Time to give Javy Vazquez a breather

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If there’s one thing that was obvious during last night’s loss to the Tigers, it’s that the Yankee offense is mired in a rather hideous slump right now. If there’s a second thing that was obvious, it’s that Javy Vazquez is basically pitching with nothing these days. His fastballs lack life, his breaking balls hang more often than not, and his changeup tends to float out of the zone. This has been going on for at least three starts now, with both the team and Vazquez himself acknowledging a dead arm period.

After last night’s 106 pitch, 34 foul ball, 12 out effort, we’re starting to reach the point where the Yankees have to seriously reconsider Javy’s spot in the rotation. I’m not saying they should do anything drastic like stick him in the bullpen, I just want to see them give Javy some rest, both physically and mentally. Given his dead arm and obviously short stuff, a 15-day disabled list stint with a bout of shoulder weakness or soreness or tendinitis or whatever you want to call it gives Javy a breather and wouldn’t require any roster manipulation to keep the team from being short-changed. And the good news is that if the Yanks stick Vazquez on the disabled list today (can’t do it retroactively to yesterday since he actually played on that day, MLB rules), he’ll only miss two starts. Here, check it out.

Javy’s next start is scheduled for this Saturday against the oh-so-lowly Mariners, who will unfortunately be throwing the great Felix Hernandez. Ivan Nova, who last started Friday for Triple-A Scranton and has pitched to a 2.07 ERA in his last five starts, could fill-in during that game with ease. The Mariners have the game’s worst offense with a .288 team wOBA (before last night’s loss) and one of its worst road records at 17-41 (the heroic Cliff Lee is responsible for five of those wins), so you’re not throwing Nova to the wolves in his first career start. It’s a (theoretically) friendly environment against a bad team coming off a solid stretch of starts in Triple-A, so he’s set up for success. Given Javy’s recent performances, he wouldn’t have to do much for it to be a net gain for the Yanks.

After that Saturday game, Javy’s next turn would come next Thursday, and guess what? The Yanks are off that day. Here’s the schedule if you don’t believe me. They could either skip Nova outright that day, or (preferably) start him on Friday and push the four other starters back a day. There’s nothing wrong with giving them a little extra rest. If they go that route, the next time they’d need a fifth starter is the following Wednesday, which is the day Javy is eligible to come off the DL. He could make that start no problem.

In addition, the Yanks would be able to call up a position player in the interim with Nick Swisher, Alex Rodriguez, and Lance Berkman all banged up. That guy (Kevin Russo makes sense because of his versatility) then goes back down for Nova before Saturday’s game. Nova then goes back down following his two starts in favor of whatever the team needs at the time; bullpen help, bench help, whatever. Either way, that 25-man roster spot turns into a bit of a revolving door while Vazquez is on the shelf, allowing the team to optimize the squad based on their needs at the time.

What’s the alternative to all this? They could run Javy out there on Saturday, hope for the best, then either skip him next Thursday if he continues to throw slow-pitch softball or start him Friday on his regular turn. It’s the always popular “do nothing” approach, which has a surprisingly good success rest.

The point of DL’ing Javy isn’t to give Nova two starts to show what he’s got, it’s to rest one of the team’s five primary starters and hopefully get him back to being the pitcher he was from mid-May to the All Star break. That guy would be a huge asset down the stretch in September, but the guy they have right now isn’t much of a help at all. And hey, there’s a chance the 15 days of rest won’t do anything and Vazquez will come back the same guy he is right now, but I think they have to at least try. At this point they’re just rolling the dice every five days, which is not something I advise doing in such a tight division race.

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  • Ed

    Sounds reasonable to me. And Nova doesn’t actually have to go back down at the end of this – 15 days from now we get the 40 man major league roster, so we get even more flexibility.

  • Daniel

    Mike, why are you not GM!?

  • Bret

    I know no one will mention it because Brian Cashman can do no wrong here but this trade could be entering Milt Pappas for Frank Robinson territory depending on Vizcaino. 11 million for this guy is a disaster in and of itself, forget about the long term potential Atlanta acquired.

    The idea sounds right to me though assuming the Yankees are willing to admit Vazquez is a huge bust (which is what they would be doing if they DL him). Hughes getting an extra day would help his innings limit and they need the roster spot. The consecutive days without a day off is really starting to show what an old team this is.

