Mar
23

Open Thread: The best in New York

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Later tonight on MSG, a new original series with an interactive fantasy game component entitled The Lineup: New York’s All-Time Best Baseball Players will make its debut. The idea is simple and one that baseball fans can appreciate: A panel of sports analysts will debate the best players in New York history.

Tonight’s episode — the first of ten — will focus on the backstops. Which catcher is the best in the storied history of New York’s baseball past? The Yankees, Mets, Giants and Dodgers all have plenty to offer, but Yogi Berra should probably come out on top. Tonight’s panelists set to debate something we often discuss here include Gary Carter, Sparky Lyle, Will Leitch of Deadspin fame and Elias Sports Bureau’s Steve Hirdt. Fran Healy will moderate the discussion. At the end of the pisode, the top player at each position will be named to the “Lineup.” See what they did there?

In conjunction with the TV show, fans can follow along online at the show’s website and nominate their own baseball greats. As the panel names its top five at each position, online participants earn points for each correct guess, and a few lucky will win some baseball memorabilia each week. The first episode airs tonight at 10:30 p.m., and this week’s prize is a ball signed by Donnie Baseball himself.

Meanwhile, here’s your open thread. You know the drill. The Knicks are in action tonight, and the Devils are playing right now. LOST is new as well. Be good to each other.

Categories : Open Thread
  • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

    Red Sox Twins on MLBN

    • bexarama

      apparently Buchholz walked a guy then threw like four consecutive wild pitches or something? TO THE PEN!!!

      • bexarama

        oh actually:
        1.2 IP, 6 R (5 ER), 4 H, 4 BB, 3 WP

        If Joba did that I don’t think the Post would allow him to live.

        • Accent Shallow

          Still not sure Buchholz will have a worthwhile career as a starter.

          /definitely wearing pinstriped glasses here

          • http://www.soxandpinstripes.com JGS

            and yet

            Buccholz (starter only): 186.2 IP, 4.97 ERA, 4.69 FIP, 1.500 WHIP, .759 OPS against, .310 BAbip

            Joba (starter only): 221.2 IP, 4.18 ERA, 1.480 WHIP, .759 OPS against, .322 BAbip

            too lazy to calculate out Joba’s starter only FIP (Buchholz has just 4 relief innings, I figure his overall FIP is close enough to starter)

            • http://www.soxandpinstripes.com JGS

              Buchholz, that is

            • Accent Shallow

              I’m mostly basing this off second and third-hand scouting reports, where Buchholz’s trouble is locating his fastball. Very tough to win pitching backwards.

              Half-hearted attempt to use numbers:

              Joba has 160 more PA as a starter, and has allowed 1 more home run. Joba has a better K/BB ratio, 2.04 to 1.88. Additionally, Buchholz hasn’t had a run of success in the majors as impressive as Joba’s 2008. Joba is also a full year younger.

              Like I said, I’m absolutely wearing homer-glasses here, but I’d rather have Joba, even if the big fastball never comes back.

  • WIlliam

    In my 12 team Yahoo league, I have succesfully traded Josh Johnson and Rafael Furcal for Scott Kazmir and Hanley Ramirez.

    I now still have a good starting staff of Lee, Hirokuda, Kazmir, and Blackburn, plus awesomeness with

    c- Martinez
    1- Ortiz
    2- Pedroia
    3- Young
    SS- Ramirez
    OF- Braun
    OF- Victorino
    OF- Burbon
    U-Loney

    • WIlliam

      Kuroda, not Hirokuda, my bad.

    • WIlliam

      Forgot to say Pineiro was my 5th starter.

    • Tom Zig

      1- The corpse of David Ortiz

      FTFY

      • WIlliam

        You say his 2nd half right?

    • Dirty Pena

      Call me a dick or whatever, but by posting fantasy teams, you’re asking for an honest assessment: this team is pretty bad.

      • WIlliam

        I’m OK with an honest assessment, but can you explain your opinion some more

        • Dirty Pena

          OK, I think you are going to have a lot of trouble with power. You’re looking at 170 HR (MAX) with that lineup, which in a 12 team league of that set-up is probably bottom 4. I just feel like you have below average to bad power guys at too many spots (2 OF, Util, 3B) where these things are needed at least somewhat. There’s a severe lack of K’s given that your 4 and 5 are both below 4.5 K/9 and Lee and Kuroda are both at or below 7. The one K guy you do have (Kazmir) will destroy your WHIP. You are really good in some areas (steals, runs) but unfortunately you can only max out at 12 points per category and I don’t think you have enough in the other categories to win.

          • Dirty Pena

            Then again, I haven’t seen your bench/closers, and given the trade you pulled off, I’d have optimism about the competition and their use of the waiver wire.

          • WIlliam

            Doesn’t the category thing only happen in Rottisire leagues? Maybe I’m misinterpreting head to head matchup.

            • Dirty Pena

              Is it 1-0 for the week? Or like 5-4-1?

              • WIlliam

                Not really sure what that means, I play one team a week.

          • WIlliam

            This is my entire team-

            Víctor Martínez
            (Bos – C,1B)
            97% -/- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
            1B
            David Ortiz
            (Bos – 1B)
            64% -/- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
            2B
            Dustin Pedroia
            (Bos – 2B)
            97% -/- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
            3B
            Michael Young
            (Tex – 3B)
            88% -/- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
            SS
            Rafael Furcal
            (LAD – SS)
            54% -/- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
            OF
            Ryan Braun
            (Mil – OF)
            98% -/- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
            OF
            Shane Victorino
            (Phi – OF)
            87% -/- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
            OF
            Julio Borbón
            (Tex – OF)
            59% -/- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
            Util
            James Loney
            (LAD – 1B)
            36% -/- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
            BN
            Nick Johnson
            (NYY – 1B)
            9% -/- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
            BN
            J.D. Drew
            (Bos – OF)
            18% -/- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
            BN
            Magglio Ordóñez
            (Det – OF)
            22% -/- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
            BN
            Maicer Izturis
            (LAA – 2B,SS)
            26% -/- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
            BN
            Scott Podsednik
            (KC – OF)
            9% -/- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
            BN
            Milton Bradley
            (Sea – OF)
            3% -/- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
            BN
            Brett Gardner
            (NYY – OF)
            3% -/- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

            Cliff Lee
            (Sea – SP)
            93% - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
            SP
            Josh Johnson
            (Fla – SP)
            95% - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
            SP
            Hiroki Kuroda
            (LAD – SP)
            60% - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
            SP
            Nick Blackburn
            (Min – SP)
            7% - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
            SP
            Joel Piñeiro
            (LAA – SP)
            21% - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
            RP
            Phil Hughes
            (NYY – SP,RP)
            45% - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
            RP
            Mike Adams
            (SD – RP)
            43% - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
            RP
            Jason Frasor
            (Tor – RP)
            19% - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

            • Dirty Pena

              OK, well after the trade I guess your hitting could get it done in H2H. I’d still be wary of weak pitching.

