Game 46: Two wins, one day
ByUpdate: Boone Logan has been optioned to make room for Chad Gaudin, who’s officially been re-signed. Shane Lindsay, who was claimed off waivers less than two weeks ago, was designated for assignment to make room on the 40-man roster.
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After winning the suspended game just a few minutes ago, the Yankees will try for a second victory on the day. They’ll start this one fresh, with Andy Pettitte going against Francisco Liriano.
We saw this matchup before, just a week and a half ago at the Stadium. The Yanks got to Liriano for nine hits, though only three of them came around to score. They worked the count and got him to 101 pitches through six innings, and then they tagged the Twins bullpen for another four runs and an easy win. Pettitte, in his first start after leaving a game against Baltimore with elbow inflammation, went six and a third with just two hits allowed. His control was a bit off, as he threw just 53 of his 95 pitches for strikes and walked three. He still came out easily ahead.
Liriano then moved onto Boston, where he pitched even worse. In 4.2 innings he allowed five runs on five hits, including two home runs, and three walks. In his last start at Target Field he allowed five runs on 10 hits to the Orioles. Before that, though, he’d allowed no runs at his home park. Liriano is best when he’s keeping the ball on the ground. In his first five starts opponents hit 52 groundballs to 38 fly balls. He allowed six runs in those 36 innings. Things have changed in his last three starts, as opponents have hit 25 groundballs to 34 fly balls. He has allowed 13 runs in 16.2 innings in those starts.
The Yanks would do well to score early and often for Pettitte here. The bullpen is pretty short after Robertson, Joba, and Mo pitched earlier.
Lineup:
1. Derek Jeter, SS
2. Nick Swisher, RF
3. Mark Teixeira, 1B
4. Alex Rodriguez, 3B
5. Robinson Cano, 2B
6. Marcus Thames, DH
7. Francisco Cervelli, C
8. Kevin Russo, LF
9. Brett Gardner, CF
And on the mound, number forty-six, Andy Pettitte.
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I’m not liking this post-side injury Mo =(
It’s an adventure every time with this Mo.
Hopefully it’s just a dead arm and he gets the feel back soon.
Bye bye, Boone
Finally Swish is batting 2nd
I’m really looking forward to the Mike Tyson CenterStage after the game.
Kay’s interview is impregnable.
He’s back from Bolivia?
gaudin available tonite?
Let’s play 1.44 (that right?).
Woot. Boone to AAA.
Jeter is now 3-4 with 3 HR against Duensing. So that’s twice that Gardenhire has been burned by bringing in a pitcher who’s given up more HR than outs against a Yankee.
Is Gardenhire on Cashman’s payroll or something?
I hate Justin Morneau
The only reason Mo struggled today was that he was pissed at Twins acting as if they could possibly beat Him if He didn’t want them too. So he pretended to struggle in order to get their hopes up, then crushed them using his divine will.
Considering how trades are supposed to pick up in June after the draft, who will the Yanks target? Seeing as how NJ might end up being on the shelf the rest of the season, I think Adam LaRoche is a good target. He will only make 3M for the rest of the season and can be had for a reliever and/or salary relief.
Why would they do that, Tex will break from his slump, they already have Miranda, and Johnson might be back by August
and if he’s not, well then we’re short a very good hitter that we will need in the postseason
There’s also going to be a 1.5M buyout, or 9.5M mutual option if he’s traded.
RAB holiday with Logan being sent down.
Short pen. Let’s hope Pettitte goes deep and hope the offense does something this time.
Let’s hope Pettitte goes deep
At first I was like “interleague?”
Then I was like… no comment
Short on shutdown guys, but they are built for length with Mitre, Park, and Gaudin (who went 67 pitches in his last outing)
ESPN said Tex can do some damage from the right side, HUUUUUUUUUUUUUH!!!!!!
He can. He’s just not.
Jeter really does seem to be hitting better-even on this out, he hit it in the air toward right-center rather then on the ground to SS. A good sign.
Hey hey…just got home. I see Yanks won Game 1….yippeeeeeeeee
By all means, keep batting Gardner second.
grumblegrumble
Swisher creams one? What the hell does that mean?
Thats what we need from the 2nd hole
I honestly think Kay enjoys pointing on how much people are slumping.
You’ve been watching the Yankees for how long?
Strasburg might be “debuting” against the Pirates. Which begs the question, which MLB team will be the first one that Strasburg faces?
I enjoyed this comment very much
He could possibly debut against Detroit or Cleveland.
can you imagine if it was cleveland? He’d be like “god dammit, i’m debuting against the pirates? fuck this. Oh snap i get to face the AL next start! Oh god dammit…”
Tex makes me want to throw a bat through my TV
I like his “not try to do anything differently” approach. It really seems to be working out for him because he “really hasn’t done much differently than suck” all season.
Tex, why would you swing at that, babe? =/
ohhhh 3-4 with RISP
DEJA VU all over again
You know what I have to say about that inning?
http://aaronsprecher.com/conte.....ration.jpg
Over/under 10 HR for Tex at the break?
