Game 114: Welcome back, Tex


I feel sorry for that baseball. (AP Photo/Kathy Willens)

Even though Marcus Thames did a more than admirable job filling as the three-hole hitter during the last two games, I think we’re all happy to have Mark Teixeira back with the team. The Yanks’ first baseman missed those games because his wife had the nerve to give birth during the season, but he returns just in time to face one of his favorite pitchers, Bruce Chen. Tex isn’t just 9-for-14 off Chen in his career, six of those nine hits have left the yard and two others have gone for doubles. That includes a 2-for-3 effort a few weeks ago. Welcome back Tex; now please, don’t ever leave us again.

The other big story of the night is Curtis Granderson‘s supposedly revamped swing. He downplayed the changes, though it still sounds like there some pretty significant adjustments made. The results probably won’t be immediate, but stranger things have happened. Here’s the lineup…

Jeter, SS
Swisher, RF
Teixeira, 1B
A-Rod, 3B
Cano, 2B
Thames, DH
Kearns, LF
Granderson, CF
Cervelli, C

And on the bump, it’s the big man, CC Sabathia.

Another game out in the midwest, so this one doesn’t start until a little after 8pm ET. Once the game starts, you can watch on YES. Enjoy.

Categories : Game Threads


  1. Jose the Satirist says:

    Papelbon with a blown save loss today against the Blue Jays. It was a pretty awesome meltdown.

  2. Carlosologist says:

    Raise your hand if you’re curious to see Grandy’s new swing.

    Also, I checked DSIRONNYYFANS, and wow those people are dumb jackasses.

  3. I’m betting that the proud papa goes deep tonight.

  4. T.J. says:

    Tex’s line tonight: 3-4, 2B, HR, 2 RBI

  5. forensic says:

    Oh good, my favorite booth combination…

  6. True story. It was my birthday a few days ago, and between that and the Yanks I was up late (for me). I woke up the next day and felt exhausted all day, so I got home early and took a rare midday nap. I wake up, and want to call the dog over, but I’m too tired. I just think to myself ‘Mabel, come here’ without saying a word, and . . . . she runs right over. This immediately freaked me out. So I went back to sleep, and when I woke up I tried it again, and right on cue, she runs right over to me, as if I called her.

    Should I be worried that my dog can read my mind?

  7. Tex’s line against Bruce Chen is downright Meulensesque.


    I was just as horny as the next guy when I was 13 but man, I dunno about that one.

  9. T.J. says:

    Here comes the first HR.

  10. Bruce Chen is the worst Japanese pitcher ever.


  11. Mike Axisa says:

    Fourth outfielder.

  12. Mushy Carl says:


  13. Kit says:

    Oh, Swish. *shakes head*

  14. Total Dominication says:

    Not a good way to recover from a Golden Sombrero.

  15. T.J. says:

    Goddammit Swisher.

  16. Carlosologist says:

    Swish why?

  17. That’s why I don’t like sending runners on a full count w/fewer than two outs.

  18. bexarama says:

    No heart! (Hey, it worked yesterday.)


  20. T.J. says:

    “It gets away from Cervelli”

    Where have I heard that before?

  21. JGS says:

    They had the Price is Right losing horn!!!

  22. Dalelama says:

    What is the announcer nicknamed Flash real name?

  23. Total Dominication says:


  24. That was just an awful play by Jeter.

  25. Mushy Carl says:

    They really need to get rid of errors. What is the point if they call everything a hit?

  26. After two games of watching the Rangers ugly uniforms, it feels good to watch two well-dressed baseball teams facing off against each other.

  27. bexarama says:

    Royals have crazy BABIP luck ALREADY.

  28. Robbie just tied his career high in walks. Woo progress!

  29. I’m disappointed that Paulie O’Neill isn’t in the booth. He knows KC has great food, right?

    Flash is so boring. I euthanize my pets with sound recordings of Flash talking.

  30. Marcus Thames #1 Fan says:

    Bruce Chen…more like Bruce Shit.

  31. Mike Axisa says:

    True or False: The only reason Thames hit so well in Texas is because pitchers went right after him with A-Rod due up next.

  32. Carlosologist says:

    Kearnzie pimpsmacked that one to left.

  33. Mushy Carl says:

    WOoo results!

  34. Wait a second, did Granderson just hit a lefty. DID ANYONE JUST SEE A COMET?

  35. Kit says:

    Granderson! I didn’t notice his swing, but I like it!

  36. Ansky says:

    Its a miracle

    he is CURED

  37. Mike Axisa says:

    Curtis Granderson is batting 1.000 with his new setup at the plate.

  38. Carlosologist says:

    And Grandy with an RBI single. On the first pitch against a lefty. Progress woo!

  39. Curtis just got a hit against a lefty. Woo progress!

  40. forensic says:

    Kevin Long is a genius.

    At least until Granderson strikes out his next two AB’s.

  41. Total Dominication says:

    Kevin Long is a genius!

    /correlation equals causation

  42. ross says:

    His swing definitely looked better

  43. Mushy Carl says:

    Cervelli still sucks

  44. bexarama says:

    Andy Pettitte, big… news.

    (How do you hurt yourself on a couch? Is he 87 years old? Or Nick Johnson?)

  45. ShuutoHeat (GGBG > Crawford) says:

    Speaking of Grandy’s revamped stance, FAR less moving parts.
    He used to look like a coffee junkie on his 20th cup of black coffee during his ABs.

  46. JGS says:

    Cue bexy jokes about Andy’s groin…

  47. swisher's fauxhawk says:

    Kearns, baby.

  48. K-Rod's Father-In-Law says:

    Hey, guys. Just wanted to check in and let you all know I’m doing fine.

