Yankees bring back Chad Gaudin

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Via Mark Feinsand, the Yankees have signed Chad Gaudin for bullpen depth, and he’s expected to be added to roster in time for tonight’s game. The Yanks released him at the end of Spring Training in favor of Sergio Mitre, a move that was greatly ridiculed around these parts. They only had to pay Gaudin $737,000 of termination pay (rather than his full $2.95M salary), and now they only have to pay him the pro-rated minimum from here on out since Oakland is on the hook for his 2010 contract after designating him for assignment. Gaudin posted an 8.83 ERA (but a 3.92 xFIP) in 17.1 IP for the A’s.

Feinsand mentions that Gaudin is being brought back to serve as the long man, so it’s possible that Mitre will be moved into a more leverage relief role, which Joe advocated yesterday. Both a 40-man and 25-man roster move are needed to accommodate his return. Bye bye Boone Logan?

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  • http://www.teamnerdrage.com dr mrs the yankee

    Is…is Boone Logan gone finally?

    • vin

      Wouldn’t surprise me to see Boone Logan start the 1st game today. Mauer, Morneau lead off and Kubel bats if anyone reaches. Of course Logan will probably walk Mauer, give up a double to Morneau, strike out Cuddyer and get Kubel to line out to Jeter who then doubles off Morneau.

    • rek4gehrig

      I so hope so….

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

      Is the champagne on ice?

  • vin

    Great news. He gives the Yanks a second swing man, to go along with Mitre. And I’m assuming the Yanks won’t be paying him the 3 million dollar salary.

  • yoo-boo

    lol.. you are slow.

    I love the way Yanks have handled on cheap moves. Cashman is a true Yankee.

    • pat

      OMG U WERE THE FIRST PERSON ON THE INTERWEBZ TO KNOW!!!!

      • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

        He knew before the interwebz, he has a direct line to Cashman.

        • Zack

          He IS Cashman

          • Templeton “Brendog” Peck

            and none of us still care.

            • Tom Zig

              Party ruiner.

              • Templeton “Brendog” Peck

                sorry ha. my bad. but according to nomaas i do hear cash$ wears killer hoodies…can you confirm you-boo?

                (today we spell redemption p-e-c-k)

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      You act like you know everything and you are the only one that does. Stop.

      • yoo-boo

        who says I know everything?

        • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK’s Mystique and Aura

          who says I know everything?

          Jesus, the Dali Lama, Stephen Hawking and Kevin Sorbo (of Hercules semi-fame), but I’m sure there are others. Good company!

          • Templeton “Brendog” Peck

            one of these is not like the other

            (pssst, it is the one that wasn’t real….)

            • Tom Zig

              Kevin Sorbo?

            • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK’s Mystique and Aura

              Don’t hate on Sorbo. I went with a religious/spiritual deity route. Sorbo was more fitting than others. Gotta roll with what you’re given, you know?

              • Templeton “Brendog” Peck

                psss, i meant jesus.

                • poster

                  Stop. Don’t get into this here. Not the time or place.

    • Tampa Yankee

      So, you are applauding yourself for breaking news in a different thread therefore making it off-topic and a no-no on this site… CONGRATULATIONS!

      • yoo-boo

        thank you I think. I did not know that it actually hurt your feeling.

        • http://twitter.com/joero23 The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

          Classic lame-ass RAB commenter response #586:

          Don’t respond to what someone actually said, just accuse them of only responding because their feelings were hurt.

  • yoo-boo

    Repeated what was said in previous topic.

    It looks like Aceves is done for season with back surgery and Logan is opted back to minor after the afternoon game.

  • Tampa Yankee

    What kind of roster moves need to take place in order to do this? I’m going to guess Aceves to the 60-day DL for a place on the 40-man and bye bye Boone for a spot on the 25-man? With Granderson coming back on Friday, I’m guessing Russo would go down but I’m afraid that they’ll send him down for Gaudin to carry the extra pitcher. That would mean someone else with an option would go down Friday (Boone) or they’d have to cut someone, Winn in particular.

    • vin

      Either way, Boone is gone when Curtis comes up in a few days.

      • Tampa Yankee

        I’m not so sure though. Like I said, I wonder if Russo goes down now and they release Winn on Friday. This would mean they are carrying 13 pitchers. That’s my worry.