And over/under 20 combined HR for Alex and Tex at the break?
Date: May 26th, not a time to be boverreacting.
Tex will have around 16 or 17 HR by the break. A-Rod will have around 20 HR by the break.
I take the over on all accounts.
Over for both would be a solid choice. Idk about 20 & 17 though.
A-Rod is long overdue for a home run bonanza. He could potentially hit ten this week and next. Teixeira’s numbers point to a rebound (.223 BABIP, 19% LD rate, 21% for career). He’s due for a better month at the plate.
Over, But barely for both
And that’s probably a stolen base.
NO Denard Span, that’s a BAD Denard Span. NO.
I wish Sapn would hit his mom with a foul ball again
Kidding(knock on wood)
What’s a “blue dart”?
(Sterling’s description of Span’s double
)
Did you know that Orlandon Hudson can steal 40 bases? He doesn’t, because it’s not his game, but he could if he wanted to.
/Ichiro with home runs’d
Hahaha yes.
“I’ve seen Ichiro take BP in Yankee Stadium and he hits HRs at will!”
“He could win the HR Derby with ease if someone would just let him in!”
/MSM’d
Matusz with 4 ER in the first against OAKLAND. Yeah I think I might drop him.
Eeeek! I thought he was gonna be a stud this year. I was very wrong. So far.
Yeah same. But growing pains. Now if Matusz was in NY I think he’d be in the 8th by now.
Hey Yankees, see that? It’s called a hit with men in scoring position. Study it, you’ll be quizzed on it later.
(Hand in face)I hate the ump
He was safe, though.
“So the stolen base was big…actually, Span would have scored from second on that too”
-Sterling
holy crap morneau is murdering the ball this year
nifty
Nice double play
Who will be sent down once Curtis G comes back. DFA Randy Winn and keep Russo, wont happen though
Let Russo go down and get regular starts in the OF and at SS in preparation for his call up later in the year.
Heh. Cano might’ve made that play
FUcking Sterling is such a dick.
“Swung on and LAUNCHED to left center”
“And Spahn catches it a few feet in front of the warning track”
Did you hear Kay’s call of Hardy’s hit off Mo? GOOD LORD.
I didn’t. Luckily I got to watch it on TV and have my own heart attack.
*Hahah Suzyn flies in the face of conventional scouting and claims Russo is a good SS.
Can’t blame Kay there, it really looked out.
So did I but he was SCREAMING!!!!!!
Swung on and hit DEEEEeeeeEEeEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeEEeEeEepto left-center field!
GONING BACK RUSSO!
AT THE TRACK!
(Russo settles calmly under ball)
AT THE WALL!
(easily makes catch)
AND HE MAKES THE CATCH!!!!!
Heh, I can actually hear him saying that. Something we’ve heard a hundred times.
That’s EXACTLY what he said
I can attest, this was an unpleasant call.
I was just going to post this
Who the hell wants to watch Rangers Twins!?!
O-dawg tried to throw Cano out, Cano-style. Nuh uh.
Is it in Kay’s contract that he has to avoid talking about any player actually on the field of play, or the actual game situation? Is there a bonus when he manages to do it for a whole half-inning?
He only talks about them when they’re slumping
and Teixeira’s struggles continue
RISP part 2, lets see what happens
That was a ball
lol @ the twins broadcasters basically explaining what a strikeout is as though it’s a weapon unique to Liriano (of course on that pitching staff it pretty much is)
RISP fail.
WTF was Gardner looking for exactly?
Time to remove the Boone Logan anger widget woot
OMG, WTF were you looking for, I’d rather you swing and miss
Liriano’s slider is really good dude
yes, that would have been a better result
At least Gardner had a good at-bat? /silver lining’d
That looked like late season ’09 GGBG. Staring at strike 3 as the ball literally crosses as much of home plate as physically possible.
The twins traded Matt Garza for that guy. Haha.
Dont forget Bartlett
oh I fully intend to forget bartlett.
Young is lucky, a good fielder would have caught that ball, I dont blame Russo though, he isnt use to LF
Look, Kay’s trying to start drama, guys. I’m so surprised.
explain
BLAH BLAH BLAH MARIANO DOESN’T MARIANO LOOK BAD???
Heehehah..you crack me up.
Haha I love how Michael Kay is using one batted ball from JJ Hardy as evidence that it is impossible to hit a ball out of left-center field. He is convinced that JJ Hardy should have had a 500 ft. round tripper.
And the only run of the game was a HR easily over the fence from our struggling captain.
How long will Ace be out, hopefully not the whole year
It doesn’t look good at all. They’ve tried the rest and rehab route, and it flared up again. Depending on how long the recovery time is from surgery (say 4 months=offseason) they may opt to keep trying rest and rehab. If it’s longer than 4 months to recover fully, then they might cut him right away so he’s ready for next year.
NIce Jason Kubel is not playing tonight!