  49. BigBlueAL says:

    Dunno if this was mentioned earlier but in his chat today Keith Law was asked what hitter he would compared Jesus Montero too and his reply was:

    “Physically and in his swing, he reminds me of Frank Thomas. And I know that’s an insane comp to put on a guy, but I don’t think that’s out of the question as an optimistic long-term projection.”


  50. The thought of Cash Money saying “mashing” makes me laugh.

    • Pat D says:

      Tell you this: if you do tech support for cell phones, and you hear people say that they “mash” the buttons on the phone…yea, it gets to the point where you want to strangle that person.

  51. YankeesJunkie says:

    I remember when Alex Gordon was supposed to be the next Goerge Brett.

  52. FIPster Doofus says:

    Loving the D from Kearns and Teix.

  53. Total Dominication says:

    Whenever a play occurs during Jones’ diatribe, she always seems to be very descriptive in her coverage of the play, almost like she’s trying to give YES the message that she’d be a better game caller then those other idiots in the booth.

  54. Total Dominication says:

    Betencourt messes up a play, I’m fucking shocked.

  55. Singleton: “The hole is open, and he takes advantage of it.”

  56. Wil Nieves #1 Fan says:

    Oh Swisher, you so fine, you so fine you blow my mind. Hey, Swisher!

  57. Carlosologist says:

    I wonder if Jeter can pull a Montero and get red hot and reach .300 with a month to go.

  58. Total Dominication says:

    The Yankees clearly don’t do smallball.

  59. Zooboy says:

    Scoring a run on an out. Is that allowed?

  60. Carlosologist says:

    90 RBI: not impressive. It’s more representative of how good the lineup is.


  61. Mushy Carl says:

    A-Rod gets cheated so much on those inside pitches

  62. I like how not only do the Giants keep finding great defensive ends, they keep also finding great defensive ends who are natural media darlings with good Q ratings who are articulate and move product.

    I fear Jason Pierre-Paul won’t join Strahan/Osi/Tuck in that regard, though. I heard him in speak in a camp video blurb… he is some straight-up Florida countryfied.

  63. Total Dominication says:

    Damn, Robbie should have gotten that.

  64. Wasn’t that a strike to A-Rod?

  65. Mushy Carl says:

    But Chen gets the call on that inside pitch.

  66. bexarama says:

    Did they call Jason Kendall a perfect two-hole hitter?

  67. Total Dominication says:


  68. Meat Loaf says:

    Flash is awful at play by play.

    We need more of Al Leiter in the booth and less of Flash.

    I do not like Flash’s play by play.

  69. forensic says:

    Wow, could they have this Liberty Diabetes commercial on any more often???

  70. Did anyone else just have a Saab ad? I could’ve sworn they stopped making those…

  71. Carlosologist says:

    And we complain about Jeter and the GIDP.

  72. Trivia answer: Joe Gordon.

  73. Mushy Carl says:


  74. CS Yankee says:

    Hey, what time today did FedEx drop-off Grandy’s new swing?

  75. swisher's fauxhawk says:

    Austin Kearns: True Yankee.

  76. JGS says:

    I’m liking Austin Kearns

  77. Carlosologist says:

    Kearns! Solo job right there.


  78. Kit says:

    Nicely done, Kearns.

  79. Wow, Flaherty almost sounded excited there.

  80. bexarama says:

    What’s Sterling’s call???

  81. forensic says:

    Wow, was that the most boring Homerun call ever?

  82. Total Dominication says:

    Ball carried…..and carried…..and carried…….and Kearns!!!!

  83. Who was I talking to yesterday, saying that Kearns and Berkman were crappy at first just because they needed an adjustment period, and that they’ve both started playing better and contributing?


  84. Mushy Carl says:

    Grandy man!!

  85. Esteban says:

    John Flaherty is soooo bad. Big ups to Kearns though. Where da haterz at now?

  86. Mike Axisa says:

    Curtis Granderson, cured.

  87. Carlosologist says:

    Grandy is batting 1.000/1.000/3.000 with his new swing.

  88. Chris says:

    Kevin Long is a genius.

  89. Is Granderson’s swing actually working or is it because Bruce Chen sucks?

  90. Total Dominication says:

    Long clearly is a genius.

    /a little less jokingly this time

  91. theyankeewarrior says:

    My favorite part of that HR was watching it fly over the TOR: 6 BOS: 5 sign.

    Granderson 2/2!

  92. Bob Stone says:

    Awright Grandy

  93. Bob Stone says:

    Kevin Long – We love you.

  94. Accent Shallow says:

    I ordinarily wouldn’t get too excited about Curtis hitting a rocket off a lefty, since it is Bruce Chen, and blind squirrels/nuts, etc, but after seeing 89 mph fastballs from LHP tie him up, I’ll take what I can get. Maybe he is turning it around.

  95. nsalem says:

    Kevin Long > Miracle Max

  96. Flaherty-”Nick, I spread out his bottom half…”

    Are we still talking about Baseball?

  97. Mike Axisa says:

    Sterling: “Austin powers that one over the fence.”

  98. Brooklyn Ed says:

    Kerns should be the everyday LFer while he’s hot.
    Thames should be the everyday DH while he’s hot.
    Granderson is awesome with his new stance.


  99. Esteban says:

    Conventional wisdom is hitting and pitching coaches don’t matter that much, but I gotta believe that most hitting and pitching coaches don’t matter but there are a few good ones that make a difference.

  100. Carlosologist says:

    The fact that the scoreboard lists OBP makes me laugh at the fact that Dayton Moore (probably) doesn’t.

  101. Total Dominication says:

    Wow, this is suuuuch boring announcing.

  102. Zooboy says:

    I really enjoy baseball.

  103. SouthernYankeeFan says:

    What are the chances we get some screen grabs of Granderson’s new stance in the recap tonight?

  104. Esteban says:

    I feel like that TGI Friday’s ad is subtly racist. “Sure white yuppie couple I’ll be happy to drag you in a rickshaw for the new ‘Caribbean’ menu”

  105. Total Dominication says:

    It’s Hi-yah-he-yah. Not that difficult people.

