Sep
08

Posada out with concussion-like symptoms; tests negative

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Update (5:56pm): Thankfully the tests came back negative, and Posada is cleared for competitive play. He’s currently listed as day-to-day, and I would assume he’s making the trip to Texas.

5:44pm: Ready for this? Jesus Montero is not in the lineup for Triple-A Scranton tonight even though it’s a playoff game. It doesn’t mean they’re calling him up, but they could be taking the necessary precautions in case they get bad news regarding Posada.

4:38pm: It’s unclear if Posada will be able to fly with the team to Texas, which is not good. Like I said, concussions are nothing to mess around with, so the Yanks absolutely have to play it safe with one of their most important players in this situation.

4:17pm: Joe Girardi said in the post-game press conference that they’re waiting to find out how Posada checked out.

4:07pm: Via Bryan Hoch, Jorge Posada was unavailable today due to concussion-like symptoms following a foul tip in last night’s game. He visited a neurologist today, and presumably everything checked out okay. Or at least I hope it did. Concussions are no joke.

This explains why Frankie Cervelli was allowed to bat for himself with runners on the corners and two outs in the seventh inning with the Yanks down by one this afternoon. He predictably made an out on the first pitch of his at-bat, killing what seemed like the only rally of the game.

Categories : Asides, Injuries
  • Captain Jack

    …So obvious interests for Montero, Romine, Sanchez, and Murphy?

  • vin

    Oh boy. Just ask Morneau (and countless others) what they think of concussions.

  • Yank the Frank

    Well that explains why Joe didn’t pinch hit for Cevelli

  • FachoinaNYY

    Joe doesnt sound optimistic on his interview…

  • Tank Foster

    Look out. The current trend in MLB is extreme caution with concussions. I happen to think it’s a bit overkill – and probably a CYA, liability thing at least in part – but it wouldn’t surprise me at all if Jorge missed a substantial amount of time for this.

    I hope not….but if so, it’s a bad blow for the rest of the season, and would be really bad for playoffs….

    • http://janeheller.mlblogs.com/yank_c.jpg T-Dubs

      It’s not overkill at all. Concussions are just now starting to be understood by the medical community and mistreatment and misdiagnosis in the past has ruined a lot of lives.

      • http://twitter.com/joero23 The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

        Yup… Just to follow-up on your point:

        http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH.....index.html

      • Tank Foster

        I’m part of the medical community…and I have special training in Neuropathology. I didn’t say concussions were not serious, but I stand behind my statement that the way they are being treated tends toward overkill.

      • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK

        This is a totally stupid comment but I always find it funny that some professions are known as a “___ community” but you’ll never hear of the car wash community or electrician community (though I could be wrong on that and some just fall under the umbrella of business community).

        Ok, I’ll return to drinking now. Carry on.

    • Chris

      Have you been following the recent studies about concussions and the long term impact they have?

      From a baseball perspective, they impact vision and coordination which basically makes it useless to try to play through.

      • Tank Foster

        I’m an MD with board certification in Neuropathology. I’ve been following literature on concussions for years. What has changed is not so much the medical understanding of head injury as much as the degree to which competitive sports are beginning to take it more seriously. I’m well aware of what it all means medically.

        • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK

          That’s all well and good, doctor. BUT WHY DO I PEE BLOOD WHEN CERVELLI IS AT BAT???!!!

          • Sick Nwisher

            This is a totally stupid comment but I always find it funny that some professions are known as a “___ community”

            Spoken like a man with no community, carry on.

  • larryf

    Get well Jorge. Frankie and Chad-just hang on till Jesus brings us the Governor’s Cup in a week or so.

    • Matt

      I think Jesus Montero would rather bring home the World Series trophy than the govern’s cup.

  • art vandelay

    no no no …. not good. hopefully it’s just a precautionary thing.

    • http://janeheller.mlblogs.com/yank_c.jpg T-Dubs

      love this handle.

  • Klemy

    Horrible news. So much for the talking on the broadcast last night where they said, “Flash said that doesn’t hurt.” when Jorge was hit on the foultip.