Jason Kubel needs to board a plane to Seattle, then take a bus down to Eugene, Oregon, then take another bus up the Wakonda River, holler across the river towards the Stamper house till Joe Ben comes out lookin for ta see who it is makin all that racket across’n the river over there, hop in the boat, skiff it across, say “well I’ll be! It’s cousin Jason! Getcher goofy ass on over here! I think there’s still a couple burgers left from supper, the missus will throw em in the oven for ya! How are ya bub?” To which Jason Kubel will respond “Not bad, a little beat up from the trip. How bout yourself? How’s business?” To which Joe Ben will gravely respond “Not so great. Them damn Union boys got us hangin on by a thread. We sure do appreciate you comin back on up here to help out!”
Jason Kubel will then help Joe Ben fasten the boat to the dock, and then walk up to the house with him. When they reach the screen door to the porch (there isn’t an actual door to the house – just a doorway), Joe Ben will exclaim “Hey all a yall come look! It’s cousin Jason Kubel! He’s come up to help us out fer the cuttin season!” And all of Jason Kubel’s relatives will relish the opportunity to stick it to the union scum, at least for one more year.
That’s what Jason Kubel should do.
Lets go Jeet, lets get this inning started
Beltre homer off Garza. 1-0 Sox.
Sox do you want the Sox to sweep or Tampa to make it more even? I don’t know who to root for.
Root for who you hate least of these 2
I don’t hate the Rays as much but they are in first but a good amount of games. But the Sox are rapidly catching n to the Yanks. So i don’t know. I guess I’ll go for Sox and really hope the Yanks offense manages to do something.
If the Yankees win, they gain a game and a half on someone.
Why do you have to root for one of the two?
Red Sox might sweep Rays today, should we be worried
No. Nice to see the Rays lose
OPEN TEH FLOODGATES TEX
Oh my god Tex got a hit! Best news all day.
Thank god for broken bats
Youdickless saved Lackey, thats the only way Tex gets a hit, but i’ll take it
So many moves behind home plate, he is like Elgin Baylor back there
-Sterling, dating himself
Wtf was he even talking about?
Liriano does’nt look like he has his best stuff, but yet he gets out of it, no sweat, watching the Yankees offense is really going to make me rip my hair off
Yeah leading the league in runs scored per game sucks
Be fair now, he has a point. They’ve been awful the past three games.
They have but people never give the opposing pitcher any credit. Ever. It’s always “blah sucks but the Yankees suck worse!!!!” I’m really tired of it. It’s not just him, but I guess it came to a head here.
There’s a point where with an offense as good as this one should be it goes beyond just giving the pitcher credit. You have to thhink they’re also struggling.
They are. Do I get frustrated when Teixeira does what he’s been doing lately? Yup. But don’t say “watching the offense is going to make me tear my hair out” because you could be a fan of oh I don’t know PRETTY MUCH EVERY OTHER TEAM.
Point well taken.
Actually I think Toronto is.
As of this morning, Toronto had played three more games. More overall runs, but the Yankees have a higher R/G
I was gonna say, Toronto has more runs scored but only by a run or two and they’ve played more games so the Yankees have more runs per game.
Oh okay my bad then.
not only that, but the difference between them and second place is bigger than the difference between 2nd and 7th.
doesn’t, spell fail
You should really use the REPLY button. It’s blue, bottom right corner of the comment box.
Wow, Robbie.
/head explodes
This Cano guy was a great call up.
Question, will Cano win the gold glove
Nope. I’m guessing Pedroia just because of teh stupid grit.
Not to mention, he’s a better defender.
Eh. Pedroia IS a better defender, but he’s not the auto-choice. He didn’t win last year. I think Cano wins this year, though, just because of the hype.
Lets go Robbie Cano
Buehrle ftw
He said Joe West is too worried about promoting his CD and getting his name in the paper.
Ahahahaha that’s awesome, I love Buehrle so much.
As much as AP?
Not NEARLY. But he’s one of my favorite non-Yankees.
Linkage please?
Toronto is pissing me off, I know they wont be in the race by the second half, but it still feels bad to see them win unless its against Boston or Tampa
Love that Russo kid
Yeah Russo. Great at-bat.
Alright Russo
LAWN GUY LAND REPRESENT WOOO
WOOOOOOOOOOOO LONG ISLAAAAAND!!!!!!!
Can we get a replay of that? YES’ camera work had me really confused there.
The ball bounced a couple of feet within the left field line and bounced into the corner.
Thanks. They did show a replay, so I saw that. The initial camera angle made me think it was either a grounder to short, or a popup to CF. Odd.
Russo!
What’s with the horrid fucking camera work today? Same thing happened before.
roooooss
Don’t get me wrong, it’s GREAT that we tied it, but even now we can’t score a run with RISP.
Russo with teh clutch!
Looked safe to me.
That’s either a hell of a play by Hardy, or some bullshit.
At least the game is tied up
Damn Al, WTF was that?
“Kiiiirrrr-byyyyy Puck-ett!”
They said that in Minnesota, I believe. Harold Reynolds ALWAYS calls him that.
You learn something new every day.
Yeah, I went to a few Twins games at the Metrodome back in the 80′s when I was a little kid and the announcer would say it like that when Kirby came up to bat. Really stuck with me because now any time I see his name that’s how I say it in my head.