              • Jeeves

                I agree with you Dirty, that team would get smoked in my league.

  • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

    So has anybody seen the Swish/Buchholz commercial yet?

    • WIlliam

      What commercial is that?

      • http://www.soxandpinstripes.com JGS
        • WIlliam

          Who’s sitting next to Clay?

          • VO

            It looks like the brother from step brothers.

            • Christos

              I recognized the guy from step brothers, but not bucholz

            • http://www.yfsf.org AndrewYF

              Adam Scott. Watch the Showtime show ‘Party Down’ and thank me later.

              • Andy In Sunny Daytona

                It’s on Starz, not Showtime. Funny as hell.

        • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

          Hahaha. That was good.

    • Jose
    • ultimate913

      I posted it in the off-topic thread. I guess no one saw it.

    • Dirty Pena

      Most important part of that commercial: before he says “I’m Jon Miller,” he says “Orel Hershiser”…could it be?!?

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        Yeah, Orel’s on ESPN’s Sunday night broadcasts, taking Steve Phillips’ place. They did the Mets-Braves game today.

        • Dirty Pena

          Dammit! Not what I was hoping for. I completely forgot they had a 3 man booth last year.

  • Accent Shallow

    Anyone as complete burnt out on the fifth starter competition as I am? I just hope the loser works multiple innings, and is ready to go to the rotation if necessary.

    I’ll burst a few blood vessels if Chan Ho Park or Aceves or Ivan Nova is making starts instead of Chamberlain/Hughes.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

      I’m just disappointed that Pawlikowski had a post up all afternoon called “Pleading the Fifth” and nobody corrected him.

      You don’t “plead” the fifth. You invoke your Fifth Amendment rights.

      You either plead guilty or not guilty (or plead no lo contendre, but I digest). There’s no other pleading.

      Come on, all these law nerds here and NOBODY SAID ANYTHING?!?!??!

      • ultimate913

        I’m more disappointed that no one made a reference to this Chappelle Show skit.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rissm5YHJQg

      • pat

        I thought it was more of a Chappelle “FIF” reference.

        ONE
        TWO
        THREE
        FOUR
        FIF!!

        • Mike Pop

          Awesome.

      • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

        http://www.pp2g.tv/vYH1-Y3U_.aspx

        1, 2, 3, 4, fiifffff

      • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

        You’re right, but what he said is the common usage. Most colloquialisms don’t make much sense when taken literally, but everyone understands what is being conveyed.

      • Jose

        Where is Ben? SOMEBODY FIND BEN!!!!

      • kunaldo

        If I had access to youtube @ work, I’d link The Chappelle Show episode, where he “pleads the fizzif,” b/c that’s how I would say it too(because of that skit).

        Alas…

      • Mike HC

        Pleading the Fifth has become accepted slang though. So Joe really did not make a mistake using that phrase. I doubt he was going for the correct legal jargon there.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

          We’re law nerds; WE CORRECT SHIT.

          • ultimate913

            Is shit really better off being corrected?

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

              (thinks)

              Yes.

              • Jeeves

                Pleading the Fifth has become accepted slang though. So Joe really did not make a mistake using that phrase. I doubt he was going for the correct legal jargon there.

                This.

                • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

                  I’m just disappointed that Pawlikowski had a post up all afternoon called “Pleading the Fifth” and nobody corrected him.

                  You all should go back and check to see the author on that post. I’m just sayin’.

    • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

      If it’s just a few starts I don’t expect Joba/Hughes to step in. If it’s a really serious injury they should and likely would be moved but I have a bad feeling there’s a good chance they stay there too.

  • Andy In Sunny Daytona

    Sad day on the Yankee farm…..Marvelous Seth Fortenberry was released today.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

      (clutches heart)

      MY SWEET JEFF!!!

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

        First we lose the Attorney General, now we lose the Representative.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Fortenberry

        Today is a day that will live in infamy.

        • thurdonpaul

          tommie, dont clutch that other thing your so proud of.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

            I’d need a spotter anyway.

            • thurdonpaul

              lol, you must be like my bro-in-law, he says he gets yardons not hardons

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                During weather-related national disasters, I join FEMA to serve as a bridge support.

                • thurdonpaul

                  Where the hell were you during Katrina ? They needed your help sir.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                  The Superdome is still standing.

                  You’re welcome.

                • thurdonpaul

                  Your a good man Tommie.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                  I give because I love.

    • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

      Do we have any other farmhands with fruits in their last name?

      • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

        Just checked, nothing.

        Closest thing we have to a food is Jack Rye Bread in Tampa.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

          I believe “Croussett” translates to “delicious kumquats” in Tongan.

      • Dirty Pena

        Reegie “put a lime in your” Corona?

        /Berman’d

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Forget Frankenberry. They released Chris Malec as well. For shame.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

        The writing was on the wall when he didn’t get an ST invite.

      • Andy In Sunny Daytona

        Is that really that sad? He’ll be 28 this year and has had less than 70 at bats in AAA.

  • CS Yankee

    Missed out on the 5th starter talks today but in doing research on based opinion, insider information and MSM facts I offer the following;

    Joba
    1) Second all-time Yankee great in grunts-n-farts behind Clemens (note: most won’t count Clemens record due to his use of Icy-Hot on the boyz between innings).
    2) Has irked fellow teammates in cutting in front of CC on several post-game buffet lines.
    3) Started mid-season to shake off Posada in an attempt to befriend AJ and learn how to pie teammates.
    4) Is more prepared to handle the load due to innings pitched in 2009.
    5) Is Hank’s main claim to fame in the “right” department when he said it was stupid to have him as a setup guy versus a SP.