        • Templeton “Brendog” Peck

          they will not release randy winn

          • The Three Amigos

            I dont think this is necessarily true, now that he has been benched in favor of a rookie.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

    HAhahaha. I’m going to sit here and laugh.

  • Chris

    Any thoughts on whether this is a long-term move, or just for a few games?

    • yoo-boo

      Right now, it depends on Ace’s situation. It is easy to say Gaudin stays for a season since Ace faces a potential back surgery and Yanks are not going to wait for him. we will see.

  • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK’s Mystique and Aura

    Peace, Boone. From his Wikipedia page: “Boone Logan is an avid dungeons and dragons player. He usually plays a dwarf elf wizard specializing in switch spell-casting and magical rejuvenation spells.”

    Soon Boone to can root for the Yankees from the comforts of his mother’s basement. I feel a kindred connection to him now.

    Obviously Gaudin wasn’t hot stuff with the A’s, but his strikeouts were good (10.4) and walks were also encouraging (2.69).

    While he may be no more than a depth move, I thought it was foolish to squander so much starting pitching depth in the first place; going from CC, AJ, Andy, Javy, Hughes, Joba, Mitre, Gaudin to CC, AJ, Andy, Javy, Hughes, Mitre can really catch up to a team.

  • http://twitter.com/Cnight_UP Cnight_UP

    Please let this be the end of Boone Logan….

  • Kevin M.

    Not a terrible move, but it’s hard for me to defend having Gaudin on the team over Melancon. They are really trying to destroy their best relief prospect with the way they’ve handled him over the past two seasons.

    • http://twitter.com/marcos_aguirre Marcos

      “They are really trying to destroy their best STARTING prospect with the way that they’ve handled him over the past two seasons”
      FTFY
      /Joba’d

      On a serious note though, this isn’t hurting Melancon that badly, he’s logging in his innings down in AAA, sure he has already proven himself at that level, but he’s still young and has time. I’m sure he’ll be with the team late this season and (hopefully) post up numbers like the ones in AAA.

  • http://5846.tumblr.com/ ledavidisrael

    Rightyyyykilllaaaahhhh

    • Templeton “Brendog” Peck

      not this yr. everyone is hittign over 320 this yr against gaudin…wtf happened

      • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

        BABIP against vs. RHB is .448 and he does have a 14/2 K/BB ratio.

        The scary thing against RHB is the 4 HR’s.

        • Thomas

          His HR/FB is 22.7%, some of that is likely due to bad pitching, but I still think it will drop.

  • vin

    I really like both Mitre and Gaudin, but only as the 11th and 12th men on the staff. Logan has a good arm, but he’s the least effective member of the pen. Having a LOOGY be the 12th man doesn’t make a lot of sense because LOOGY’s almost always get used in high leverage situations.

    Filling the back of your pen with guys who can provide multiple league average (or close to it) innings and spot starts is the smart move.

    • yoo-boo

      Without Logan, it will reduce a mixed and matched crap. Gaudin and Park better pitch well against lefties. Otherwise they will bring Logan back.

      • Templeton “Brendog” Peck

        chad gaudin has never pitched well against lefties and should nto be given any opportunity to for the ny yankees

        • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

          Unless they are down 8 runs an need innings.

        • yoo-boo

          I mean Gaudin, Mitre and Park need to pitch well enough for Giardi not to bring Logan back. I expect Gaudin will be used in meaningless situation anyway. That will leave Mitre and Park to do Ace’s job.

  • H.W. Plainview

    Mitre should still be the long man. Gaudin should face RHBs only.

  • ADam

    This could be an amaing couple of Days in Yankee Land…. Today we dump Logan and Friday Dump Winn… man that would dump some serious dead weight…

  • http://twitter.com/j_sprouse2213 (The Real) James

    With Ace now down for MO knows how long, i really do like this move.

    Gaudin was horrid in Oak numbers wise (as noted in the story though he might have ran into some bad luck) but i think coming back here will be just what the doctor ordered.

    with that said…i really don’t know if i can endorse the ‘Mitre in high leverage’ stuff quite yet.

    • Rose

      Gaudin was horrid in Oak numbers wise

      Depending on how you meant this to be interpreted – he actually did significantly worse on the road.