  106. Cervelli is such a shit player. Can we send him off to Snackistan or Fritolaysia?

  107. Mushy Carl says:

    99 wow

  108. Umm…the gun just read “99″. Must be fast, right?

  109. Accent Shallow says:


    Reached plate at 89.1?!

  110. Total Dominication says:

    Flash with the subtle sexism.

  111. bexarama says:

    Did CC hit 99???!?!

  112. itsATarp says:

    99 wow where did that come from

  113. Total Dominication says:

    Teh jump and throw!!!!!!

  114. matt montero says:


  115. Carlosologist says:

    CC throwing the gas!

  116. Cy Pettitte says:

    classic Jeterian play

  117. Meat Loaf says:

    Downright Jeterian.

  118. Accent Shallow says:

    Wow, was Betancourt running?!

  119. Isn’t it worth noting that most SS’s don’t do the jump throw because a) they get to that ball w/o needing to jump and b) they have the arm strength to plant and throw?


  120. T-Dubs says:

    Don’t feel like scanning the whole post to see if someone quoted this yet so my apologies if this is duplicative.

    Peter (Seattle)
    Which current hitter would you compare Jesus Montero to? If he goes to a different team any chance he stays behind the plate?

    Klaw (1:57 PM)
    Physically and in his swing, he reminds me of Frank Thomas. And I know that’s an insane comp to put on a guy, but I don’t think that’s out of the question as an optimistic long-term projection.

  121. Mushy Carl says:

    How does this shitty team find all the holes?

  122. forensic says:

    Nostra, you got me curious, here are Thames’ counts in the Texas series (obviously no pitch type doing it this quickly):

    Singles on 0-0, 0-1, 1-1, and 0-2
    Homerun on 1-2
    K swinging on 1-2 and 0-2
    K looking on 3-2 and 1-2 (twice)

    Don’t know if it means anything to ya, but there you go.

    • forensic says:

      Basically you were right, they were just pounding him with strikes as he was behind in almost every count.

      • IIRC the HR was on a hanging slider or curve, which makes sense ahead of the count. But yeah, they’re idiots if they’re not pounding him with strikes and clearly they were going after him.

  123. Meat Loaf says:

    The best thing the Kansas City Royals can promote about their franchise? They are hosting the All Star Game… in two years.

  124. Jersey Johnny says:

    Sit down, beeyotch!

  125. Aj says:

    random question Mike, or anyone- doess anyone think the yanks will offer Vasquez arb and try to get draft picks in a strong draft class if he finishes the year pitching well?

  126. Sean C says:

    So was the gun a little fast, or was CC really throwing 99 for those couple pitches?

  127. forensic says:

    Some changes here for the Royals…

    (an hour later) the changes are…

  128. Cy Pettitte says:

    looking at the schedule, how did it work out that we never face Greinke in 2 sets

  129. JGS says:

    Swish working a super long at bat to lead off an inning where Wilson Betemit is playing third for the other team (the other team not being the White Sox) is a beautiful thing

  130. Meat Loaf says:

    Best walk of the season?

  131. Kit says:

    Nicely done, Swish.

  132. Carlosologist says:

    Swish, do that a bit more often please.

  133. Will (the other one) says:

    “Nick Swisher walks. None out.”

    GameDay’s having a little trouble doing that one justice, methinks.

  134. forensic says:

    Great AB Swish.

  135. Esteban says:

    Ahhh the curse of Betemit!! When will Cash live down that disaster?

  136. bexarama says:

    “You hit that many home runs, you’re going to spread the wealth.”

    Uh oh. Rose now hates A-Rod.

  137. Reggie C. says:

    Aviles is not good at baseball.

  138. Carlosologist says:

    Shitty defense FTW!

  139. T.J. says:

    Chen is really chomping down on that gum.

    I think my favorite call is “And everybody is going to be safe”. It’s so rewarding to hear.

  140. Kit says:

    That’s why you’re the Royals.

  141. JGS says:

    Pitching and defense, folks


  142. Esteban says:

    I expect Cano to hit a HR here.

  143. Reggie C. says:

    C’mon Cano. Find the gap, clear the bases, go for the jugular! That’d be a good at-bat.

  144. Mushy Carl says:

    way to capitalize

  145. Aj says:

    but say the yanks sign Lee and Pettitte then the rotation would be set with CC Lee Burnett Pettitte HUghes then i think Javi would turn it down if he knows he wont have a shot at the rotation. what do ou guys think??

    • bexarama says:


      I don’t think they’re offering Javy arbitration. He’s probably not going to finish as a Type A and it’s not worth what happens if he accepts, IMO. I like him, but all these dead arm issues…

      • Reggie C. says:

        Yep. Given that Javy has actually said that he’s at a point in his career where he’d like to go year-to-year … you gotta think he’d JUMP at a shot to make another 12/13 million next season.

      • JGS says:

        Before the dead arm, there was little chance of him accepting. Now I’m not so sure.

    • Zooboy says:

      Plus in his case I think there is also a good chance he’d rather go to the NL. Might be worth the risk, particularly if the scenario you present comes to fruition.

    • Esteban says:

      If he likes the money he could get, or thinks that’s more money than he could get elsewhere, he would accept arbitration.

  146. Esteban says:

    Looked safe initially, but ooo nice tag Robbie.

  147. Reggie C. says:

    Didn’t bring it up in yesterday’s game thread, so i’ve got to say …

    SANTONIO HOLMES is going to be a Sanchez’s home-run HITTAH! Did you see that shake-and-bake/ stutter move and subsequent catch. That dude nearly went full horizontal on that catch. Sanchez is so lucky.

  148. Jersey Johnny says:

    Is Marcus Thames this year’s Eric Hinske?