    Phil
    1) Is very eco-friendly
    2) Impressed front office in not coming out of his trailer to talk to the MSM during the Johan trade days.
    3) Like Andy, will throw anything Posada signals
    4) As a fifth starter, he can go all year whereas the 5th guy will only get 25 starts (25 times 6 IP equals 150…or 25 @ 7 IP equals 175).
    5) Injured himself to avoid facing the Rangers lineup a third time through his no-hitter a few years ago (non grit indicator)

    Am I missing something (besides an Pinstripe Ace Cerveza with a lime wedge)?

    • pat

      Heh, that about sums it up. Nice.

    • pete

      ‘fraid you forgot phil’s cow-in-a-meadow mentality, my friend. i’ll be taking that cerveza thank you very much. here’s your DFA IPA…sorry

      • CS Yankee

        thought the eco-friendly covered that?

        • pete

          eh, not specific enough. cow-in-a-meadow has NOT been getting nearly enough attention lately, and that situation clearly called for some love.

          • CS Yankee

            You beer stealing bastard!

      • pete

        also, “an Pinstripe”…aesthetic errors FTL. sorry bro

        /Pinstripe Aceves Cervezas Nazi’d

        • CS Yankee

          My bad,
          thought it would get noted….as I threw in Pinstripe just prior to sending.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

      Am I missing something (besides an Pinstripe Ace Aceves Cerveza with a lime wedge)?

      Fixed.

      /buildingthebrand’d

      • CS Yankee

        Is that also available in the bomber size (22oz) bottle?

        If so, I’ll take two!

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

          We call it the Pinstripe Aceves Cerveza Muy Borracho™.

          • CS Yankee

            Classic marketing!

            Please explain why the India Pale Ale is a DFA?

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

              We actually have three IPA varieties.

              Pinstripe DFA IPA™
              Pinstripe IFA IPA™
              Pinstripe IPK IPA™ (closeout, quantities limited)

              I hope that helps.

              • CS Yankee

                It all bitter

              • Andy In Sunny Daytona

                The IFA IPA is delicious, but Axisa refuses to try it.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                  That racist bastard.

                • Andy In Sunny Daytona

                  Well it is mostly brewed in the D.R., but some of the batches that are made in Venezuela are awesome. I think it’s the Socialist water down there.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

    1) Thoughts on the new NFL overtime rules?

    2) My fantasy team via autodraft (excepting rounds 1-4)

    Mauer, Cuddyer, Hill, Stewart, Andrus, Cruz, Rasmus, Drew, Ortiz, Wells, C. Young

    F. Hernandez, J. Johnson, Porcello, Joba, Kawakami, Qualls, Lilly, Lohse, Richard, Lyon.

    Thoughts?

    • pete

      what’s scary is the yankees actual team is probably better than that team. by like, kindof a lot.

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

        Haha. I completley, utterly, and totally don’t care about this league. Thus, autodraft.

        • pete

          oh not meant so much as an insult as much as a “holy fuckballs the yankees are better than an autodrafted fantasy team” observation

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

    http://www.baylorbears.com/spo.....eth00.html

    PERSONAL
    •Full name is Jeffrey Seth Fortenberry
    •Born Sept. 1, 1983, in Woodville, Texas
    •Son of Jeff and Becky Fortenberry
    •Has a twin sister, Nicole
    •Father also attended Baylor
    •Chose Baylor over Texas A&M, Rice and Tulane
    •Majoring in history
    •Can complete a Rubic’s Cube in less than three minutes

    He can solve a Rubic’s Cube in three minutes? WE GAVE THAT TALENT AWAY?!?!?!??!

    That’s it, I’m cancelling [sic] my tickets.

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

      Pfft, I knew someone that could do it n 1:50

      • pete

        i can do it in .2 seconds just by looking at it with my eyes closed

    • pete

      not only that, but he’s been BA’s “Best Outfield Arm” for the yanks’ system for 28 years in a row now. He almost had the record.

    • Jose

      R-U-B-I-K

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

        I know, I know… it’s Baylor.

        • Jose

          I couldn’t resist.

    • Andy In Sunny Daytona

      Worst of all, the Fortenberry/Wordekemper trade, will never go down.

      • Thomas

        Maybe Fortenberry will sign with another team and the Yankees can trade Wordekemper for Fortenberry.

    • Johan Iz My Brohan

      He can solve a Rubic’s Cube in three minutes? WE GAVE THAT TALENT AWAY?!?!?!??!

      What?

      • Andy In Sunny Daytona

        Also getting the ax today were Chris Malec, Mike Lyon, Isaac Harrow, Julian Arballo, Griffin Bailey, Buck Afenir, Dan Miller and Paul Heidler.

        I’m pretty sure I’ve never heard of Griffin Bailey.

        • Johan Iz My Brohan

          Linkage? and that sucks for Harrow I think we just drafted him last year.

          • pat

            Lyon too.

          • Andy In Sunny Daytona

            http://www.theinternets.com

            Really though, I read it on another site.

            • Andy In Sunny Daytona

              BTW, I have no idea where that will take you, so, go at your own risk.

        • Accent Shallow

          Damn, I follow the farm system pretty closely (Thanks Mike!) and I don’t really remember any of these guys.

  • Johan Iz My Brohan

    King Felix and Longo for Matt Cain, Chris Perez. Chipper, and Berkman

    Should I accept it? (I have King Felix and Longo)

    • pete

      i would have to assume NO

    • Alex S

      i wouldn’t accept

    • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

      Cain will regress. He’ll be good but he’ll definitely regress. Longo is the second best 3B in the MLB and 3B is not a real deep position.

      I wouldn’t do it.

    • CS Yankee

      King Felix is a top 5 pitcher, Longo top 2 3B
      versus
      Top 15 P….with whatnots & has-beens?

      NO

  • pete

    god i hate non-mac keyboards/mousepads

    • pete

      *mousepads is the wrong word i think. i just hate having to click a separate button from the one my thumb is on. pisses me the fuck off. apple is making me more and more incapable of dealing with life outside of apple.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

        apple is making me more and more incapable of dealing with life outside of apple.

