Game 101: One or two?


I love it when the Yankees do this to opposing pitchers. (AP Photo/Amy Sancetta)

The Rays already beat the lowly Tigers today, so tonight’s game will determine if the Yankees go into this weekend’s series in Tampa one game up, or two games up. Of course they’d love to have that extra cushion, but they’re going to have to survive Dustin Moseley’s first start of the season tonight. Joe Girardi indicated that Moseley is good for up to 100 pitches tonight, he was starting in Triple-A Scranton after all, so hopefully they manage to squeeze six innings out of him while working Indians’ starter Mitch Talbot over.

Here’s the lineup, sans a resting Jorge Posada

Jeter, SS
Granderson, CF
Teixeira, 1B
A-Rod, 3B
Cano, 2B
Swisher, DH
Gardner, LF
Cervelli, C
Curtis, RF

And on the bump, it’s one of the Chad Ho Moseley monster.

No weather issues tonight, thankfully. First pitch is set for 7:05pm ET and can be seen on YES. Enjoy.

Categories : Game Threads


  1. JGS says:

    So I finally caved and joined twitter. Follow tips?

  2. forensicnucchem says:

    It’s nice seeing Gardner up with the real hitters where he’ll at least be a better option with guys on base than Cervelli and Curtis.

    • CS Yankee says:

      In the long run, I would rather have him in the leadoff spot.

      • forensicnucchem says:

        So would I, but you know they would never actually drop Jeter way down where he should be at this point.

        • Paramecium Jones says:

          Just like Teixeira was moved out of the 3 spot a month or 2 ago?

          • forensicnucchem says:

            When Tex is struggling he still walks and shows some power, Jeter doesn’t. Jeter has a nice, shiny .606 OPS this month, and has been getting worse each month this year. Tex you knew would start slow and has mostly gotten better each month, not worse.

        • CS Yankee says:

          I still like him in his old two spot as he sees less pitches, gardner is a better base stealer and Jeet’s usually lives opposite field.

          Still believe in old 2, but think the truth is somewhere betwwen the ’09 & ’10 numbers. His WAR this year is still like #3 in the AL for SS…not bad considering how bad he has been (for his/our standards)

          • Total Dominication says:

            I don’t think you realize just how bad SS in the AL are. The only other good SS (Tulo, Hanley, Reyes, Rollins to an extent) are in the NL.

            • CS Yankee says:

              I do…but would strike Reyes off your list & Rollins isn’t all that either (Tulo was the clear NL MVP in ’07).

              • bexarama says:

                I’d have taken Wright and Holliday before Tulo in 2007, easily. But yes, Rollins and Reyes are not on the level of Hanley and Tulo, though they are better than most.

                • CS Yankee says:

                  I rate the glove equally with the stick (not saying you don’t…just saying), Tulo’s range & cannon is beyond impressive.

                • Total Dominication says:

                  I know the first 2 are far superior to the other two, but aren’t they all SS with above average bats?

  3. Carlosologist says:

    I love how Gardner went from potential trade bait/ 4th OF to starting LF and essentially a white Carl Crawford with less power.

  4. Total Dominication says:

    Why isn’t Miranda DHing?

    • Guest says:

      Girardi said he wanted to give “Swisher” a day. My guess is that Joe gave Nick a half day (achilles soreness last week) and Jorge a full day (knee issues) tonight so that he go with the A lineup all weekend in Tampa. (Except the one game where Jorge DH’s and Cisko the Kid catches).

  5. forensicnucchem says:

    Mitch Talbot OPS against:

    Bases emtpy: .674
    Men on base: .869
    RISP: .990
    RISP, 2 outs: .878

    Just gotta get guys on base and maybe he starts to fold a bit.

    • Carlosologist says:

      Isn’t that the book on most pitchers?

      • forensicnucchem says:

        Not sure, I’d have to look more closely, but the 200-300 point difference just really stood out to me.

        • forensicnucchem says:

          It appears the MLB average with bases empty is .717, men on is .757, RISP is .754, RISP 2 outs .725.

          Obviously the averages are going to be closer together and lower, but it still shows how huge a gap he has.

    • JGS says:

      by PA:

      bases empty: 306
      men on base: 198
      RISP: 123
      RISP, 2 outs: 52

      • forensicnucchem says:

        Yeah, I just threw the RISP 2 outs in there because it was high too, but the ones over 100 are ok to look at for a little bit of a trend. At some point you can’t eliminate everything because of the dreaded SSS.

  6. theyankeewarrior says:

    Could this be the worst Yankee trade deadline ever?

  7. Not sure if that slide was necessary.

  8. All I ask for
    All I pray
    A steady rollin’ Moseley gonna come our way…

    Please throw at least five innings.

  9. Same pitch back to back. Not a good idea when you don’t throw mid 90′s.

  10. I think Kenny just forgot about Grady.

  11. bexarama says:

    I miss you Andy Pettitte (sobs)

  12. Angelo says:


    Apparently soxandpinstripes.net is starting up again. They are changing their website name to redsoxyankeesonline.com in about 10 days.

  13. forensicnucchem says:

    He totally stuck his arm/shoulder out there.

  14. Cabrera leaned into that shit. Ridiculous.

  15. Brad Toughy says:


  16. forensicnucchem says:

    Eh, I think he would’ve had a chance at 2 there…

  17. Poopy Pants says:

    He should’ve hit Carlos Santana for that song ‘Smooth’.

  18. forensicnucchem says:

    Well, this is not starting very well…

    Still could get out of it though.

  19. Well this is certainly not going as planned.

  20. Total Dominication says:

    Shit, dp now!

  21. Carlosologist says:

    Andy has to come back from the DL ASAP.

  22. Mike Axisa says:

    I’m stunned that those four shutout innings of relief against the Royals were not indicative of Moseley’s true talent.