Anyone watching this game on ESPN? Is it me or does Rick Sutcliffe make every single play/pitch sound like it is season ending to team damaging?
I’m not, but he does. It’s ESPN. Everything is ~making a statement~
Nice play Russo.
Joe Mauer is really freaking good.
Thanks for saving an XBH, LI Guy.
Calm the fuck down Kay. Again, that wasn’t even close to being out.
that’s it, russo is the 4th OF!!!
Nice Play, I though that was gone, that park really is huge
what’s the opposite of a bandbox?
mauer must be rethinking his contract
DFA Winn, keep Russo
Fuck Beltre
Never mind Beltre…Russo is kicking
Beltre’s no Kevin Ru-kilis!
Wow. The Red Sux have really owned the Rays this series
Could this be the start of a Rays slump
Regression to the mean can be a bitch.
not sure cervelli should be fist pumping this early in the game
Cervelli loves him some fist pumping. Must be the Italian in him.
/All Italians love fist pumps.
Andy with the good offspeed stuff… nnngh
Lets go Jeet, dont bunt Swish
Damnit maybe he should of
Oh boy RISP opportunity for heart of the order…
Hahah, wtf? Come on Gardy.
Ah, shit. Twas Swisher.
Great AB’s guys. Two fucking pitches two outs.
About seven more runs and some CHoP action would be appreciated.
I am going to be so psyched when he’s DFAed.
(Man, I feel like such a jerk for that)
What is it with those ridiculous ABs? Swisher has to go after the first freaking pitch?
Jeter with a nice little hot streak going on. Trying to make it look liek he deserves his place at the ASG.
Kay acting smart. Sigh.
How awesome is the Gameday pitch-by-pitch of the Delmon Young strikeout?
1) Changeup out of the zone (down) – Swinging Strike
2) Fastball up and in on the corner – Foul
3) Cutter out of the zone (in) – Foul
4) Changeup away, on the black – Swinging Strike
I love Delmon Young, especially with Kubel out of the lineup. Pitch around the M&M boys, and take your chances with Cuddyer and Young.
It’s so annoying to have to root for the Sux.
serious bling on liriano
Think ESPN should consider that if Susan Waldman’s voice is more appealing than any ESPN person, the selection you have sucks.
Seriously, you pitch carefully because Cano is lefthanded, he hits lefties a ton.
Ahh, he corrected himself. Now I’m switching to YES anyway.
In what world is A-Rod struggling?
Is he supposed to suck, because he’s struggling to suck. Damnit Cano.
Ouchies.
Can the offense please stop sucking?
2-3-4-5, I know a correction is coming but SERIOUSLY
To be fair, Cano and A-rod have been hitting well, as has swisher, though he wasn’t batting 2nd to today. Right now it’s mainly Tex and Gardy.
*’til
i miss when leadoff doubles by jeter led to runs
Situational hitting has been veddy veddy bad as of late.
even if someone hits a triple, this team wouldn’t score a run
Great camera work again YES. It’s not like we want to see where the ball goes.
Ozzie Guillen not happy with Joe West.
I’m pretty sure calling an umpire a fucking asshole is going to get you a fine of some sort
Umps like West should be fired; stay out of the spotlight.
Ozzie is only stating a fact tough.
Never said he was wrong. I 100% agree with him. Doesn’t mean he won’t get a huge fine though
Two guys I don’t like going at it, this can only end well.
I actually gained more respect for Ozzie. He’s calling out the real embarrassment of the game.
Holy shit. Ozzie actually said this gem? Golf clap Ozzie, golf clap.
Did you hear what the Hawk said when it happened? He was absolutely spot on
Nope. What did he say?
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb
I don’t buy that call to get Harris (Gameday sorta does, but the overhead camera confirms the pitch went around the plate), but I don’t care, since Brendan Harris sucks, and should be afforded all the perks of being a scrub.
1-2-3 inning, Pettitte is a beast today
I’m starting the official Pettite and Hughes for co-Cy Young award winners campaign.
Friday can’t come fast enough. Struggling or not a healthy Granderson makes the lineup better.
I’m in Twitter jail which is good because it’s sparing people from me UNFFFFFing all over Pettitte. More than I already am.
It appears Tampa won’t have a staff ERA under 3 for the year?
Russo is a beast
Russo and Jeter heading the offense today.
Yay Gardy.
alllright bottom of the order
That’s how it’s done son.
Great that we took the lead but…
STILL not with men in scoring position!
LETS GO GARDNER!!!!!! Good baserunning by Russo
GARDNER MOWS EM’ DOWN!!
Told ya…Russo is da man
YOUTH! SPEED! FUNDAMENTALS! RUNS!!!!! WOOOOOOO
I second that….
Twins Baseball?
/cliche’d
Gardner with the Triple!!
Well of course they got that hit. It wasn’t with RISP.
/sarcasm
/but kinda not really
http://riveraveblues.com/2010/.....ent-898512
Gardner needs to steal back 2nd and 1st so Jeter has a chance here
Horrible swing, but we got the lead
So smooth.