        /masterplan’d

        • kunaldo

          It worked on me too. Using a regular laptop is no fun.

  • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

    Haha. Span could’ve walked to second and stolen the bag. Captain America ftw.

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    I’m writing my first paper in almost a year. This is going to hurt.

    • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

      Nah. It’s like riding a bike. Just get in the flow.

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

      Heh. Shudda dropped out like someone we know ;)

      • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

        UConn told me to never quit. Apparently, you didn’t get that message in upstate NY.

        • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

          Oh, upstate New York wasn’t an issue. It was those damn Jesuits in the Bronx…

          • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

            Sure it was. ;)

    • bexarama

      ouchies

  • Zack

    http://profootballtalk.nbcspor...../#comments

    “At the Scouting Combine, the Wonderlic exam is administered to players in groups. The 12-minute test is preceded by some brief instructions and comments from the person administering the test.

    Per a league source, after the person administering the test to Tebow’s group had finished, Tebow made a request that the players bow their heads in prayer before taking the 50-question exam.

    Said one of the other players in response: “Shut the f–k up.” Others players in the room then laughed.”

    • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

      Haha. Love it.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

      Per a league source, after the person administering the test to Tebow’s group had finished, Tebow made a request that the players bow their heads in prayer before taking the 50-question exam.

      I can’t believe that actually happened. I know Tebow’s a super-passionate (borderline intrusive) acolyte, but that story seems apocryphal. I doubt he would actually interrupt the Wonderlic and call for a prayer before a test of people who weren’t his friends or teammates.

      I call bullshit.

      • Zack

        It didn’t say he interrupted the person, it said after the person was finished. You can’t see the person asking, “Ok, any questions?” And Tebow making that request?

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

          Nah, not really.

          What probably happened, IMO: After the proctor finished his instructions, Tebow asked for a moment for silent, individual prayer. Which is a fine request.

          I just can’t see Tebow asking other guys he doesn’t know and isn’t the captain of to all collectively bow their heads for a group prayer.

          I’m still skeptical.

          • Thomas

            This was my thought he probably asked for a moment of prayer for himself and others, if they so desired.

          • Zack

            That would be a subtle way of doing it- from everything I’ve seen about Tebow, he is not subtle. I find the story amusing either way.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

              I agree that he’s not subtle, but this is just dumb, too dumb. Not even Tebow is this dumb.

          • Jeeves

            What probably happened, IMO

            No, that is not what happened. Read the article.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

              I read the article. It’s unsourced and uncorroborated. I don’t believe it. If I’m proven wrong and it’s corroborated, I’ll happily admit that I was wrong.

      • CS Yankee

        I call 5th round availability for Tebow

      • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

        I don’t know, man. He ends every interview with “God bless” doesn’t he? Most of the time, that’s with complete strangers so I wouldn’t be shocked if he did the same thing on a bigger scale.

        Again, fantastic use of a vocab word.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

          Leading a team prayer as captain of the Gators: understandable
          Ending an interview with a religious statement of praise to your god: understandable

          Asking the guy who’s conducting part of your job interview to stop doing what he’s doing for a moment so you can organize an impromptu, unscheduled, not-previously arranged mass religious prayer of a bunch of other guys you don’t know who are also applying for a job and probably either aren’t religious or aren’t publicly so, and inviting the uncomfortable religious discussion that would ensue and giving the guys conducting the job interview questions about your leadership and decisionmaking skills for such a wacky and ill-conceived idea: bizarre to the point that it probably didn’t happen

          I disagree with Tim Tebow about some things, but I don’t think he’s a total idiot. And calling for a group prayer before the Wonderlic at the combine would be an idiotic move.

          Still think it’s bullshit. I want more corroboration of this story.

      • Elwood

        Hey, Tommy- You do realize Tim’s passion for his faith has help nspire and achieve far more than you’ll ever accomplish right? I know you hate anyone showing faith- because I just love watching you leftists foam at the mout. Also, your close-minded little mind can’t comprehend how anyone can use that dumb ole’ Christianity for good purposes. Get over it, Tommy… Timmy is the real deal and hero to all…. except bitter and intolerent athetists like yourself. You sir are full of bullshit.

        • Meat Loaf

          I hope that made you feel better. I have read here for awhile, and TSJC generally brings one of the most sane arguments to the table. You are just angry that you feel your religion was insulted, and I don’t think that is what Tommy was saying at all. But alas, you needed an excuse to be a dick and try and piss someone off ove the internet. Well good for you, you look like a douche.

          Now, let us take a look at your argument just a wee bit.

          Timmy is the real deal – Last I knew, there were serious doubts about his ability to be a NFL player.
          Timmy is a hero to all – Not me. -1.
          Bitter and Intolerant – I consider Tommy to be funny and quite open minded.

          And Tommy is not full of bullshit. You, sir, can go fuck yourself, because RAB does not need people like you.

          So says The Loaf.

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

      I badly want it to be true but I’m going to also call bullshit.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

      Said one of the other players in response: “Shut the f–k up.” Others players in the room then laughed.”

      Another reason why this story seems bullshit.

      Who would respond in this way? If you were in a job interview and some religious nutjob asked all the applicants to pray together, would you respond with a public “shut the fuck up”? Do you think your potential employers would look well upon this action and give you bonus points for taking a principled stand? Or would they dock you for not being able to respond in an intelligent manner and for being needlessly profane?

      And the “league source” drops Tebow’s name but not the name of the player who said “Shut the f–k up”? Why not? I want to know who that guy is before I draft him and he flips the bird to my paying customers, Mike Vick style. He’s part of this story too.

      Still call bullshit.

      • Zack

        Well are the coaches/GMs watching when they’re taking the test or is it just League Employee X that’s giving the test?

        It was a group of 12 people, if the employee was looking just at Tebow when the person said “Shut the f–k up” then how would the person be able to ID which of the 11 other players said it?

        And depending on what group took the test together, if you had to hang out with Tebow all day, or for multiple days in a row, then I think he’d get on all of our nerves and atleast one person would say something.

        You can have your doubts, obviously it’s just one side of the story. But I dont think your job interview scenario is that great of an example.