  149. Mushy Carl says:

    You guys think Thames will be back next year?

  150. Is the new reliever a K-Rod body double?

  151. Meat Loaf says:

    Via Gameday: “Kansas City Royals center fielder Gregor Blanco left the game due an injured head.”

    Why am I laughing?

  152. Meat Loaf says:

    Hey, it’s that imposter Tex we used to have. Isn’t there still a chance he is back in our org. by the end of the year?

  153. Jim S says:

    Not that it’s remotely impressive, but no mention of the CS by Cerv?

  154. Kevin in Delectable Princeton says:

    I didn’t even notice Gardner is not playing today. Hopefully he comes back tomorrow like it’s the first half of the season!

    • Girardi said in an interview today that he thinks he’s wearing down a bit, so an off day was in order.

      BTW-He said with the 100 degree heat they’ve been playing in some of his older players like Jeter and Alex will be rested soon as well.

  155. matt montero says:

    Imagine if Kila was on the Yankees, what John Sterling would do for his homerun call?

  156. bexarama says:

    WTF, ump.


  157. Jose the Satirist says:

    The Royal have 7 hits and 1 walk through 6 innings. CC has thrown 71 pitches. That is surprisingly low.

  158. JM says:

    What is an average OPS? I was discussing it with a friend and I said about .800 and I wanted to know if I was in the neighborhood.

  159. forensic says:

    Doesn’t it feel like this game should be like 7-1 by now? Kind of disappointing/frustrating that it’s still so close. One bad inning and they could be on the wrong end of the score. At least it seems like CC could be good for the whole 9 tonight.

  160. Mushy Carl says:

    Please don’t roll over on a sinker

  161. bexarama says:

    Where’s that dude who babbled on about how we never play small ball any more? Normally guys like that LOVE plays like the last one.

  162. forensic says:


    14 IBB’s his first 5 years total
    12 IBB’s this year already

    He’s got time to double his career total the way it’s going.

  163. Carlosologist says:

    Robbie has set a career high in walks with 40. Tex gets around 40 in late May – early June.

  164. forensic says:

    So, the recent slower pace of commenting more due to the terrible announcers, the kind of blah game, or the hangover from the Texas series?

    Or maybe just my rambling if you would prefer…

  165. Meat Loaf says:

    Great pronunciation, Flash!

    “Hey fans, come on out for… Plush… Whistle… Night…”

    He is awful. Why did they decide to let him split play by play with Kenny?

  166. JFH says:

    low profile game and expected W for the evening. but if you wanted real entertainment value, sosh was hilarious today.

  167. T.J. says:

    “We all know that sometimes Cocoa can be hot”


  168. Is it just me or does Curtis look a little more closed off than normal?

  169. candyforstalin says:

    isn’t it funny that brian cashman’s only bad move all year (marcus thames) is probably the most successful?

  170. Pat D says:

    Glad to see some small ball tonight. I’m not the one complaining about it, but it does seem that they’ve struggled with it at times this year.

    Of course, I think people said that’s why they wouldn’t win last year and I think it worked out ok.

    • bexarama says:

      Yeah, I admit I enjoy seeing smallball.

      …not as much as I enjoy seeing grand slams and shit though. ;P

    • Jim S says:

      I’d be more OK with it if we were doing it against like, Cliff Lee. Shouldn’t need small ball against the Royals and Bruce Chen. Granted, this lineup shouldn’t need small ball against anyone.

      Better than nothing, though.

  171. Esteban says:

    Question: If you had to pick one Yankee to impregnate your wife, who would you pick?

  172. bexarama says:

    Grandy really is a pretty good defensive outfielder. Yeah I said it.

  173. Mushy Carl says:

    Why did he decide to squeeze CC?

  174. forensic says:

    CC not a big fan of Cederstrom right now.

  175. Kevin in Delectable Princeton says:

    CC for the ninth?

  176. Nom Chompsky says:

    I know you can’t predict baseball ™, but it is always funny to hear an announcer say something like:

    “You know, if he gets an inside pitch he can cheat on this game could be tied…weak grounder to the pitcher.”

  177. bexarama says:

    Unrelated to the game so apologies, but Jonathan Broxton really has not been the same since the Yankee series.

    Torre, you were a really good manager for a while. But I do not miss the way you murdered relief pitchers after about 2003 or so, and I thank Mo that you didn’t kill Mo.

    • Jim S says:

      Girardi is the anti-Torre. Torre kills relievers in the first half of the year so they suck down the stretch, Girardi seems to understand the concept of rest.

      Watching the dodgers collapse today makes me REALLY agree with you re: Torre. Fun 5-6 years, don’t miss him anymore.

    • JohnnyC says:

      2003? Torre is a chronic offender going back to Steve Bedrosian in the early ’80s with Atlanta.

    • forensic says:

      His OPS against is nearly 400 points higher since then, and that’s with nearly the same BABIP. ERA more than 7 runs higher. Kind of crazy.

      • Jim S says:

        Fun anecdote: He blew the game today allowing 4 runs on one hit, the game winning double. Everything else? 2 walks, hbp, error on a scorched ground ball to 3rd(which in fairness, Blake should have had).

    • JGS says:

      Including that 4-run meltdown to the Yankees and tonight, Broxton’s ERA since June 27th is 9.88

  178. forensic says:

    Finish it off CC!

  179. Not sure if I like sending CC out there right now. He hasn’t thrown a ton of pitches, but over 100 is more than enough considering the heat.

  180. Kit says:

    I don’t like the thought of CC going CG in August. I get the reason why, but I feel like the high pitch count isn’t healthy despite his work horse mentality.

  181. Mushy Carl says:

    Nice bloop hits

  182. Mushy Carl says:

    Why do this Joe why?

  183. memday says:

    STUPID unnecessary move girardi…stop fucking miocro managing..