Sterling is drooling–how good a play was that?
Heh, I actually went to a Twins site to see if they were gonna say something about it.
It was okay; if Cano had a worse arm he wouldn’t have made it. Kay mentioned it in passing.
Brewers pitching vs. Astros hitting… this could be interesting.
Milwaukee ERA+ = 76
Houston OPS+ = 59 (!!!)
For the record, an OPS+ of 59 would be the worst in the majors of anyone last year who qualified for rate stats. Worse than Yuni Betancourt, worse than Emilio Bonifacio, worse than Randy Winn and Jason Kendall.
This is every single person on the Astros combined
Someone Jeter sheds a tear.
Somewhere*
Andy Pettite is awesome.
Pettitte. Stupid keyboard.
bexy thanks you for that correction.
Wouldnt be a surprise to see Pettitte in the All-Star game, he really is an underated pitcher in his career
I think Girardi, since he gets to decide the pitchers, might take him but not want to use him.
Someone make a girl equivalent of this so I can use it for Andy:
Like a Prayer, you want to take Andy there?
YES. (finds that song and cranks it) Andy. (fans self)
ahahaha that was a good one pat
Liriano is getting a ton of swinging strikes..
Because he has a really good slider?
Another Ortiz homer? Looks like he got his supplements back. And that’s 6 ER in 4.1 innings for Garza. Pitching is falling down for them.
Ortiz has more home runs than anyone on the Yankees
wtf, just give Tex the hit
Honestly. Give the guy a damn break.
I think Michael Kay is perfect for SC. He has enough dumbass to go around.
An A-Bomb to knock Liriano out of the game would be nice.
Orrrr not.
I wish Tex and Ortiz would switch positions, so Tex would be killing the ball, and Ortiz would be a loser like he was in April
Why show Teix’s last 5 games? You may as well show his last 50.
A-Rod with his 133 wRC+ is soooooooooooooooooo bad! DFA DFA DFA!
/Kay’d
Kay today is worse than Tim McCarver.
Examples of pitcher abuse – http://www.baseball-reference......sc01.shtml and http://www.baseball-reference......ma01.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference......sc01.shtml
Check out 98-01 and remember that this guy was a full time reliever
What ever happened to Prior
MLB needs to investigate Ortiz, how is he killing the ball all of a sudden, its bullshit if you think that he has found his stroke back
Well Teix does the same thing every year…
Its a joke
Oh my bad.
Guys who have wrist surgery often take a full year to get their power back.
*cough*Nick Johnson*cough*
three team race this year. gonna be awesome
Damn, Papi’s back and the Rays are finally slumping.
I hate Gayvid Ortiz
Please don’t use gay as an insult. It’s not.
Yes. We refer to him as ‘Big Sloppy’ around here.
That only offends the slobs, but who cares what they think.
Say we’re down 2-1 in the 9th. Andy is at 100 pitches. Who do we send to pitch?
That would be impossible since we’re up 2-1.
I meant up 2-1. Whoops…
Ah.
I’d use Mo.
Well, there goes that hypothetical.
So, Jeter, anytime you’d like to play defense . . .
Where’s ‘Pastadivingjeter’ these days? He’s due for a comeback.
It’s on the shelf, replaced by pastalungingjeter.
I was thinking of going with pastadisintertestedjeter but it just seems a bit long.
Andy showing emotion is so fucking hot (/heterosexual girl’d). Now get this guy!
Phooey.
Lackey is so lucky today. 4 IP with 11 baserunners with ONE K. Oh well it’s nice watching him suck and it’s nice looking at that contract at the same time.
poop
FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ugh.
Jeter’s defense seems to be giving up a lot of runs lately
Delmon Youg is still a loser in my book
No TV by me now. I can safely assume Jeter made a bad play, leading to a Twins run?
No just bad range.
Eeeewww.
Delmon giveth and Delmon taketh.
Damn.
http://highbridnation.com/2007.....y-pettite/
Turn your head Bexy. You don’t want to read this.
That’s from 2007. And seems, errr, not terribly reliable.
Unreliable? Next thing you’ll try to tell me The Onion isn’t a real newspaper.
COME ON OFFENSE, WE NEED TO SCORE SOME RUNS!!!!
Andy’s pissed.
/bex bait’d
Poor baby. I’ll make him feel better.
That is so easy.
Like I’d be with Andy?
/too obvious’d ?
I hate that ESPN commercial, with Joltin Joe, Aaron and Pujols. Pujols is not the best player of this generation
I think he might be.
Barry Bonds says Hiiiiiiiii
Never mind, for some reason I thought of him as completely post-Bonds. Which he’s not.
Best one not implicated in any sort of steroid allegations.
If he’s not, who is? He’s one of the best players EVER.
No? Other than Bonds, I can’t think of anyone better
He’s the best player who hasn’t admitted to steroid use.
Maybe he’s used them, but until that comes out you can’t use Alex. Even if all their numbers are equal, you’d use Pujols for PR purposes.
Ah Ken Griffey Jr anyone
You mean Ken Griffy DL?