      • Accent Shallow

        Think back to when you were 20-24. In a room of >50 of your peers, if someone made a request like that, you’re telling me someone isn’t going to respond like that?

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

          Depends on the setting.

          At a bar? Sure. At the NFL Combine, where I’m auditioning to get drafted higher and earn myself millions of extra dollars?

          No, I wouldn’t.

          • Accent Shallow

            You wouldn’t say it, but how many people don’t have that restraint? I wouldn’t say it either, but I can picture it being said, especially as the ratio of players:non-players increases.

  • Andy In Sunny Daytona

    It’s been on a week, so it doesn’t matter, but what Police Department would let a detective sleep with a suspect to get to her husband?

    Come On!

    • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

      Come On!

      /Gob’d

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

      ????

      • pat

        Perdido.

    • Dirty Pena

      Didn’t the FBI let Renee Walker sleep with Eastern European dude?

    • Reggie C.

      She’s hot. Its Justified.

      • http://www.yfsf.org AndrewYF

        IETC

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

      what Police Department would let a detective sleep with a suspect to get to her husband?

      http://www.obscurehorror.com/bustycops2.jpg (safe-ish)

      • ColoYank

        RE: the safe-ish image at this link: I call airbrush on that navel. I’d rather see her real one. I bet it’s a lot sexier.

    • Pasqua

      Even creepier: Miles and co. watching / listening to the whole thing in the truck.

  • Cecala

    Does anyone else have trouble with ESPN360? Every other sports streaming works on my computer but the ESPN popup loads but the video never plays. I really hate ESPN sometimes, disney and sports just does not mix.

    • Dirty Pena

      I have that problem too. Not sure the cause since I downloaded each of the 780 requirements they ask for.

    • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

      Mine usually works pretty well.

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

      No. I generally avoid ESPN (AND ABSOLUTELY FUCKING HATE THAT THE VIDEOS AUTOMATICALLY PLAY WHEN A PAGE LOADS), but haven’t had any problems like that. Might be something off with your browser.

      • Cecala

        I will try with IE or FF bc it doesn’t work on chrome. The site is so ad filled as well its just an annoyance to load. It drives my adblocker crazy

      • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

        Dude, the thing with the auto play annoys the shit out of me.

      • bexarama

        autoplay might be the worst thing about the internet other than comments on YouTube videos

        • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

          You all know you can stop the autoplay if you’re using FF right?

          • bexarama

            No!!! How?!?!?

          • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

            no. How?

            • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

              FlashBlock

              All videos have to be clicked to be played, and you can disable for sites that you want to (like this one for advertising reasons)

            • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H
  • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

    (Here’s a preview of my Wed AM post. Let me know what you think)

    I must admit I was a bit surprised at the reaction I got on my Carl Crawford piece yesterday. People seem to think more highly of Carl than his numbers would suggest, and underrate Werth for some reason. So I wanted to take a minute to lay out some numbers, offensive and defensive, and then discuss contract status.

    First, let’s look at both players offensively. I’m going to use ESPN’s 3 year average, since both players have made strides in recent years and the 3 year numbers are more representative of who they are at this point in their careers. Here goes:

    Jayson Werth-
    Three year (2007-2009) Batting Splits
    Overall AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB HBP SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
    Total 1244 214 343 53 7 68 215 192 14 348 47 5 .276 .376 .494 .870

    Carl Crawford-
    Three year (2007-2009) Batting Splits
    Overall AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB HBP SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
    Total 1633 258 490 77 27 34 205 113 15 271 135 33 .300 .349 .443 .792

    No surprises here. Werth is way ahead in power numbers and OBP while Crawford blows away Jayson in Hits and Stolen Bases. It’s also worth noting that Werth has produced his totals in 310 fewer Plate Appearances.

    Now let’s look at both players defensively using UZR/150:

    Crawford-

    2007 -1.4

    2008 +25.6

    2009 +17.5

    Werth-

    2007 +35.3

    2008 +35.3

    2009 +3.4

    Of course, Werth plays the more valuable defensive position in RF. It’s also interesting to note that Crawford has played a grand total of 54 games in CF in his 8 year career. It’s not as if he was always blocked and hasn’t had an opportunity, the Rays 2005 starting CF was Damon Hollins and up to 2007 it was the often-injured Rocco Baldelli.

    Now let’s compare their value using total 3 year WAR and 2010 CHONE projection-

    Crawford-11.3 total WAR/3.8 CHONE

    Werth-14.6 total WAR/3.2 CHONE

    Werth’s CHONE gets pulled down by being fairly useless early in his career, and Crawford’s 3 year WAR gets taken down a bit since he was hurt in 2008 and missed roughly 1/3 of the season. But even if you give him a 50% bump on his 2008 2.7 WAR, that would increase his total to 12.65, still well behind Werth over that period.

    Finally, onto contract demands. Of course the marketplace will dictate what either player will get, but given their age (29/31) heading into free agency, it would stand to reason that Crawford will garner the longer deal. A good comp for Werth would be Jason Bay’s 4 year/66 mil deal. Crawford will likely get more years at a lower AAV, something in the 6 years 80-90 mil range. Carl’s value could shoot up even further with a big 2010 campaign, especially if he matches last year’s production. If he puts up another 5.5 WAR season, his price tag will likely soar north of 100 mil.

    • bexarama

      It’s pretty good. I think – and correct me if I’m wrong – people just think Werth might be looking for more than four years, especially if he has another season like last year.

      Also, Crawford’s stats are, IIRC, thrown off by a pretty bad 2008 in which he was injured. He still played through those injuries, though; Werth missed all of 2006 due to injury and he’s had a few things pop up over the past couple of years. He’s still a very good player, at least right now.

      Frankly I’d be happy with either as long as it’s the right deal.

      • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

        I mentioned CC lost 1/3 of a season when discussing his WAR. Even if you adjust for that, Werth is still 2+ wins ahead.

        What surprised me was people were acting like Crawford’s the better player, and I just don’t see it.

        • bexarama

          It’s not so much that he lost time as that he just wasn’t that good when he was there.

          I do agree Werth is the better player, but he’s also older and provided he doesn’t have a steep decline this year I think he’ll be looking for similar years as Crawford. But the people that are like “eeeuch Werth? No thanks” and I’ve seen a few… yeah, I don’t get it.