    • Doug

      or, DLing him could mean he has a tired arm and could use the rest

    • Chris

      Isn’t Vizcaino out for the season with an elbow injury?

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

        Otter: Germans?
        Boon: Forget it, he’s rolling.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      I know no one will mention it because Brian Cashman can do no wrong here but this trade could be entering Milt Pappas for Frank Robinson territory depending on Vizcaino. 11 million for this guy is a disaster in and of itself, forget about the long term potential Atlanta acquired.

      /offtopic’d
      /redundant’d
      /Bret’d

      The idea sounds right to me though assuming the Yankees are willing to admit Vazquez is a huge bust (which is what they would be doing if they DL him). Hughes getting an extra day would help his innings limit and they need the roster spot. The consecutive days without a day off is really starting to show what an old team this is.

      • Bret

        The topic is Vazquez, the point I was making relates to the acquisition of Vazquez. I don’t think it is off topic, particularly considering other comments here.

        And Vizcaino is hurt but he was dominant before getting hurt. I don’t think it is a Tommy John situation and he is still projected as a top of the rotation starter. Regardless, Javy for a bag of donuts would have been a terrible acquisition for 11 million.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          The topic isn’t the acquisition of Vazquez, it’s what to do with Vazquez over the next 15 days. Arodys Vizcaino has nothing to do with this topic.

          Feel free to keep trying to tangentially shoehorn your petty little trolling anti-Yankee jabs into every comment, though. I’m sure we won’t all get tired of them and eventually have to ban you for being annoying as shit.

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

      So Arodys is going to become one of the top 10 hitters of all time?

      • jsbrendog (returns)

        steve, steve, ima let you finish…..but Arodys Vizcaino is one of the top 10 hitters of ALL TIME!!!!

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          That joke sucked.

          /PoopyPantsHumorCritic’d

          • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

            You can’t blame jsbrendog. It was more than 10 words, clearly an imposter.

            • Thomas

              IETC

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      How is putting Vazquez on the DL admitting he’s a huge bust? It’s more like admitting he’s hurt.

      And really, tsjc put it best.
      Feel free to keep trying to tangentially shoehorn your petty little trolling anti-Yankee jabs into every comment, though. I’m sure we won’t all get tired of them and eventually have to ban you for being annoying as shit.

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

    I’m on board.

    Let’s bring up Colin Curtis for the next 4 games to replace Kearns as the 4th OF (since he’d be starting in Nick’s place), then Nova for the 7 days of the 21st through the 28th for his two spot starts, then for the rest of Javy’s DL stint, call up… wait for it…

    Chad Moeller.

    Yeah, I said it. Why? Because putting Javy on the 15 day DL as of today would mean he’d be on the DL on midnight, August 31st (his final day), thus giving us an extra slot for the playoff roster, a slot we can use to get Chad Moeller playoff eligibility as an insurance policy against Frankie Cervelli’s continued suckitude.

    Dirty Peña, Ross in Jersey, you’re welcome.

    (Of course, if we can swing a trade for Jose Molina instead of Chad Moeller, all the better. But I digest.)

  • Ross in Jersey

    Perfect excuse to call up Moeller and throw Cervelli’s ass on a bus until he can OPS his weight! Say Chad is Nova’s personal catcher or some other nonsense.

    Anyway, I really don’t know if skipping starts is going to help Javy. Can it? Sure. But let’s face it, this is a guy who has more innings on his arm in the last decade than any other pitcher. That’s a lot of mileage. People used the “he throws 200 innings every year” talking point as a strength when he was signed, but I think it’s likely more of a negative at this point.

    Here’s hoping a little rest does the trick and we can squeeze a bit more out of him down the stretch.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      Hah. See above, buddy. We’ve finally got an opening.

      (TWSS)

      • Ross in Jersey

        Attaboy. Glad to have you on board the Cervelli Sucks Express!

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          For the record, I’ve never said Cervelli was good. I just said he’s probably slightly better than the nadir we’re witnessing right now (both offensively and defensively).

          I stand by that statement.