  23. Ross in Jersey says:

    It would be nice if one of these replacement starters could, you know, get out of the first inning without giving up a run.

  24. Well, aside from the pitch count, that wasn’t awful.

  25. rek4gehrig says:

    Could’ve been much worse

  26. forensicnucchem says:

    Well, that was painful, but it could’ve been much worse. And who knows if the ump doesn’t blow the HBP call.

  27. JGS says:

    Is this a Liberty Medical ad without Wilford Brimley? For shame, Liberty Medical

  28. Total Dominication says:

    That could’ve been much worse.

    • Hummingbird S. says:

      But it was just the first inning. What can we expect in the following innings? It won’t be pretty.

      • forensicnucchem says:

        Well, with 30+ pitches per inning, there won’t be too many following innings to worry about for him…

      • Paramecium Jones says:

        See, I heard he was a “you better get to this guy the first time through the order or you’re in for a long night type of pitcher”


  29. Mike Axisa says:

    So here’s a question. They have those special balls for A-Rod’s 600th, but what’s stopping someone from catching one of those as a foul ball, and claiming it’s the homer ball?

    • forensicnucchem says:

      They’re individually numbered and the ump knows which number is in play each time, so he’ll know which number is the homer ball when it’s hit.

    • Poopy Pants says:

      I think they each have a number. Ump probably takes note of that.

    • CaptainRaf says:

      cuz when he hits it i guess they’ll be able to know which ball he hit based on the ones in the box still and the ones the umpire didnt put into play

    • Kit says:

      I think the umpire notes which ball number it was. It’s flawed as hell, but he has to pick them up in order for a reason, no?

    • Dr Van Nostrand says:

      But the real question is why do they look like theyve been written on with a sharpie. Seems pretty easy to duplicate. Catch a random foul ball and mark it with the number associated with A-Rod’s 600th. I hope they have a stamp or something that they aren’t showing on the broadcast

  30. Mike HC says:

    Random question:

    What position has Miguel Tejada been playing this year? Third? Short?

  31. kunaldo says:

    Any clue why swisher isn’t always in the 2 hole? I mean, sure, Grandy’s hot, but Swish has been great @ #2 (cue doody jokes).

  32. How was that a strike?

  33. Poopy Pants says:

    Will the Lofton bobble head be Kenny or James?

  34. I hate it when Posada’s not in there. The power just goes completely out after the sixth spot.

  35. RalphieD says:

    great ab by gardner

  36. Carlosologist says:

    Apparently everybody took some lessons from the Nick Johnson School of Hitting in BP today.

  37. JGS says:

    Cervelli fail

  38. Ross in Jersey says:

    3 walks, and Cervelli swings at the first fucking pitch.

  39. Mike Axisa says:

    He’s walked three of the last four batters, why take a pitch? I fucking hate Frankie. He’s so worthless.

  40. This is me being over Francisco Cervelli.

  41. forensicnucchem says:

    Nice long AB after nice long AB

    and then Cervelli does his best to kill the whole damn thing.

  42. bexarama says:

    That was what we call “not a great at-bat” Cisco

    • bexarama says:

      Also is there somewhere where people are like, reasonable about Francisco? It’s either people murdering him for being a backup catcher or hysterically squealing fangirls.

      • Paramecium Jones says:

        If there are, not many comment here about it..

      • Hummingbird S. says:

        Well, he can’t hit and his defense is below average. A reasonable stance would be to not like him and I see that all the time.

      • Kit says:

        I think some people here are actually pretty reasonable from what’s been said in the past. I’m personally apathetic towards Cervelli. He’s a back up catcher, so I don’t expect stellar performances, but I would like him to be useful when it calls for it. He wasn’t useful in that AB, but I can’t say I’m surprised.

  43. Cy Farnsworth says:

    Can’t say that one totally surprised me…

  44. kunaldo says:

    freakin cervelli. hey, lets swing at the first pitch. it’s not like talbots not walking everybody or anything. argh.

  45. Newbie says:

    Ugh Cervelli.. Now, his only redeeming quality is his eyes.

  46. Total Dominication says:

    Really, a 1st pitch dp, that was literally the absolute worst thing he could have done. Fuck.

  47. baby carlos says:

    So swinging at the first pitch always encouraged, especially when a DP is possible.


    Derek Jeter.

  48. Guest says:

    What’s the update on Jesus’defense this season? Is he showing improvement/regressing?

    Love Cervelli’s attitude/grit/moxy/ecksteinian peskiness, etc., but..uh…he can’t hit.

    2011 Jesus and Jorge split catching DH duties. Is this possible?

    • I’d put my money on it.

      • Mike HC says:

        I don’t know if Girardi is going to roll with two horrible defensive catchers (assuming Posada continues to regress as he ages).

        Maybe they carry Cervelli as a third catcher in that scenario though. Probably do.

        • forensicnucchem says:

          I can totally see this more likely than just the two of them. And I think he’d actually split the time more between Cervelli and Montero, with Posada largely DH’ing.

  49. Hummingbird S. says:

    Cervelli fucking sucks…nothing new though.

  50. Mike HC says:

    Mosley seemed all “aw shucks” in that mini interview

    He is in for a rude awakening at some point, hahah

  51. Ansky says:

    its amazing how hot that cervelli was at beginning of the season with RISP. he is still over 300 and i swear he hasnt had a hit since May

  52. Tom Zig says:

    it’s possible to walk Shelley Duncan?

  53. Valbuena doing his best Cervelli impression.

  54. JGS says:

    Laziest DP ever

  55. Paramecium Jones says:

    I just noticed an odd pattern. It seems when a player does something bad people complain about them. When they do something good, people say good things about them. It’s a SSS, but maybe if I go through other game threads it will turn into something I could use to project future comments.