    • Accent Shallow

      But Werth has only played one big league season with a full complement of games — 2009. Additionally, he wasn’t worth a damn until 2007.

      Crawford is really dragged down in your comparison by his awful 2008 — can we expect him to put up that season from time to time, or is he going to be more along the lines of ’07 and ’09?

      • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

        I adjusted for that. See above comment.

        • Accent Shallow

          Sorta — you adjusted for him only playing 110 games, but he was bad in those 110 games. I was wondering if he can be expected to be that bad again, or if we think he’ll be better than that.

          Personally, I think he won’t be that bad again, but that’s just a feeling, nothing more.

          (Also, if you use the CHONE WAR data for ’07-’09, it’s a lot closer — 10.2 – 9.6 WAR. Granted, Werth accumulated that in much less playing time, but I feel like TZ is more stable year-to-year than UZR)

          Of course, I say that and I notice that Werth’s TZ went from 17 to -12 from 2008 to 2009. Eeek.

          • Accent Shallow

            My bad, +10 to -12. Regardless.

          • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

            Bad for the whole 110 games? That’s not my recollection. Actually, IIRC he hurt that wrist and went on the DL soon thereafter. Don’t think you can argue it affected his whole season.

            • Accent Shallow

              I’m just saying he had a bad season. I don’t know how much of it you can blame on the wrist, if he was going to get hot, but he had a .319 OBP in 110 games. Ick.

            • bexarama

              2008: .273/.319/.400/.718, 89 OPS+, 95 wRC+

              the three years before that:
              .307/.344/.472/.812, 114 OPS+, 123 wRC+
              his OBP had also increased every year and his SLG had gone up as well.

              2009: .305/.364/.452/.816, 113 OPS+, 126 wRC+

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                It’s like judging Nick Swisher including his 2008 season. It’s such an anomaly, it may not really offer any predictive value and we may be best served just not considering it at all.

                Fun Fact:

                Carl Crawford, BABIP:
                2002- .300
                2003- .327
                2004- .322
                2005- .325
                2006- .331
                2007- .374
                2008- .297
                2009- .342

                I smell an outlier.

                • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

                  Another fun fact.

                  Career .335 OBP with .142 ISO.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                  But that includes his 2002 and 2003 seasons (when he was an overmatched greenhorn who probably would have been demoted if the Devil Rays weren’t an epic pile of PerpetuFail) and his 2008 season (where he was hurt and/or unlucky).

                  His 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2009 indicate that his true talent levels are closer to about .345-.355 OBP and .150-.160 ISO.

                • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

                  That’s why I looked at 3 year numbers for both players, but then you started throwing out one of them.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

      A few things:

      1.) The notion that Werth should get bonus points for playing RF, “the more valuable defensive position” instead of LF is a bit sketchy, IMO. The difference between RF and LF is virtually nil. Teams often put better throwers in RF, but the value of that superior throwing arm is severely overstated. Both Crawford and Werth could play either LF or RF for the Yankees with aplomb.

      2.) Your bit about Crawford not playing much CF despite “It’s not as if he was always blocked and hasn’t had an opportunity” is disingenuous. He played LF EXACTLY because he was always blocked and didnt’ have an opportunity. He came up as an LF because the Rays back in 2002-2004 had Randy Winn (a legit stud CF still in his prime) and Ben Grieve (the then-jewel of their system and franchise). Baldelli, also an elite prospect and stud CF quickly replaced Winn. The bit about Damon Hollins is a red herring; Baldelli was still in the team’s plans at the time (but was hurt), and uprooting Crawford from his now accustomed LF spot would have been an overreaction. You’re trying to make it seem like the club moved Crawford off of CF because he’s not a good defender and never moved him back to CF because he’s flawed. That’s not true.

      3.) Werth is two full years older. His prior three years includes more of his athletic peak, which partially explains why he’s produced better. He’s also two years closer to LEAVING his athletic peak. This point wasn’t addressed, but it’s important. Very important.

      4.) Calling Jason Bay’s contract a “4 year/66 mil” deal isn’t accurate. Bay’s 5th year is almost certain to vest. It’s not a 4/66, it’s a 5/83. Werth would ask for a vesting 5th year, probably get it too.

      • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

        1) That’s fine, but I think a better argument would be that YS3′s LF is huge, so CC’s speed would play well there. You can live with less range in RF with the short porch. I also think CC in RF would be a disaster. He doesn’t have the arm for RF, and again his range plays better in LF.

        2) 54 CF games in 8 seasons, and you still haven’t explained 2005. Needing a CF for the whole year isn’t an “overreaction”, that would have been the perfect time to do it. The fact that he’s played those 54 games tells me they’ll move him around, they just never seem to stick with it. Must be a reason. I suspect there’s something else going here, he probably doesn’t pick up the ball well out there.

        3) Power hitter age better than speedsters. That’s a wash.

        4) If CC gets 4 years, fine. I still prefer the flexibility but I won’t complain. But he puts up a good 2010 campaign and he’ll easily get 5 or 6 years, maybe more. Now you’re talking 100+ mil and I think that should give folks cold feet.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

          On 4.) you’re not addressing my point. I wasn’t saying that Crawford wouldn’t get a 5 or 6 year deal, I was saying WERTH would get a 5 year deal.

          • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

            Come on, were not the Mets. They have to overpay. :wink:

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

          …you still haven’t explained 2005. Needing a CF for the whole year isn’t an “overreaction”, that would have been the perfect time to do it. The fact that he’s played those 54 games tells me they’ll move him around, they just never seem to stick with it. Must be a reason…

          Here’s the reason:

          Joey Gathright. When Baldelli was out for the year, Damon Hollins was not given the CF job out of Spring Training, Joey Gathright was. Hollins was moved to CF in May, midseason.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

            Bold close tag FAIL.

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

      Frankly, I like each player but not enough to give out the type of deals either will command. Both have serious long-term questions.

      Although Crawford’s slugging numbers have gone up (excepting his bizarre 2008, which screams outlier), he’s a speed/D guy. I’m not confident he’ll be the type of player that ages well. Corner outfielders that don’t have good power and make up for it in superior defense and speed are not the type of guys you want to sign for 5-year deals. He’ll probably be solid for the first three years (if a bit overpaid), but the last two are wildcards (assuming a five-year). I’d probably be talked into a four-year deal at around $14 mil. But I don’t think he’d take it.