  184. UncleArgyle says:

    Taking out CC is pure over managing

  185. j_Yankees says:

    Really? going to pull him with 2 outs?

  186. forensic says:

    Ok Robertson. You finish it off now!

  187. TERPSandYANKSfan says:

    I do not think we have had a nine inning complete game this year. I wanted this one.

  188. Mushy Carl says:

    So stupid. He lets him throw 125 vs Clevland when hes losing but won’t let him get a complete game at 110?

    And this happens. Way to go Joe.

    • Jim S says:

      88 degrees in cleveland, over 100 in KC.

    • Chris says:

      Maybe the fact that it’s like 100 degrees has something to do with it?

      No, that’s not possible. The only possible explanation is that you know more about how CC is doing than Joe.

      • Not Tank the Frank says:

        Stop making excuses for someone who’s proven time and again to be an awful manager. CC’s thrown 110 pitches in this heat, he can’t possibly face another batter can he????

        If you’re worried about the heat, don’t let him start the 9th. That’s a terrible excuse.

        • Chris says:

          Girardi has proven time and again that he’s an excellent manager (in particular with respect to bullpen management).

          Somehow he manages to consistently have his best relievers pitcher the most innings and has them pitch in the highest leverage situations. He does that while not over using his best relievers or under using his worst. A lot of his decisions about which reliever to use are not based solely on one game, but based on the last few games and the next few. It’s a very challenging balancing act, but one that Girardi has managed quite well.

          Please explain to me some of the stupid moves that he’s made. And if you come back and complain that he gives his best players days off or doesn’t always use his best reliever, then I’ll say you’re right and try to explain why that makes him a good manager and not a bad one.

          • Jim S says:

            Don’t worry, he hasn’t actually argued anything besides “Girardi is a terrible manager.”

            I wasted my breath too. Some people just don’t want to listen.

  189. bexarama says:

    Oh boy. Just get the next guy.

  190. UncleArgyle says:

    Yup. That’s what happen

  191. memday says:

    fucking idiot girardi

  192. Meat Loaf says:

    So help me God if we lose this game…. I will do nothing, nothing will change, and the Yankees will be the best team in baseball still.

    But I’ll be crabby.

  193. Accent Shallow says:

    Willie F. Bloomquist.

  194. forensic says:

    Ugh, sort of sleepwalking through this game coming back to potentially bit them now, as said before…

  195. TERPSandYANKSfan says:

    LOL at this.

  196. Kit says:

    It’s the lack of high socks, David. *scolds*

  197. Jersey Johnny says:

    Bring in Joba.

  198. Apollo22237 says:

    We have been all laughing about how bad Betemit is… he better not get his revenge.

  199. Jim S says:

    Oh phew, this thread was much too calm for a Yankee game thread. Better now.

  200. TERPSandYANKSfan says:

    I literally feel terribly for CC.

  201. Jersey Johnny says:

    What would Torre do?

  202. Nintendo vs Sega says:

    Girardi is an idiot!

  203. Jersey Johnny says:

    Oh fuckity fuck fuck.

  204. memday says:

    lost game…pls fucking fire this moron girardi

  205. bexarama says:

    Oh lordy. Get the next guy, please.

  206. Nom Chompsky says:

    Oh God, Joba’s infected Robertson with his terrible-BABIP voodoo.

  207. Hummingbird S. says:

    this is disturbing..

  208. Jim S says:

    Zen baseball.

  209. Mushy Carl says:

    How in the hell do you take your ace out of this game? How!

    • Jim S says:

      Because he had 110 pitches in 100+ degree weather?

      • Mushy Carl says:

        Then why let him start the inning?

        • Jim S says:

          Because he didn’t have 110 pitches at the start of the inning?

          • Mushy Carl says:

            You can’t be serious.

            • Chris says:

              He didn’t have 110 pitches at the start of the inning, so I think he was serious. And probably accurate.

            • Jim S says:

              He had what, 102 to start the inning? Without unfortunate babip luck the game ends at 110. Given 2 baserunners, and only 1 out, it’s going to take at least 10 more pitches to finish the game, and it’s 100 degrees out.

              I’m serious, Girardi’s serious, and despite his flaws, bullpen and rotation management are 2 of his strong suits.

              • forensic says:

                Well, it was 2 outs, so really it could’ve been one pitch to end the inning the way they swing.

              • Mushy Carl says:

                Because CC never pitched in the heat before? Let D-Rob start the inning fresh if heat was a problem. CC can pitch out of a jam.

                • Jim S says:

                  CC can pitch out of a jam, yes. But to do so would require more, higher stress pitches, on an arm that has thrown a ton of innings this year, not to mention someone we desperately need come october.

                  forensic, it could have been, but kendall certainly battled up there and could have done the same thing against CC.

                  All i’m saying is Girardi’s decision was hardly stupid.

                • Jim S says:

                  It sounds like you’d never be in favor of taking CC out in the middle of an inning. If this were the 7th instead of the 9th would that have made a difference to you? AKA would you have been ok with it if a complete game weren’t on the line?

  210. UncleArgyle says:

    Who died and made us the Red Sox?

  211. Jersey Johnny says:

    94? There must be something wrong with the radar gun.

  212. Apollo22237 says:

    No Passion!!!

  213. JohnnyC says:

    Don’t hang one.

  214. Jersey Johnny says:

    Fuck you Kendall, lean in one more goddamned time!

  215. Kevin says:

    Where the hell is Mo?

  216. Not Tank the Frank says:

    What IS awful managing if this is not?

  217. Jersey Johnny says:

    Motha fucka!!!

  218. Nintendo vs Sega says:

    Joe is still dumb!

  219. Apollo22237 says:

    That curveball had PASSION!!!

  220. Meat Loaf says:

    I peed a little.

  221. Accent Shallow says:

    Gotta love Robertson dropping a deuce on Kendall.