  56. forensicnucchem says:

    Who says Cervelli sucks? See, he knocked their starter out in the 2nd inning…

  57. Mike Axisa says:

    Oh good, lots of bullpen after lots of bullpen last night.

  58. Mike Nitabach says:

    Anybody know why Sunday’s game is at 1:40PM? That’s a weird time.

  59. j_Yankees says:

    Cervelli just plays too damn much.. If he was out there once a week or something like that it wouldn’t be an issue. He’d just be another back up catcher who doesn’t hit much.

  60. JobaWockeeZ says:

    And to think Cervelli has trade value to some teams.

  61. Mike Nitabach says:

    Granderson looks hapless trying to bunt.

  62. Xnyles says:

    Carlos has an impressive arm

  63. Mike Nitabach says:

    But he made it.

  64. Ross in Jersey says:

    Hate to see a kid get hurt, but I’d feel a lot better if the Yankees go into tampa with a 2 game lead rather than 1.

    Why is Granderson bunting :(

  65. Carlosologist says:

    So, Santana is like Jorge except he can play defense.

  66. FIPster Doofus says:

    One of our hottest hitters bunting with two men on and no out? I hate it. A lot.

  67. Guest says:

    So…hottest hitter on team bunts after pitcher walked first batter…why?

  68. Ross in Jersey says:

    Come on Manny, walk Tex to face A-rod. You know you want to!

  69. Dalelama says:

    I dont like the sac there as Grandy has been hot and a new pitcher just in the game.

  70. rek4gehrig says:

    This is going to be a very long game

  71. Mike Nitabach says:

    Granderson is horrible against lefties: just barely over .200.

  72. CaptainRaf says:

    get out of this with a couple of runs. none of the bases loaded DP nonsense again

  73. Carlosologist says:

    Tex was intentionally unintentionally walked, so A-Rod hits a grand slam here?

  74. bexarama says:

    Oh boy. Just get at least a run home, k?

  75. Xnyles says:

    Im tired of this 600 thing and i thought the balls had some special markings on it is just a R with a number

  76. Mike Nitabach says:

    The ink has special authenticatable DNA in it.

  77. Kit says:

    Alex, I will be happy with a bases clearing double. But I really want 600 to be a grand slam. Just sayin’.

  78. forensicnucchem says:

    Just hit a single please…

  79. baby carlos says:

    this will not end well, I fear

  80. Mike Axisa says:

    Sounded like a broken bat.

  81. Ross in Jersey says:

    Urgggh… that had the sound off the bat. Damn!

    Oh well, got the runner in. Good at-bat.

  82. forensicnucchem says:

    Not quite a hit, but at least it gets the tying run home…

  83. Mike Nitabach says:

    Sac fly is good.

  84. baby carlos says:

    Can we hindsight manage….. wasted out by Granderson bunting.

  85. CaptainRaf says:

    ill take that. Cano drive in Jeter and we’ll all be happier.

  86. Carlosologist says:

    I’m excited way too easily. Oh well, game tying sac fly is fine.

  87. Guest says:

    Good pitch to hit. Looked like he just missed it.

  88. Angelo says:

    Tie game. It could be worse.

  89. Disappointing inning.

    • forensicnucchem says:

      Twice in a row. Bases loaded twice with 1 out, just one run. They’re not going to give these free walks all game long, most likely. Gotta start hitting too.

  90. Guest says:

    Ugh. That could have been better.

  91. CaptainRaf says:

    only 1 run out of the last two innings is disappointing.

  92. CS Yankee says:

    That SF actually lowered our WP from 49 to 47%.

    You can’t predict baseball.

  93. whozat says:

    Bases loaded with one out twice in two innings…one run. Ew.

  94. Jose the Satirist says:

    I’m late to the party. Has Arod hit one out yet?

  95. j_Yankees says:

    Single, BB, Sac Bunt, BB, Sacf Fly, out.

    /Angels Baseball’d

  96. Hummingbird S. says:

    It’s amazing that we only have 1 run after all those baserunners…

  97. CS Yankee says:

    Hey Moseley has lowered his BA against to .186…could be the next Aaron Small?

  98. JGS says:

    Wow. That was unexpectedly efficient

  99. ShuutoHeat (GGBG > Crawford) says:

    Is it me? Or did all the hits sound like they were going to go far?

  100. baby carlos says:

    Give Showalter 2 years before he is fired. As long as Angelos is in charge, jinx!

  101. Jose the Satirist says:

    Soriano, Sax and ?

  102. forensicnucchem says:

    Nice. Any bets on Gardner bunting??? ugh…

  103. Mike Nitabach says:

    Now that’s a fucken bunt!

  104. RalphieD says:

    interesting bunt there gardy…..good result

  105. xnyles says:

    Lets see Frankie do something here

  106. Jose the Satirist says:

    Quantity of bunts does not indicate quality of the bunter. Come on Kenny.

  107. Pat D says:

    So I just got here and, sorry to say, don’t feel like scrolling through a couple hundred posts. Why did Talbot leave? Did he pull an Andy?


  108. Of course the time he hits the damn ball hard, it goes right at someone.

  109. j_Yankees says:

    so i bunted with Granderson but not Cisco.

    Girardi explain please sir.

  110. Mike Nitabach says:

    Can someone explain why the fuck Cervelli didn’t bunt?

  111. Dalelama says:

    Why in the hell wasnt Cervelli bunting?

  112. forensicnucchem says:

    Well, that was an ugly AB.

  113. Dalelama says:

    Girardi is not a great in game manager.

  114. Ross in Jersey says:

    8/9/1 = Automatic outs with runners on base. Gotta love it.

  115. All-Star Carl says:

    God these are the worse kinda games.

  116. bexarama says:

    Ew guys, just ew.