Griffey: 78.4 WAR, 22 seasons
Pujols: 78.1 WAR, 10 seasons
Beat me.
Yep. Had he stayed healthy, you could make a case for Griffey. But he didn’t, so…….
Or, put another way
WAR/600PA
Griffey: 4.20
Pujols: 7.55
Pujols > Griffey
In 11303 PA, Griffey has a WAR of 78.4.
In 6282 PA, Pujols has a WAR of 78.1.
I’m going to disagree a little. Through 10 seasons (~5900 PA), Griffey had 64 WAR. He had little value after 2000, but he was so great before that, that he’s still an easy HoF.
Not that ~15 WAR isn’t a lot of ground to make up, but I’d take a Gold Glove CF over a Gold Glove 1B.
But doesn’t WAR take position into account? Pujols is ahead by 15 even with getting hammered by positional adjustment
It does, but Rally’s WAR uses TotalZone, which isn’t a PBP metric. Not that I think that would make up the entire difference, but I think it might be a discussion worth having.
Okay, sure, but WAR is also adjusting for position. Playing CF gave Griffey a big boost whereas play 1B handicapped Pujols and Pujols still excelled.
I’m not saying Griffey wasn’t a high caliber player, he obviously was, but Pujols has been just as good.
Yup. My original point (which I’ve gotten away from) was that since so much of Griffey’s value was concentrated into the beginning of his career, using his whole career WAR undersells him.
Of course it does–as it would anyone with a high but short peak. The thing is, Pujols still wins even when you chop off the mediocre last half of Griffey’s career
Again, John splooges over a fly ball. Fucker.
The person who designed Target Field is sadistic
Why don’t we hold off judging how a ballpark plays after two months?
TEH BAND BAWXXXXX!!!!!!!
this park makes citi field look like a band box just ask Mauer and Morneau
Lets go Russo
Mysteriously the Yankees as a team have a 115 OPS+ with RISP (not including today).
They started the season off fine, they’ve been sucking lately.
Yep. And they’ll end up being fine by the end.
yeah they always do. We also happen to have 3 (2.5?) replacement level players in the lineup.
I want Pettite to go another inning so he has a chance at a win, since he has pitched one hell of a game.
Fucking shit. What the fuck.
You gotta be kidding me Gardy ;_;
it was a tough play
Damnit so close
I am taking Gardner off of my bestfriends list.
If Gardner’s right-handed, that’s an (easy) out.
Argh.
I hate when the worst batters get hits, aka Delmon Young
WTF WAS THAT!!!
Tremendous fail
this team can’t make it up seriously
Okay, Andy. Time for some magic.
Oh God oh God oh God.
Andy deserves a lot better than this. That said… he got it.
I think the Yankees just lost,
yup definitely. 2-2 we’ve lost
Have faith my friend. Pettite just made an out.
Man on first, one out, groundball pitcher on the mound.
Ok, I was calm, but I’d forgotten Mauer is up. Crap.
Nice!
DP time
dance party?
Wow. Awesome. Please roll one, Andy. Please.
Nice snatch Andy. Now get that GIDP.
Outstanding play!!!!!!!!!, double play now
Game over, very likely.
Pettitte has to do everything himself.
Just a ground ball baby. Dass it.
what was the coaching visit to the mound about?
Best catcher yes. One of the best bats? Ehh.
Fuck there should be 2 outs
He should already be out of this inning =/
Excellent play by Pettitte there. Snared that liner, probably could have gotten Butera had he not been paying attention.
Why does Kay sound surprised that the crowd is standing during the game’s biggest play?
It’s all about the narrative.
Gameday didn’t like ball 3 to Mauer, but I sure did.
He swung anyway.
BOOM!
Nicely done, Andy!
Fuckin’ A!
YES DPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FUCK YEAH!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
wow. Andy is awesomeness
SEX IN MY MOUTH
This comment is a diamond in the rough
I had a totally filthy response and deleted it.
One can only imagine……
Boo!
Fantastic.
woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
YESSS!!!!!!!!!!!
/Orgasm’d
That is why we resigned Pettitte… and Jeter to his left – suck it losers.
wait, wait, wait…I’m sure that play was just fine, but that doesn’t render the entirety of the season up to this point irrelevant, nor does it make anyone a loser for pointing out deficient play.
Jeter is to Andy’s right.
YES!!! ANDY I LOV…I MEAN BEXY LOVES YOU!!!!!
Dandy
I CANNOT BELIEVE that just happened.
I love you so much Andy!!!!!! Guys, get him a fucking win!
that andy pettitte guy is pretty sweet
I don’t care about the outcome of the game, this should be a Yankee classic solely for that eighth inning. Andy pulled a D-Rob there.
No. We need to win.
Threw a nasty curveball? Pulled a real life Summer Catch?
(Now, I’m not joking. He met his wife while playing in the Cape Cod League)
Ohhh…my boy is pumped up and looking great…sorry Bexy
He’s MINE!
Alright alright…I’ll take AJ…you can have Andy
ps. Can we share?
I suppose.
You a girl too? High-five if so. And if not.