    • vin

      I agree. In my mind, Mitre keeps his current role, and Gaudin replaces Logan. CHoP replaces Aceves

      Closer: Mo
      EIG: Joba
      Quality reliever: Robertson
      LOOGY: Marte
      Flex reliever: Park
      Innings Eater/Spot Starter #1: Mitre
      Innings Eater/Spot Starter #2: Gaudin

      Cashman and Girardi talked all winter about getting the team to be more flexible. Ditching the ineffective LOOGY (Logan) and replacing him with a guy like Gaudin is a good start to making the pen more effective. Even if Gaudin pitches as poorly as Logan, Girardi is less likely to use him in important situations because he’s a righty.

      Replacing Logan with Gaudin; keeping Thames off the field; and not over-exposing the bench guys are all little things that will help win games.

      • Mister Delaware

        I’d rather see Mitre as the sole long man with Gaudin being the righty version of Marte. It seems like the more set-in-(logical)-stone guys Girardi has, the better (or less frustrating) he is. Otherwise, assuming Flex means close game bridge if the starter is out early, I like it.

  • A.D.

    .432 BABIP…..jeeez.

    • Thomas

      And like at 20% HR/FB percentage.

  • Thomas

    What do Gaudin and Boone Logan have in common? Neither can get out lefties.

    • Mister Delaware

      Ouch.

      Love the move but hope he’s used in short relief rather than opening up Mitre for that work. Would really love to see him used strictly as a ROOGY (or RTOGY, as the lineups may go). Plenty of big-time RHB in the AL East he could be effective against. That 14/2 SO/BB (26.4% SO%) is all I care about from his 2010 stats.

  • Rose

    Gaudin posted an 8.83 ERA (but a 3.92 xFIP) in 17.1 IP for the A’s.

    27 hits, 17 runs, 5 HR, and 3 hit batters in 17.1 IP??

    A sophisticated… http://www.istockphoto.com/fil.....stinks.jpg (SAFE)

    Though a 10.9 SO/9 ain’t that bad.

    • Tom Zig

      Ohhhhhh a new one!

      I do wonder where you find these sometimes. Do you just search for “random guy squeezing his nose”?

  • A.D.

    Gaudin’s ability to put up a terrible ERA with a good FIP/weird peripherals is impressive.

    • Mister Delaware

      Poor man’s Jeremy Bonderman.

      • mustang

        A very poor man.
        LOL

  • Cecala

    The Squirrel from last night + http://clubseatsports.com/wp-c.....gaudin.jpg = foreshadowing of today’s events.

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

      heh.

    • Templeton “Brendog” Peck

      that thing is insane.

  • The Evil Umpire

    Cashmoney’s doing some mad pimpin’, now with Gaudin back for 2/3 of the season for 1/3 of the money.

    • mustang

      And he is probably not worth that yes Cashman is pimpin.
      LOL

  • phughesisgod

    There we go. Some good news! Gaudin is a pretty good pitcher. Hes struggled this year, but he did do some good things for us last year.

    • mustang

      “Hes struggled this year” key words

      “but he did do some good things for us last year.”
      I’m sorry and that matters in what way this year.

      • FIPster Doofus

        So Gaudin can’t turn it around? Teixeira did a lot of good things last year, but he’s struggling this year. Doesn’t mean I’m going to give up on him. Same with Gaudin, who could be useful in the bullpen; it’s worth a try.

        • mustang

          I agree that it’s worth a try, but comparing Teixeira to Gaudin no just no.
          There not even in the same world.

          • FIPster Doofus

            I’m not comparing them.

            • mustang

              Teixeira was good last year he is struggling this year lets not give up on him.

              Gaudin was good last year he is struggling this year lets not give up on him.

              That’s not comparing?

              Forget the fact that one is one of the best players in baseball while the other is journeymen reliever.

              I have more faith in Tex for some reason.

  • mustang

    Don’t understand this love affair with Gaudin?
    The Yankees cut him and he sign with the A’s posted an 8.83 ERA then they cut him (which tells a lot right there).

    Its a ok move I guess he will probably be better then Logan which isn’t saying much.

    I don’t think that this falls under the “Great news” headline.

    • mustang

      27 hits, 17 runs, 5 HR, and 3 hit batters in 17.1 IP

      I know I’m not much of a numbers guys, but I don’t think that this is good.