      Werth has really only had two complete seasons. While I think he’s legit and criminally underrated, having MatsuiKnees scares the crap out of me. That’s a serious risk as he ages. And he’s already past 30.

      I’d actually be happier with Brett Gardner or whoever out there and targeting Sizemore in 2012.

      • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

        I’d actually be happier with Brett Gardner or whoever out there and targeting Sizemore in 2012.

        That’s my flexibility point. Leaving LF open means you can target a RF or CF, and then move one of Grandy/Swish (or Werth) and upgrade at 2 positions defensively. I have a bias against signing LF for that reason.

        If someone proves that Crawford could play CF and play it well, that would change the entire equation for me. TSJC’s tried, but I’m not there yet.

      • Hey ZZ

        Sizemore has a club option for 2012 that I assume will be picked up.

        However after that season, Sizemore, Kemp, Ethier, and BJ Upton project to hit the market. They all will not make it there, but that is some serious OF if the Yankees feel comfortable with what they have for a couple extra years and are willing to risk that at least 1-2 of those guys hit the market.

    • http://warriorsmovie.co.uk/content/gangs/images/baseballfuries02.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

      I commented on your post on Crawford and Werth and I’ll reiterate here what I said there… I think you can definitely make an argument for Werth over Crawford, I just think some of the points you tried to make in your post were stretches and made you look like you were trying to build a case for Werth over Crawford more than you were looking at the evidence and trying to determine the best answer.

      One thing I think you should probably be cognizant of when you examine this issue, though… Take a look at how Werth hits at home in CBP. By my count, 12-13 of his homers at CBP in 2009 would not have been homers at YS3. That’s a pretty sizable chunk of his power output in 2009 that might be neutralized by a move to YS3. On the other hand, only 1 of Crawford’s homers at the Trop looks like it wouldn’t have been a homer in YS3.

  • bexarama

    genuine question, because I was thinking about it earlier and couldn’t really come up with the conclusion – who was the better team, 2009 Angels or 2009 Red Sox? I honestly don’t know.

    Fun fact: the 2009 Indians and Brewers had team ERA+s of 83… ow

    • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

      I’d love to see the 09 Indians Bullpen ERA+

      • bexarama

        somehow someone with a 7.31 ERA (the 4.81 FIP is less totally ugly but nothing to get thrilled about), a 1.896 WHIP, and a 1.28 K/BB ratio went 4-3

      • Accent Shallow

        Fun fact: the 2009 Indians had a team ERA of 5.06, and an ERA+ of 83. Take out Cliff Lee, and the ERA ballons to 5.29, which is an ERA+ of about 80. The non-Lee rotation was so bad (ERA+ of ~79), that the bullpen was slightly better.

        • bexarama

          Fausto Carmona’s 2009 numbers make my eyes bleed

          • WIlliam

            I remember him being good in 2007 before the playoffs. Now….ouch.

            • bexarama

              he was great against the Yankees (in one game. He was gonna be the hard-luck loser against Pettitte, and then… bad things happened) then sucked against the Sox. Seriously, 3.167 WHIP in the 2007 ALCS, Carmona? Way to show up.

    • Accent Shallow

      I think the Sox were a slightly better team:

      Red Sox: OPS+ of 105, ERA+ of 108
      Angels: OPS+ of 106, ERA+ of 101

      I’d take the back of the Sox’ pen over the back of the Angels’ pen, FWIW.

      • bexarama

        I’d take the back of the Sox’ pen over the back of the Angels’ pen, FWIW.

        There’s absolutely no doubt about this.

  • Reggie C.

    Jenrry Mejia … are the Mets handling this kid’s future if he gets made a set-up from the get-go? Imo Mejia is second only to Montero in terms of WAR potential among the ny teams’ prospects.

    • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

      The only reason why he’s even being discussed is that Manuel and Minaya are on the hot seat. Even Joba was allowed to climb the ladder and blow away each level, Mejia had a 4.47 ERA in AA last year with 23 BB in 44.1 IP (1.511 WHIP).

      • Reggie C.

        His spring training performances makes Mets fans think he’s figured out pitching. Its pretty insane the talk i hear from friends about Mejia’s ceiling as the next great NY reliever. Mejia’s a damn fine prospect, but i agree, Manuel wants to save his job.

        • bexarama

          but he’s the next Mariano Rivera!!! Darryl Strawberry said so!!!

          I personally hope he gets the bullpen job for the lulz just because then when they try to move him to the rotation the Mets will have their own Joba-type situation.

      • pat

        Yea but The Straw said he is teh next Mariano Rivera!

        • Accent Shallow

          Straw didn’t exactly say that, did he? I thought he just said that he hadn’t seen anyone’s fastball move like Meija’s since he was a teammate of Mo’s. That’s pretty incredible stuff to hear about a 19 year old kid — makes you wonder if the fastball is so unhittable, why he was so hittable in the AFL and why he gave up a reasonable amount of hits in A+ and AA last year?

          • bexarama

            if you believe Klapisch: http://twitter.com/BobKlap/statuses/9881231262

            “I went to Omar and told him, ‘You’ve got to make this guy a closer,’” Strawberry was saying in animated fashion Tuesday. “I’d definitely put him in the pen this year, I don’t care if he’s only 20. He’s got a pitch that guys can’t hit.

            “He’s the only guy I’ve ever seen that reminds me of Mariano Rivera.”

            http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....straw.html

    • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

      Once again, fighting the urge to self promote.

      • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

        Do it.

        • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

          Okay!

          Hey guys! Click my link and read my article on Mejia from today!

          • bexarama

            good article.

            • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

              Gracias.

          • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

            You bastard. I was totally going to write that post last week, but Joe talked me into shelving it until the Mets actually announced they were going to bring Mejia north.

            • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

              He who hesitates is lost, Axisa.

              • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

                But, seriously, write it anyway and throw me a link!

  • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist
  • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

    So Andy in SD, I’ve been waiting all day.

    Has He accepted your friend request yet?