  222. UncleArgyle says:

    See I told you it was the right move to bring in Robertson

  223. memday says:

    did he bet against the team or something

  224. Esteban says:

    Trolls can go away again- they won.

  225. forensic says:


    Just couldn’t get one more inning like the other 8, huh guys?

  226. Jim S says:

    Like I said, Zen baseball. It really is hysterical how…hysterical…these threads get when you get into tough situations.

  227. Kit says:

    BUT GIRARDI IS A TERRIBLE MANAGER!!1!1! We were supposed to lose this game!!!!

    • Not Tank the Frank says:

      YEAH! Because they won it must mean he’s TEH GREATEST MANAGER!! TEH 27!!!!11!Stop

      • Jim S says:

        I really don’t understand this. How is he terrible? Because he didn’t leave CC in? Just that?

        Would you rather Torre come back?

      • Kit says:

        Did I say he was the greatest manager ever, and was I talking to you? No I wasn’t, so calm your ass down and go pick a fight with someone else.

        • Not Tank the Frank says:

          I’m sorry I thought I was on a message board where one could respond freely to other’s posts but imustbemistakensorry!

          • Jim S says:

            I’m serious, how is he a bad manager, using only this game as evidence? I’ve seen “GIRARDI SUCKS” but zero explanations as to why, besides, “let CC finish the game.”

          • bexarama says:

            Meh, this is true, I just don’t know if your response was really warranted to what she said. She didn’t say he was the greatest manager ever, but people were like “HE WANTS TO LOSE THE GAME!!!” no, no he doesn’t.

            (I’m trying to play Kumbaya here because you are cool! And Kit is cool! And you should be friends!)

            • forensic says:

              Can’t we all just get along???

              • Kit says:

                I wouldn’t be opposed to getting along at all. I like to think I’m actually quite rational, but I don’t take lightly to someone being irrationally condescending when they’re not being addressed directly. I’ll admit to being a bit of an ass to some people, but I do it in jest, and if they take it seriously, that’s on them.

                • forensic says:

                  I know, I don’t blame you.

                  My sad attempt a humor just did a complete face-plant, and then got hit by a bus.


          • Kit says:

            You are mistaken. Don’t respond to me like I’m a push over or a child. If you have something important to say, then say it and don’t be condescending. You’d be respected more for it. I wasn’t even addressing you directly, so the reaction you had to that was way too strong for something that I meant as a joke. You’re free to have your own opinions here and people won’t take offense to it, but don’t condescend to anyone directly. It’s rude and you look like an ass at the end of the day.

            • Not Tank the Frank says:

              I’m not mistaken. I’m free to respond to any post in any manner I see fit so long as I don’t break any board rules…such as saying someone looks like an ass for instance. I construed your original post as condescending. And whether you intended the post for me or not is completely irrelevant. Once you post on this board you post it for all to see and to react to. And if you post something in a condescending way you should expect to be reacted to in kind. You shouldn’t try to act like you run shit around here telling people where/when and how to react to your posts.

              My reaction to your post was no stronger than your original post. No more or less. It was obviously meant to poke fun at those who aren’t a fan of Girardi’s managing. My post was to poke fun at you for doing so. Basically, if you’re going to dish it out, you better be able to take it.

              • Kit says:

                I can take it, trust me. But I wasn’t being condescending towards you, while in return, you were. Had you had something intelligent or rational to say, I would’ve sat there and responded to you in a polite manner. While this is an open forum, you have no right to speak to me as if I’m a child. You can react to whatever you want. I wouldn’t take offense to it. I was clearly joking and poking fun at the chicken littles, and you were not. You took offense to a comment I made, twisted it, and ended up looking like a fool for it. I never said Girardi was a good manager. Do you see that anywhere up there? Tell me. Do you? Because I don’t see it. I was clearly joking, you know, like most people do here. Do most people not joke along? Usually they do, you however, took it personally, and reacted as if I had just punched your mother or something. If you felt disrespected, that wasn’t my original intention. And yes, you can comment on whatever you like, but if you think that gives you the right to be completely rude and childish for absolutely no reason– and I mean no reason because you weren’t addressed directly and I wasn’t being intentionally rude to you– you are sorely mistaken.

    • Apollo22237 says:

      I gotta admit, it was funny to see the change in the game thread once the game got a little closer.
      It was like a family reunion.

  228. Kevin in Delectable Princeton says:

    Awesome win! I’m a little disappointing CC didn’t get a complete game, but a win is a win. Also, despite almost losing the game, D-Rob is climbing up my “favorite Yankee” ladder.

  229. bexarama says:

    Trolls, get the fuck out of here. We won, after all.

    • Jim S says:

      but girardi sucks! he bet against the team! he can’t manage! bring back torre! robertson has no passion! why isn’t mo in? why take CC OUT?

      …that’s all I’ve got, i’m sure there’s more.

  230. FIPster Doofus says:

    Phew. That was close.

  231. wow says:

    all too close…

  232. Dirty Pena says:

    Better fantasy package: Danks, Pagan, Pence/Vlad/A. Jones (pick one of 3) OR Carpenter, Hart, Victorino. Steals/avg are important.

  233. BigBlueAL says:

    I am a pretty well-known Girardi hater, but cant fault him at all for how he managed the 9th inning tonight.

  234. Apollo22237 says:

    Playoff Preview?

  235. Apollo22237 says:

    I am interested in what percentage the traffic on the site increased during the past 10 minutes of that game.

    • Esteban says:

      The typical trolls all came out: Jersey Johnny, Nintendo vs. Sega, etc.

      • bexarama says:

        rereading this thread, Jersey Johnny is waaaay less of a troll than Nintendo vs. Sega. I think he was here pretty much the whole time. He just had that one batshit crazy first post a while ago, IIRC.