  117. RalphieD says:

    on a positive note, perez must be done for now…most pitches hes thrown all year by far

  118. rek4gehrig says:


  119. Dalelama says:

    If jeter continues to stink how low do the Yanks go in the offseason, $15m per for three?

  120. Dalelama says:

    Moseley not looking bad for a number 5.

  121. bexarama says:

    Moseley seems to have settled in nicely. Of course, because I said that, he’s going to have a disaster inning next inning.

  122. BEST.

  123. forensicnucchem says:

    That was graceful…

  124. boogie down says:

    An (almost) Infield Double!

  125. Kit says:

    Granderson! That was gutsy and it worked, but don’t try it again!

  126. Dalelama says:

    Curtis hustling…like it

  127. Carlosologist says:

    The hustle double. An anomaly performed by nary a Yankee.

  128. S.King says:

    anyone else notices that tex is not that far behind jeter in BA right now…

  129. If this dude has a changeup, now would be the time to use it.

    /hoping it doesn’t happen

  130. rek4gehrig says:

    C’mon Arod…..hit 600 already

  131. larryf says:

    16 HR and 83 rbi’s nice barry Bonds would have 28 rbi’s

  132. They are getting around on this dude’s fastball.

  133. Angelo says:

    Solid contact. That sucks.

  134. rek4gehrig says:


  135. Ross in Jersey says:

    This is getting stupid. All these runners, can we get a base hit?

  136. RalphieD says:

    damn. cano is getting robbbbed…hes crushed two balls right at infielders

  137. forensicnucchem says:

    Wow, Laporta defense fail this inning. The Granderson ball and now that one.

  138. boogie down says:

    Matt LaPorta’s Awareness rating just went down in Madden ‘ll

  139. theyankeewarrior says:

    Anyone know the record for most base runners/fewest runs in a MLB game?

  140. All-Star Carl says:

    Yeah that what we need Swish. Swing for the fences.

  141. Kit says:

    Wow, Swish looked pretty heated there.

  142. bexarama says:

    How did that not go out? Argh.

  143. Mike HC says:

    Baseball gods getting even for AJ escaping trouble every inning last night.

  144. RalphieD says:

    they are hitting the ball incredibily well…hard contact all over the field…

  145. Dalelama says:

    A lot of warning track power tonite

  146. SouthernYankeeFan says:

    Man This many walks and one run. I can has RISP hitting??

  147. forensicnucchem says:

    All these chances they’ve given the Yanks. 6 walks, an error, a couple other defensive misplays…

    Eventually you would think they have to get a hit with RISP, right???

  148. boogie down says:

    I suspect tonight’s DoTF will be juicy…that’s all I’m gonna say.

  149. Januz says:

    Too many missed opportunities tonight. I really wonder how much Jeter will be getting on his next contract? He has not been clutch this season at all. Those people who think it will multi-year at 20-25 per might be sadly mistaken. If he does not step it up, it might be a 1 year plus a reasonable option.

    • nathan says:

      Jeter’s next contract will not be paying him for what the Yanks expect him to do but for what he has already done. His contract will be unaffected by his overall stats this year, whether he heats it up or yucks it up.

      I expect nothing short of a 4 year 25+ mill deal.

  150. Hummingbird S. says:

    This is ridiculous…

  151. Ross in Jersey says:

    Welp, pretty sure Moseley is going to get at least another start regardless of how this game goes.

    • Pat D says:

      In the Stadium vs. the Jays. Will be interested to see if the balls go flying.

      • Ross in Jersey says:

        Sometimes the best way to stifle a homer-happy offense like the Jays is to throw junkerballer like Moseley. We’ll see how it goes…

  152. All-Star Carl says:

    Montero 3 run bomb. Opp field.

  153. xnyles says:

    wow blink of eye the inning is over

  154. forensicnucchem says:

    Gotta give Moseley some credit. What would’ve been without the blown ump call on the HBP or if A-Rod had been able to turn 2 on Choo?

  155. Frigidevil says:

    So this is incredibly late, but around 7:30 Carlos Santana stole second base ‘unmolested’. Thank you John Sterling.

  156. Hummingbird S. says:

    Who would have thought our 2 best starters in this series would be Moseley and AJ?

  157. forensicnucchem says:

    Ugh, Park warming up…

  158. xnyles says:

    OMG do i see ChoP warming up?

  159. theyankeewarrior says:

    Highlights from my trip to Cleveland lastnight:

    * Sitting in LF behind the people with the 600 YES sign and getting on TV every time A-Rod came to bat

    * Sitting in the section where the kid in the Miami Heat LeBron jersey was causing problems. Saw an Indians fan dump beer on him. Saw a police officer witness it and then kick out the kid in the LeBron jersey instead of the kid who poured the beer.

    * Shook John Sterling’s hand on the street after the game while being 75% of the way to intoxicated… Reminded him that the Grandy Man Can.

    * Saw Alex walking down the same street and got a “thanks guys, take care”/hand slap from him after my and my two buddies wished him a happy bday

    * Saw the good AJ dominate

    * Saw about 22 hits

    If you live in WNY, Clevelend is a great place to catch the Yanks. Inexpensive, great seats, easy transportation from Hotels to park. Nice little downtown area to go out.

    • bexarama says:

      Wow, this is one hell of an awesome story.

      • theyankeewarrior says:

        We were so lucky. We were in the right place at the right time all night. Except for the fact that Alex didnt hit us his 600th.

        Which is obviously asking for a lot, lol.

    • Chris says:

      * Sitting in the section where the kid in the Miami Heat LeBron jersey was causing problems. Saw an Indians fan dump beer on him. Saw a police officer witness it and then kick out the kid in the LeBron jersey instead of the kid who poured the beer.

      Just curious… how was the kid causing problems?