          • Pete

            I would agree about his defense. I doubt he’ll suck this much forever on D. But idk about offense. He has always been pretty horrocious on offense.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

              While that’s true, his current stretch of putridity has also come during his worst BABIP ever. He’s a pure luck hitter, so he’s always going to have times when the hits fall in and times when they don’t.

              Right now, he’s going through a time when they just aren’t falling in at all. He’ll probably improve on that a little thanks to nothing more than dumb luck.

  • Klemy

    I’m definitely on board with the DL stint to see what happens. It definitely won’t hurt to try and Javy hasn’t been getting any better with the current plan. He’s painful to watch out there, right now.

    Agreed with the Chad Moeller idea as well. Cervelli gets me swearing at the TV more than anyone else at the moment. He’s a built in rally killer, every time through the order right now. His defense has been subpar as well. There is absolutely no reason he should be getting starts on the highest paid team in baseball at this point. We have options that might be better and we should try them.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      He’s a built in rally killer, every time through the order right now.

      Which makes it all the more hilarious/tragic* that he’s not the one who killed the big rally last night.

      (*At this point, take your pick. I don’t even care anymore, both answers are right.)

      • Chris

        Well, he did kill the first rally.

    • Ross in Jersey

      As self-proclaimed leader of the “We Want Moeller” movement, I think it’s prudent to remind people that he’s not a good offensive player. He won’t hit any better than Cervelli. The reason I, and others, want him called up is because Cervelli’s defense has been so mind-numbingly awful. Moeller is probably a 0 WAR player at this point, and yet that’s better than the negative WAR that Cervelli has been posting for the last 3 months.

      Sorry for the off-topic, but yeah, if you think Moeller isn’t going to be an equal rally-killer you’re kidding yourself.

  • Kathy Herniman

    Javy did not have his best stuff but he still gave the team a chance to win. It has been a long time since a yankee team could not score 3 runs to come back and win a ball game. Something is missing this year and not sure what it is. The offense is sputtering and the defense has been a little iffy. Maybe one of the bosses needs to make a visit to the clubhouse. It seems to work.

    • CNight_UP

      While he only gave up 2 runs, Im not sure throwing 106 pitches in 4 innings, is giving your team a shot to win.

      • Troll

        This. He got lucky the bullpen has been beast mode, he didn’t set us up nicely.

      • Kathy Herniman

        he only gave up two runs. most nights the yanks can score more than that. the pen is there for a reason and they did a great job keeping it there. the only hiccup being Joba

    • Ed

      What’s missing is this year the team didn’t have the decency to get a large portion of their losses out of the way in April and May like they did last year. Instead, they started the season off incredibly hot, forcing us to have to deal with the unpleasantness of their won/loss record coming back to realistic levels by losing a little more.

      I do realize that with last night’s loss they are no longer on a 100 win pace, but, I still hold out hope that the team will find a way to make it to the postseason.

      • Chris

        Actually, they didn’t really start out too hot. They’ve pretty much played the same all season, with no major ups or downs. They haven’t had a 10 game stretch this season worse than 4-6. That’s pretty impressive even with all their struggles recently.

        • Pete

          well there was a period early on where for about two weeks they seemed to win every game like 10-2 while getting three walks apiece from NJ and Swisher and three hits apiece from Cano and Gardner and 7 innings from their starter.

        • Ed

          They certainly did start hot. They kept a .667 winning percentage thru May 15th – that’s a 108 win pace. They’ve been 48-34 since, which is a 95 win pace. A 95 win pace is still really good, but that’s pretty far back from 108.

          • Chris

            If they had played their first 36 games at a 95 win pace, they would have gone 21-15. In actuality, they went 24-12. So three wins over six weeks constitutes a hot start?

  • Frank

    I have to disagree with you on this one, Mike. Vazquez is just a career average pitcher. The guy’s durable- I’ll give him that, but he’s just not a good fit for this team. I said it when they traded for him this past off-season. They won’t win with this guy. Can any of you honestly see the Yanks trusting him in any must win game moving forward? When it comes to the playoffs, I assure you he’s in the BP. To be honest with you, I prefer Mosely over Vazquez in the rotation when Pettitte returns. There’s a reason the Yanks were after Lee and Haren. As for offering this guy arbitration, a topic brought up over the weekend, it’s a no brainer. Just show Javy the door after this season, thank him for his efforts, and move on.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      (scans Mike’s article to see where Mike mentioned that Javy Vazquez was better than a career average pitcher)
      (rescans Mike’s article to see where Mike mentioned that the trade for Javy Vazquez this winter was a good one)

      Nope, also not very relevant to the discussion at hand.

