatable since Hedo is a.) older, b.) more expensive, c.) under contract longer, and d.) not as good as Maggette.

    5.) NYK trades Curry to LAC for G Baron Davis: BOOM. Straight salary dump, holmes. Baron would be an excellent PG here in NYC (he hates losing in LA and he’s MADE for this city) for the LeBron show, and this deal gets the ClipSet out of two more post-Curry years of Baron’s money (at 13M and 14M) so they can start clean with Blake Griffin and Eric Gordon. It works for us, but I doubt the Clips do it (not enough reward without us including some picks, which we won’t and can’t, and they don’t really need to shed salary, they can keep Baron and still add pieces). Still, though… it’s the Clips. Anything is possible.

    Thoughts?

    • donttradecano

      choice 3 please. Azubuike plays great D if im not mistaken and can score.

      So roster looks like this:
      Douglas
      Maggette
      Lebron
      Gallo
      Bosh

      bench
      sergio
      walker
      chandler
      giddens
      Tmac?

    • Mike HC

      No doubt the Knicks should use Curry’s contract as an asset when the time comes, but that is more likely to happen during next seasons trading deadline than this off season. Why would a team want to pay Curry’s contract for the entire season when they could probably get the same deal at next trading deadline and pay him half the amount, considering Curry is going to give you nothing on the court and the guys you named will at least be contributors for their team.

      From the Knicks perspective though, yea, of course they should do that.

      • Mike HC

        I would take choice 5 though, not that the clips would do that deal, as you wrote.

        • Mike HC

          I hate the first two trades. Especially the second one.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

            I think Villanueva and Maxiell would provide solid value to the 2010-2011 Knicks. Especially if they’re playing as essentially the 4-6 options behind LeBron, Bosh/Johnson, Chandler, Gallinari, Walker, etc.

            They’re not as bad as you think. The contracts that really are screwing the Pistons are the Hamilton/Prince/Gordon deals. Villanueva’s only making 7 per, and Maxiell’s making 5 per. For what they can do (if they’re playing with good players like Bron and Bosh), that’s okay.

            • Mike HC

              I hate Villianueva’s game, or lack thereof. Then tack on his pretty bad contract and I just don’t see how that would really be much of a help. I have not done an extensive analysis of the Knicks cap situation for 2011 and beyond if they sign two max players, but I would have to think that just letting Curry’s deal expire would be better than adding Villianueva and Maxiell.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                The problem with evaluating NBA players is how radically different they are when playing with a good player or without one.

                Charlie Villanueva looks pretty pedestrian when the best guy he’s playing with is Tayshaun Prince or Andrew Bogut. If he was LeBron’s wingman, however, he’s getting nothing but open looks and drivable lanes. He’s a MUCH better player if all he has to do is work in space created by a defense keying on an truly elite player.

                • Mike HC

                  I definitely agree that LeBron would make him a much better player offensively. The same would be true for any spot up shooter who can’t create their own shots. Defensively though, he is hopeless.

                  He would be a decent offensive stretch 4 for Lebron coming off the bench, but an absolute sieve on D. Bosh, Gallo and Villanueva as our top three bigs would be atrocious.

                  Maxiell is a tough player but is nothing you can’t find in the second round. Not someone you trade for.

                • Mike HC

                  Atrocious on D I mean.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                  I’ll agree. They’re both better than Eddy Curry, though… that’s all I’m going for here.

                • Mike HC

                  So are me and you I bet :)

                  I see what you are getting that though and I agree too. Lets use Curry’s expiring contract for actual contributors, not just cap space for this off season.

    • Reggie C.

      Could we pull off your trade for Baron Davis is we included Tony Douglas as the needed supplemental piece? I am a fan of Davis’s play and his presence here will definitely excite the Garden faithful. Davis would also give the Knicks some veteran leadership.

      • donttradecano

        Pass if it includes Douglas. Why would we need veteran leadership with lebron and bosh here?

        • Reggie C.

          Douglas is a nice player and has shown to be a solid late 1st round pick. I think Davis simply upgrades the position immediately, and, allows ‘Bron a sound veteran to discuss. I dont think Bosh is leader material though, yes, Bosh is a veteran.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

            I’d happily throw in Douglas if it got us Baron Davis. Curry and Douglas for Baron is totally reasonable, and a Davis-Bron-Chandler-Gallinari-Bosh starting 5 is pimpshit.