      • theyankeewarrior says:

        At first, he wasn’t. He was just wearing his shirt and trying to mind his own business. But then he started back lashing on everyone and yelling at the crowd. You can imagine what he was saying. Taunting thousands of people. It was about to get ugly. So they escorted him out.

  160. larryf says:

    Mosely and God-ner: you can only hope to contain them

  161. rek4gehrig says:

    Run Gardy, Run

  162. I only caught the end of it, but what did Flash say in regards to Gardner making improvements? After this year, the only thing I can think of is more power, but I doubt that happens.

    • rek4gehrig says:

      That he should run early in the count

    • phughesisgod says:

      Well, he can hit for more power if he wants to. He even says it. He has a beautiful power swing, and can definitley hit some out. Its just that he knows his game, and always plays his game. But on that grand slam, you knew he wanted to get that grand slam from his first swing. He wants to get on the base pads by either walking or getting hits or infield singles and using his speed to get around the bases.

      I think he needs to improve with using his speed to his full advantage, and steal more often.

      • j_Yankees says:

        I can hit 30 HRs if i want to…but i would rather hit singles.


        • poster on a different computer who happens to be a deuce bag says:

          Actually, Ty Cobb said something like that.

          • Pat D says:

            He was a dead ball era player. He couldn’t have hit 30 HR’s no matter how hard he tried.

            And he was a racist.

            • poster on a different computer who happens to be a deuce bag says:

              I said something “like” that. And he wasn’t only a dead ball era player. He played both before and after Ruth revolutionized the game with the HR ball. He made his comments in response to the people who fawned over Ruth’s hitting ability (as well they should have!).

              Ruth responded paraphrased) with, “I could hit .600 if I was trying for them dinky singles.”

              What does him being a racist have to do with it?

              • Pat D says:

                Being racist? Eh, just saying.

                Yes, he played before and after, but his prime was before. I don’t really think he could have hit 30 HR a year before 1920 even if he had tried, just because of the conditions of the game.

                • poster on a different computer who happens to be a deuce bag says:

                  He hit over 350 in his final year in the majors. His prime lasted his entire fucking career.

                  He was an amazing player.

                  • Pat D says:

                    Not saying he wasn’t. What his last year, 1926? Weren’t a lot of people putting up big averages then? Not saying .350 isn’t impressive, just that it might not be quite as impressive as it sounds.

                    • poster on a different computer who happens to be a deuce bag says:

                      Sure averages were high, but that’s impressive whatever the year.

        • Chris says:

          Seriously, though, almost any baseball player could probably hit more home runs (well, except for maybe Dunn) if they just swing for the fences in every at bat. It would lead to a lot more outs and be worse for the team, but it would probably lead to more home runs.

  163. phughesisgod says:

    Gardy, I love you. You and Hughes are my 2 man crushes. But please can you just use that god like speed of yours and steal more often?

    • ZZ says:

      Stealing bases at the major league level is much more complicated than just being fast.

      Actually being fast in Gardner’s case probably worked against him in the minor leagues, because he likely never really had to learn how to read a pitcher and minor league pitchers are so bad at holding runners that he really did just steal purely on speed.

      Gardner is having incredible success from a rate point of view in his young career.

      However, he is also now having great success at the plate and getting on base at close to a 40% clip.

      With Gardner’s speed, the success rate he has shown, and how much he is getting on base now opposing coaches are going to spend more and more time preparing their pitchers for what to do to keep Gardner off balance.

      It is a game of adjustments especially for young players.

      • JGS says:

        Stealing bases at the major league level is much more complicated than just being fast.

        Repeated for emphasis

        See also: Washington, Herb

    • He’ll steal more as he learns the pitchers’ moves. It’s his first year as a full time player, so give him some time.

  164. Cecala says:

    Cervelli’s sucking is getting us prepared for the resurrection of Jesus

  165. forensicnucchem says:

    There you go Gardy. Now if only Curtis could make contact against a lefty…

  166. larryf says:

    and we await a steal of home when Jeter bats

  167. forensicnucchem says:


  168. boogie down says:

    O Captain, My Captain!

  169. forensicnucchem says:

    Wow!!! A hit with RISP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  170. Vinny "The Bull" Scafuto says:

    Oh my, was that a solid line drive to center??

  171. S.King says:

    thank you, captain.

  172. Dalelama says:


  173. bexarama says:

    Uh how in the world was that there a strike

  174. Wow, this Fox guy looks like a tooooooootal douche.

  175. Mike Axisa says:

    What’s the deal with this guy on the FOX business update? Is the bat on the shoulder necessary?

  176. Total Dominication says:

    This mustache commercial is just sooooooo creepy.

  177. forensicnucchem says:

    Cabrera tried to lean into that one too…

  178. Vinny "The Bull" Scafuto says:

    Paging, Guiseppe Franco.

  179. boogie down says:

    It’s reached the point where Kenny must not want to be right with Choo’s name.

  180. Vinny "The Bull" Scafuto says:


  181. boogie down says:

    That would’ve been a sick DP if the ball hadn’t been ruled dead.

  182. Cecala says:

    Would that be BABIP luck for the fielders?

  183. bexarama says:

    Why does Choo get a hit there?

  184. Dalelama says:

    That sucked, if that prevents a double play i am surprised runners dont do it more on purpose

    • forensicnucchem says:

      Most of the time the runner isn’t going and the ball would get to them where it would get through the 3.5 hole.

      • Dalelama says:

        But there are many pulled grounders where the runner could let the ball hit them and thereby eliminate the DP. Does the runner have the obligation to not let the ball hit him if possible?

  185. Santana’s power hasn’t translated to the bigs yet? .500 SLG and a .251 IsoP doesn’t do it for you, eh, Johnny?

  186. Matthew says:

    Can anyone point me in the direction of an article/website that I saw last year that broke down what MLB rosters would look like if players had remained with the team that owne thier original rights? For example: the Indians had Sabathia, Lee and Manny all on their “all-time active player roster.” Can anyone be of any help? It would be greatly appreciated.