      • Bret

        Dude, you need to relax with the editing of everyone’s comments. I can understand if someone starts commenting on the San Diego Padres but a post about Vazquez means everything relating to Vazquez is on the table. You have better things to do with your time than play Thought Police.

        He was only good because he played in an inferior league in an extreme pitcher’s park – at best he was going to be a league average pitcher in a better league in a hitter’s park and his age should have been considered also. This is why the Rays win the division, they have Hellboy, Yanks have Ivan Nova.

        • jsbrendog (returns)

          none of your ideas ever seem to have merit

          • Bret

            Coming from someone who can’t write a complete sentence that means little. Try posting something longer than 10 words and I will review it for you.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

              jsb’s 10 word sentences >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your repetitive trollish asshattery

              • Troll

                Asshattery is actually very profitable for us. It’s our primary export.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

                  Bauxite is #2.

        • Ross in Jersey

          Yeah, fuck the Yankees for not finishing with the worst record in baseball for a decade so they could have drafted Hellickson, Price, etc!

          • Bret

            Hellickson was a 3rd round pick I believe. Yanks could have had him.

            • Bret

              My apologies, 4th round pick.

              • Pete

                You’re telling me that the Rays FO passed on Hellickson three times??? They must REALLY suck

                • jsbrendog (returns)

                  golf clap

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          Oh good, the old “why don’t the Yankees have the prospects their top competitors have” shtick.

          • Bret

            The Rays have 1/4th the payroll, not admiring the things they have done to beat a 200 million dollar team 2 of the last 3 years for the division is asinine. Hellickson is one of those things.

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

              This season is far from over. Stop acting like an ass.

              • jsbrendog (returns)

                you’re surprised?

                • Bret

                  Still not up to ten words. Should have tried for the high school diploma.

                  The Rays are obviously the odds on favorites right now. They have a better rotation, they are younger and they have and easier schedule. Anything can happen but the Yankees have a lot of headwinds.

                  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

                    The Rays are obviously the odds on favorites right now.

                    (checks Vegas lines)

                    Wrong again.

                    • Bret

                      Vegas takes bets based on supply and demand. They know more people will bet on the Yankees so they make them the favorite to make more money in the end.

                    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

                      Does that also explain the Rangers, Braves, and Cardinals also being favored over the Rays?

                  • jsbrendog (returns)

                    dude, your personal attacks have no effect and only make you look like more of an asshat. and im not going to get into a pissing contest over your petty childish insults. it isnt a new thing. your comments are always confrontational and extremely reactionary and just abrasive

                    • Bret

                      I didn’t ask for your opinion on my comments to begin with although I am impressed you were able to form a paragraph finally.

                      So go away and we will both be happy.

                    • jsbrendog (returns)

                      you = no one likes

                      me = some people like

                    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

                      Bret, why are you telling a Yankee fan to go away from a Yankee site?

                  • Troll

                    Main Entry: con·cise
                    Pronunciation: \k?n-?s?s\
                    Function: adjective
                    : marked by brevity of expression or statement : free from all elaboration and superfluous detail

                    Vigorous writing is concise. He may have learned that in college though.

                    • jsbrendog (returns)

                      wait, you mean that degree on the wall? nah.

                    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

                      I don’t think they have colleges in Baltimore, though. It’s barely a step up from Cleveland.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

                This season is far from over. Stop acting like an ass.

                Technically, the season is over for the Orioles, so… yeah.

                • Bret

                  I’ve been the Orioles biggest critic over the years. That separates me from the Jonas Brothers like fawning over Cashman that everyone here shares.

                  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

                    I hope you do a better job criticizing the Orioles than you do criticizing the Yankees.

                    And for all your vitriol being offended at the Yankees 200M payroll, you’d give your left nut to have Angelos spend like the Steinbrenners do, and you know it.