      • Mister Delaware

        Used properly (i.e. never facing a lefty in a non-mopup role), Gaudin has decent value. Since 2007, he’s struck out 264 of the 1,010 righties he’s faced (26.1%) and walked only 77 (7.6%, 3.43 SO/BB). And he’s done it consistently, there isn’t a single year spike carrying the overall numbers; no SO% below 25%, no SO/BB below 3.25. That’s worth carrying on an 11/12 man staff.

        Hopefully this is all in Girardi’s binder.

        • mustang

          You should call the A’s and tell them they didn’t use him properly.
          I’m sorry they are probably losing Ace and gaining Gaudin that’s not cause for celebration.
          He is worth a try on a short leash and that’s about it any else is looking at it with RAB goggles

          • Mister Delaware

            “You should call the A’s and tell them they didn’t use him properly.”

            Is that humor?

            “I’m sorry they are probably losing Ace and gaining Gaudin that’s not cause for celebration.”

            Who here has said they’re happy with the tradeoff? People like Gaudin because unlike, say, Tim Redding, there’s a skillset you can point to. Gaudin is very good at striking out righties. There are times in a ball game when a righty is hitting and you’d like a guy who can minimize the chances of a ball in play. Gaudin offers that. I mean, its not like Gaudin’s signing is what made Aceves’ back worse. I imagine you know there’s no relation between the two events and no one is celebrating Aceves being out because it meant Gaudin’s return. Just like some people were happy to see Miranda get a shot; that didn’t mean they were anti-Nick Johnson. Finding a logical silver lining isn’t an awful trait for one to have.

            “He is worth a try on a short leash and that’s about it any else is looking at it with RAB goggles”

            Are RAB goggles what people who prefer statistical analysis over snap opinions and knee-jerk reactions wear? Sometimes insults aren’t insulting.

            • mustang

              “Are RAB goggles what people who prefer statistical analysis over snap opinions and knee-jerk reactions wear?”

              Nope. Its people who like a player just because the thread writers here like him forget that his numbers this year are for shit.
              Hey I hope Gaudin works out, but I’m not holding my breath.

              • mustang

                and this:
                27 hits, 17 runs, 5 HR, and 3 hit batters in 17.1 IP is not ” snap opinions and knee-jerk reactions”
                It’s called what you guys say statistical proof.

                • Mister Delaware

                  First of all: Its not an echo chamber in here. Many of us like the same players because we value the same things, not because we’re told to like them.

                  Second of all: To repeat myself, Gaudin works as a ROOGY, not as a 5th starter or a blindly used 7th inning guy or any of that. The only numbers that matter in Oakland are his numbers against righties. And, as mentioned ad nauseum, you can point to fluky bad luck in both the BABIP and HR/FB rates. This shit is proven; over the long term pitchers don’t give up hits on only 21.3% of their balls in play (which is why Livan will regress) and they don’t give up hits on 43.2% of balls in play (which is why Gaudin will improve). Your points are no more salient because you can’t grasp this.

                  • mustang

                    Lets just leave it at we will see. Just please don’t forget our debate if they light up Mr. Gaudin like the Rockefeller Center Christmas Tree.

                    • Mister Delaware

                      Sure. And maybe play around with stuff like BABIP and HR/FB and career splits over at Fangraphs. You might understand why people aren’t as freaked out as you are.

                      I’ll even link it for you!

                      http://www.fangraphs.com/stats.....position=P

                  • mustang

                    No need I just like to watch the game and see what happens in live action. Not freaking out at all just not as enthusiastic as some of you guys are about Mr. Gaudin

        • mustang

          “Hopefully this is all in Girardi’s binder.”

          That and all the Secrets of the Universe.

  • Frank

    This BP is suddenly not looking all that good. No Ace, an ineffective Logan and Park, now Gaudin. Who’s next? Bruney. He just got released.

    • mustang

      That will probably be the next ” Great news”.

  • bonestock94

    I called this a week ago, what a beast

    • Mister Delaware

      So you were the guy who predicted a team would resign a player they didn’t really want to release in the first place. Well done, Bonestradamus.

      • bonestock94

        Thanks man, its about time I got some recognition.

        • Mister Delaware

          Predict something else. I’ll totally back you if it turns out to be right.

          • bonestock94

            2010 champions

  • clare

    go grab bruney, we need to look at him again.