  187. forensicnucchem says:

    ‘I wanna be like Choo’ doesn’t quite have the same ring to it as ‘I wannt be like Mike.’

  188. boogie down says:

    “He’s got a shortstop’s arm.”

  189. Kit says:

    Damn Cano, why are you so cool?

  190. larryf says:

    Robbie Cano-don’t Choo Know!!

  191. nathan says:

    Come on ARod, make it happen this inning

  192. larryf says:

    Tex is pretty open stanced from the right side too

  193. http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....uqqmfaFN/1

    Nicely done by (the good) Joel Sherman. If you’re waiting with bated breath for the Yanks to make a move by Saturday, I highly recommend reading it. The Yanks will have no problem cutting deals in August if need be. It’s also smart to wait and see what those needs actually are. It’s silly to get a reliever and DH if Aceves, Marte or Nick Johnson come back healthy. Also, Posada’s knee issue means he’ll need time @ DH for a while, if not longer.

    • BTW-That’s the correct spelling of “Bated”. It refers to short, quick breaths. Not ‘Baited’ which would be how you smell after eating worms.

    • j_Yankees says:

      You can NEVER have enough pitching. I don’t care what the status of guys on the DL are…if you can get some some relief help and not give up much/anyting, i’ll do it every day and twice on sundays.

      DH is a bit more touchy. I think its fair to want to leave that spot open for a Posada. That doesn’t really pump me full of joy because that means more Cervelli. but whatever. I really don’t think you can sit here and say, “well nick johnson MAY come back” and that be your reason for not getting a guy like Dunn though. If the right deal is there for Dunn (or anyone else you see as a DH type) and Cash feels good about it, You do it and worry about Nick Johnson when that time comes.

      • No, you totally misread what I said. I’m simply saying that a month from now, you’ll have a better idea of where those guys are health-wise. Not “expecting” anything, just saying you’ll have more info to work with.

  194. Jack says:

    Heh. The look on A-Rod’s face there was priceless.

  195. Dalelama says:

    Damn more warning track power

  196. bexarama says:

    Everything to LF dies, how annoying

    (A-Rod will promptly hit a bomb to LF to prove me wrong right???)

  197. forensicnucchem says:

    Nice, Jobasurance…

  198. Xnyles says:

    Cano Is going get a lot of money in the future

  199. Jack says:

    Robinson Cano is good at baseball.

  200. Fucking love you, Robbie.

  201. Obviously he’s in the midst of a career year, but when was the last time the Yanks had an offensive 2B like Robbie? Joe Gordon? He’s better than Knobloch, better than Gallego, better than Willie was. I can’t think of one, maybe there was one in the 60s.

  202. boogie down says:

    I really liked that alternate-angle replay of Cano’s HR

  203. Frigidevil says:

    6 rows back? Psh, could’ve gone 2nd deck if he tried

  204. larryf says:

    So are we going from Dustin to Justin next inning? or Chop first?

  205. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....-deal.html

    I don’t want to hear another word about Bernie Madoff from Mets fans. The Texas Rangers are BANKRUPT and they’re wheeling and dealing, while the Mets aren’t even mentioned in most deals.

    The Mets just aren’t willing to make any deals, for whatever reason. They’ve become the LA Clippers of the NY Baseball scene.

  206. All-Star Carl says:

    Thank you Cervy

  207. bexarama says:

    Wow, a Cleveland outfielder didn’t make a miracle play!

  208. forensicnucchem says:

    Well Poster, they each got one (Jeter’s liner and Cervelli’s bloop).

  209. Cecala says:

    Come on hurry this game up! Jersey shore is on in 10 minutes!

    • Pat D says:

      I’ve never watched that show, but I’ve heard enough about it to know that if all those people died in an explosion or something, i’d probably chuckle.

      • ShuutoHeat (GGBG > Crawford) says:

        chuckle? really? that’s mean…
        Because I know I would laugh out loud like a maniac.

      • Cecala says:

        So would the world, nobody really likes them, its just funny because they are everything people strive to not be in life.

        • Pat D says:

          Then why do you watch? Please don’t tell me it’s one of those “it makes me feel better about myself” or “it’s just so bad I can’t turn away” reasons.

  210. bexarama says:

    Oh no I like Carlos Santana. Be okay. :(

  211. Kit says:

    Posada feels no sympathy?

  212. All-Star Carl says:

    Grandy Man baby

  213. Cecala says:

    Smith to be DFA’d?

  214. YankeesJunkie says:

    Time to drop an A-bomb on this team.

  215. rek4gehrig says:

    alright..CHoP can come into the game after this half inning

  216. Jack says:

    CentaurSlam time.

  217. All-Star Carl says:

    Atta boy Alex

  218. YankeesJunkie says:

    Just another two run single. What a piece of trash.

  219. This is just, ugly, ugly Baseball. Can’t wait to play the Rays.

  220. larryf says:

    Is cameron Diaz in the stands?

  221. SF Yanks says:

    And the law of numbers restores order in the universe.

  222. bexarama says:

    Well that was really a very nice inning

  223. Cameron Diaz is dead?

  224. ShuutoHeat (GGBG > Crawford) says:

    Cano is sympathetic.

  225. All-Star Carl says:

    2007 A-Rod on this team. Make it happen.

  226. larryf says:

    16 hr 137 rbi’s 2010 final stats

  227. Gonzo says:

    Let’s talk turkey. Can we trade Mosely for, saaaaaay, Justin Upton, Dunn, or Downs now?

    Just kidding before I get roasted.

  228. YankeesJunkie says:

    Did not know interleague play was still going on.