  • Guest

    If Jorge is going to miss a considerable amount of time, doesn’t Jesus have to rise?

    Please correct me if I am wrong, but Jesus’ good offense + Jesus’ bad defense > Cervelli’s bad offense + Cervelli’s bad defense, no?

    • vin

      I think the possibility of Montero getting called up has increased from 0.5% to 2%. The possibility just won’t go away.

      I’d prefer them to just go out and rip off another long winning streak to take complete control over the division. Let Jorge rest until the final series of the year, then get him a couple AB’s. Cervelli and Moeller were the catching tandem for two weeks in May. Of course Cervelli wasn’t a complete black hole at the plate back then.

      • Chris

        The problem is there is no way to know when the symptoms go away. Sometimes it’s quick, but other times they linger for weeks or months. If Posada isn’t back in the lineup in a week or so, then I think Montero gets called up with the possibility of a playoff roster spot if Posada’s not healthy. I can’t imagine them going into the playoffs with Cervelli and Moeller as the options at catcher.

        • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

          This.

        • vin

          You’re definitely right. I assume we’ll know more after his tests… hopefully we can ballpark a return date. But those symptoms really can linger.

        • Shaun

          Your right look at Morneau its been almost 3 months and he is still having problems.

      • Magnus Stultus

        Is Renee Rivera an option? He might be an upgrade offensively than both Moeller and Cerv. I have no idea how good he is defensively though.

    • Not Tank the Frank

      Could be…maybe the Yankees need to find out. I don’t take concussions lightly and neither do the Yankees apparantly. They’re going to need another catcher unless the tests come back extremely positive.

  • kelly

    girardi didn’t sound optimisti AT ALL! very very worried!! especially when we have cervelli and moeller backing him up. there is no chance yankees gonna call on either montero or romine

    • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK

      I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

  • vin

    I wonder if Posada comes back with a Cervelli-sized helmet.

  • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

    I have been fully in the Montero stays in the minors camp, unless Posada suffers a major injury. If they are concerned that this will linger, they should bring up Montero now to get his feet wet. If he comes up and he fails, you roll with what you have, but you have to take the chance that he gets it done. You know Frankie and Moeller won’t get it done, Montero might.

    • Not Tank the Frank

      Even though I too have been against bring him up; I must agree with this.

      Winning is the most important thing. If he completely shits the bed, so be it. Like you said, it’s a short enough time where it shouldn’t make too much of an impact on him or on the team if he is ineffective.

    • Magnus Stultus

      I am hoping PoPo the best. I really don’t think a 20 year old( who is not the 40 man roster) catcher who is defensively challenged is the best option if Jorge is hurt long term. I would be inclined to stick with Moeller and Cerv combo , or ,look via trades . I wonder if I-Rod made it through the waiver.

      • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

        Posada and Cervelli are defensively challenged as well. And Cerv will get more playing time than Moeller, even though they both suck.

        I don’t know if Montero is the best option, but I know the upside is there. There is no lightning in a bottle possibility with Cerv and Moeller. With Montero there is.

        • Magnus Stultus

          There is no doubt the potential is there. It’s more of a probability statement as in how likely. What are my other options ? In this case, I think there are too many ‘ifs’ with Montero , I would rather go with the trade routes at this point.

          • Sully

            You can’t trade at this point. Can only pick up those placed on waivers, without an option to be pulled-back, and even if so, the player would not be eligible for the playoff roster, because they must be on the team by September 1st. Day late and a dollar short for your ideas. Bring up Montero, Cervi’s last at bat was horrendous, and the O’s didn’t even want Moeller as their back-up this year. It’s not even a panic move, it’s September, the Yanks only can gain from bringing up Montero.

            • http://cid-e3a022289d65b5c0.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Assorted/foul.jpg Andy in NYC

              You can add a player to the postseason roster to replace an injured player.
              I’m 99% sure a player does not have to be on irrevocable waivers to be traded.