    • Andy In Sunny Daytona

      Not yet. (Sorry, I had to take a LOST break.)

      • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

        It’s ok, don’t worry about me. I wasn’t holding my breath hitting refresh every ten seconds or anything.

        • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-Melvin-To-America/193013541601?ref=nf Andy in Sunny Daytona

          He hasn’t added me, but then again he hasn’t added anyone else yet either.

          • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

            Half of his friends are chicks in bikinis, so you might have to update your photo. That being said, your profile photo may already be you in a bikini.

            • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-Melvin-To-America/193013541601?ref=nf Andy in Sunny Daytona

              I wear strictly banana hammocks.

  • http://161ststreet.wordpress.com/ Chris A

    I’m really sick of all this 5th starter business. All along I’ve felt that there is no way Joba will not the 5th starter, but in the past few days I’ve been harboring doubts. I know the MSM is in general irrational, but with all the hype given to Hughes and all the articles saying that he has been the favorite all along and that he will be the 5th starter without a doubt, I’ve started to wonder if they are actually right. Would they really say all this without knowing anything and then look really stupid when Joba is named the 5th starter? Maybe I’m just getting sucked in by it all, I just can’t wait until all this insanity is over.

    • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

      The pathological B-Jobbers will continue to say it over and over, just hoping it becomes true. I’m still waiting for someone in the organization, with their name attached, to say that Hughes is in the lead, or was ever in the lead. Neither of them has “won” it in Spring Training, so they’re likely to go with the one they wanted all along. I hope, and still think, it’s Joba.

      • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

        Word.

  • jramey

    How am i looking?

    SP:
    Greinke
    Carpenter
    Johnson
    Jurrjens

    RP:
    Brian Wilson
    Dave Robertson

    P
    Nick Blackburn
    Joba Chamberlain

    Starters:

    Mauer C
    Butler 1B
    Kendrick 2B
    Cantu 3B
    Theriot SS
    Kubel OF
    Rivera OF
    Guttierez OF
    Nick Johnson UTIL

    BN:
    Xavier Nady
    Melky Cabrera
    Casey Mcgeehee
    Delmon Young

    ?

    • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

      Offense is lacking. Pitching is great but I think you might need a big bat. Pitching is good though IMO.

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

      Your offense is fucked. Pitching is baller but I would certainly go all-offense over all-pitching. Hitters are safer to project, less prone to injury.

    • Dirty Pena

      What sized league? Always include the league size- mas importante.

  • bexarama

    Did anyone else see the really short guy on the Twins who wore the giant helmet? I had to laugh because I think whoever was catching for the Sox at the time was nearly as tall as he was while squatting. Also, I’m super short, so SHORT PEOPLE POWER WOO!!!

    • Dirty Pena

      How short are you? Pics or it didn’t happen!

      • bexarama

        5′ on a good day

  • Alex S

    okay guys i need some help finding the “douche-iest” picture of a sox player. its for a video that i will post

    • http://www.soxandpinstripes.com JGS
      • bexarama

        I was gonna say “the list is endless” but nevermind. JGS found your answer.

    • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

      You might have more trouble finding a picture of a Sox player not being a douche.

      I bet there’s plenty of Youk douchey photos.

    • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

      Too bad there’s no picture of a Sox player kissing himself in a mirr…….oops, nevermind.

      • Tom Zig

        If I were A-rod I’d kiss myself too.

        • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

          Nicely played.

    • Alex S

      okay i’m not going to use a sox player because it wouldn’t really make sense to the video. make sure your read the captions because the audio is swedish. sorry lol, enjoy

      http://en.tackfilm.se/?id=1269398086942RA24

    • bexarama

      not mine, posted by someone at NYYFans:
      http://i26.photobucket.com/alb.....ostark.jpg

      • http://cid-e3a022289d65b5c0.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Assorted/foul.jpg Andy (different one) in chilly NYC

        I think the best would be a variation on this one:

        http://blog.mlive.com/tigers_i.....restle.JPG
        (safe, except maybe for Bexy :-)

  • bexarama

    http://twitter.com/JoseCanseco/status/10932670929

    this should not make me laugh as much as it does. ANDREW!

    • bexarama

      at the same time it makes me vaguely nervous because… now? =/ urgh.

      • Dirty Pena
        • bexarama

          This Twitter is a thing of much beauty. Though… urgh. Still. =/

        • http://cid-e3a022289d65b5c0.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Assorted/foul.jpg Andy (different one) in chilly NYC

          Stay classy, Canseco.

    • http://cid-e3a022289d65b5c0.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Assorted/foul.jpg Andy (different one) in chilly NYC

      HEY! Watch it there, you non-Andrew-person.

      The non-Andrew jealousy just never ends…

      • bexarama

        it’s more just that I don’t think of Andy (Pettitte, not you) as an Andrew. Andrew is a perfectly nice name. :)

        • http://cid-e3a022289d65b5c0.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Assorted/foul.jpg Andy (different one) in chilly NYC

          OK, OK, I’ll let you slide this time, you little pip-squeak. :-)

          I’ll let you slide…

          …with this one little word:

          “drfat”

          • bexarama

            whyyyy is that so funny???

            • http://cid-e3a022289d65b5c0.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Assorted/foul.jpg Andy (different one) in chilly NYC

              It just is. Don’t try to understand it! :-)

              Did you see the “douchey Redsox” photo link I posted under your “Pedroia chased by giant baseball” link above?

              Gotta go, I’m off to bed.

    • Hey ZZ

      I am on the toilet thinking about writing a third book
      4:27 PM Mar 19th via TweetCaster

      • http://cid-e3a022289d65b5c0.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Assorted/foul.jpg Andy (different one) in chilly NYC

        Wow, he’s been in there a long time!

        I hope he’s showing that turd who’s boss!

        /Austin Powers’d

      • bexarama

        better Twitter: Ozzie Guillen or Jose Canseco?

  • bexarama

    BTW The Lineup was actually pretty good. I wish it had been a little longer, actually. (TWSS)

    • bexarama

      say “actually” more, self

  • Stryker

    need some fantasy trade proposal help. looking to trade one of haren/king felix/verlander for one of mark reynolds/david wright. who would you trade and for whom?

    • Tom Zig

      Depends on what stats are counted in your league.