  229. All-Star Carl says:

    Wilson Ramos for Matt Capps? What?

    • Gonzo says:

      No way, seriously?

    • j_Yankees says:


      :: pause ::


    • bexarama says:

      Please tell me this is happening, I will LOL 4-eva.

    • phughesisgod says:

      Haha. Please, let that happen. The Nationals just pulled off a HEIST! if that is true.

    • They could likely get better than that for Ramos. Wow.

      • forensicnucchem says:

        I don’t really know anything about Ramos, but his numbers don’t look overly impressive, while Capps is pretty good. What’s the deal with Ramos?

        • Gonzo says:

          Rizzo just flipped a non-tender offseason signing to a top-100 prospect. That is no small feat. He is having a bad year, but I still think Ramos will be a top-100 prospect.

          Again, catcher is a big deal. Didn’t we learn that on a DoTF thread?

          • forensicnucchem says:

            haha, yeah but truthfully I might be ok with dealing Romine for Capps, and Ramos is obviously blocked anyway (and older than Romine), so what’s the big deal against the Twins?

            • Gonzo says:

              Two things, they could have gotten a better return than Capps. Capps has never had a FIP below 3.00 in his career and had one close to 5 last year. He is not a consistent performer, and he isn’t that much of a performer. If you take out the Save category and look at his numbers, he’s not someone you trade a top 100 prospect for. Look at the Haren deal. Ramos might have more value than anyone in that deal.

              • forensicnucchem says:

                Eh, I’ll take your word for it, not worth arguing about since it’s not our guy, but his numbers just don’t do it for me. Might even be less impressive than Romine’s numbers because he’s older. But oh well…

                • Gonzo says:

                  No worries, but try to find 22 year old catchers in AAA in general. There aren’t really any. There is a reason out of all the prospects across ALL leagues and levels Ramos rated #58 by Baseball America pre-2010.

    • MirrorOnTheCeiling says:

      No way the Nats deal Dunn now because they will expect the world for Dunn nom that they got a prospect as good as Ramos for Capps.

      • Gonzo says:

        I know Ramos is having a bad year in AAA, but holy smokes. Rizzo just showed his old team, the Dbacks, how it’s done.

  230. larryf says:

    D-Roba,Choppa, Joba and on to Tampa

  231. Peedlum says:

    Why are Gaudin and CHoP on the team if they are not going to pitch in a blowout against a crap team. Shouldn’t Robertson be used in situations that matter a little more?

  232. I don’t quite know what to make of Justin Tuck doing an ad for a dumpster company…

  233. forensicnucchem says:

    Apparently the lead is even ‘Thames in the outfield’ safe.

  234. larryf says:

    7 runs after 2 outs! we must always keep the faith. and Thames will go in for defense in the 8th? Huh?

  235. Pat D says:

    Anyone see Wallace Matthews’ tweets during this game? Gee, I wonder if doesn’t like ARod or something?

  236. Carlosologist says:

    So Wilson Ramos for Matt Capps. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    • Carlosologist says:

      Now that I’ve calmed down, I think the Nats got a really good deal. Ramos should be knocking the door when Pudge retires after next season.

  237. nsalem says:

    Teixeira has finally passed Cervelli in batting average.

  238. Total Dominication says:

    Why the fuck is our set-up man being used with an 8 run lead right before one of the biggest regular season series of the year.

    • forensicnucchem says:

      My only guess is he didn’t want him going into Tampa with 3 straight days off…

    • forensicnucchem says:

      Plus, don’t be surprised if Joba is in the 8th again in Tampa. Robertson was warming during the 6th when it was still close with guys on vs. Moseley.

      • Mike HC says:

        Someone made a good point the other day. Roberston seems to be Joe’s “fireman,” the guy he uses when there are runners on. Joba will probably get the call to start a clean 8th inning.

        Time will tell.

  239. Total Dominication says:

    11 walks, wooowowowow.

  240. Kevin in Delectable Princeton says:

    I love destroying the Indians.

  241. Total Dominication says:

    Wow, noooow he gets a hit, this bp is really bad.

  242. Total Dominication says:

    With 12 walks, 10 runs is almost paltry.

  243. nsalem says:

    Some of Robertson’s last few bad outings have been with 3 or more days rest. Probably needed some work to get ready, he could probably pitch twice over the weekend.

  244. ShuutoHeat (GGBG > Crawford) says:

    This is all payback for Tomlin’s cocky rage inciting smirk.

  245. Total Dominication says:

    That was a strike?

  246. SF Yanks says:

    Damn, Alex is getting some prime RBI opportunities. I’d like to see him take advantage of this.

  247. Jack says:

    Come on, Al.

  248. Total Dominication says:

    OK, this is getting a bit ridiculous.

  249. All-Star Carl says:

    Hanger down the middle.

  250. forensicnucchem says:

    Don’t worry A-Rod. It’ll be much sweeter against the Rays.

  251. Accent Shallow says:


  252. Jersey Johnny says:

    Arod, you choker!!!

  253. forensicnucchem says:

    That looked Laporta-ish.

  254. Accent Shallow says:

    Yessss, position player pitching!


  255. Total Dominication says:

    I’m feeling a dillema, if the inning keeps going and A-rod homers off a 3bmen, does it feel cheap?

  256. Eirias says:

    There are few things I like more than a position player pitching.

  257. Total Dominication says:

    That’s a story to tell his grandkids.

  258. Total Dominication says:

    Ohhhh Swish.

  259. bexarama says:

    Swisher’s gettin’ fined in kangaroo court!

  260. Accent Shallow says:

    Nick Swisher strikes out against a position player? Somewhere, Peter Gammons sheds a single tear.

    /it’s the circle of life

  261. Kit says:

    That was hilarious.

  262. Total Dominication says:

    For me, that was the most enjoyable 1-2-3 inning by the Yankees offense ever.