        • http://itsaboutthemoney.net Brien Jackson

          I’ve been told that Montero’s defense is REALLY bad, but even then, if Posada can’t play, I’m not unconvinced that it still wouldn’t be an upgrade from having Cervelli be a black hole in the lineup.

          • http://www.twitter.com/TomZig Tom Zig

            Yes his defense is really bad, but is it worse than Cervelli’s?

          • Shaun

            They keep saying that but it has improved drastically as the season wore on. A significant number of the pb’s and errors happened in the earlier portions of the season. His timing for throws has dropped to 1.9 seconds and his accuracy has vastly increased. I think the problems with his bat early on, caused him to devote more time to the defense and it has been paying off. No Sado is a big offensive hole, and I think Montero can and deserves to fill that gap.

          • celerinosanchez

            Have you seen Posada behind the plate recently? Not so good, not so good.

      • Guest

        You would be inclined to stick with Moeller and Cerv…based on Cerv’s wonderful performance behind the place and at the bat over the last four months?

        • Magnus Stultus

          No, I was actually hoping Cashman would trade for John Buck in August.
          I think Cerv is horrible. But I also think trading for ML catcher is better than bringing Montero up at this point.

          • Sully

            You can’t trade at this point. Can only pick up those placed on waivers, without an option to be pulled-back, and even if so, the player would not be eligible for the playoff roster, because they must be on the team by September 1st. Day late and a dollar short for your ideas. Bring up Montero, Cervi’s last at bat was horrendous, and the O’s didn’t even want Moeller as their back-up this year. It’s not even a panic move, it’s September, the Yanks only can gain from bringing up Montero.

            • http://Twitter.com/marcos_aguirre Marcos

              Actually, IIRC (which I probably don’t!) you CANT pick up waiver claims after Aug. 31.

            • http://cid-e3a022289d65b5c0.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Assorted/foul.jpg Andy in NYC

              As I noted above, you can add a player to the postseason roster now to replace an injured player.

              And AFAIK a player just has to pass waivers, not irrevocable waivers, for a trade to happen.

      • Klemy

        You’re right, it is a lot to ask of a 20 year old, but the 40 man roster could be altered easily enough if I’m not missing something.

        There is absolutely no upside to Cerv or Moeller. Like Steve said, there is upside with Montero – even if it’s a gamble. We obviosuly don’t know much yet, but if this is any kind of long term, I think they’d be overlooking the obvious not to give him some games.

    • http://itsaboutthemoney.net Brien Jackson

      +28

    • Klemy

      Agreed on this. I never gave Jesus a chance at playing this season, but now it almost has to be a thought. We cannot rely on the bats of Cervelli and Moeller if Jorge is down for a long stretch.

      Please get better Jorge.

  • NYY-SWISH

    Screw anyone who defies me – I’m going Face-Off (Nicolas Cage style) with Joe Girardi. I’m going to kidnap him, sedate him, and steal his face and dreadful mouth of metal. Once the face transplant is completed I will then call on the Second Coming himself, The Jesus Montero, at which point he will carry the Yankees towards the best record in baseball and hit 20 home-runs in the playoffs. Jesus-Savior-Duh. Watch. It will happen.

    • vin

      You’d be better off doing all that with Cashman. He’s the one running the show.

      • NYY-SWISH

        Oh. I forgot the second act of my grand masterpiece. I’ve dug a eighteen-foot well in my basement where I plan on keeping Cashman captive. I’ll reward him with bucketfuls of lotion and doughnuts for his sporadically required signature and once all the leaves have fallen I’ll use my patented Men-In-Black memory eraser and promptly set him free with the quaint impression that young studs deserve a chance to start in the bigs every-so-often. Just remember, Cash, it puts the lotion on the skin…

        • vin

          It’s so crazy it just might work.

        • Shaun

          It puts Jesus in the bigs or else it gets the the hose again

          • NYY-SWISH

            Hahahaha

    • http://www.twitter.com/TomZig Tom Zig

      The Yankees already have the best record in baseball

      • Marc

        The Twins are creeping up on that best AL record. Plus they have one of the easiest schedules to end the season.