            • donttradecano

              but you can not make any of the trades, keep douglas and attempt to sign paul the year after.

              Paul-Bron-Chandler-Gallo-Bosh starting 5 plus a Walker, Sergio,whoever bench is even more pimpshit.

              • donttradecano

                or a Douglas-Bron-Melo-Gallo-Bosh lineup with a Walker, Sergio, Chandler bench. take your pick.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                  I think I could see Paul signing up for the LeBron’s wingman show… Melo, not so much. Melo will want his own team.

                • donttradecano

                  depends what matters more. A ring or his own team.

  • Fabio

    If I may say something,from someone that rarely posts, the memes and inside jokes are not that bad, and probably contribute to a loyal fanbase. But there is some sort of frequent bashing of non-regulars and bullying of other opinions that gets tiresome.

    I´ve seen plenty of regulars mock other posters as stupid and uneducated, and sometimes just make offhand remarks of how they don´t understand the numbers and projections, which is bad in itself, but even worse when you consider that these same regulars really have just an average understanding of these numbers and stats, and frequently misuse the concepts.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

      You make a solid point, sometimes we can be too mean initially (myself included).

      Still, though, in defense of the board regulars, the overwhelming majority of these harsher comments aren’t directed at those newbies (who may or may not have an extensive knowledge of baseball or sabermetrics) but at habitual line-steppers like SBGL or mryankee, guys who don’t simply “have just an average understanding of these numbers and stats, and frequently misuse the concepts” but guys who repeatedly and chronically say horrendously dumb shit and refuse to think or speak clearly but maintain that they’re the geniuses and all that the rest of us are the idiots, despite the fact that we actually took the time to research things and look at them calmly and dispassionately without bias or preconception.

      Newbies can get caught in that crossfire, and that’s wrong and we need to check ourselves if/when we do that. But I’ll only apologize so far for blasting SBGL for being an idiot. Some shit is self-evident.

      • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

        “habitual line-steppers”

        Chappelle ftmfw.

      • pete

        that. people do eventually get tired of making cogent, cohesive arguments in response to the opinions of certain fellows only to have their entire arguments (which are almost exclusively, at least for the regulars, evidenced by factual data) dismissed in entirety the next time said person wants to make the same exact argument.

        people take time to listen to opinions, and they take time to respond. It gets really frustrating when those responses are ignored entirely. Nobody wants to be a jerk about it, but it’s understandable when it happens when people won’t make adjustments in their arguments to further the discussion, but rather opt for passively belligerent assertion of their own higher correctness via repetition of the same previously debunked notions. also, just as some masquerade opinion as fact, others mistake fact for opinion. this is incredibly annoying.

        I realize that there are times when some of the regs here (myself included) reach levels of borderline condescension towards others, but it’s not a superiority complex thing, and I do know that all of us try our absolute best to avoid being harsh to new commenters. But there are people who seemingly can’t be convinced of ANYTHING that wasn’t their original opinion. This is maddening. Why bother reading a blog if you already know all the right answers anyway? I can guarantee you that any of the regulars (including the RABbis) have been convinced of something with which they originally disagreed, because when you are constantly discussing things and actually listening to what others have to say, your opinions are bound to change, because nobody is right 100% of the time. It’s only the people who believe they are who get trashed, and even when they do, it’s not nearly as bad as on most other blogs, as personal attacks will get you an immediate ban here.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

          I realize that there are times when some of the regs here… reach levels of borderline condescension towards others, but it’s not a superiority complex thing…

          I am awesome, though, and I do have a huge cock. The ladies love me. I’m not apologizing for any of that either.

        • Kevin G.

          /pete’d (again)

    • Mike HC

      The first time I ever posted was last spring training, after I saw Joba’s decreased velocity.

      I posted something saying that Joba has lost his velocity from last year and I was “concerned.”

      Little did I know, since I just started reading/commenting, the regulars here already had conversation after conversation about Joba’s velocity and ripped me for using a spring training start to judge his velocity. (He was at around 90, even high 80′s when I made the comment, so Joba did get some of the velocity back, just not all of it).