  263. James A says:

    RAB goes back to back, and is belly to belly!

  264. Cecala says:

    Anyone else think that A-Rod has Jersey Shore recorded?

  265. keith says:

    Holy shit!? A commercial? Really?

  266. Kevin in Delectable Princeton says:

    Holy crap, Wallace Matthews needs to shut up: “Andy Marte is pitching better than Damaso Marte ever did”

    WHAT!?!?! Do you watch baseball?! Ever?!

    • All-Star Carl says:

      Just looked at his twitter. He has 1500 followers. Why are you following that man?

    • Pat D says:

      Yea, he’s also added that the Indians sold 5400+ walk up tickets tonight based solely on $1 hot dogs (maybe true, but I guess potential of history isan’t an allure?) and that ARod also failed to pass Lou Gehrig for all time grand slams.

      Who did this guy work for before ESPN NY? No one?

      • Jack says:

        Yea, he’s also added that the Indians sold 5400+ walk up tickets tonight based solely on $1 hot dogs

        I hate Wally as much as the next guy, but I’m pretty sure that one was a joke.

  267. Gonzo says:

    Take that Bill Hall!

  268. bexarama says:

    Thames at 3B. LOLOLOL

  269. Andy Marte for Rolaids Relief award ZOMG Trade Joba for Andy Marte!

  270. Total Dominication says:


  271. Total Dominication says:

    How do you walk a guy on 4 pitches in a 10 run ballgame?

  272. Total Dominication says:

    He’s got to try to steal, right?

  273. In re: Thames at third:

    Moving from the OF to 3B SUCKS. I had to play third one game this year and it as fucking insane. I did not like it one bit.

    • Cecala says:

      They put me at third for my slow pitch softball league…I caught all the balls it was throwing to the girls that was a problem. I would try to slow up my throw last second and wind up handcuffing myself. The OF is so much more fun.

    • Mike Axisa says:

      Yeah, third is no joke. I did the same thing in high school. I pitched and played OF, but I played third one game and almost got killed by routine grounders.

    • Carlosologist says:

      I’m left-handed so I’ve only played the OF and first. But third must be hell.

    • Mike HC says:

      I play third in my softball league and played third and second in high school.

      Gotta love the hot corner! I definitely come out with about a bruise a game. Gotta just knock em down, ha.

  274. Total Dominication says:

    Way to boost your trade value Chop.

  275. Carlosologist says:

    LOL Thames at third. Apparentlty WalMatt didn’t see Marte in the post season.

  276. All-Star Carl says:

    Bye bye Chop. I gave you a lot of chances. You fail.

  277. forensicnucchem says:

    I was going to say Park has actually been pretty good lately.

    Then he had to go and have a second inning…

  278. All-Star Carl says:


  279. Ross in Jersey says:

    Oh dear.

  280. Kevin in Delectable Princeton says:

    Best moment of the year right there.

  281. forensicnucchem says:

    Ugh, made the hard part well, then bombed the easy part…

  282. Mike Axisa says:

    Shit! Thames had the hard part down, airmailed the throw on the easy part.

    • poster on a different computer who happens to be a deuce bag says:

      That might, just might, have been the worst throw I’ve ever seen ever.

  283. bexarama says:

    That might have been one of the top 10 funniest things I’ve ever seen on a baseball field.

  284. Total Dominication says:


  285. Kit says:

    Oh Thames. I can’t even be mad at that. You tried. And failed.

  286. Ross in Jersey says:

    Chan Ho is not going to make any friends in this inning. Just brutal.

  287. poster on a different computer who happens to be a deuce bag says:

    This inning is so bizarre.

  288. Will (the other one) says:

    I’m so upset I can’t see what’s going on right now. I feel like I’m really missing out…

  289. Mike Axisa says:

    I’m not even mad. This is impressive.

  290. Total Dominication says:

    Mosely being the only good pitcher in a game? WTF? Well, D-rob did his thing I guess.

  291. hogsmog says:


  292. Andy Marte 1 IP, 0 runs. Chop has 3 runs in more IP.

    How can CHoP live this down.

  293. SouthernYankeeFan says:

    Why does Girardi leave CHoP in there

  294. forensicnucchem says:

    Has Albaladejo’s 10 days expired yet???

  295. Jack says:

    Park blows.

  296. All-Star Carl says:

    Jesus about time.

  297. Pat D says:

    I wasn’t in favor of dumping Park.

    I’m not sure there’s a debate now.

  298. forensicnucchem says:

    Geez, almost made that into a save situation.

    And Park looks pissed…

  299. Cecala says:

    I thought Swisher was going to drop that…

    So much for trading CHoP

  300. Total Dominication says:

    Seriously, 3 walks with a 10 run lead, is….dare I say it, unacceptable. I want Albie up and CHop down and gone. This is ridiculous.

  301. Kevin in Delectable Princeton says:

    And that has to be the end of Park in pinstripes. I liked the signing and it just didn’t work out. Remember when he pitched three scoreless relief innings in Boston in the third game of the series? That was pretty cool. And then he talked about diarrhea. That was funny.

  302. You’d think that after 15 years that Jeter wouldn’t look at the camera so nervously all the time.

  303. Wil Nieves #1 Fan says:

    Chan Slut Park is done for. I hate him. I fucking hate him.

  304. Mark says:

    Cash please Albaladejo, thanks.

  305. BadaBling says:

    DFA Park now please! Was that performance supposed to boost his “trade” value. Weird game!!

  306. I Am Not The Droids You're Looking For says:

    Well that was fun.


  307. Jerome S says:

    Tsk Tsk. Haven’t we known for a long time now that even if CHoP has a lights out first inning, his second inning will always suck?

  308. forensicnucchem says:

    Wow, Brian Roberts is back, who knew???

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