        • Jersey Johnny says:

          I’m not a troll, I may be irrational at times (ok most of the time) but being a Jets fan as well has the “something’s gonna go wrong” mentality in me.

  236. Hummingbird S. says:

    Why is everybody complaining, we won with Robertson on the mound. Isn’t he one of the good pitchers in the ‘pen? I could understand the complaints if Joe had pitched Gaudin in that situation..

  237. forensic says:

    It’s amazing what happened here in the 5 seconds after that double. It’s like they all had comments typed out and were waiting all night to just click Submit.

    • Apollo22237 says:

      Honestly, you’re right it was crazy. I made a comment about Betemit and it was lost in 100 posts all at the same time.

      • forensic says:

        I can picture the RABbi’s right now reading this laughing knowing that they had some sort of filter on all these comments all night and then decided to flip the switch letting them in to mess with those of us already here.

    • JFH says:

      lol! it is amazing how worked up we all get. though i was not on the ledge tonight.

  238. Zooboy says:

    Still fascinated with the win possibility going UP after Anrus’ triple last night even though he was still just the tying run. Anything similar tonight?

  239. j_Yankees says:

    Eh. Feel taking CC out with 2 outs in the inning was unnecessary. just micro managing to the 1000th degree. Let the big man get out of his own mess in that spot.

    • Jim S says:

      It was micro managing, but when did micro managing become a bad thing? And I hardly think it was to the 1000th degree. CC had a lot of pitches on a really hot day, and had gotten himself into trouble. His next pitches would have been much higher stress.

      Save him for October, baby.

      • j_Yankees says:

        Completely understand.

        but sometimes i think you just let your big man get out of it. I mean we’re talking about 2 outs already.

        whats he going to do? give up a 2 run double to bloomquist? hmmmm

        • Jim S says:

          And if he had given up a 2 run double to bloomquist, the insanity here would have been clamoring for girardi’s head for leaving him in too long.

          Being an MLB manager sucks, I like giving Girardi the benefit of the doubt.

          Again, you can argue either side, I’m hardly saying I’m 100% right and there’s no room for other opinions. But people acted as though Girardi had thrown the game or something.

          • j_Yankees says:

            whoa there…don’t lump me into the “clamoring for girardi’s head for leaving him in too long.” crowd.

            my questioning is taking him out with 2 outs. thats all. i’ve already let CC face the tying run once and he got a ground ball.

            if i’m going to allow him to go ahead and face the tying run with 1 out then why not with 2? thats all.

            • Jim S says:

              Didn’t mean to lump you in, I was just pointing out why I was defending Girardi. Sorry if I came across that way.

              You just hardly ever see anyone compliment a manager, it’s either negativity or no comment.

              Girardi certainly does some unorthodox things, but given his track record with our rotation/bullpen, I’ll defer to him. You’re obviously free to disagree, and I’ll try to rationally defend him.

              • j_Yankees says:

                yeah i gotcha, jim.

                and i really don’t get on Girardi a lot. I find myself defending him a good bit. but when he does something i may disagree with i’ll try and let it be known in logical, rational way.

  240. Adam says:

    haha, was offline tonight, but just starting reading the thread from the bottom up. Good times, good times. Good, crazy times of course.

  241. Carlosologist says:

    Legit insanity towards the end. Thankfully Robertson got out of it with the win intact.

  242. forensic says:

    Personally my first choice would’ve been to let CC finish it and my second choice would’ve been Robbie after one guy got on (or to start the inning). I even would’ve considered Joba to start the inning.

    I kind of agree that taking him out at 2 outs is odd, but it’s not like it’s the worst move ever or an epidemic over-coming the team.

    Questioning moves is one thing, complete freak-outs and overreactions is too much.

    • Jim S says:

      This! Logic!

      I have no problem with people wanting CC to stay in the game. But calling Girardi an idiot over-managing loser because he brought in our 2nd best reliever to close out a mid-august game against the Royals is just crazy.

    • Kit says:

      While I disagree about CC completing the game, I understood why it would be reasonable to have him do it. The bullpen has been overworked recently, and they probably won’t have that much of a break in the future, but I was also worried about CC. Not only was it 99 degrees, but he’s also had a pitch count over 100 in a few of his starts, so my logic was that he was probably tiring faster in that heat and his arm has been a bit overworked. I could be wrong since CC loves hot weather, but I was just concerned about his arm and the heat.

      I do agree about the complete freak outs and overreactions. It was a bit too severe in this situation. What pissed me off was that they hadn’t said anything all night, but all of a sudden they come out of the wood work to complain.

    • j_Yankees says:

      my issue is with pulling him with 2 outs. I’ve already let him face the tying run once. Give him another chance to get through it and if he doesn’t then pull him.

  243. bexarama says:

    Postgame: Joe said it was because of the heat and he was afraid CC was gonna cramp up if he left him in longer. (I would’ve probably kept him in, but I didn’t mind taking him out.)

    Can we all take a deeeeeeeeeep breath now?

  244. Total Dominication says:

    I went to go get Ice Cream after the 8th (banana-cinamon, yum), and then I come back to see the thread. Everyone went batshit insane.

    • Total Dominication says:

      To think, I was about to post that this was the most boring, not that that’s a bad thing, but nonetheless the most boring win of the season.

  245. Jim S says:

    I’m actually legitimately curious about something. If this had been with two out in the 7th instead of two out in the 9th, would people have been less annoyed at Girardi? Was the chance for a complete game the reason people were mad?

    • forensic says:

      Being a 3 run lead against the Royals with 2 outs, even in the 7th, I would’ve left him in. Maybe even more so then because there’s time after it if everything goes terribly wrong.

      • Jim S says:

        I just don’t think you’d have seen the same level of freaking out. Plus you’ve been pretty level-headed, and haven’t called for Girardi’s head.

        Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. I’m glad I don’t have to make the decisions Joe does, and honestly, even if he has his foibles, every other MLB manager does too. Not sure I’d rather have anyone else right now.

    • bexarama says:

      If he took him out with two out in the 7th, considering his pitch count and how much the bullpen had been used over the past two days, I would’ve been extremely confused.

  246. Not Tank the Frank says:

    Listen, I’m not a “troll.” I’ve been posting on this site longer than most people who were calling out trolls tonight have been posting. I’m also as intelligent about baseball as anyone. It’s an unfortunate misconception that you have to be some troll or a bridge-jumper in order to question a player or a managerial/front office move. That’s simply not the case and it needs to stop.

    That being said, taking out CC in this game just doesn’t make sense to me. The heat is going to be excuse number one in Girardi’s defense, but I won’t buy it for a minute. CC’s pitch count was not relatively high. CC has pitched in heat before (TWSS!). If you’re worried about your ace and want to play it safe then you don’t send him out for the 9th! Period. Or perhaps just send him out for the lefty. He was already at 100 pitches, the imaginary cut-off point for pitchers, so why send him out? Make a decision…Joe decided to let him go out and I believe CC deserved at least another batter to try and take it the distance. And a couple of bloop hits and 10 extra pitches shouldn’t change his rationale. You just can’t use the heat as an excuse when he’s already thrown over 100 pitches in that heat IMO.

    Basically, if you’re worried about the big man, have Robertson ready to pitch the start of an inning instead of waiting until the tying run is at the plate. It doesn’t make sense to me. With all of Girardi’s strengths, he’s been criticized many times for over-managing. It’s been a common complaint. This is the same manager that was willing to take CC out during his no-hitter. Now, I don’t want CC to reach Brandon Morrow or Edwin Jackson territory either, but that was overkill. If this isn’t a strong example of over-managing, then I don’t know what is. That is all.

    OMFG BUT GIRARDI IS TEH BESTEST MANAGER!1!!111<—These type of responses are completely annoying BTW.

    • Jim S says:

      Why didn’t you just say this first?

      Plus, you did the OMG!11!! thing too.

      This post, whether I agree with it or not, makes sense.

      I don’t think it was over-managing, I think it was just managing. I will always and forever lean on the side of caution with our starters. I want CC fresh for October, even if that means making some weird moves in August. The difference is, had he left CC in, I wouldn’t have freaked out, I would have given Girardi the benefit of the doubt.

      My problem is that it seems like you wouldn’t have given him credit for leaving CC in, yet you’re willing to jump all over Joe for taking him out. If you’re so against his over-managing, then come around to compliment him when he does something you agree with. Even if you have to be sarcastic.

      • Not Tank the Frank says:

        First of all, I have a very hard time not being sarcastic. Did I do the OMG!11 thing for real or just to poke fun??

        Second of all, no one can ever fault you for leaning on the side of caution. It’s just that, in my opinion, this was a little overkill; high temperatures or not. We’re not talking about record-setting heat in the middle of the day or anything. Of course, I wouldn’t be caught dead in that heat so who am I to say.

        I would have given Joe all the credit in the world had he made what I perceived to be the right decision. If you’re around here enough, you’ll see that I post my opinions during or very quickly after they are made, whether they work out or not…whether it’s a bullpen move, a bunt, or whatever.

        I happen to be biased against Girardi somewhat. I don’t think he’s a great manager. I don’t like his “small-ball” approach to the game etc. But this is a discussion for another day I suppose.

    • Kit says:

      Since I was the one who responded to you before, I’ll be the one to clear it up. First of all, I wasn’t calling you out as a troll at all. And I didn’t say Girardi was the best manager ever. You overreacted to a comment I made in jest and on top of that, you were condescending towards me when I clearly wasn’t addressing you directly.

      That being said, I respect your opinion in regards to questioning Girardi’s managing. You’re free to do so. People may disagree, but as long as you do it intelligently without starting an irrational argument, no one will get on your case for it. While I disagree with you, you do have valid points and arguments. I’m not here to start arguments with anyone. In fact, I think most of the people here are not only intelligent but articulate and respectable sports fans, and that includes you when you’re not being condescending and disrespecting me for no reason.

      • Not Tank the Frank says:

        Hey, I’m not talking to you!!!


        No, no, no I won’t go there. I’m kidding. I’m sorry if I offended you. I think I mentioned this in response to you above but a post that is made in jest such as yours is open to be responded to in kind. It really wasn’t made to make you feel slighted. It was simply my way of saying; winning the game isn’t proof that Girardi made the right decision.

        I probably should have just posted it that way – but again – I felt your original post was sarcastic and so I posted in kind.

        Anyway, thanks for the response. I look forward to arguing with you in the future :-)

        • Kit says:

          Yay, I get my own meme!

          It’s fine, apology accepted. I may have also had a bit of an overreaction, but I don’t take too kindly to having my words twisted around and I felt that was what you did. I apologize for having that strong of a reaction though. I look forward to arguing with you as well.

  247. Jim S says:

    On a less argumentative note, YAY WIN! Yay best record in baseball, yay CC, yay Robertson, yay Granderson hitting a lefty, and yay bed.

    • Betty Lizard says:

      Goodnight CC, goodnight moon
      Goodnight Grandy and the red balloon

      Goodnight bowl, goodnight mush
      Goodnight to Girardi, whispering “Hush!”

  248. Pat D says:

    I was driving home during the bottom of the ninth. That was aggravating.

    I wouldn’t have taken out Sabathia, but…what do I know? Obviously Girardi and Eiland know him better than I do.

  249. larryf says:

    In all these conversations about Girardi and CC we should consider that Girardi was a catcher and he probably talks to CC (and whoever else) during a commercial and goes over his plan for the next inning in these late in the game situations. I would think the ultimate decisions are somewhat mutual. We haven’t had too many Lackey-tantrums out there!

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