                    • jsbrendog (returns)

                      tangent:

                      i would love for angelos to do that too just because a 4 horse race in the al east would be unbelievable. plus i honestly believe that if he did (and he can) they O’s could overtake the rays for sure and maybe even the red sox as the yanks main competition if a gm is in place with a solid plan and a good scouting front office.

                    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

                      That.

                      Remember when the Orioles had the highest payroll in baseball, and yet failed to win a title?

                      Man, what idiotic idiots they were! We all should have admired those plucky underdog Yankees for going toe-to-toe with the big spending Orioles and beating them for titles. What a scraptastic bunch of gritty gamers who play the right way were were back then gutting it out against the obscene financial largess of the Baltimore Oriole$.

                      ———-

                      Seriously, though, it would be nice for baseball to see Peter Angelos not be an idiot anymore.

                    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

                      Ha ha ha, the 1998 Orioles had a higher payroll than the 1998 Yankees. Ha ha ha.

                      /obligatory’d

            • Pete

              Who here is dissing the Rays? Apart from Matt Garza’s beard, I don’t think anybody here has anything but respect for and/or fear of the Rays. They are an extremely well-run organization. As are the Red Sox. None of that, however, means the Yankees are less well-run. A well-run organization that finishes at the bottom of the barrel for 10 straight years should become one of the best teams in baseball. A $200 mil payroll team should also be one of the best teams in baseball. And would you look at that – they both are!

              If you think that having a $200million payroll should equate to reeling off 120 win seasons, you don’t understand how baseball works. There’s a reason the sport doesn’t actually need a salary cap.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

                If you think that having a $200million payroll should equate to reeling off 120 win seasons, you don’t understand how baseball works.

                That. Having a 200M payroll annually means you should be in title contention annually. Which we are. It doesn’t mean you get to win every single championship, that’s ridiculous.

                The Rays had 1/4th the payroll the Yankees did for the past 15 years. They’ve only not sucked for the past 3 of those 15. Don’t forget that. The Rays are a good organization that drafts well and develops talent well, but let’s not act like they’re an unstoppable juggernaut either. They haven’t won a damn thing yet.

        • Andy In Sunny Daytona

          Bret, you should start rooting for the Rays. I’m sure you’ll feel much better.

          • jsbrendog (returns)

            so would we

      • Frank

        The article is about giving Vazquez a breather. I happen to think it won’t matter for the reason stated. If you think I was off topic, that’s fine. But please knock off the editing. It’s annoying as are you.

    • Troll

      I’m actually confused as to what you’re disagreeing with Mike about here. You obviously aren’t in love with Javy, so why would you disagree that he should be DL’ed to allow us to do some things?

      • Frank

        Because I don’t believe it will make a difference.

        • Pete

          but could it? that’s the question. One would have to think that not DLing him probably wouldn’t make a difference. The fact that DLing him could makes it at least worth considering, no?

  • Bill O.

    I think this is a clear opportunity to see what Nova has. Javy has nothing right now. Missing 15 days could not hurt him. And I’d be surprised if it hurt the Yankees to go to Nova in Javy’s absence.

    Depending on what happens in the offseason Nova could be a candidate for next year’s rotation or at least just a call away should an injury occur. We have a good opportunity now to see what he hss, so why not take it?

  • Rose

    I guess the 2010 Yankees are just incapable of taking advantage of anybody having a “Walk Year” huh? (Sans Mo, but he doesn’t count because all his years are basically the same – nasty.)

    Derek Jeter, Javier Vazquez, Nick Johnson, Lance Berkman, Chan Ho Park, etc.

    Granted, some of these players are only on one year deals…but all of them are coming off of great years as well.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      Wasn’t the walk year phenomenon largely debunked?

      • Chris

        True, but you would think that at least some of them would have good years to balance out the ones that aren’t.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          Andy Pettitte, Marcus Thames, Kerry Wood, Austin Kearns.

          I’m sure if you look across all of baseball, though, you’ll find that they are balanced pretty evenly between good walk years and bad ones.

          If you pick any single team, though, that sample size is probably too small. We only have a handful of guys in their walk years; it’s not uncommon to have all of them perform poorly in a given year when you’re only talking about a few.

      • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

        Yeah, and the flipside is that shouldn’t the comfort and security of $100+ million deals have let CC and Tex become complacent last year?

        False narratives.

  • Reggie C.