      Part of the problem is that the regulars can get sick of talking/commenting about the same topics, so when a fresh poster, posts the same arguments that have been thrown around for weeks, the regulars can get restless.

      • pete

        that

    • Cecala

      Honestly, I started reading RAB in January, and it only took me a week to get caught up with all meme’s in this forum. Once I finally started getting them, it made this forum a lot funnier. I would wait for Bo to post so I can enjoy the comments afterwards. The meme’s are not bad, they take a little time to get used to but are worth it in the end.

  • http://theyankeeu.com Moshe Mandel

    On the whole Joba-Hughes-Aceves debate above, I crowdsourced the numbers on Twitter last night, and then ran the projections. Statistically, any of the three options is within a few runs of the other over a full season, so it makes sense to make the decision based on developmental concerns.

    http://www.theyankeeu.com/2010.....te-2-15847

    • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

      it makes sense to make the decision based on developmental concerns.

      Very well put, and nice work. If you could guarantee Ace would be 5% better than Joba or Phil in the rotation, you likely wouldn’t do it due to the developmental concerns. And the thing is, you can’t guarantee that, so all things being equal (and for now they are), you lean towards what helps the 2011-2016 Yankees without hurting the 2010 Yankees.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

      Agreed. As awesome as Hughes or Joba may look in the bullpen, the difference between one of them in the 8th and Aceves/Robertson/Marte/Park in the next tier of bullpen leverage above them isn’t that much different than Aceves/Robertson/Marte/Park in the 8th alone.

      Meanwhile, the difference between Aceves as the 5th starter and Joba/Hughes as the fifth starter is probably a wash if we get mediocre/bad Joba or Hughes, but it can be a large difference if we get good Joba/Hughes.

      If, say, Hughes was eliminated and it was only an even flip-flop of Joba 5th starter/Aceves 7th inning/Robertson 8th inning v. Aceves 5th starter/Joba 8th inning/Robertson 7th inning, the slight downgrade of the Robertson/Aceves bullpen is well worth the gamble on the upside of the Joba starter.

      Add the loser of the Joba/Hughes race into the bullpen, though, and it’s a slam dunk. All three pitchers can be dominant relievers. All three can be effective 5th starters. Only two of them can be elite relievers, but only two of them can be elite starters, either. Ace isn’t either an elite starter or an elite reliever; that means he should be eliminated from either the 5th starter role or the 8th inning role and should go to mid-leverage innings in the pen.

      It’s either Joba or Hughes for the 5th starter, the loser to the 8th inning, and then both of them to the rotation in 2011. Aceves is a bullpen guy. A great one, sure, but a bullpen guy.

  • bexarama
  • Jim S

    I would venture to guess most of the lurkers, such as myself, are somewhere in between. I definitely think the memes and movie quotes, even while applicable, have hijacked most of the discussions.

    And I think Mike’s mostly asking for patience. If someone doesn’t know how to use the reply button or doesn’t use proper grammar/sentence structure, ask them nicely once. If they get rude and abrasive, ignore them. But don’t get into a flame war.

    Would it be a terrible idea to bookmark a link to a fantastic description of why Joba/Phil are better suited to become starters, with the intent of posting said link when someone asks why that’s we believe? Then, instead of hijacked threads, someone replies with a simple, “This has been a huge topic of conversation, why don’t you read the exchange we had previously, and then ask questions if you don’t understand something?” and post the link.

    Dunno, seems like it could be a time and space saver. In an ideal world. And if they’re unwilling to read the description, I think ignoring them is a fair response. But the constant whining and name-calling and bashing of the less-enlightened is an absolute turn-off to a lot of new readers, and I have to guess it annoys some of the regulars too.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

      Would it be a terrible idea to bookmark a link to a fantastic description of why Joba/Phil are better suited to become starters, with the intent of posting said link when someone asks why that’s we believe? Then, instead of hijacked threads, someone replies with a simple, “This has been a huge topic of conversation, why don’t you read the exchange we had previously, and then ask questions if you don’t understand something?” and post the link.

      That’s a fair idea.

      In fact, perhaps we should do some preseason posts along the lines of “Why Great Debate X that has been discussed ad nauseam should be settled fact” posts one last time to let people get their ideas out, and then serve as the new, fresh, re-settled posts of record outlining why we as board regulars think what we think.