        • poster on another computer who happens to be a deuce bag

          And yet, amazingly, no part of Tom Zig’s coment is any less true.

          Huh.

  • cano is the bro

    shitttt please be better in time for the playoffs brosada

  • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

    I guess they don’t know if he actually had a concussion or not? I really hope he doesn’t..

  • voices

    montero time

  • larryf

    I think Nova has a strong opinion on Jesus since he pitched to him all year and has been with us for a few weeks now. We’ll see. We may roll with Cervelli and Moeller through the weekend and decide what to do next week.

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

    Oh Po. Please be okay. :( :( :(

  • Guest

    They should definitely be careful because Jorge’s longterm health is way more important than baseball. Hopefully, he is OK and they will be able to get him back for crunch time.

    But if he’s not OK, he sits. Head injuries are no joke.

    • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK

      His long-term health, the way I see it, only extends to the end of his contract. I’m not saying be really aggressive, but I think of “long-term” in a greater span of time. I don’t wish him ill, but I kind of don’t give a shit about Jorge and injuries after his contract is up (unless for some insane reason the Yankees bring him back again).

  • http://twitter.com/j_yankees j_Yankees

    You really have to play it as safe as you possibly can when talking about concussions with catchers.

    Mike Matheny comes to mind right off the bat.

  • a plethora of pinatas

    Well crap. We’ll be back to having 2 automatic outs in the line-up. Cervelli/Moeller and ………wait for it…………Jeter. Make that 3 automatic outs when Arod is resting.

  • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-Melvin-To-America/193013541601?ref=sgm Andy In Sunny Daytona

    Jesus isn’t in the line-up for tonights game……..DUN DUN DUNNNNNNN

    • Guest

      And so it begins…

      Welcome to the majors, Jesus!!

      Get better soon, Jorge!!

      • http://twitter.com/dpatrickg Dirty Pena

        He could be….hurt?

        • Guest

          True. He could be.

          But that would be quite a coincidence.

        • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

          Hopefully not a concussion

    • vin

      Where did you see the lineup?

      • http://twitter.com/dpatrickg Dirty Pena

        milb.com

  • ShuutoHeat (Passion>all)

    They have to be super super careful with Sado, head related injuries are nothing to make light of.

    I can imagine a lot of people are chanting “Release the Jesus!” right now, I’m neutral when it comes to that issue… but it is going to suck with Moeller and Cervelli.

  • http://janeheller.mlblogs.com/yank_c.jpg T-Dubs

    Hopefully The Jesus comes up, Po feels better in a few weeks, The Cervix disappears until Spring Training.

  • Guest

    How could leaving Montero out of the lineup for tonight be a precaution?

    If they want Montero available at the drop of a hat, couldn’t he play in tonights game and still fly to Texas tomorrow since they have an off-day tomorrow?

    Is it just that they don’t want Montero to get hurt in tonight’s game?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Exactly, don’t risk injury to Montero tonight.

      • Guest

        Ok, cool. Thanks for the explanation.

  • Cy Pettitte

    Holy shit, if he’s really coming up I can’t wait, hopefully he can come up and do some damage against the Rangers and Rays. Now friday REALLY can’t come fast enough.

  • Guest

    Random (on-topic) aside:

    Do you think Sterling will notice the reference the first time he says “Jesus Walks”?

    Kanye/d

  • Guest

    Also, what do you think he’s going to go with for Jesus’ homerun call? The mind boggles at the options…

    I’m surprised at how excited I am at this potential prospect.

    It takes quite a prospect to dampen the blow of potentially losing a border line HOF for a period of time. This still sucks, but it would suck worse without Jesus. (Like my chances at eternal salvation).

    • http://www.twitter.com/vscafuto Vinny Scafuto

      “Jesus Hits one to Heaven!”

  • ShuutoHeat (Passion>all)

    Posada cleared to play according to Lo-Hud. Tests came up negative and he is day to day.