ALLLLL woman. Kudos on your blog and knowledge of baseball. My kinda girl.
wow that’s nice. Now they HAVE to score some runs and get Andy his win. He deserves it.
that was HUGE! good job pettitte!!!!!!!!
PETTITTE IS A BEAST!!!!! He really deserves to win this game
Just goes to show you…You just can’t predict baseball.
How gritty is Andy?
He’s covered in grits AND I WANT TO LICK THEM OFF OF HIM
Comment of the night.
I don’t know what to say to this.
that might have crossed a line
If this crossed a line I don’t even WANT to know what the reaction to my deleted post would have been.
Hahah nice, bex.
Now now Bexy
by “gritty”, do you mean talented?
So Kay calls a ball a pop up to the warning track and calls a fly out at second base. Good job.
I feel sorry for Pettitte, he most likely wont get the win
I can’t recall ever seeing Andy that pumped.
ARG TOTAL FUCKING HANGER GOD DAMN IT
I thought Jeter hit a homerun just now….damn it!
PATIENCE, HAVE PATIENCE!!!!! >:(
so, after brett works a 7 pitch AB, Jeter swings at the first pitch (as he is wont to do, and has been his whole career), and swisher takes two straight pitches, you’re whining about patience?
With Andy’s pitch count tonight, he could easily go 10 innings.
With Andy’s pitch count tonight, he could easily go 10 innings.but he won’t have to!!
Pitch to Jeter hung “too much” if there is such a thing. If it was a little lower, Jeter shits all over it. But, it stayed up and he was only able to fly out. Damn.
SWISHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
ROAD SWISH!!!
Swisher says fuck your long fences. What a shot.
OMG YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FUCK YEAH SWISHY!
SWISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YES!!!!!
SWISHALICIOS!!!!!
This game is so fucking awesome.
SWISH IS A FUCKIIIIIN BEAST!!!!!!! LETS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I thought Andy wasn’t getting the win
http://riveraveblues.com/2010/.....ent-898651
OH FUCK YEAH.
so is it AP or mo now?
shitty offensive inning…go figure
que?
Swisher!!! Love you so much right now!
Jon Rauch ladies and gentlemen nice to see the real pitcher show up
YESSSSS!!!!!! OH YES!!!!
FUCK MY LIFE!!!!!
That’s bullshit.
WELL NVM LOL
get it swish!!!
Cuddyer really? who knew
Great throw Cuddyer.
Watevs. What a shot that was by Swish.
Pettitte for the CG
let Andy go for the CG!
We don’t need Marte/ Meatray closing games
Oh, those poor Twins fans. We break their hearts every time.
Tex was easily safe there. I don’t know what the ump was looking at
His watch so he can go home faster apparently.
He was out…but at least he is hitting
)
guys think andy has enough to do the last inning??
I don’t see how you don’t send him back out there. Lots of pitches, but until that last inning, not many of them were high stress.
if you get beat in the bottom of the 9th without the greatest closer of all time on the mound, you are a foolish manager
Except he’s already been sued previously and it’s clear that he’s not 100 percent.
andy at 90~ pitches isn’t 100% either
Yeah, but ~90 pitches? That’s hardly breaking a sweat for these guys. If he’s at 105-110 or more, then maybe I agree with you.
he gave up a run in the last inning to tie the game. he wasn’t at 100% and he was facing one of the twins’ best hitters. are you really arguing against using mo in a save situation?
Let Pettite complete the game!!!!
Darn it…let Andy finish this
Ugh.
Ballsy.
Mo time in Minny.
So much for “we won’t use anyone from game 1.”
Would it kill you for a complete game?
But it’s a save situation! Only a proven closer can pitch!
and a complete game matters why? stat porn?
Good job Pettitte, lets go Mo
I can’t believe I think bringing in Mo is the wrong decision
I can’t believe I’m agreeing with you.
I can’t believe it’s not butter.
/familyguy’d
I don’t know if it’s the “wrong” decision but Pettite looked pretty tired after the last inning. But it’s pretty sad that I’m worried with Mo coming in
come on andy 3 more outs!
So this is what Andy was like when he was the ace right back in the 90s right?
I never really think of Andy as an ace – maybe 1997 – but this was amazing of him.
He had a sub 3.00 ERA one year in his Astros days.
And yes, 2005. 2002 but he was out a good portion of the year.
Tonight was as good as I’ve ever seen his control. He was David Wells-like tonight.
oh come on let him finish!
wow, Mo again? That’s surprising.
This is a dumb move right? Mo already pitched today and was ineffective.
he’s still the best closer of all time, andy is still effective but not mo
I can see why you’d disagree with it, but that is not a good reason to disagree.
He’s Mo. He’ll do fine.
OK, I was wrong.
if mo blows it
girardi’s life will me miserable for the next 24 hours
if andy blew it how would it be any better? “you had the immortal mo and you didn’t use him in a save situation???!!!”