    I missed out on watching Javy’s 12 out, 100 pitch performance. But hey, we didnt get blown out somehow. Javy’s performance isnt getting killed by Msm radio.

  • Pete

    Absolutely on board. People act as though only young pitchers need innings limits, but I think it’d be huge for Javy to get a nice breather and come back a little rejuvenated. Remember, he was the 2nd best pitcher on the team for about 3 months (I do love how quickly people forgot about the fact that Javy and Andy held the rotation together during Hughes’s and AJ’s collective suckitudes and CC’s bout of mediocrity). If the yanks can get him back to anywhere near that level, they should try. Giving him rest could certainly be a means to that end.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      But it won’t matter, Pete, because the Rays have Jeremy Hellickson and they have beaten us 2 of the past 3 years (because I can predict the future and tell that they’ll beat us this year) with 1/4th of the payroll, and the Braves have Arodys Vizcaino and Frank Robinson hit 568 home runs and the Jonas Brothers rock.

      That’s all that matters.

      • Pete

        haha i saw that comparison. Arodys Vizcaino = Frank Robinson. Lolskies. Seriously, though, isn’t Arodys essentially an injured version of Jose Ramirez? (Ramirez being the Yanks’ 4th best pitching prospect).

        • Pete

          Also, the fact that the Rays took Hellickson in the 3rd round clearly means that they are the only well-run organization in baseball, because no good orgs have ever passed on players who went on to become good players in the draft.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

            With a 200M payroll, the Yankees should have selected Albert Pujols. Their failure to do so means Cashman is a moron.

            • Pete

              FACT: In 1988, the Yankees passed on Mike Piazza 61!!!!!!!!ONE!!ELEVENTYY!! times!

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

                I love how he praises the Rays for finding Hellickson in the 4th but doesn’t want to mention that they took Beckham over Posey, or Brazelton over Teixeira.

                Everybody has late round finds, and everybody whiffs on high picks. It’s the baseball draft, it’s the ultimate crapshoot.

                • Pete

                  Ah, Dewan Brazelton. I still remember the line drive A-Rod hit off of him into like the 10th row of the 3rd deck in left field on, IIRC July 21, 2004. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone hit a ball that hard, including the Pujols vs. Lidge monster

          • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

            Other organizations that could’ve taken Hellickson, if it was so easy and obvious:
            The Baltimore Orioles

      • Troll

        You forgot that they’ll be keeping all that young talent, at 1/4 of our payroll, forever!!!! Mwahahahahaha!

        • Pete

          Since the Rays have 1/4 the Yanks’ payroll, they should win 1/4th the games. So the Yankees should win 390+ games this year, a pace at which they are nowhere near.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

            Sincerely,
            Bret Hershiser

            • Pete

              LINEAR CORRELATIONS BETWEEN PAYROLL AND WIN TOTALS!!!!!

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

                Anything otherwise offends the baseball gods, who are very strict Ricardian economists, apparently.

          • Troll

            I reject your reality and substitute my own. Yanks will win 390 games this year, put it on the board!

            • Pete

              I’ll admit to a nonzero possibility that, in an attempt to eliminate the Yankees, Bud Selig continually extends the World Series until the Yankees finally lose four games.

      • Ross in Jersey

        AND MELKY

      • Thomas

        I agree with everything you just said, though I think the Jonas Brothers were at their best during the Alec Baldwin era. :-)

        • Pete

          All I know about the Jonas brothers is that one of them said Bob Dylan can’t sing

      • jsbrendog (returns)

        and you can’t get a point across in 10 words

  • http://twitter.com/j_yankees j_Yankees

    you know when you get a sick feeling in the bottom of your stomach…say when your wife calls you in to help change the babies diaper and you know it’s going to be a fucking mess.

    Thats kinda how i feel when Javy Vazquez has pitched this last month.

    /too harsh? or too soft?

    • ItsaTarp

      ehh a bit too harsh..he was good from may – july..so at firsti thought he would get over it and it was just one of those bad starts everyone has (he wasn’t terrible vs the rays)…but then the dead arm and crap came and it really got frustrating. the team needs to give this guy a rest…when we did it during the sox series he came back better than ever. so it would really help him down the stretch to be skipped

  • Wil Nieves #1 Fan

    No passion.