    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/201.....d-to-play/

  • MBruce

    Sado has been cleared to play, and is listed day to day.

  • Betty Lizard

    Good news via Chad Jennings at Lohud from a Yankees email:

    “Tests performed this afternoon by a neurology specialist at NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital were negative. Physicians have cleared Posada for competitive play and he is listed as day-to-day.”

  • a plethora of pinatas

    Hip-hip Jorge!

  • vin

    I’m sure Dave Miley is a pro and all, but part of him has to be irked that he’s lost his best starter, all-star closer, best outfielder, starting centerfielder, backup catcher, and (potentially) his best hitter & starting catcher.

    • http://itsaboutthemoney.net Brien Jackson

      Pretty sure his bosses aren’t evaluating him based on the number of AAA titles he wins.

      • vin

        Of course they’re not, but I’m sure he has a highly competitive nature that just doesn’t like losing. Doesn’t mean that he doesn’t know his role in the organization, which is to prepare guys like Montero for the bigs whenever they need him.

        • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

          When wouldn’t that happen though? Any AAA team that makes the playoffs would, by reasonable assumption, have a good amount of talent on it. Said talent is going to get called up to the major league club in September. I would think this sort of thing just goes with the territory.

          • vin

            I would think a team that’s going nowhere would let their youngsters play and try to win something. Then call them up the following week when the playoffs are over.

            • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

              Teams that aren’t going anywhere are more likely to bring up extra players to start evaluating for next year though, aren’t they? And if you’re a player, would you rather be in the AAA playoffs or on a major league team?

  • Guest

    And…exhale.

    Hip, hip Jorge indeed.

    See you in 2011, Jesus!

    • Betty Lizard

      Jesus abides.

  • Yanks99

    Darn. I was hopin for Jesus.

    • vin

      You were hoping for some sort of brain damage?

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      Really? You want Posada to be seriously hurt just so you can see Jesus Montero attempt to adjust to big league pitching and not get a ton of playing time? You’re a great fan.

    • Total Dominication

      Seriously? Wow.

      • Yanks99

        Yes, I was hoping it’d be so bad he could never play again.

  • vin

    Now if we can only find a way to get Cito onto the postseason roster…

    /obviously kidding

    • http://twitter.com/dpatrickg Dirty Pena

      Works for ME. Cito isn’t OLD. Jeter is a WSAHED UP hasben! Cash btr DO something!

      /voices’d

      • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

        You forgot to wish for Jeter, A-Rod, Posada, or Mo to have a career-ending injury. Because they’re old and therefore worthless.

        • CBean

          Jesus, I know you’re just joking and yet my stomach just twisted at the thought.

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

    Not sure if this is totally on topic but ugh, according to Piliere on Twitter Montero has some sort of infection and that’s why he’s not playing. Has nothing to do with getting called up.

    Get better soon Jesus. And Posada.

    • vin

      Buzzkill

    • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

      Hopefully that ‘infection’ is nothing more than a stomach virus or something…

      • a plethora of pinatas

        Maybe he’s got the diarrhea…….that usually goes away quick. Give him some Immodium and IV fluids STAT!

        • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

          Quick, get Chan Ho on the line to diagnose!

          • a plethora of pinatas

            CHoP and his diarrhea…..LOL!!!!!

  • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

    Doesn’t sound like Montero would have gotten the call anyway. Apparently he’s out of the lineup for an unrelated reason. Glad to hear Posada is fine though. I bet Joe doesn’t play him the next couple of games anyway though, can’t imagine catching in the Texas heat would be the best thing to do if he was feeling dizzy or light-headed.

  • http://www.none.com Mac

    preesh

    glad to hear that though, as much as I want to see the kid up here, bringing him up without waiting a few days to see how Posada feels would be a mistake

  • thurdonpaul

    Thats really great that theres nothing major wrong with Jorge.
    Even if he could never play again, he has his whole life ahead of him and his family certainly loves and needs him.

    Get well soon Jorge !!