They day we start doutbing MO is the day we are doomed. He’ll be fine
not sure anyone doubts Mo bringing him in is never the wrong move only issue I have is at his age throwing him twice in 1 day in May probably won’t matter health wise long term fair
2 more outs
Jesus Christ now Sterling is miscalling balls and strikes.
mm that was close
Is the ump wasted? What’s with the jimmy arms.
I hope Kubel comes up to bat, and Mo K’s him to win the game, It will put icing on the cake
Where did ball 2 miss? Oh gosh…
Oh gosh indeed. Ump is suddenly blind
Where are those pitches?
come on 1 more!!
Mo just needs activity to be Mo. Like a Porsche 911, can’t let that bitch sit too long.
I like that
Boo-ya
Yeah baby….
Yankees’ Classic right there.
And the Yankees win. Feels good to win two games in one day.
4 runs, 2 wins. I’ll take it.
he brought in mo!!!! fire girardi!!!!!
Sweet Sweet win, Andy deserves this win
Haha Swish causing a ruckus.
sweet! good jobs yanks!
What a game!!! Thank you Yankees!
Fuentes is trash!!!
Wow, the Twins really suck against the Yanks, lets go Vazquez, lets get that sweep
Rays will probably lose today so Yanks will be 3 out of first. Not bad.
But I thought teh Rays were running away with the division?
ah…forget about Lindsay.
Nice ball game. Russo looked good playing LF. I hope he continue playing well.
Think Selig will fine Girardi for slow 9th inning? lol.
No, but Joe West will write a negative song about it.
So…is panic button time over yet?
Grandy coming back soon, Mo showed a marked improved within a day, Logan is gone, and the return of an old friend. i would say so. Now we just have to wait for that offensive explosion at 3 + 4 to get the Yankees bulldozer going at full steam.
Unfortunately, panic button time is never over for some folks.
haha, my point exactly.
Pitching is back, but the offense has still gone the way of the Pirates.
Keep the Kevin Russo when Granderson comes back Friday.
Have you noticed how much playing time (over Randy Winn) he’s been getting? I think Girardi really likes him, and I’m not sure he cares for Winn that much.
I hope this is the case, I really don’t like Winn.
That is what I want and I am alone.
Not really. People, including myself, have suggested it.
I know.
Russo’s the man. I like him a lot and I’ve been saying for a couple years now that I wanted to see him get time in the Bigs. Howeva, once Grandy comes back, I’d like to see Russo get regular turns in the OF, like everyday. That won’t happen here. Stick with Winn as the 4th OF for another month, if he turns it around in limited time, great. If he continues to play like he is, Adios Randy and Hola Kevin. If Russo can get 20ish starts in the OF between now and then I think it will be a great help to him, and us.
Lulz, Twink fans are saying they lost bc we cheated. Haha.
ahahah how did we cheat? Pettitte took HGH like seven years ago?
Because Pettitte went out to warm up, giving Mo more time to get ready.
Last I checked, that isn’t even remotely cheating
Haha yup. Our cheating led to Rauch giving up the deciding HR.
In their defense, having Mo is akin to cheating.
There is nothing in the rules saying we can’t have demi-gods on the team.
“He needs to pitch in a higher league, if there is one. Ban him from baseball. He should be illegal.”
-Twins manager
For the record, this is Tom Kelly, in April of 1996. Incredible.
He was right
Lol. I just read comments on a Twins blog(TwikieTown, I think). There saying we cheated because Pettitte warmed up but was taken out for Mo. Umm, ok, so where in the rule book does it state that doing that is against the rules? Or is it against the “unwritten” rules, like running across a mound is…
In other news, everyone’s favorite umpire Joe West got himself into more controversy today by calling balks on Mark Buehrle when they clearly weren’t. Of course this led to some comic gold by Ozzie Guillen and even Mark Buehrle. I love Ozzie just because he provides constant comic gold.
there is rule for Selig to enforce. Slow to start off the inning.
Their views on ESPN are fascinating. They think ESPN has a Yankees’ bias. Somebody suggested they band Rivera and Pettite for no good reason. This asshole’s response?
…WTF?
Okay, new favorite comment, referring to the thing they claimed was cheating that wasn’t.
HAHAHAHA…
Most unenthusiastic homerun call ever…
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....8;c_id=nyy
haha. That makes me almost feel bad for Twinky fans.
Nick Swisher’s stick is demoralizing to mere mortals.
/take that how you want to’d
//double double entendre’d
This is hilarious:
LOL what?
From TwinkieTown, which is fun to read since the Yanks won:
I can think of 3 players on this team who, if I were an opposing player, I’d think were assholes. I’d probably dislike Posada, Joba, and A-Rod. But how do you figure that the Yanks have the second biggest amount of assholes to Nazi Germany? I just don’t see it.
Those Twins fans really hate the Yankees. One day has a signature with a quote from Bert Blyleven in it. The quote is, “A-Rod has that look about him. I’d drill him.”
Like, WTF?
O, beware, my lord, of jealousy; It is the green-eyed monster which doth mock The meat it feeds on…
Othello, right?
Yessir.
Shakespeare FTW!
Tim Lincecum’s look has transitioned from likable pothead to scary serial killer.
Twinkie Town is obsessed with Emo.