      • http://theyankeeu.com Moshe Mandel

        I’ll present this as a good “why Joba should be in the rotation” primer (yes, I’m pimping my own work, that’s how it’s done!!).

        http://www.theyankeeu.com/2010.....lain-15687

      • Jim S

        This would definitely work for me.

  • http://www.progressamericana.com/ Pablo Zevallos

    Thoughts on this fantasy team? H2H category (12 batting, 12 pitching), 11 teams:

    C McCann
    1B Swish
    2B Phillips
    3B A-Rod
    SS Tulo
    OF Bruce
    OF Borbon
    OF Hawpe
    UTIL Stewart
    UTIL Nicky J
    UTIL Napoli

    SP Greinke
    SP JJ
    SP Jimenez
    SP Kershaw
    SP Anderson
    SP Wade Davis
    SP Dempster
    SP Cahill
    SP Feliz

    BN Stubbs
    BN Chris Young the hitter
    BN Peralta
    BN Blanks

  • Accent Shallow

    Reasons I can’t wait for Opening Day, #57:

    So people stop posting their fantasy teams.

    Don’t care!

    • bexarama

      ietc

  • nycornerstone

    lol people just love writing down the names

  • pete

    boo on the meme/inside joke cutbacks. I think that they help make RAB as awesome as it is.

  • nycornerstone

    if posada goes down will yanks trade jesus to the twins for joe mauer

    • Kevin G.

      Yep, and then they’ll trade McAllister for Halladay.

      • bexarama

        Golson and Winn for Grady Sizemore too. I mean, we’re gonna need a bat in LF, duh.

        • Kevin G.

          Throw in Igawa and you have a deal.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

      See, this is what I’m talking about.

      Habitual line stepper. No punctuation, no capitalization, refuses to use the reply button, no real logical thought to the post. And not a newbie either; nycornerstone does this all the time.

      This is infantile, and posts like that don’t deserve mercy or kid gloves. Posts like this deserve to be excoriated.

      • http://www.progressamericana.com/ Pablo Zevallos

        “Habitual line stepper”

        I love the Chappelle reference there

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

          Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

          • http://www.progressamericana.com/ Pablo Zevallos

            What did the five fingers say to the face?

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

          BTW, the fact that Charlie Murphy’s present career is now actually more promising/lucrative than Eddie Murphy’s present career is pretty hilarious.

          Did you know that Charlie’s gonna be in something called “Freaknik: The Musical”? No, really.

          Peruse the cast list:
          http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1535989

          Are you excited as shit for this project? I know I am. I mean, seriously, a movie about Freaknik? A MUSICAL ABOUT FREAKNIK? Yes.

          Yes.

          • http://www.progressamericana.com/ Pablo Zevallos

            No, I did not.

            This T.V. series. I am WATCHING IT.

            • http://www.progressamericana.com/ Pablo Zevallos

              Apparently, it’s a one-time thing. Either way, I will watch it.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                It’s on iTunes. Only cost 3 bucks. I just bought it, I’ll tell you how it is in a bit.

                • http://www.progressamericana.com/ Pablo Zevallos

                  That’d be awesome. The best way to let me know is through Twitter (I think we follow each other) so I don’t have to be digging back to find this thread tomorrow morning.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                  Copy.

      • http://iheartrerun.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/rerun.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

        … Or we can just all Operation: SHUTDOWN this stuff, and put an end to the awful threadjacking that goes on constantly.

  • nycornerstone

    since mauers a free agent in 11 jesus and joba should do it

    • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

      1. Not enough.
      2. Mauer is not leaving Minnesota.
      3. Hells no.

  • nycornerstone

    fine me pops, maybe im just a kid

  • Jay

    Good evening, all.

    Can someone please post the link to the Yankee Stadium seat selector? I bookmarked it previously, but MLB (or the Yankees) changed the destination.

    Thanks in advance.

    BTW, I hope everyone was able to purchase (extra) Opening Day tickets today.

  • 28 next year

    To fix the repeated posts, just ignore what people say. I am not a regular but I show up occasionly but I read like everything. Just don’t respond and those people will understand what they are asking has probably been answered and will get the message. Eventually they will stop asking the same question and the comments will be less cluttered. There is nothing saying you have to respond to everything.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

      I’ll agree with you in general, but some of these clowns that we ignore don’t go away. They keep popping up, like Whack-A-Mole. They don’t “stop asking the same question” and they DO keep cluttering the comments.

      • Jim S

        The problem though, is that our replies then further clutter the comments. It’s a vicious cycle.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

          Good point.

  • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

    So today at school I get ridiculed by every Yankee AND Mets fan for saying Joba will have breakthrough year and why his innings limits were necessary. I was called the biggest retard in the school who only agrees with the Yankees because I’m a bandwagoner.

    Should I start writing my “HAHA I’M RIGHT BOW DOWN TO ME SPEECH?”

    • JGS

      you should switch schools

  • thurdonpaul

    i just have my 2 cents to put in as far as the regulars at times kinda bashing the newbies and/or those that do not comment often.

    i have alot more important things that im thinking of then worrying about perfect grammer and puncuation on a baseball blog site, in my mind this is an escape from normal everyday pressures, if it can not be enjoyable to post here without fear of ridicule i dont see the point. i know my grammer is not perfect, but i believe it is good enough to get my point across and i dont see the need to harass people for mispelling or other minor issues.

    i believe pretty much everyone of us here are yankee fans, we should be able to figure out a way for all of us to enjoy the terrific work the RABbis do here.

    thank you.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

      You put forth an effort, even if it’s small. Effort goes a long way. You’re good with me.

      • thurdonpaul

        mr tsjc, your a good egg sir

        • Mike HC

          your basically a regular in my book. i see you’re comments all the time.

    • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

      All Drew said is spell correctly. He did not say it in a condescending tone he simply asked for correct spelling on at least the NAME.

      Then dan proceeded to be insulting in response. Grammar doesn’t need to be 100 percent but at least give some thought onto it so it’s legible.

      • thurdonpaul

        i wasnt responding to anyone in particular, just in general.

        i do enjoy this site very much, for the most part you regulars here are a very good group with great knowledge of the yankees, i would love to see that knowledge be used in a more pleasant way. thats my humble opinion.

    • http://www.brooklynvegan.com/img/music2/nyspringsteen.jpg E Street Shuffle

      Yeah I agree. I think that this site is pretty much a place to come, read hopefully smart well thought out arguments regarding our beloved yankees. The funny inside jokes and meme’s are should just be in compliment to the yankee info. If some one wants has an argument that others disagree with, as long as its well thought out and not complete bullshit, let them put their two cents in.

      I would agree that its slightly off putting when you don’t comment much. I certainly am not a regular, but once you post once or twice, I mean, the regulars that people say “bash” non-regulars human beings, not comment nazi’s.

      it is what is (words to live by)

      • http://www.brooklynvegan.com/img/music2/nyspringsteen.jpg E Street Shuffle

        The jokes and meme’s are

    • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templeton_Peck Templeton “brendog” Peck

      eh if someone gets on me a bout punctuation i tell em to eff off…but no one does, cause even though i dont give a shit about spelling or grammer i make cohesive well thought out rational points.

      it really does go a long way. even if your points are batshit insane but you have tangible evidence to back ti up it at least has to be discussed

  • http://www.brooklynvegan.com/img/music2/nyspringsteen.jpg E Street Shuffle

    Also the guys name who took that photo is Bebeto. Short for something or just plain odd?

  • Accent Shallow

    I am not a scout (which plays a poor second fiddle to my favorite Internet acronym: I Am Not A Lawyer), but from watching Montero’s swing in the ST games/highlight videos, I’m a little less excited than I was previously.

    He’s really going to hit for power on the MLB level with that?

    • Mike HC

      I am not a scout either, but from watching Montero’s swing in spring training I am more excited.

  • bexarama

    oh Hawk Harrelson. I missed you so much. HE GONE!!!

  • Stephen in Brazil

    Every American male needs to go to Brazil. You don’t need any game, you only need to be American. It is fantastic.

  • Tom Zig

    I have the 8th pick out of 12 in my fantasy league. Ugh. Is there a worse pick than that?

    Any advice on who to take first if available?

  • Cecala

    Is it just me, or are the Lakers never able to cover their spread? I made an initiative to always bet against the Lakers and I have been winning more. After watching spreads and basketball, its amazing to see why Kobe has all those buzzer beaters.